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Microsoft Paint is Getting Photoshop-like Generative AI Fill and Erase Features (theverge.com) 26

Microsoft is bringing some new AI-powered Paint and Photos features to Copilot Plus PCs that could make creatives less reliant on more powerful image editing software. From a report: Generative Fill and Generative Erase -- which appear to be heavily inspired by similar AI tools in Adobe Photoshop -- are being introduced to Paint, allowing users to precisely add or remove objects in their images.

Both tools utilize a size-adjustable brush to "paint" over specific areas of an image to edit. Generative Erase will remove unwanted figures, objects like background clutter, and other distractions, similar to the Magic Eraser feature on Google's Pixel phones. Generative Fill allows Paint users to add new AI-generated assets to an image using a text description and select precisely where they should be placed -- much like the Photoshop tool that shares the same name. These build on the Cocreator tool for Paint announced for Copilot Plus PCs earlier this year that can generate images using a combination of text prompts and reference sketches. The company says the diffusion-based model powering these features has been updated to improve output quality and speed and now includes "built-in moderation" to help prevent it from being abused.

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Microsoft Paint is Getting Photoshop-like Generative AI Fill and Erase Features

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  • Can't they fix ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by UnknownSoldier ( 67820 ) on Tuesday October 01, 2024 @04:09PM (#64832181)

    ... the arrows keys moving the mouse pointer or at least add a way to disable this crap. I'm sure ALL the people using Paint want a "smart erase" feature. /s

    The only reason I used MS Paint for so long is because it is fast to start and I can save .png and .jpg until I discovered ShareX.

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      They tried to make it tablet-friendly, but made it mouse-buggy instead.

      MS, Stop Screwing With Paint!

      They added that 3D gizmo to it, but then yanked it Google-style when people realized it was crap, and now they are adding an AI gizmo, and will probably F that up and have to remove it also, but create side-effects in the process.

      MS, we use Windows for compatibility and familiarity. If you fuck with either, we will leave. You are NOT cutting edge, you DON'T know how to make decent UI's anymore, you are NOT ex

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        MS, Stop Screwing With Paint!

        Incompetently screwing with things is all MS has left. They are somehow under the delusion that making Windows worse is good if what they do is "new" and "innovative".

        MS, we use Windows for compatibility and familiarity. If you fuck with either, we will leave. You are NOT cutting edge, you DON'T know how to make decent UI's anymore, you are NOT exciting, but we don't want exciting, so fire the PHB's and artsy fartsy types and just fix your damn bugs.

        Indeed. That is about the best summary of the Windows state I have read in a while. Fits perfectly.

        • It's like they are rearranging chairs, and breaking many of them in the process, all the while trying to add more chairs with various defects in them. The motorized recliner sometimes electrocutes you, and the garden chairs have backs that break off, leaving behind a sharp wooden stake about to impale you.
          • by gweihir ( 88907 )

            Yes. Or mixing broken glass into food and claiming it improves the experience.

          • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

            and we learn how to work around these flaws out of trial and error, such as "don't decline the chair more than 35% on Tuesdays". But when MS changes shit around, the furniture finds new ways to injure us.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      I use paint to crop and then print screenshots. No other uses. Of course I "want" generative AI in there....not.

      • Yeah, MS Paint, the world's shittiest paint program, with all the sophistication and features of a one-week CompSci undergrad project. Why does anyone still bother with this PoS when you've got Paint.NET freely available?
        • I can't answer for others but the reason I've used MS Paint for decades include:

          * Fast startup.
          * Nothing extra to install.
          * Been standard for decades.
          * No finger gymnastics needed. Alt-PrintScreen and Ctrl-V just works,
          * Fast workflow to save to .png or .jpg.

          For anything more complex I use GIMP of Affinity Photo.

          • That's pretty much describing Paint.NET, except that it's also got more than the bare-minimum features of Paint so you won't need to reach for GIMP that often.

            It's actually such an obvious replacement for Paint that some Microsoft person wrote a blog post on it a few years back explaining why they didn't just toss Paint and replace it with Paint.NET. Apparently they get quite a few requests for this.

      • How are you capturing the screenshots? Shift + Win + S will open snipping tool in region mode. You select the area and it will capture just that region. Click the notification and you have the screenshot and you can edit, save, or print right from there.

    • Some 30 years ago when I used MS Paint for pixel art (I do it now with Gimp), moving pointer from keyboard was an useful feature.

  • by Pseudonymous Powers ( 4097097 ) on Tuesday October 01, 2024 @04:09PM (#64832183)

    US: [for 30 years]: Hey, can we get layers and transparency in MS Paint?

    MS: [for 30 years]: What? Lol, no. This program only ever existed to teach members of the Greatest Generation how to use a mouse. But Solitaire turned out to be way better for that. And now they're all dead.

    [Later...]

    US: Can you please not put AI in all the tools that we depend on to allow us to create valuable, salable business content?

    MS: What? Lol, no. In fact, the only place we have left to put AI is the useless stuff. Like Paint. Which we'd forgotten about until now! (And don't worry, we won't forget Solitaire. Maybe the people on the face cards will try to sell you things. That's just for starters.)

    • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Tuesday October 01, 2024 @04:19PM (#64832227)

      US: [for 30 years]: Hey, can we get layers and transparency in MS Paint?

      Noting that GIMP has also run on Windows for many years ...

      • by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Tuesday October 01, 2024 @04:33PM (#64832265)
        I think most people on Windows use paint.net as an alternative. It's got 99% of the features that most users want without burying them under tons of things that only 1% of users need. GIMP has always been nearly as full featured as Photoshop (at least once you find a plugin for some features), which most users don't need, but has always come with the enormous downside of having to learn how to use GIMP. I do have it installed on my Mac (since paint.net is Windows only), but I have never really enjoyed using it and I feel like the people who have designed it have completely different ideas than I do as to how an image editor should work.
    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      > can we get layers and transparency in MS Paint?

      A work-around for transparency is to set the selected color to background color, then switch Transparent Selection on. But this generally only works on "flat" art, not photos.

    • US: [for 30 years]: Hey, can we get layers and transparency in MS Paint?

      MS: [for 30 years]: What? Lol, no. This program only ever existed to teach members of the Greatest Generation how to use a mouse. But Solitaire turned out to be way better for that. And now they're all dead.

      [Later...]

      US: Can you please not put AI in all the tools that we depend on to allow us to create valuable, salable business content?

      MS: What? Lol, no. In fact, the only place we have left to put AI is the useless stuff. Like Paint. Which we'd forgotten about until now! (And don't worry, we won't forget Solitaire. Maybe the people on the face cards will try to sell you things. That's just for starters.)

      I dunno. I kind of think there might be a place in the OS for a rudimentary, one-click image up-scaler.

      Can't you imagine Grandma clicking on the crappy Facebook image, clicking the "make bigger" button, then the "set as wallpaper" button?

      I like the idea of things that come with the OS being simple but useful, and I think this could qualify. Just enough image tools to whet an appetite, but not so much that the basics are hidden in a sea of buttons and ribbons.

    • 30 years ago I used to use Paint too, now I am on Gimp, but pretty sure Paint in Windows 11 has layers.

  • What can I say, I like Paint - I am not a visual artist, so generally all I am doing is throwing a concept together, at most. Or pasting a screenshot and cropping it and circling stuff to show someone something.

    95% of the time, I don't need a Photoshop or Gimp.

    The new tools sound handy.

  • i look forward to how AI will change and improve GIMP = GNU Imagd Manipulation Program
  • When the transparency @#_?!$# in windows 10 paint just screwed up image editing, I downloaded paint for windows 7. And it not only works great on both 10 and 11, but it's fast and I've even replaced the buggy win10 POS as my default image editor. Criminy. Another win for the tried and true

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