United Airlines Starts Serving Passengers Personalized Ads On Seat-Back Screens (cnbc.com) 95
United Airlines on Friday launched a media platform to serve travelers personalized ads on seat-back screens and in its app, among other platforms, as it seeks to leverage customer data. CNBC reports: United said its new platform, Kinective Media, is already working with Norwegian Cruise Line, Macy's, IHG Hotels & Resorts, TelevisaUnivision and JPMorgan Chase, which offers a host of co-branded credit cards with United. [...] Customers can opt out of seeing targeted ads through a United web page, and United says advertisers can't access customers' personally identifiable information, the airline said. "There is the potential for 3.5 hours of attention per traveler, based on average flight time," United said.
Start bringing a sharpie when you fly (Score:5, Insightful)
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That's a hell of a way to win accommodations at a luxury federal penitentiary resort.
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That's a hell of a way to win accommodations at a luxury federal penitentiary resort.
Do they force ads on us, too? If not, that's all the wins!
Re:Start bringing a sharpie when you fly (Score:5, Insightful)
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Put a sticker on the display with "Occupant warning, your privacy might be compromised"
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The mute buttons no longer work.
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Yeah every pump has speakers near the top of the screen and it's as bad as you think.
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A bit of superglue could mute that.
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There's a station here that has those speakers. I went there once. I won't go there again.
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Just like the vandal heros who circle the mute button at gas station pumps.
OK, from reading this, it *sounds* like there are ads, with audio, at gas pumps in the USA. Is this really A Thing?
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Most if not all newer pumps have the capability to play ads after you select a product and begin pumping. It isn't enabled at every gas station, but it's widespread. And yes there is audio. On many pumps, you can mute the audio by pressing the second softkey from the top, to the right of the screen. It's become a reflex to me to hit that button as soon as I hear the "click" of the ad audio beginning. Unfortunately, it does not work on all pumps.
Dude, that's fucked. It's the kind of thing that was suggested as a joke in movies like Demolition Man! You have my sympathy.
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I was driving behind a box truck the other day. The truck's ENTIRE BACK END was one big video screen playing an ad. I think it might have been a TMobile ad. Very annoying and distracting.
How is that even legal? I thought needlessly distracting motorists was already prohibited. And that doesn't even get started on how fucked up and dystopian it is.
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The shocking thing is that Americans continue to use the gas station. These weirdos will drive a distance to save $0.02 per gallon on gas but just eat up the ads.
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I like the sentiment, but presumably it is already muted because aircraft are so noisy that it would have to be extremely loud, and there would be hundreds of them all competing for attention in the cabin.
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Just like the vandal heros who circle the mute button at gas station pumps.
You have speaking ads at petrol pumps?
That is one trend I'm glad we don't have over here.
This kind of abuse is going to continue until your government (which I've been told is "of the people, for the people") lays down some laws with teeth to limit the abuse.
They stopped serving food (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:They stopped serving food (Score:4, Insightful)
Mmmm, delicious ads.
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and started serving ads.
But will they retain their taste & texture at cruising altitude? Or will they be BLAH like all other airline food out there?
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I suspect it's decent 'roughage'
So is a tasteless rice cracker /s
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So, 3.5h of forced ads in a confined space? (Score:2)
United Airlines Starts Serving Passengers Personalized Ads On Seat-Back Screens
"There is the potential for 3.5 hours of attention per traveler, based on average flight time," United said.
They think passengers are angry now? Sure, complaining may get you fined and some federal prison time, but ...
Who actually thinks this is a good idea?
Or 3.5h of private bliss (Score:1)
3.5h of forced ads in a confined space?
And this is why you buy an Apple Vision Pro, which can pretty much entirely block out sights and sounds of the annoying plane for the full duration.
Put as many ads as you like on there United! You'll be talking to my shiny metal...
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good to know you cant hear the rest of us snickering about it
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good to know you cant hear the rest of us snickering about it
It does tend to shut out the whispering of jealous losers quite well. Enjoy your 3.5 hours of ads! That tends to quiet the snickering even better than Apple's excellent noise cancellation.
I always find it hilarious that Anti-Apple people care more about appearances than Apple users ever have. I just like good products.
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Until Apple starts putting forced ads in the Vision Pro. And the FAA regulations require you to watch the ads and provide a verbal confirmation.
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Nope (Score:1)
Until Apple starts putting forced ads in the Vision Pro
Not Gonna Happen Ever.
That's why I Said Apple Vision Pro and not the Meta Quest
Apple doens't make money on ads they make money on product. Learn the difference or suffer eternal ad torment.
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Advertisers think it's a good idea. Myself, I think it's a good excuse to demand $200 off the ticket or no fly with you.
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If I'm being forced to watch ads the entire flight, then those tickets should be free.
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Added weight? (Score:2)
Aren't airlines always bitching about weight, etc... using fuel and eating up profits.
Don't all these screens weigh more, and use more power, than a blank seat back?
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They're already on the seat, trying to milk some pay-per-view out of you. Before it either was either blank or a logo. I guess now its full-on-minority report.
Thanks for the info. I haven't flown since 2005 and don't remember any screens anywhere, at least in coach...
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Seriously? How did you manage to avoid flying for 19 years? That sounds like BS to me.
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Seriously? How did you manage to avoid flying for 19 years? That sounds like BS to me.
Please don't ruin my fantasy. I was enjoying that!
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Seriously? How did you manage to avoid flying for 19 years? That sounds like BS to me.
My wife died in Jan 2006 and I haven't had any need to travel farther than driving distance.
Remember Sue... [tumblr.com]
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Ohh sorry. Yeah I knew she had passed away from previous posts you had made .. it didn't click to me that it was back then.
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I think last year was one of the first in many years, a 770 mile drive is getting a bit long to do for my spouse, but I'd do that in a, long, day without much issue.
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I'll be 42 soon and have never flown anywhere. Living in a small European country is just like that.
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I'll be 42 soon and have never flown anywhere. Living in a small European country is just like that.
Railways are wonderful.
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The Matrix (Score:2)
The coffin-sized seating area and the screen to dull your mind not to thing of it remind me of this other movie.
That's evil (Score:5, Insightful)
You pay, you're confined to a seat, they shove ads in your face, and if you do anything about it you might end up in jail on serious charges for interfering with the flight.
Just no. The person who thought this up, the person who approved it, the team who developed it, and the people who installed it should all be hanged in the public square as a lesson to others.
Sirius Cybernetics Corporation (Score:5, Informative)
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You pay, you're confined to a seat, they shove ads in your face
I still say call the flight attendant and ask them to Turn off the screen running ads, because ``they're distracting and upsetting''.
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Buy our overpriced in-flight movie, or else!
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Don't forget that they've been repeatedly heavily bailed out with our tax money and continue to raise prices while they pack us in tighter.
Thank you for the reminder. I had forgotten about how United Airlines filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy: https://www.airwaysmag.com/leg... [airwaysmag.com]
And got a bailout: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/0... [nytimes.com]
Nice to see they are now extending a middle finger to their paying customers.
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How would you even pitch this to advertisers?
Yes, you can have a "captive audience". But a second thought - you have people who have been forced to look at our ad for 1-6 hours (assuming domestic flight in US), without possibility to escape.
They'll definitely remember your brand...and swear to never buy it, ever.
In traditional advertisement "annoying" ads are assumed to still be ok, because it still builds awareness of your brand and product, but the key distinction is that people can still change channel/g
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How would you even pitch this to advertisers?
Yes, you can have a "captive audience". But a second thought - you have people who have been forced to look at our ad for 1-6 hours (assuming domestic flight in US), without possibility to escape.
They'll definitely remember your brand...and swear to never buy it, ever.
In traditional advertisement "annoying" ads are assumed to still be ok, because it still builds awareness of your brand and product, but the key distinction is that people can still change channel/go to bathroom/etc and get out of the situation...
I predict that this will die quietly when United realises that the cost of vandalism to the seatback screens exceeds the revenue from the advertising.
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Isn't that the same screen that shows movies?
They can go further (Score:1)
Imagine if you will, ads not just based on what it knows about you, but what it knows also about the people sitting around you... either knowing they might catch a glimpse of your ad, or just based on something about them....
Like if you have the middle seat between two really large people you get an ad about a spa you can visit after you land to help cleanse yourself.
Aloha! (Score:2)
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"Crippling leg pain from tiny seats? Try Tylenol!"
Re: Aloha! (Score:3)
Or they make the Target mistake and show prenatal vitamin ads to a teenager sitting between her parents.
cardstock (Score:2)
> "There is the potential for 3.5 hours of attention per traveler, based on average flight time,"
Not on THIS passenger. I would never use such a system- I bring my own tablet and content, thanks. And if that stupid thing has animation when not being used, I would just have to remember to bring a piece of cardstock and some tape.
It is just like those incredibly annoying "kiosks" they put on restaurant tables. Constant freaking annoying animation. As soon as I sit down, I either put it on the floor, or
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First thing I do at the gas pump is hit the mute button (2nd down on the right). If they ever disable that I might start stabbing the screens...
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Finally! (Score:5, Funny)
I was just complaining that seats are too large, food is too available on planes and there aren't enough ads in my life.
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I was just complaining that seats are too large, food is too available on planes and there aren't enough ads in my life.
Don't forget the convenient check-in and respectful TSA staff!
Next... (Score:2)
The next step is to give you a "discount" for the length of time you do not turn off the TV. (As a positive alternative spin to charging you money for not viewing it.)
Next is using a camera to detect how much you look at it.
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I was just complaining that seats are too large
And then he said "Hold my triple supersized el-grande burger with extra fries!"
just give me an $8 beer so I can space out in the (Score:2)
just give me an $8 beer so I can space out in the flight!
Personalized?? (Score:1)
Based on what? Race? Sex? Or do they have all my likes and dislikes in a file somewhere? If they did they know I hate ads.
Can we outlaw advertising soon? This is getting ridiculous.Paying for ads so the asshole corporations don't have to.
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Never, ever tell them you hate ads. It just incentivizes them to show you *more* ads in the hopes you'll change your mind. Better to just write a letter to every advertiser telling them how you've vowed to never again purchase their product or service since they've been trying to cram it down your throat, and you will suggest to your friends that they follow suit.
No. Hit them in the wallet. Tape over the screen. Draw over the screen with Sharpie. Complain to the flight attendants that the advertising is making you "uneasy" (or "threatened" or "triggered" or whatever the flavour of the month is)
One more reason to never fly anywhere ever again (Score:2)
Yay! (Score:3)
Considering how much I have to pay for tickets, how bloody uncomfortable the seats are, how horrid the food is, the fact that the moron three seats down from me somehow filled my overhead storage with a pile of crap he/she should never have been able to get on board as hand luggage, the screaming kids, the moron in front of me reclining his/her seat and dumping the horrid food into my lap, those 'personalised ads' had better be for good deals on alternate forms of transport.
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Considering how much I have to pay for tickets, how bloody uncomfortable the seats are, how horrid the food is, the fact that the moron three seats down from me somehow filled my overhead storage with a pile of crap he/she should never have been able to get on board as hand luggage, the screaming kids, the moron in front of me reclining his/her seat and dumping the horrid food into my lap, those 'personalised ads' had better be for good deals on alternate forms of transport.
I thought United got rid of seatback screens in their narrowbody fleet years ago...
But good news about that arsehole reclining into your face, more and more airlines are taking that ability away to squeeze in one more row onto A320 and B737 family aircraft.
Widget idea (Score:2)
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yellow stickers are available up to at least 5x8", and I think larger.
Just toss a pad in your bags.
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Shades of Max Headroom (circa 1985):
TV network guy: "His TV has an off button. He'll get 30 years for that!"
oh Jesus Christ (Score:2)
United Meeting: (Score:2)
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VP of Bullshit Ideas: What could we do to make flying even less pleasant than it already is, yet turn a larger profit?
Staff attendee on Team Fuck the Customer: I know! Force them to watch ads after they have been herded like cattle, went through the slave scanner, had their bags rifled by the TSA, and got yelled at by an unfriendly flight attendant.
Don't forget "removed their shoes and belt, had their water confiscated"
Because "security."
Chris Cristie: (Score:3)
"Why do I keep getting these fucking Peloton ads!?"
Turning it off. (Score:2)
That's what tablets are for.
Personalized ads? (Score:2)
I think I could sue them (Score:1)
Ad-free ticket fees? (Score:2)
How long before the fees go up and up, like Amazon YouTube and others have done?
I'll skip the fees, bring a good book to read, and wear a hat with a bill that blocks the screen while reading the book. Then United will add fees for wearing such hats...