The AI Job Interviewer Will See You Now 82
AI is increasingly being employed in job interviews across China and India, marking a significant shift in recruitment practices in the region. This follows a similar practice making inroads in the U.S. Rest of World adds: A 2023 survey of 1,000 human-resources workers by the U.S. firm ResumeBuilder found that 10% of companies were already using AI in the hiring process, and another 30% planned to start the following year. The research firm Gartner listed natural-language chatbots as one of 2023's key innovations for the recruiting industry, designating the technology as experimental but promising. Companies like Meituan, Siemens, and Estee Lauder are using AI-powered interviews, with platforms such as MoSeeker, Talently.ai, and Instahyre leading the charge in AI recruitment solutions.
No, it will not (Score:4, Insightful)
They will just have to do without me if they pull crap like that. Their loss.
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Despite my 7-digit user number, I'm 58, and I agree with gweihir. And companies that can get along just fine without experienced people like us, already don't want people like us, and we don't want to work for them. Companies that require actual skill that is acquired through years of experience...that's a great place to work.
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Exactly. Obviously, people that have not continued learning become pretty undesirable workers when they turn 50 or so. Those that did continue to learn are the people you sometimes search for years for or do not find at all.
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Re:No, it will not (Score:4, Informative)
One of the advantages to being close to retirement age is I can shake my head at these sorts of stories and say "Thank God I likely won't have to put up with this sort of garbage".
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Yep, same here. Well, on my level, I routinely do not go through regular application processes anyways.
Wait until you're 50 (Score:2)
Now a lot of that is high interest rates designed to lower pay combined with market consolidation allowing companies to collude (or just plain all being the same company), but it's still not something we saw even during the 2008 crash.
The world's changed. And not for the better. Maybe you'll drop dead before it catches up with you. I'd say
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Having been through the job market in 2009, things are so much better today it isn't even funny. Just because some companies are abusing AI in China doesn't change that for U.S. job seekers, things are pretty good these days.
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For many people my age, yes. For me personally, no. All jobs I ever had after my engineering PhD in the IT security area are ones where I was asked to work for somebody. I am not even sure I have ever written a real job application. I have written fake ones where it was already agreed I get the job.
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For many people my age, yes. For me personally, no. All jobs I ever had after my engineering PhD in the IT security area are ones where I was asked to work for somebody. I am not even sure I have ever written a real job application. I have written fake ones where it was already agreed I get the job.
When a person is capable enough, yes they will have people coming after them to do work. While I filled out an application and submitted a resume for my latest position, I had the job before I did any of that, just so we had all of the I's dotted and the T's crossed.
Networking helps, although I think a lot of people don't believe in it. But that's how I've been found by prospective employers. Person A has a problem that needs fixed, and person B knows me, or knows someone that knows me. Probably the sam
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Networking helps, although I think a lot of people don't believe in it. But that's how I've been found by prospective employers. Person A has a problem that needs fixed, and person B knows me, or knows someone that knows me. Probably the same thing for you.
I am not good at networking, but even my meagre efforts worked out reasonably well. I do have a list of people I can talk to ask should I ever need to start actively searching.
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There's a lot of reasons to be optimistic. Wages are up, inflation is down, interest rates are projected to fall in the near term, union support is up, manufacturing jobs are returning, and unemployment and crime are at an all-time low.
Yes, we're facing some serious problems like an aging population, corporate consolidation, a housing crisis, rising education costs, daily mass-shootings, police abuse, and increasing right-wing extremism, but things are far from hopeless. We know how to address all of thes
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Well. You have certainly mastered the art of kidding yourself.
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Can you refute anything I've written with actual facts, not baseless speculation?
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First, you need to add references and proof to your claims. It is you making claims, after all and they are, probably intentionally, fuzzy and nebulous.
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So you can't. Why am I not surprised?
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I'm 58, and I've never had trouble getting great jobs. Most recently, I was hired in March 2023 by a technology company, to build and manage two new software development teams. A 25-year-old isn't going to do so well at that kind of task.
If you're "experienced" (older) like me, and you've stagnated, stuck on ASP.NET Classic or some such, you're going to have trouble finding work. But if you keep up with changes to technology, as annoying as that might be sometimes, you will still be in demand.
I saw another story about this... (Score:5, Interesting)
There was an AI software for grading a candidate during a camera on interview.
If you had the exact same person interview the exact same way, but selecting a bookshelf background, it gave a higher grade to the interview with the bookshelf backdrop...
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I wonder what would have happened if there was a wall of computer monitors in the background, all on, all showing different processes running.
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I wonder what would have happened if there was a wall of computer monitors in the background, all on, all showing different processes running.
The AI would probably scrape what was on the computer screens.
Re:I saw another story about this... (Score:5, Funny)
it gave a higher grade to the interview with the bookshelf backdrop...
Do you think it could be swayed by a partially covered motherboard in the background? Enough to get its imagination going?
what about race? did they test white vs black? (Score:4, Interesting)
what about race? did they test white vs black?
Re:I saw another story about this... (Score:4, Interesting)
AI is "you were so busy seeing if you could you never stopped to ask if you should" in real life.
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And you don't actually want *any* of those jobs. A company with a recruiting process that bad, isn't worth working for.
Judging by demographics and appearance only (Score:5, Interesting)
There's credible research that half the population judges by a person's demographics and appearance first to determine whether to approve or disapprove with them.
So an unattractive person might have a harder time getting a job, staying out of jail, getting a reduced sentence for a crime, etc. ...
So maybe don't be old, don't be male, don''t be tall and thin, don't be white,
https://faculty.knox.edu/fmcan... [knox.edu]
- 95.3% of our respondents thought that creepy people were much more likely to be males than females,
- The person had very pale skin
- being of the opposite sex
- being older
https://ideas.ted.com/what-mak... [ted.com]
- highly distinctive physical characteristics are outside of the norm
- This is an example of the “halo effect,” a deeply rooted bias where we assume that people who are more attractive are generally more trustworthy, ambitious, healthier, etc
- people who are perceived as unattractive are, on the whole, less likely to get good jobs and get reasonable healthcare.
- found that unattractive and untrustworthy-looking people were convicted of crimes by mock jurors with less evidence and they were less likely to be exonerated after evidence that proved their innocence
- . Other researchers have found that having an untrustworthy face makes it more likely you’ll be given a harsher criminal sentence, such as the death penalty.
- If we perceive a face where nothing stands out, we take it all in at once. We perceive it as a whole. As human.
- But as soon as something captures our attention by being abnormal, we start to deconstruct the face — and then we deconstruct the person. We see the deformity, the irregularly-spaced eyes, the funny nose, the acne, and we stop seeing the face as a human whole.
And then there's the lawyers telling black males to wear glasses to help their chance in court https://www.brookings.edu/arti... [brookings.edu]
and HR departments are 90% women (Score:2)
And the "he is not dating material, and creepy' and "not a good fit for this job" is a real thing.
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There was an AI software for grading a candidate during a camera on interview.
If you had the exact same person interview the exact same way, but selecting a bookshelf background, it gave a higher grade to the interview with the bookshelf backdrop...
Well, we know who was smart enough to use a good background ... surely that counts for something :D
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There was an AI software for grading a candidate during a camera on interview.
If you had the exact same person interview the exact same way, but selecting a bookshelf background, it gave a higher grade to the interview with the bookshelf backdrop...
To be fair, this kind of stuff works with humans too... In fact I'd say humans are more susceptible to it.
/.ers won't be familiar with this, but dressing for success is still very important in getting a new job, especially a good job. First impressions last and all that, the person who put some effort into their appearance will appeal to people more than those who didn't.
Bookcase vs blank wall, nice shirt and tie vs a plain t-shirt, I'm aware most
If you gave the exact same person in two interview vid
This is an improvement, hear me out (Score:5, Interesting)
Up to now, the first person you talked to was an HR drone who literally knows nothing about your skills or the skills needed for the job. This negative value person often bumped high quality people and pushed up shit people because of some dumb ass nonsense.
With this you'll get an AI who will give you a score at the end of your text chat. It doesn't care what your clothing looks like or if you missed a spot shaving or you look too much like that guy who pumped and dumped her last week.
How could this be any worse than what's been going on?
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or you look too much like that guy who pumped and dumped her last week.
Don't worry, you're safe unless she has a fetish for basement dwelling neckbeards.
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Of course! The natural habitat maybe a basement but not one in their own house, in their mum's house.
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I was referring albeit obliquely to the person I was originally making the comment about.
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You’re going to trust poorly implemented AI on interpreting your answers?
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This is why everyone thinks you're an idiot.
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As opposed to an HR drone?
Yes. Every time.
Looks like you pissed off serviscope minor there! That is always a good thing.
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With this you'll get an AI who will give you a score at the end of your text chat. It doesn't care what your clothing looks like or if you missed a spot shaving or you look too much like that guy who pumped and dumped her last week.
From what I've seen recently it would, because its training set would have such biases.
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"It [the AI job interviewer] doesn't care what your clothing looks like or if you missed a spot shaving or you look too much like that guy who pumped and dumped her last week."
It might, though. How could we know? It doesn't even know. It's trying to match the predicted output of its data set, the sources of which are host to a wide variety of irrational prejudices.
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The thing is AI will never give you a break. It won't bump you up to first class when you look tired. It won't waive your fee because it understands you're having a difficult time. AI will never sneak an extra donut into your box, because she saw you help an elderly person. In short, AI will always act in the interest of its owner. The AI isn't your neighbor. The less we value the human element, the more we'll be replaced.
AI can't do what I do (Score:5, Insightful)
My job is secure, no way AI can slack off like me. It takes ADHD, it takes procrastination .. you can't teach an AI that stuff.
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I've told employers before that any decision worth doing, is worth waiting a week to see if you still want to do it.
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Its almost like (Score:5, Interesting)
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I had an interview that lasted an entire day once. They sent me an itinerary with every department blocked off for an hour. Well after 10 minutes you run out of stuff to talk about. A year later that same company wanted to do an all day interview again for the same job. Told them my time was limited and they squeezed it down to 4 hours.
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I find if you run out of things to talk about after only 10 minutes in an interview, it's usually not a good fit. A really good interview goes over time without either the interviewer or interviewee noticing.
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I had that with my previous job. Lasted only 7 months.
It isn't a guarantee, unfortunately :)
Please interact with my AI (Score:5, Funny)
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why is this "funny" seems entirely the correct response.
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until the process has advanced to the point there is a human on the other end. At that point, I will receive notification and join the conversation.
Honestly, not a bad idea. My AI can weed out all the recruiters looking for completely different sorts of people, those who won't name salary ranges, etc.
Job hunting in 2024 (Score:4, Interesting)
Is turning into a dystopian nightmare. Lots of times you have no idea who you’re applying to because companies don’t list things directly. Those that do self post all use Workday or some variation of so you’re forced to create an account with a password to register. Then spend the last several minutes clicking through the same questions about your race and disability status.
Eventually you’ll run into virtual recruiter Jamie who calls and asks your to talk about yourself. In that instance I called the recruitment agency and spoke to a real person. There’s tons of jobs listed but no one seems to be hiring. They all want that unicorn employee.
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Cost to keep a 99.9% rejection rate fishing hook in the water: Very little
Yield if it manages to intercept a unicorn who you might trick into cheap pay: Very high
Seems to me like a smart move even if your company doesn't actually need anyone. No one should be surprised this has been an utter shitshow for ages.
This new tech just slightly exacerbates an old mess, further encouraging perpetual fake-bait.
Your AI can interview my AI (Score:2)
Since a prospective employer is sending an AI to the interview, I assume the potential candidate can as well.
Your AI can interview my AI. If they like each other, maybe we can meet up some time and discuss the job.
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Since a prospective employer is sending an AI to the interview, I assume the potential candidate can as well.
Your AI can interview my AI. If they like each other, maybe we can meet up some time and discuss the job.
Reminds me of the old video of two Furby's talking to each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] Or a Furby having a talk with Siri - https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Since we're here - this one is old but gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
nah, I'd rather retire (Score:2)
I have a ton of experience and can talk about many accomplishments. I'm not going to be screened by AI. I'm not game for multiple rounds of interviews culminating in a full day of interviewing with half the staff, including on-the-fly whiteboard solutions to the companies pressing issues. Treat me with a little respect and you will get respect in return.
I'd prefer it (Score:2)
I've never had a good interview with HR - they're not specialists in IT, they don't even know what they're asking me about, how are they supposed to test my competence. Sure, I get hired, but it's about charming them, not convincing them I can do the things I list on my resume.
Might as well do that stupid part with an AI agent, it'd be more dignified.
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How do you charm something that has no emotions? You need to get along with your human co-workers if you are going to succeed.
You have no idea how it works or by what criteria it is judging you. The people employing this garbage have to blindly trust it to do the right thing.
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Right! An AI would (hopefully) be trained on job-specific criteria so it could judge me like a standardized test... Which is the filter HR is supposed to be applying before giving a short list to managers for round two. Round one is currently complete bullshit, and round two is supposed to be informed by round one... But GIGO.
Most good jobs come from recommendations (Score:2)
Unsolicited resumes have been automatically processed for years by stupid robots.
Even if a real person looks at them, after a while they all start looking the same because far too many people buy a book on resume writing and follow the standard advice.
This is a complex problem.
I can imagine a future where AI helps candidates create accurate resumes and company AI correctly analyzes them, resulting in companies finding excellent candidates.
Unfortunately, today's AI will just make the process a bit shittier t
Obligatory (Score:2)
Thank you. Come again!
Will the AI hang up on me? (Score:2)
If not it's already better than the phone screeners at TSMC.
Ignoring the given human bias.... (Score:2)
ignoring the human bias* with HR staff and what they bring to the interview/hiring process, won't the AI bring it's own bias? and make it easier for courts to discover and find the company liable for discriminatory hiring process? (while also making it easier for the likes of IBM to only hire recent graduates) Not to mention being more susceptible to getting gamed as interviewees eventually find the weak points to get past them. This feels like yet another layer for applicants to navigate through for n
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Of course the AI is going to replicate human biases in its training data.
The purpose deploying these AIs is so they can blame the computer, instead of a person.
It's the same impetus behind a company outsourcing potentially problematic work, so that they can blame the contractor instead of themselves. (see Spirit Aerosystems)
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Building the plane and performing maintenance aren't the problematic work - Spirit Aerosystems makes it easier with layoffs and overhead when it's time to downshift operations. Technically, Spirit Aerosystems wasn't the issue when it came to building and maintaining the damned things- They did what they always did at levels they usually did, the thing that changed was Boeings oversight and decision to simply stop looking for problems. They used to perform quality control checks on parts and inspections on
I'm getting resumes designed to exploit AI (Score:2)
I say this because I'll read something like: "Improved system input responsiveness by using selects, gaining a 50% improvement.". Wha
I look forward to an AI interviewer (Score:2)
Maybe applicants can use AI too ? (Score:2)
That would only be fitting, in this situation . One chatbot against another. See who hallucinates first.
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This (my AI versus your AI) is already where we are now, the olds just don't understand it yet.
Not a bad idea (Score:1)
Easy peasy (Score:2)