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Dublin To New York City Portal Temporarily Shut Down Due To Inappropriate Behavior (time.com) 73

Posted by msmash from the no-surprises dept.
A portal linking New York City to Dublin via a livestream has been temporarily shut down after inappropriate behavior ensued, according to the Dublin City Council. From a report: Less than a week after the 24/7 visual art installation was put in place, officials have opted to close it down temporarily after people began to flash each other, grind on the portal, and one person even shared pictures of the twin tower attack to people in New York City. Alternatively, the portal had also been the site of reunions with old friends and even a proposal, with many documenting their experience with the installation online.

The Dublin City Council said that although those engaged in the inappropriate behavior were few and far between, videos of said behavior went viral online. "While we cannot control all of these actions, we are implementing some technical solutions to address this and these will go live in the next 24 hours," the council said in a Monday statement. "We will continue to monitor the situation over the coming days with our partners in New York to ensure that portals continue to deliver a positive experience for both cities and the world."
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  • Working as intended (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SmaryJerry ( 2759091 ) on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @05:38PM (#64472215)
    Getting to see each other's cultures. If doing any of those things is illegal, the local law enforcement should be the one to stop it.

    • From which side? In the US all expressions are generally allowed, especially in NYC but things like exposure to children is not. In Dublin, the reverse policies generally apply, where speech is more controlled vs actions

      But Dublin police canâ(TM)t tell NYC to arrest these people for what they find inappropriate or vice versa. You can either maximize freedom or minimize it, the governments generally will choose the latter.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        It seems it's perfectly legal for women to walk around New York topless. No flashing necessary. Ireland appears to be the same. I very much doubt Ireland has any laws against showing Americans pictures of burning buildings.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Askmum ( 1038780 )

        From which side? In the US all expressions are generally allowed, especially in NYC but things like exposure to children is not.

        You are right. I am still scarred that I was breastfed by my mother. Having those horrible things shoved into my face and being forced to suck on them. Teh horrorz!

        No, really. What is wrong with children seeing boobs? Please explain. Please explain the lasting negative effects on children that have been exposed to naked boobs. Is there a study somewhere?

        • From which side? In the US all expressions are generally allowed, especially in NYC but things like exposure to children is not.

          You are right. I am still scarred that I was breastfed by my mother. Having those horrible things shoved into my face and being forced to suck on them. Teh horrorz!

          No, really. What is wrong with children seeing boobs? Please explain. Please explain the lasting negative effects on children that have been exposed to naked boobs. Is there a study somewhere?

          Please consult your local fear-mongering moral-panicking shit-stirring "silent majority" that never shuts the fuck up about how nudity is evil but are perfectly fine letting kids watch Rambo level guerilla combat movies. Violence = good, training for military. Boobs = evil, may lead to such deviancy as... um, uh, ah, let's see, carry the three, um, liking boobs? I dunno. That's usually the point in the lecture where I fall asleep.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sfcat ( 872532 )
      Between Ireland and NYC? I think in this case a bit of mystery is for the best. You can listen to the Irish EU MPs if you want examples of what perhaps the Irish might not want Americans to see. Given that their entire economy is based upon stealing US tax dollars, they probably should keep quiet as much as possible. Its a pretty easy sell to make US companies pay their taxes and if that happens, Ireland is cooked.

      • Is this where a special task force of New York police officers are teleported to where their ancestors came from?

      • Maybe given that the USA spends piles of its tax dollars manipulating global military actions while whining about not having enough money to provide its citizens with decent education or healthcare, it would be the USA that would be cooked if the people in the USA ever grew some balls and decided to speak up.

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by sfcat ( 872532 )
          Tell me you don't understand global finance without telling me you don't understand global finance. Ireland's economy is largely dependent upon US companies using them as an offshore tax haven. If that goes away, the US governments make more money, corporate profiles go down a bit, Ireland's economy collapses in 6 months and the average US citizen doesn't notice. What that has to do with how much the US spends on education or healthcare is beyond me. BTW, we spend plenty on those things. It is zealots

          • Re: (Score:1)

            by MrNaz ( 730548 )

            Tell me you discovered "tax structure incentives" 5 minutes ago without telling me you discovered "tax structure incentives" 5 minutes ago.

            There's nothing wrong with using tax structures to incentivise companies moving their operations into your jurisdiction. The US does it all the time. Ireland would not turn those incentives off because (shock horror) they did it in the first place for exactly this reason. The only way that would "go away" would be if the companies that take advantage of it were legislate

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by sfcat ( 872532 )
              Moving taxable profits via questionable IP valuations isn't capitalism. It is tax evasion. And limiting those IP transfers is absolutely something the US could do. Cope harder tankie.

              • Re: (Score:1)

                by MrNaz ( 730548 )

                No. It's tax avoidance. Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is not. If you think otherwise, please do let the IRS know because they must be unaware that this is happening.

  • The government seems obsessed with regulating what their citizens are allowed to do, say, think, and act out as forms of expression. Who are they to act like schoolteachers and put people in a timeout for "inappropriate behavior?"

    • Re:Inappropriate Behavior (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Amiga Trombone ( 592952 ) on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @05:50PM (#64472249)

      Because relationship management is main business of every Western governments these days. Yes, I know that's in nobody's constitution anywhere, but here we are.

    • Re:Inappropriate Behavior (Score:5, Informative)

      by test321 ( 8891681 ) on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @06:30PM (#64472343)

      "The Portal" is an installation run by artist Benediktas Gylys. In a public museum, city market, shopping centre, any other private or public facility freely accessible to the public, operators can define usage rules, which usually say that people being annoying to the general enjoyment of other visitors can be sent away by the staff.

      In the present case, one visitor of the installation placed a mobile phone (showing a picture) very close to the camera. Letting aside the choice of the picture being designed for the intent of being annoying or offending (though not illegal), the fact that the picture occupied the whole camera frame, barring the view of the city for visitors on the other side and defeating the purpose of the installation, makes it an annoyance to the other visitors of the artistic installation.

      It's like the swastika ascii-art poster on slashdot. It's not illegal but it's also something that worsens my experience here and I appreciate if slashdot moderators promptly remove it or drive these accounts away entirely. Of course a website is not the public square but this is not exactly "the public square" anymore, it's a sort of "Benediktas' picture corner" that happens to be installed on the public square.

      Another way to see it if of course this was a prank by some kids and we should not worry. The is up to individual levels of tolerance about what is annoying and what is not, and what the artist intended as use for the installation.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by phyrz ( 669413 )

        > It's like the swastika ascii-art poster on slashdot. It's not illegal but it's also something that worsens my experience here and I appreciate if slashdot moderators promptly remove it or drive these accounts away entirely. Of course a website is not the public square but this is not exactly "the public square" anymore, it's a sort of "Benediktas' picture corner" that happens to be installed on the public square.

        By this logic i would appreciate the slashdot mods removing at least half of the posters he

        • I'm By this logic i would appreciate the slashdot mods removing at least half of the posters here

          The fact is that the swastica posts are downvoted -1 by the users themselves and then masked by the moderators. I'm not saying slashdot should be censoring more or less, I'm only describing what is currently happening. Other websites might have different policy. a) Stronger: On lwn.net, sarcasm gets a reply from the general manager to never do that again or be banned. b) Lenient: social networks, some other forums that are unmoderated tend to attract so many comments written to be unpleasant that they becom

    • I'm reasonably sure exposing your ass or genitals on a public street is illegal in both countries. But you keep up that feigned outrage.

    • The government seems obsessed with regulating what their citizens are allowed to do, say, think, and act out as forms of expression. Who are they to act like schoolteachers and put people in a timeout for "inappropriate behavior?"

      Is that an actual question? Who are they? In theory, the elected government. And I'm glad there are limits. I have no doubt in my mind that without certain laws, and the enforcement of those laws, there would be people fucking in the streets. Hell, drive into the downtown of any major city... Good chance that people are shitting / pissing in the streets.

      I suggest you do a little bit of reading about the concept of the "Tragedy of the Commons".

      • >Good chance that people are shitting / pissing in the streets.

        That fits into my point. They'll police the speech of people but will allow cities turn to shit, with actual problems. Not people flashing a portal and flipping the camera off, among other things

        • >Good chance that people are shitting / pissing in the streets.

          That fits into my point. They'll police the speech of people but will allow cities turn to shit, with actual problems. Not people flashing a portal and flipping the camera off, among other things

          I highly doubt it was the flipping the bird that was the "final straw". As the article mentioned, people were exposing themselves on it, as well as flipping it off.

  • Didn't that last 3 weeks?
    LMFAO

    • Reminds me of something my grandpa used to say: "What they don't tear up they shit on." Also agree that folks could have just let local cops deal with it instead of censoring the whole portal, which is kind of symbolic for the way all governments do things these days: use it as an excuse to make war on free expression (and absolutely yes, that includes flashing titties).

  • What the hell did they expect to happen? Were they under the impression that there are zero idiots walking around out there?

    • What the hell did they expect to happen? Were they under the impression that there are zero idiots walking around out there?

      This thing was doomed from the start, especially in New York City, where "Internet" + "Public" + "Visual" virtually guarantees that you're gonna have a bunch of people gooning on camera. The creators surely envisioned this being used for noble, high culture. But this is the city that gave us Lenny Bruce and Andrew Dice Clay. Come on.

  • Seriously, it's NYC. Whatever else you can say about NYC, they had to have known what kind of shenanigans would ensue with such a device.

    I rather thought they intended that, to be honest.

  • Life is not always positive, negativity is just as big a part of it, and people do not always act the way you want them to. People are being people. This is what they do. Your parents lied to you when they told you that you were special and the world was going to conform to your preferences. Ditto when they told you that the world was a kind place always full of love and puppies.

    Neopuritanism and endless moral panics and hissy fits because people don not act the way you would is ultimately doomed to failu

  • Dublin To New York City Portal Temporarily Shut Down Due To Inappropriate Behavior

    I shouldn't be shocked that authorities and the tech/sales people that pushed for this didn't think of it. It's human nature.

    Not only that, legal teams should have seen this coming. Like, who has jurisdiction over someone on the other side of portal if he/she flashes a minor on the other side, for instance? What happens if one side has stricter anti-racist policies than the other side, and one side commits an act that is criminal on his side, but the only witness is someone on the other side? Etc, etc, et

  • This is why we can't have good things.

  • ... it's a webcam, right? (Score:3)

    by trawg ( 308495 ) on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @01:38AM (#64472991) Homepage

    Maybe if they hadn't called it a "portal" they would have anticipated people might do dumb and/or hilarious shit in front of it, just like they've done since forever

  • Its early. I haven't had my caffeine yet. I swear for 0.68 seconds I thought they're invented a teleportation device to move between the two cities.

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