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Chinese Scientists Claim Record-Smashing Quantum Computing Breakthrough (scmp.com) 44

From the South China Morning Post: Scientists in China say their latest quantum computer has solved an ultra-complicated mathematical problem within a millionth of a second — more than 20 billion years quicker than the world's fastest supercomputer could achieve the same task. The JiuZhang 3 prototype also smashed the record set by its predecessor in the series, with a one million-fold increase in calculation speed, according to a paper published on Tuesday by the peer-reviewed journal Physical Review Letters...

The series uses photons — tiny particles that travel at the speed of light — as the physical medium for calculations, with each one carrying a qubit, the basic unit of quantum information... The fastest classical supercomputer Frontier — developed in the US and named the world's most powerful in mid-2022 — would take over 20 billion years to complete the same task, the researchers said.

The article claims they've increased the number of photons from 76 to 113 in the first two versions, improving to 255 in the latest iteration.

Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader hackingbear for sharing the news.
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Chinese Scientists Claim Record-Smashing Quantum Computing Breakthrough

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  • by gardyloo ( 512791 ) on Saturday October 14, 2023 @12:40PM (#63924977)

    "The series uses photons — tiny particles that travel at the speed of light [...]"

    The hell you say.

  • by NoWayNoShapeNoForm ( 7060585 ) on Saturday October 14, 2023 @12:47PM (#63924983)

    But can these results be reproduced elsewhere?

    Isn't that a critical step in scientific proof that a process does wht it claims to do?

  • What problem? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by bradley13 ( 1118935 ) on Saturday October 14, 2023 @01:16PM (#63925025) Homepage
    TFA is utterly uninformative. Bet: this is another case of a quantum computer solving a quantum simulation by being...quantum.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    If this turns out to be exaggeration, it wouldn't be the first time. There's a culture of padding results over there. Always wait for independent verification of any science out of China.

    • Oh please, it's not different in the US. Some people think China isn't capable of doing anything, while in reality they gave a very good scientific community and are frontrunners in many sectors, like medical. It's precisely why the US tries to impose sanction on technology, but in reality that will only improve China's selfreliance and will get them ahead in a couple of years.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by GFS666 ( 6452674 )

        Oh please, it's not different in the US. Some people think China isn't capable of doing anything, while in reality they gave a very good scientific community and are frontrunners in many sectors, like medical. It's precisely why the US tries to impose sanction on technology, but in reality that will only improve China's selfreliance and will get them ahead in a couple of years.

        No disrespect intended, but the main problem now with Chinese research is that any good research that they do gets buried in the mass of horribly bad/fabricated "research" published and the impression left by the long history of China doing fabricated research. There also does not seem to be any mechanism by which Chinese Researchers who fabricate research are punished, unlike the US where several highly prominent scientists were removed from their positions after the bad research came to light.

        So Chines

  • by dicobalt ( 1536225 ) on Saturday October 14, 2023 @01:46PM (#63925077)
    Something definitely won't happen causing the work to be lost. Then the people behind it won't need to seek funding to recreate the event. It's certainly not like the Chinese government is desperate to make a name for itself because of trade policy. The US will have to open trade again once they find out China has these amazing quantum computers. This is about as clever as the CIA in the 1950s.
  • Lost Trust (Score:5, Interesting)

    by kopecn ( 1962014 ) on Saturday October 14, 2023 @03:42PM (#63925243)
    I have read some of these âoesmashing papersâ out of china for stuff in my field, at first they sound all fuzzy and great and then you get somewhere a third through it and see, opp, gotcha, not really, and then wonder why you wasted an hour reading it. Other times its a rewrite of some other paper or from something you learned in undergrad. After the 50th of these, I generally dont trust anything out of there any more. I got all giggly once over the use and applications for dual quaternions for forward and inverse kinematics to solve robot postures supporting for kinematic error. Specifically that last part. Read through the whole paper, rehashing DQ from other western articles and get to where the kinematic error section, and it was hand waving , no math or algs, no results, and talking about the grand future it has. saying it was possible avenue to explore. No shit, thats what we are all doing painstakingly for every different kind of joint configuration. And why should we switch from HTs and lie to DQs now? So until some confidence and trust comes back into play, its all vapor fluff to me.
    • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Saturday October 14, 2023 @04:33PM (#63925333)

      The sad thing is this type of "research" is now popping up all over the world. Probably an unintended side-effect from open-access publishing. Don't get me wrong, classical journal publishers are evil and have a lot to answer for. But they at least did filter out low-quality stuff with some reliability.

  • .. find it is "simulating" exactly the same quantum effects that happen naturally in this "computer". In other words: useless, meaningless.

  • https://quantumzeitgeist.com/chinas-quantum-computer-breaks-speed-record-jiuzhang-3-solves-complex-problem-in-microseconds/ [quantumzeitgeist.com] has comments from an expert

    The actual paper is in Physical Review Letters, which is pretty high in ranking for journals, but I can't find the article online yet.
    • by fxj ( 267709 )

      The problem was based on Gaussian boson sampling that simulates the behavior of light particles passing through a maze of crystals and mirrors.

    • by fxj ( 267709 )

      see also the blog entry of scott aaronson (already old, but it is about the same experiment):

      https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=... [scottaaronson.blog]

      A group led by Jianwei Pan and Chao-Yang Lu, based mainly at USTC in Hefei, China, announced today that it achieved BosonSampling with 40-70 detected photons—up to and beyond the limit where a classical supercomputer could feasibly verify the results. (Technically, they achieved a variant called Gaussian BosonSampling: a generalization of what I called Scattershot BosonSampling

  • by RitchCraft ( 6454710 ) on Saturday October 14, 2023 @06:43PM (#63925537)

    The Chinese are great at claiming lots of things. Proof on the other hand, hard to come by.

  • Doi or it doesnâ(TM)t count!
  • When these schemes can actually be used to compute other things wake me up. Until then I'm sure you can also create devices that measure or manipulate single heavy atoms in ways that would take trillions of years to calculate on a classical computer if the computer was the size of the earth. That doesn't really mean all that much in terms of general usefulness.

  • Scientists in China say their latest quantum computer has solved an ultra-complicated mathematical problem within a millionth of a second — more than 20 billion years quicker than the world's fastest supercomputer could achieve the same task.

    So how do we know it got the correct answer? Did they re-run the calculation and take the best two out of three and say that must be it?

    • The only possible way to claim it got the correct answer is if the problem is to simulate itself, at which point it becomes circular.

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