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US Kicks Off AI Safety Talks With China (axios.com) 20

The United States is heading to Geneva this week to start a series of diplomatic talks with the Chinese government about artificial intelligence safety and risk standards. From a report: The U.S. and China are in tight competition to dominate the AI market, both in the private sector and within their own governments. However, the two world powers have yet to agree on what it means to safely use the technologies they're developing.

The United States and China will meet in Switzerland on Tuesday, senior administration officials told reporters during a briefing Friday. Officials from the White House and State Department will lead the U.S. delegation in the talks, while China will bring a delegation co-led by its Ministry of Foreign Affairs and National Development and Reform Commission. The talks will primarily focus on AI risk and safety "with an emphasis on advanced systems," one official said. Officials from the U.S. and China also plan to discuss the work they're doing in their own countries domestically to address AI risks.

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US Kicks Off AI Safety Talks With China

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  • Why? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Monday May 13, 2024 @11:11AM (#64468951)
    Both governments will do what ever they want behind the others back. And both will point it directly at their people first, because that is who the powers running both governments fear the most.
    • I wish I had infinite mod points for you today.

      • Can anyone remotely believe that China or the USA will agree to something, that the agreement will have actual enforceable restrictions, China will freely comply and allow independent compliance verification and the USA will comply and allow independent compliance verification?

        Is this just a nation leaders getting together to 'assure the masses' that there is 'nothing to fear'?

    • The same first thought I had when I read the headline. Where are my mod points when I need them.

    • by SirSlud ( 67381 )

      Without qualifiers and context, this is an observation that one should stop finding useful or relevant to their view of the world by their early twenties.

      Yes, organizations of people acquire power and then use that power to the degree that they believe themselves able to without putting said power at risk. Like .. whoa dude.

    • Both governments will do what ever they want behind the others back.

      AI in America is not being developed by the government.

    • Absolutely true, but we should be talking nonetheless. The US and Russia spent 75 years boxing with one another, while simultaneously working out ways to avoid a situation where either felt compelled to reach for the machinegun that both sides kept stashed in their corner of the ring.

      Uncle Sam is still in the ring going strong, Russia is gnawing on his own forearm and probably wont be in the ring much longer, and China has stepped into corner #3 with his own machinegun. So, even though the US and China
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Monitoring worked reasonably well for nuclear weapons. While in theory they could build secret supercomputers and developer their evil AI models on them, they won't be able to deploy them widely without them being noticed.

      I say widely because they will probably do like the NSA and presumably their Chinese counterpart does, and keep the really good stuff secret. At least until the next Snowden leaks it.

  • by SysEngineer ( 4726931 ) on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:01PM (#64469077)
    China will say one and do another. They will not stop or slow down AI development.
  • Can AI lie? I hope they are not just planning to ask them....
  • Yes, please, thank you, do keep having the two most powerful countries in the world stay in communication, especially about things like this that matter and where they have some real common interest. Of course, there is both competition and cooperation. And the stronger US-China relationships are, the less likely the competitive things are to turn sour in the worst ways.

  • Are they sending the same congressmen/senators that asked guy from TikTok if it has access to their wifi? Same people with average age of 65 that have no clue what a computer does? I can't figure out if it'll be a meeting of 2 sides that have no clue what they are talking about, or just 1... both are bad though.

  • What a waste of time. Do these idiots expect China to keep any promises they make?

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