Amazon Tells Warehouse Workers To Close Their Eyes and Think Happy Thoughts (404media.co) 122
Amazon is telling workers to close their eyes and dream of being somewhere else while they're standing in a warehouse. From a report: A worker in one of Amazon's fulfillment centers, who we've granted anonymity, sent 404 Media a photo they took of a screen imploring them to try "savoring" the idea of something that makes them happy -- as in, not being at work, surrounded by robots and packages. "Savoring," the screen says, in a black font over a green block of color. "Close your eyes and think about something that makes you happy." Under that text -- which I can't emphasize enough: it looks like something a 6th grader would make in Powerpoint -- there's a bunch of white space, and a stock illustration of a faceless person in an Amazon vest. He's being urged on by an anthropomorphic stack of Amazon packages with wheels and arms. There's also a countdown timer that says "repeat until timer ends." In the image we saw, it said 10 seconds.
Huh? Isn't that a good thing? (Score:5, Interesting)
I have to shrug my shoulders: Why is this a problem?
I work at a very much non-Amazon-style company. They more or less say the same thing here, but call it meditation. It's encouraged. They even provide classes that emphasize mental imagery of pleasant places as a key aspect to it. Seems to do really good things for health and well-being both short and long-term. Why shouldn't it work at Amazon as well?
Re:Huh? Isn't that a good thing? (Score:5, Funny)
I have to shrug my shoulders: Why is this a problem?
I work at a very much non-Amazon-style company. They more or less say the same thing here, but call it meditation. It's encouraged. They even provide classes that emphasize mental imagery of pleasant places as a key aspect to it. Seems to do really good things for health and well-being both short and long-term. Why shouldn't it work at Amazon as well?
The problem can be summed up thusly, "CLOSE YOUR EYES AND WATCH THE TIMER!" It has HR monkey written all over it. Reality need not apply.
Re:Huh? Isn't that a good thing? (Score:5, Insightful)
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"CLOSE YOUR EYES AND WATCH THE TIMER!"
It doesn't say that, though. It says wait for the timer to end. Any meditation timer I've seen either vibrates or makes a sound when it ends. While I don't have any evidence saying they do that here, do you have any evidence that they don't?
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do you have any evidence that they don't?
Amazon bad. That's all a lot people need, it seems.
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do you have any evidence that they don't?
Amazon bad. That's all a lot people need, it seems.
If you've ever talked with somebody that's worked in their warehouses, you'd probably feel that way too. I know we've got a certain contingent of folks that worship the larger companies as benign, benevolent entities of trust and purity, but that hasn't been the experience of the vast majority of us outside the tech-bro circle-jerk.
Re:Huh? Isn't that a good thing? (Score:5, Interesting)
The size and speed that Amazon works at requires every level of employee to constantly push. Workers have to get their scan rates up so boxes keep moving. Supervisors need to continuously load/unload trucks. Management has to push the rate boxes get out the building. And so on. A never ending push for numbers and numbers.
The purpose is to justify your job and justify your next job. There is no good enough. Even if you are the top building in your area, you must justify why there isn't infinite improvement from the last quarter, from last year.
So, now you get HR, Management, Admin, Training, IT etc departments trying to justify why they aren't on a path to infinite growth and productivity.
This means PROJECTS.
Projects are the justification. Why didn't we see improvement? We were rolling out a new trial run of some sorting technology. We were rolling out a new floor layout to improve throughput. And yes, We were rolling out a meditation program to encourage our workers to maximize their productivity.
It's not important that the Project succeeds. In fact that is beside the point. The Project is a scapegoat. Waste as much money as you want, and waste as much time as you want. As long as you have a new bullet point on your resume and can spit out some BS numbers, this then not only justifies your current job, but lines you up for the magical next one, so you can jump ship on all your BS half done projects and go to some higher level of the same routine.
This is not just Amazon. This is every corporate environment I've seen.
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I wonder what would happen if Amazon put a "slower delivery, reduce the stress on Amazon staff" button on the order page.
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I wonder what would happen if Amazon put a "slower delivery, reduce the stress on Amazon staff" button on the order page.
My wife and I have long discussed a "don't care, take your time" option for Amazon. I think the problem is that Amazon is displaying all the symptoms of MBA-itis, more of everything all the time, faster, better, more profit, always. You can't make impressive up-trending charts with "take your time" options. So it'd never fly for the company.
We're pissed that they don't, at the very least, offer a "no weekend deliveries" option for orders. I really don't need those pen refills to be delivered on Sunday, when
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"CLOSE YOUR EYES AND WATCH THE TIMER!"
It doesn't say that, though. It says wait for the timer to end. Any meditation timer I've seen either vibrates or makes a sound when it ends. While I don't have any evidence saying they do that here, do you have any evidence that they don't?
No. But having dealt with large company HR nonsense for seemingly centuries, it would be par for the course.
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Business Plan
1. Create unhappy working environment.
2. Confirm your intent by making workers pretend they aren't unhappy.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
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I have to shrug my shoulders: Why is this a problem?
I work at a very much non-Amazon-style company. They more or less say the same thing here, but call it meditation. It's encouraged. They even provide classes that emphasize mental imagery of pleasant places as a key aspect to it. Seems to do really good things for health and well-being both short and long-term. Why shouldn't it work at Amazon as well?
I'm willing to bet that at your workplace it's a bit of a perq. I also suspect that you and your co-workers aren't worked until they almost drop; aren't subject to a many-times-higher rate of workplace injuries than those in other similar workplaces; and aren't under constant threat of losing their jobs for some incredibly minor deviation from what's expected.
In your workplace, meditation is something to make people more productive by enhancing happiness. At Amazon, it's the cheapest-possible means to shave
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In your workplace, meditation is something to make people more productive by enhancing happiness. At Amazon, it's the cheapest-possible means to shave a thin slice off their misery. Because actually caring about their workers enough to treat them as well as other folks in other similar jobs costs too much.
I'm sorry, meditation somehow when used at Amazon is evil, but at other companies is good? That doesn't make sense given that meditation moves the needle in the positive direction no matter the circumstance.
Let's make a thought experiment, shall we? You have a company that performs a service. The service is viewed by society as important. Workers who perform this service face substantial stress and a high rate of burnout, but --- and this is the part where one's imagination comes in --- are compensated
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I'm sorry, meditation somehow when used at Amazon is evil, but at other companies is good?
I'm sorry, but where, in an Amazon worker's day, is there time to meditate? I suggest that you have a look at this: https://www.businessinsider.co... [businessinsider.com] .
Yes, Amazon reports that it has "abolished penalties for taking time off and that it doesn't time employees' bathroom breaks". But given that the workplace environment was such that one employee "described an 'awful smell' coming from warehouse trash cans, saying coworkers would urinate in them for fear of missing their targets because they took too much time
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"Seems to do really good things for health and well-being both short and long-term."
ROFL. I can only assume you work in HR. There is no aspect of HR or anything relating to psychology or emotional well being in a corporate environment that serves any useful purpose but annoying staff and liability protection. You don't need to tell employees about measures meant to make them happy and they don't need to do anything to make them work but all such measures are counterproductive to the bottom line.
But hey, if
Re:Huh? Isn't that a good thing? (Score:5, Funny)
Now now, a little daydreaming at work probably does improve your mental health.
Giving classes, calling it meditation and "encouraging" it, along with a bunch of other modern business practices, probably does build devotion to the company. There are lots of real-world examples, like this one [wikipedia.org] and this one. [wikipedia.org] This one [huffingtonpost.co.uk] even focuses specifically on meditation.
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Congratulations sir. I haven't had to clean my beverage off the monitor in quite some time.
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Thanks! I should have included this one as well:
https://www.wired.com/2014/09/... [wired.com]
It's an excerpt from Peter Thiel's book. If your employer starts going on about company culture, teaching meditation, or handing out Kool Aid, just read the title. Or this quote:
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I work at a very much non-Amazon-style company. They more or less say the same thing here, but call it meditation. It's encouraged. They even provide classes that emphasize mental imagery of pleasant places as a key aspect to it. Seems to do really good things for health and well-being both short and long-term. Why shouldn't it work at Amazon as well?
I went from working at a shitty company to working at an amazing company and find myself asking the same question, but rhetorically. It's hard because you can describe what both are doing by using the same words in the same order, but it's as if the tone or the reasons behind it are all wrong at the shitty company. Think how wildly different the statement "you look good today" could be meant and/or interpreted depending on tone of voice, relationship between the speaker and listener, and general context. Sa
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If the only thing you can do to keep your workers from lighting midlevel management on fire is to tell them to imagine not being at work, they're not the problem. You are.
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I have to shrug my shoulders: Why is this a problem?
Indeed. It adds another item to my growing list of why I'm happy I cancelled Amazon Prime and no longer order anything from them!
Thank you, Amazon!
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The best way of defanging Amazon is to stop buying their products and services. Especially from their warehouses.
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I'd be worried about getting run over by a warehouse robot if I stopped and closed my eyes to take a 30 second meditation break in an Amazon warehouse.
Seriously, have you seen video of those things? Some of the freaking shelves drive to YOU to cut down on process time.
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I have to shrug my shoulders: Why is this a problem?
It very much parallels the old "Lie back, and think of England" instructions given to young brides when married off to older men against their will -it translates to "shut up and get fucked, it's for the greater good."
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Do you have to do that standing at your desk/workstation?
The old phrase "you can't polish a turd" is literally false but figuratively true: Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make your life better. At some point, it becomes impossible to ignore the ugliness of reality, this is why torture works (plus the desperate mis-belief that co-operation equals control). Given the stories about how Amazon treats its workers badly, it's dishonest to assume they now see them as imperfect individuals: Amazon isn't do
You'd think they'd learn... (Score:2)
After all the blowback from the Amazen booths [youtube.com] I'm surprised that the company is playing psychologist again. Or should that be playing 'propagandist, or maybe 'gaslighter'?
I guess they just don't care what people think. They sure as hell don't care about their warehouse employees, beyond whatever cheap and hollow 'be happy' shit they can shovel down their throats in a vain attempt to squeeze that last little bit of self-sacrificing productivity out of the poor bastards.
Omega Mart Beat Them To It. (Score:4, Funny)
Take Microbreaks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Lots of people do jobs they hate (Score:3, Insightful)
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Nah, this is more about the company knowing it sucks, and encouraging people to stay in what is an unhealthy situation longer by encouraging specific coping mechanisms - coping mechanisms they wouldn't need if the job wasn't horrible, and coping mechanisms which do nothing to really attenuate the pain, just prologue it.
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I would say you're mostly right, but when *enough* incidents of violent outbursts and medical issues happen, they're responsible, and they won't like who is *holding* them responsible. (local/state gov. until federal noses in for their cut when local/state get their palms greased)
They should do it (Score:2)
Right in the middle of the sorting facility they should stop, close their eyes and savour a happy thought. Then when their next performance meeting comes up telling them they are under performing because they were 27.263 seconds behind the optimum delivery schedule they should sue their company for sending mixed messages.
On a serious note mental health and happiness is a thing that needs to be addressed. My company does this too, but the difference between them and Amazon is that I am actually expected to t
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Right in the middle of the sorting facility they should stop, close their eyes and savour a happy thought. Then when their next performance meeting comes up telling them they are under performing because they were 27.263 seconds behind the optimum delivery schedule they should sue their company for sending mixed messages.
On a serious note mental health and happiness is a thing that needs to be addressed. My company does this too, but the difference between them and Amazon is that I am actually expected to take time out to clear my head (no not just morning break, afternoon break, and lunch, but in addition to those breaks), and not expected to piss into a bottle to avoid spending 1minute to go take a bathroom in order to meet my KPIs.
We need to address mental health on the whole in our country, and probably a lot of other countries around the world. We're less than a generation removed from mental healthcare being summed up as, "Man up, pussy." There's overcorrections in certain segments to the point of utter absurdity, "pronouns are violence" as an example. And then there's still huge swaths of people living by the "man up, pussy" mantra. I gotta think there's probably a happy medium in there somewhere where you try to be kind to other
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What happened to Slashdot's login button (Score:4)
All I see now is some silly Google crap on the right of the link bar. Where'd it go?
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Same here. Someone took a savored moment at Slashdot and hit the wrong button.
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All I see now is some silly Google crap on the right of the link bar. Where'd it go?
I see that too - an advert for Google Cloud.
Ironically, it's right above the (checked) checkbox that says "Ads Disabled - Thanks again for helping make Slashdot great!"
Time to re-write (Score:2)
"Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens" for the modern era.
"When the robot-dog bites...."
Of course, in an Amazon warehouse, you've got lots to choose from when it comes to "your favorite things."
Aperture Science (Score:5, Funny)
This reminds me so much of the starting room in Portal 2. Contemplate this art, listen to some smooth jazz, back to hibernation.
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Life imitates art.
Toyota (Score:2)
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That sounds like a fantastic way to encourage workplace violence.
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Might work at Toyota, but I think it would have vastly different results at Smith&Wesson.
There's some history behind this (Score:3)
Remember Apple's Ridley Scott directed 1984 Super Bowl television ad that declared "And you'll see why 1984 won't be like 1984"?
Well, see, Bezos saw that too - and his response was "hold my beer...".
In future therapy sessions ... (Score:2)
Amazon Tells Warehouse Workers To Close Their Eyes and Think Happy Thoughts
[holding a doll and stuffed warehouse]
Therapist: Can you show me where the Amazon Warehouse touched you.
Zen and the Ticking, Whirring Mayhem Factory (Score:2)
"Close your eyes and--"
"Close my eyes? On the warehouse floor? With all the rampaging robots on it?"
"Oh, right. Well, okay, when you're on a bathroom break--
"What bathroom breaks?
This idea could be used... (Score:2)
This idea could be used by Kim Jong Un in North Korea although strike that, he doesn't want the citizens to think happy thoughts of: revolution, freedom...
The idea was already used by Colonel Saito in the WW2 story "Bridge of the River Kwai"..."be happy in your work..."
JoshK.
Maybe instead of "workers"... (Score:2)
Close my eyes and think of Amazon Warehouse (Score:2)
How it will go (Score:2)
Amazon worker: Yes!
Amazon manager: What is it?
Amazon worker: Violently murdering you.
Amazon manager:
We need robots (Score:2)
Right now, preferably yesterday.
You don't want people to end up in misery, but you want your cheap stuff fast and cheap - to your door - preferably yesterday.
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The problem is "How will the people they replace earn a living?".
My preferred answer is UI. Not UBI, but a guaranteed (minimal) income for everyone, or at least all citizens.
That's easy (Score:2)
Just imagine Bezos being skinned alive and imagine his screams of agony as the life slowly leaves his body.
I'm pretty sure that is the happiest thing anyone working in an Amazon warehouse can have.
Fuck, just do it, it should up their spirits for weeks at the very least!
Think Happy Thoughts (Score:2)
Amazon Tells Warehouse Workers To Close Their Eyes and Think Happy Thoughts
This sounds disturbingly like something that would have been said in Terry Gilliam's dystopian movie "Brazil"....
Morale Improvements (Score:2)
But... (Score:2)
What if you are already living your dream, being exactly where you want to be - do you still have to close your eyes?
TBF I've been doing this since kindergarten (Score:2)
TBF I've been doing this, or a variation of this, since kindergarten.
Yes, fellow slashdotters, since 1974 I've been pretending to go along with the flow, pretending to be alright, pretending pretending pretending.
The truth is I hate crowds. 30 kids in a classroom is a crowd.
The truth is I hate office life. Ringing phones, the babble of half a dozen conversations, etc. The least productive environment I can think of.
The truth is I hate factory life -- and yes, i've worked assembly line, twice.
So to a lot
Re:Happy slaves are the best! (Score:5, Insightful)
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It may also simply be _this_ crude.
Re:Happy slaves are the best! (Score:5, Insightful)
I doubt it. Somebody in HR probably went to a conference where somebody else in HR was talking about their great idea to make posters about happy thoughts.
I had a manager friend once who went to a talk from some business psychologist and spent the next year diagnosing all her underlings with personality disorders and coming up with treatment plans for them.
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The HR conferences are usually pretty nice, if you're an HR type. The internment camp is what happens when the HR types get back *from* the conference with all the new ideas.
Interesting you mention the military. There's a reason they yell at you a lot and don't let you sleep in boot camp.
https://psycnet.apa.org/record... [apa.org]
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This is pretty much the *exact* scenario I was closing my eyes and imagining.
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Re: Happy slaves are the best! (Score:2)
Re:Happy slaves are the best! (Score:5, Informative)
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Re: Happy slaves are the best! (Score:2)
*whistling time counts as break time
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To imply that people who every day have the freedom to make a choice to go to work or not and even every minute of the work day have the freedom to make the choice to simply walk off the job (and get paid up through the last minute before they walked off) is dismissive of those who historically suffered from slavery and those, in some countries, who still do. It is, in fact, extremely insulting to such individuals.
The meaning of slavery is the practice or institution of holding people as chattel involuntari
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Yep, keep telling yourself that. The "Big Lie" technique can also be used to corrupt one's own thoughts.
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The US does have a safety net - no, it's not great and it's unlikely to result in a lifestyle that most people in the US would like to live (although, it beats the lifestyle from a "western" standpoint of many hundreds of millions of people worldwide).
Unemployment is low right now and jobs are plentiful - even low skill jobs in many areas. The alternative to working at Amazon is not (and should not be) sucking off the safety net - it's going down the street or moving to the next state if needed and getting
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Why?
Most people work because they like to eat without hunting, live under a roof, etc. Most do not work for "fun" and even some of those of us who sometimes did would have preferred to eliminate the "non-fun" parts (such as interacting with incompetent idiots who hadn't yet been fired) from our jobs.
However, they can elect to work where ever they want -- assuming that their skills, education, training, attitude, work ethic, physical abilities cause that employer to have a strong interest in hiring them. Bot
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"Freedom" is just that. It's not a "Guarantee of Utopia".
Given the opportunity without negative consequences probably three-quarters of the people would do NO productive work but instead pursue hobbies and interests that don't provide even basic services (drain cleaning) and products (such as food) to others. However such a society would mostly starve (the one-quarter who choose to work are very unlikely to hand the fruits of their labor over to the other three-quarters w/o just compensation).
Every person h
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uh oh, somebody failed at life. my condolences.
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I think he just needs a cookie and a nap.
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So a cookie and a nap is a bullshit suggestion to make yourself feel better about not helping with anything.
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i'm happy. you're miserable.
i win.
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Go fuck yourself you stupid fucking idiot.
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Oh they get time for bathroom breaks. Unfortunately, it's a quarter mile away so they have just enough time to get there and back before they get dinged for extra break time. No time to actually *do* anything.
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Not good enough.
He lives.
Now, as a quadruple amputee, blinded and deaf, with his yaw and tongue removed and kept artificially alive... yeah, then we can talk.
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Hey, I've seen that movie, Johnny Got His Gun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Super-depressing (the short version is Metallica's One) but a fantastic anti-war movie.