Reddit Is Profitable For the First Time Ever (theverge.com) 87
In Reddit's third-quarter earnings results, the company reported a profit of $29.9 million, with $348.4 million in revenue -- a 68% increase year over year. The Verge reports: The company hasn't been profitable at any point in its nearly 20-year history. Since going public, Reddit lost $575 million during its first quarter on the market, but it decreased that loss to $10 million last quarter, and is now finally in the green. Reddit also grew to 97.2 million daily users over the past few months, marking a 47 percent increase from the same time last year. That number exceeded 100 million users on some days during the quarter, Reddit says.
Reddit's advertising revenue grew to $315.1 million, while "other" revenue reached $33.2 million on account of "data licensing agreements signed earlier this year." Both Google and OpenAI have cut deals with Reddit to train their AI models on its posts.
Reddit's advertising revenue grew to $315.1 million, while "other" revenue reached $33.2 million on account of "data licensing agreements signed earlier this year." Both Google and OpenAI have cut deals with Reddit to train their AI models on its posts.
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We did it reddit!
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Reddit is all bots and partisan moderators. Watch the post volume drop dramatically after the election.
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Maybe in your little corner of Reddit.
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the political partisan vitriol will just be replaced with political satire, I don't think it will "drop" that much
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Who is silvergun? I saw rsilvergun posting a few times and despite the fact that I find a lot of his "hot takes" just partisan nonsense rambling to say the least, there are always some posters joking about him or making derogatory comments. Not that I'm offended by them, but why do they seem to be targeting him speficially? Is he some sort of local celebrity on this website? I know there was one guy who was spamming his software named APK or something like that but that doesn't seem to be the case for this
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Just old farts being old farts. Nothing to see here, move along.
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But really any chat forum eventually becomes what you just described.
Fuck /u/spez (Score:1, Insightful)
Profit beats quality (Score:2, Insightful)
Unfortunately, unless you want cat videos and other ephemera, Reddit is not what it once was.
Maybe this is because many of the moderators left or, essentially, internet communities tend towards entropy.
Re:Profit beats quality (Score:5, Interesting)
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Agreed - using a search engine improves the signal to noise ratio for targetted consumption (i.e. reading about a specific thing).
Reddit, on its own, tends towards noise in some subs of interest to me (accepting this is a self-selected sample). This untargeted consumption (i.e. scrolling through a sub) is often not what is once was.
Reddit was designed for consumption related to ones interests - i.e. untargeted consumption within your choice of subs.
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fascist / terrorist propaganda, typically pro-Russian or pro-Chinese
I'm quite active on Reddit. I hear this claim a lot, but I don't see it.
Can you provide me some examples on r/politics today?
Don't need a long list, just a half-dozen examples of factually incorrect stories or upvoted posts that are fascist / terrorist propaganda that is typically pro-Russian or pro-Chinese?
Thanks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/polit... [reddit.com]
Re:Profit beats quality (Score:4, Interesting)
Most often, they are comments. And they are also usually not on the subs intended for the subject. So you'll see a lot of comments on r/pics for example, especially those that relate to ongoing conflict, that relate to misleading stories about what the situation really is.
You'll find more on Twitter, mostly because they don't get taken down. But you can find some good examples here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ignor... [reddit.com]
However, the same bots do a lot of karma farming to be able to continue to make the divisive posts, so you'll see a lot like this example: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatG... [reddit.com]
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If it's on there, I think the person would have to be aggressively searching for it to find it What I expect are more subtle posts nudging people into accepting these things
OTOH This could just be a scare tactic to get authority to clamp down further on these kinds of forums, rendering them just about useless for any real political discussion. I've seen the "pro terrorist" slam being leveled against many different discussion sites and yet I have yet to see even one post as evidence of what they claim.
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Unfortunately, unless you want cat videos and other ephemera, Reddit is not what it once was.
Maybe this is because many of the moderators left or, essentially, internet communities tend towards entropy.
Funny how all these people claimed to have left and then total number of users increased. Has the profit motive caused them to start spinning up spambots? If so? How would we know the difference between them an actual humans posting nonsense?
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I think he refers to mods leaving their "job" as mods.
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Unfortunately, unless you want cat videos and other ephemera, Reddit is not what it once was.
Maybe this is because many of the moderators left or, essentially, internet communities tend towards entropy.
Reddit is basically politics and porn now.
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Darnit, I must be on the wrong reddit, because I see neither.
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I want the cat videos. Can't get em. Its just page after page of the same boring political memes, NPC replies, and links to paywalled news.
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Maybe it's like that in your hentai community. But to most people Reddit is the same as it always was.
"and is now finally in the green." (Score:4, Informative)
Should be:
"and is now finally in the black."
If using proper accounting terms.
Re:"and is now finally in the green." (Score:5, Funny)
"Black" carries an association with oil and carbon. This is the new, environmentally friendly Reddit, so they say "green" instead -- "green" is associated with clean power and sustainability. It's especially associated with sustainability in the sense of having dollar bills. You know, to pay the bills. Which are usually printed in black ink.
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Generally speaking an accountant is going to be looking at a fiscal year for profitability, although in some cases a quarter can make sense.
Once again showing (Score:1, Interesting)
That Slashdotters have precisely zero business sense. Just like the claims that Reddit will go bankrupt after what they did a few years back. Or the claims that Netflix will lose all its subscribers, or the claims that Meta can't keep spending money on VR, or that Uber will cease to exist, or that Tesla can't afford to make EVs, etc. etc.
Slashdotters are effectively the tech world equivalent of Jim Cramer when it comes to understanding business. They make a lot of noise, and usually the exact opposite of wh
Re:Once again showing (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdotters have precisely zero business sense
Slashdotters haven't had one unified opinion on any of those things, ever.
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I'm assuming 99.998% of those accounts are sock puppets based on the abundance of very high UIDs. There's even tools which automate account registration and comment posting here.
Re: Once again showing (Score:2)
Which word confused you? I was able to parse the entire comment without any trouble.
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Slashdotters haven't had one unified opinion on any of those things, ever.
Well, we're all with you on that.
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No we're not!
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I'm Spartacus!
No, I am!
No, it's me, I'm Spartacus!
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Slashdotters have precisely zero business sense
Slashdotters haven't had one unified opinion on any of those things, ever.
Pretty sure if Slashdot had one member left, he'd still start an argument.
Re: Once again showing (Score:1)
The loudest people here though are all the same person (or at least act like a unitary far-left hive mind) - and their army of bots votes everyone with alternative viewpoints down.
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You don't have to tell me, they mod me down constantly for expressing liberal views and sharing well-established facts about conservatives, crony corporatism...
Or is that not what you meant?
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Yes, it is all Elon's slashdot stalker-bot army who follow you to the ends of the internet to personally give you a bad time. He wrote the code himself and calls it "drinkypoo stalker bot". It's been in beta for 12 years but he'll push the release code right after he sets foot on Mars.
Re: Once again showing (Score:1)
I don't know about Leon but you are definitely stalking me. I didn't mind you making me look smart, though.
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Maybe I am Elon. Have you considered that?
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Slashdotters haven't had one unified opinion on any of those things, ever.
I do!
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Slashdotters haven't had one unified opinion on any of those things, ever.
Well no not a unified opinion, but certainly a popular opinion as demonstrated by moderation and the discussions. And those things I list are definitely the popular opinion. The reality is a large portion of the Slashdot is definitely a form of group think, which is to be expected, the population here are all bent in a certain direction by nature of the content carried by the site. It's just that this population largely doesn't understand businesses very well.
Oh I heard from Slashdot that Spotify dide when
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That Slashdotters have precisely zero business sense. Just like the claims that Reddit will go bankrupt after what they did a few years back.
The claims were mainly that the decisions would impact the creation of new content. It's entirely possible the decisions led to a short-term profit but jeopardized the company's future prospects (assuming it had any...).
Depending on your understanding of "business sense" that might be good or bad: after all many only really care about the short-term profits.
Bingo (Score:3)
It's entirely possible the decisions led to a short-term profit but jeopardized the company's future prospects
The death of a company doesn't have to be sudden and spectacular, like an Enron. Many of them take years or even decades to accomplish, like a Kodak.
Think of Reddit like a company who owned some land with oil beneath it. They weren't an oil company themselves, so one day, they decided to sell their valuable plot of land to an oil company to mine it. Wonderful decision in the moment, because now t
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Don't know if it's lack of business sense or wishful thinking, that these moves in a rational world should face backlash from customers as they are against the best interests of the user base. That a user base would protect their self interests and reward alternatives that treat them better. Perhaps remembering that is pretty much how the tech industry generally played out back in the 80s-90s. The user base was comprised of significantly more particularly invested individuals. Now with that slice of the
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Silicon valley did a great commentary on this with the 'No Revenue'
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> Slashdotters are effectively the tech world equivalent of Jim Cramer when it comes to understanding business
Lol, too true. If I want to know anything about business, especially tech, the opposite of the slashdot gestalt is usually the right answer. Try to provide facts, URLs, logic, history, math or anything else that goes against that narrative and get instantly modded to -1 troll.
Works every time.
So it's still in the hole... (Score:4, Insightful)
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20 years in the red, losing $$, how did it survive ???
The simplest answer is, it probably shouldn’t have.
But one can make that ‘simple” argument about billions in valuation in the market. Snapchat filed in their IPO practically bragging about how they’ve never made money. Was losing 500 million a year. What was the stock market response? A valuation north of 20 billion. Where are they today? Well:
Snapchat has not recorded an annual profit, it made a net loss of $1.3 billion in 2023
And people still wonder why stock market crashes are inevitable.
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Follow the money.
Allegedly intelligence cut-outs filtered through VC's.
In exchange for a surveillance/censorship version of Usenet.
It's just what always happens with centralized services.
Product (Score:3)
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All I got out of reddit were weird porn, bots, permabans for having the wrong opinion, more bots, circlejerks and hidden ads.
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Re: Product (Score:2)
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Rarely has it been more clear that we're the product, not the customer.
Rarely has it been more clear that you don't understand that you are both. You are served by reddit comments, that's why you're there. You're not there because of your innate desire to feed Google's AI algorithm or to read the ads.
The "you are product" meme perpetuates the low IQ all or nothing thinking that fundamentally is the problem in society today. You're one or the other, you need to be labelled, it's impossible for people to comprehend anything beyond a binary assignment.
"Oh but they don't care abou
They only had to sell of the data for AI training (Score:2)
Wonder what will happen when the AI bubble bursts and they find many users and mods are not there anymore.
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So about same as B4 but sell user data ($31M) (Score:1)
They mention advertising growing... sure, it is slightly better than last year but advertising didn't grow that much
The big reason they are profitable is they now have $31 million dollars more from data to train models
A little side-dish of facism for your profit (Score:2)
Here. Have a little side dish of Facism to go with your profit.
https://thefederalist.com/2024... [thefederalist.com]
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Why would the Democrats need to control the narrative on Reddit? Was it too much to the left?
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Due to Reddit's structure, political leanings vary. However, the right generally feels less welcome there since it's right-leaning posters who typically are the ones posting hate speech that threatens the business and get entire subreddits banned. Them and the child porn posters.
The worst of them occasionally move to a more right-friendly site, but they don't have the visibility there and they really want to dominate the popular sites.
Was it worth it? (Score:2)
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did somebody say AI? (Score:2)
Didn't they make a deal with OpenAI this summer?
i noticed an uptick in reddit clickbait (Score:2)
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Reddit has always been about navigating a system of laws. And as nearly everyone has learned the hard way, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
At the same time, the site covers a wide range of topics in sufficient depth to have attracted millions of users. They're doing something right. Even if you and I think it's a pretty shoddy way to run a community.
That said, the closure of a few other forums I use is starting to push me into the direction of starting my own. But I also kind of want to wait until I first
More AI foolishness .... (Score:2)
I mean - great deal for Reddit, but paying them to train AI off their message posts? Ooof.... that's a scary thought!
Seriously, I find specific subreddits VERY useful for getting current information on tech topics, and others handy for specific "how to" knowledge. (EG. You want to know what is working best to eradicate termites in a certain region or what deck/porch paints are holding up the best in icy winter weather? The right Reddit groups have your answers.) But you almost can't follow a single messag
Shilling for Lemmy (Score:2)
I'm here to shill for https://lemmy.world/ [lemmy.world] again. It's pretty great, you should check it out. It's defederated Reddit, I left when Reddit broke my mobile app with their API nonsense. Lemmy is filled with Linux users and a much higher signal to noise ratio since it's not the Mcdonalds of social media. It's easy to use and being a little less popular means you don't doom scroll all day on it :)