Canada Bans TikTok Citing National Security Concerns (www.cbc.ca) 86
The federal government of Canada has ordered TikTok to shut down its operations in the country, citing national security concerns. However, Canadians will still be able to access the app and use it to create content. "The decision to use a social media application or platform is a personal choice," said Innovation Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne.
"We came to the conclusion that these activities that were conducted in Canada by TikTok and their offices would be injurious to national security. I'm not at liberty to go into much detail, but I know Canadians would understand when you're saying the government of Canada is taking measures to protect national security, that's serious." CBC News reports: Champagne urged Canadians to use TikTok "with eyes wide open." Critics have claimed that TikTok users' data could be obtained by the Chinese government. "Obviously, parents and anyone who wants to use social platform should be mindful of the risk," he said. The decision was made in accordance with the Investment Canada Act, which allows for the review of foreign investments that may harm Canada's national security.
Former CSIS director David Vigneault told CBC News it's "very clear" from the app's design that data gleaned from its users "is available to the government of China" and its large-scale data harvesting goals. "Most people can say, 'Why is it a big deal for a teenager now to have their data [on TikTok]?' Well in five years, in 10 years, that teenager will be a young adult, will be engaged in different activities around the world," he said at the time. "As an individual, I would say that I would absolutely not recommend someone have TikTok."
"We came to the conclusion that these activities that were conducted in Canada by TikTok and their offices would be injurious to national security. I'm not at liberty to go into much detail, but I know Canadians would understand when you're saying the government of Canada is taking measures to protect national security, that's serious." CBC News reports: Champagne urged Canadians to use TikTok "with eyes wide open." Critics have claimed that TikTok users' data could be obtained by the Chinese government. "Obviously, parents and anyone who wants to use social platform should be mindful of the risk," he said. The decision was made in accordance with the Investment Canada Act, which allows for the review of foreign investments that may harm Canada's national security.
Former CSIS director David Vigneault told CBC News it's "very clear" from the app's design that data gleaned from its users "is available to the government of China" and its large-scale data harvesting goals. "Most people can say, 'Why is it a big deal for a teenager now to have their data [on TikTok]?' Well in five years, in 10 years, that teenager will be a young adult, will be engaged in different activities around the world," he said at the time. "As an individual, I would say that I would absolutely not recommend someone have TikTok."
Re:I'd rather my data go to the Chinese government (Score:5, Informative)
Given the recent example of India assassinating someone in Canada, I think China can reach you.
Free speech or maybe (Score:2)
Seems to be a trend of the governments of countries curtailing social media use to slow down or prevent the flow of information.
India banned tiktoc some time ago.
And Canada has used alternative means to influence public discourse https://www.bbc.com/news/world... [bbc.com] such as by executive decree (no court hearing or court case) debanking people by closing their financial accounts if they protest.
A slippery slope since one prime minister's opinion of 'needs to be banned' free speech would not necessarily be the s
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You're absolutely right, if we just ignore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org], their other intelligence and cyberwarfare activities, genocide of Uyghurs (after Tibetans), enabling Russia's aggression...
The US and Israel targeting known international terrorists is absolutely mild in comparison.
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There is no genocide.
You are an idiot.
Uyghurs have their own autonomous reigned territory.
Uyghurs have their own autonomous government.
Uyghurs have their own autonomous military, albeit integrated into the Chinese main forces.
Uyghurs have their own autonomous laws, courts, judges, police.
Uyghurs have their own autonomous schools, language(s), religion, culture.
Since decades, Chinas rulers are proclaiming China as "the land of thousand cultures".
It is encouraged to keep your own culture, language, believes a
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Uyghurs have their own autonomous reigned territory.
That is misleading.
There is a province in China called the "Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region", but it is governed and controlled by Han Chinese, not Uyghurs.
The current chairman of Xinjiang is ethnically Uyghur but widely seen as a CCP puppet.
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"Widely seen" is some weasel wordy shit. You acknowledge the entirely real fact that the head of state for the region is Uygur(because that's required by Chinese national law). Use active voice, tell us who says that.
Also "Chairman" is a uselessly unspecific term because that's the standard title for lots of kinds of leadership positions in China. Do you mean the government chairman, which is roughly equivalent to governor? Do you mean CPCC chairman, who represents the party's interest in the region? Do
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Forgive him.
ShaghaiBill once was in China.
And now he thinks he is an expert about China.
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LOL, except they never have done anything like that. Meanwhile USA has. Russia has. Israel has. India has. etc.. etc.. etc...
China has illegal "police stations" in Canada. They are not our friends, and Winnie the Pooh can go fuck himself.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politi... [www.cbc.ca]
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Except they aren't even close to "police stations". That's why you put "police stations" in quotations.
Yes, they are not legitimate police stations. In fact they have no legitimate reason to exist at all, that is why we are shutting them down.
Again... something else entirely different from ASSASSINATION attempts.
Feel free to imagine your shithole dictatorship is somehow better than others. I hope it brings you comfort.
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They're used to police Chinese citizens in foreign countries.
The CCP believe their laws apply to their (ex-)citizens no matter what country they're in.
Did you know the word police is a verb as well as a noun?
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Justin Trudeau is the reason that every American should ignore Canadians says anything hyperbolic about Trump.
The Canadian Government is Lost. (Score:1, Flamebait)
It can't handle anti-government sentiment (see also: trucker protest in Ottawa.)
It can't handle basic criticism.
It can't handle life, basically.
Re:The Canadian Government is Lost. (Score:4, Insightful)
>It can't handle free speech. (See also: recent laws compelling pronouns.)
Lie. C-16 does not criminalize using something other than someone's preferred pronoun. It might just recognize it as part of a pattern indicating you're a prejudiced asshole behaving in a discriminatory manner towards someone, though.
>It can't handle anti-government sentiment (see also: trucker protest in Ottawa.)
Another lie. The 'trucker protest' in Ottawa was a bunch of barely-functional malcontents with outside funding who took over a section of the capital, wouldn't let anyone sleep (constant horn honking), and even tried to set an apartment building on fire. Honestly, they were a great advertisement for the return of the death penalty. Or eugenics.
>It can't handle basic criticism.
Vague, but obviously a third lie. The government gets criticized all the time.
The fact that you're too stupid to understand what's going on or have a meaningful opinion and can barely manage to put someone else's 'Fuck Trudeau' sticker on your pickup truck doesn't mean the government can't handle criticism. It means you're too stupid to understand what's going on around you and you're angry and confused and have mistaken that for a valid political opinion.
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Thanks for proving the poster's point.
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Something like 90% of truckers in Canada had been vaccinated at that time and were not at that protest. The ones that DID show up are the 'barely functional malcontents'.
Their issue was that they didn't want to get vaccinated, and they were complaining that Canada wouldn't let them back into the country if they weren't. Well, huge problem: at the time, the USA wouldn't have let them IN if they weren't. It was a non-problem. Even if Canadian policy had been different, they still wouldn't have been able to do
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As I said, you're too stupid to accept the truth. And probably feeling your oats because your 'brothers' in the US just won big.
It doesn't matter, you're still losing, it's just going to take a bit longer for you to figure out that everything you're doing is just making things worse while the people you worship as heroes make out like bandits off your backs. Or maybe you'll never figure it out and keep blaming 'the left' for the rest of your life.
Re:The Canadian Government is Lost. (Score:4, Informative)
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Someone might catch Justin Trudeau wearing blackface.
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A pattern of doing fucked up shit is a pattern: https://globalnews.ca/news/393... [globalnews.ca]
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Here's the money shot. (Score:3)
Well in five years, in 10 years, that teenager will be a young adult, will be engaged in different activities around the world
Imagine China knowing pretty much everything there is to know about via use of AI because of stuff you did when you were a teenager. Yeah, PRISM [wikipedia.org] allows the U.S. to do the same thing, but we're hoping they're only doing it for "national security".
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I am confident the on-going, wholesale rape of personal data will continue unabated, with the only variables being who's collecting it, and who's buying what they collect. Mostly it's just used for selling you stuff. Very few people are worth the risk and expense of having their personal data used for actual coercion. Unfortunately, whatever circumstances make the risk worthwhile will likely ensure the few rare victims are in a position to do real damage.
"Let them track me. I'm not interesting enough to
In 10 years a 28 year old adult programmer will... (Score:2)
If security matters... (Score:5, Insightful)
Ban foreign investment in residential property.
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I guess what I am saying is corporate home-buying companies and flippers should be illegal - residential should be for homeowners only, not some corporate equity exploit driving up prices.
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Ban foreign investment in residential property.
Why? There is too much profit. Security concerns go out the window when money comes into play. When the free candy van drives around, all children are in danger. They just can't help themselves.
No shit. The West needs to tighten up. (Score:1)
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It will be interesting to see if Trump remembers that he flip-flopped on TikTok. The ban had bipartisan support, so I'll bet undoing the ban will be a campaign promise that is quietly forgotten.
The issue is persuasion not data (Score:3)
The data issue is a side show.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/e... [forbes.com]
These sources reveal that in addition to letting the algorithm decide what goes viral, staff at TikTok and ByteDance also secretly hand-pick specific videos and supercharge their distribution, using a practice known internally as “heating.”
They can similarly minimize the reach of certain topics.
This was done to rile up college kids against Israel's self defense operations in Gaza. We saw the protests
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I think their outrage had a lot more to do with the fact that the far right Israeli government is slaughtering women and children in Gaza. I'm sure they manage to kill a terrorist or two every now and then, but mostly the Israelis are just murdering civilians.
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Not that it makes leveling entire neighborhoods right, but imagine how the average Israeli feels about having terrorists moving freely about on the other side of a border constantly launching rockets at them.
At some point, they're going to hit back if they have the capability to do so, and they absolutely do. There's no winning scenario. Gaza and the West Bank exist because Israel bowed to world pressure after the events of '67 in a world climate that was probably less accepting of conquering land in the
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Then maybe, just MAYBE they should try using those special forces they always bragged about
They did on June 8 2024 during the Nuseirat rescue operation where they rescued 4 hostages who were being held in residential homes owned by people paid by Hamas to keep them. Presumably so they are kept as close to the densely populated civilian areas as possible.
People STILL condemned the show of force.
They did similar in Lebanon with the pager attack. A highly surgical and strategic strike that directly targeted members of Hezbollah and had far less collateral damage than an air strike or a ground assaul
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The problem isn't just "sensitivity" to occupying territory. It's specifically a no-no under the Geneva Conventions. And the Israeli occupation has been brutal...guaranteed to produce a resistance (AKA terrorists, if you're on the other side). A girl I knew toured the Middle East back in the early 1980s. The casual brutality of Israeli soldiers she saw appalled her. One example: walking down a main street in Tel Aviv, she and her friend are approached by two Israeli soldiers clearly interested in pick
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Brutality breeds brutality. If you had a neighbor taking shots at your family every day, how long do you think you'd last before you started thinking of them as a subhuman who needed to be put down?
It's amazing there's anyone in Israel against genocide at this point. And it doesn't matter that the other side feels the same way and whether or not they are justified. This is just basic human response to one group trying to kill another.
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For a lot of Palestinians, it's simpler than that: quit occupying our territory. By that, I don't mean Israel itself. That's a whole different argument. I mean land that Israel has illegally seized outside of its boundaries. If you compare the body count, it's so lop-sided at this point any possible "self defense" excuse is long gone. And then, of course, there's the matter of Netanyahu's Likud Party actually funding Hamas in order to keep the excuse alive. That's a matter of public record, not some
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This was done to rile up college kids against Israel's self defense operations in Gaza. We saw the protests
Let's dig a bit deeper into this. Is Tiktok itself promoting anti Israel videos, or a third party? What is to be gained from eroding support for Israel?
This is one of the rare occasions where each side is equally shitty. I want Hamas to stop doing terrorist shit and at the same time I want Israel to stay on their side of the fence and stop blowing up brown people. The small government fiscal conservatives sure do clam up when Israel is mentioned. We sent Israel $17.9 BILLION in the last year alone. https:// [apnews.com]
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What agenda and who is pushing it?
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What agenda and who is pushing it?
The agenda is to divide our people and foment unrest in our lands. Who is pushing it is the governments who would like to see our nation weakened.
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This was done to rile up college kids against Israel's self defense operations in Gaza. We saw the protests
Let's dig a bit deeper into this. Is Tiktok itself promoting anti Israel videos, or a third party? What is to be gained from eroding support for Israel?
In answer to your queries: (1) Tiktok itself (at the control of the CCP) and (2) Why would China want to diminish support (internationally and in the US itself) of the main ally of the US (and implicitly the other western powers) in the middle eastern region? Gee I don't know! China is everyone's friend!
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Viral is by likes.
How should the company make something intentionally viral.
And what would be the purpose?
It is only work for them, with no gain.
They serve videos to consumers/users.
Does not damn matter cost wise what video they stream.
And does not damn matter income wise what video they stream.
Re:The issue is persuasion not data (Score:4, Insightful)
Viral is by likes.
Unless someone is putting their thumb on the scale
How should the company make something intentionally viral.
By pushing it into more peoples feeds.
And what would be the purpose?
Money / influence / power
It is only work for them, with no gain.
They serve videos to consumers/users.
Does not damn matter cost wise what video they stream. And does not damn matter income wise what video they stream.
Advertiser can pay for the correct video to go viral
Advertiser can pay protection money to prevent the wrong video going viral
"Advertiser" can even be a government doing the above.
That's just the nice clean versions
"Nice image your company has, be a shame if something were to happen to it"
"we know X about you, would be a shame if it got out wouldn't it"
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Advertizement on TikTok is clearly marked as advertizement.
And otherwise, it is completely clear who the owner of the context is: as you have to follow him to see it.
You get random content sometimes, but there is also completely clear from whom it is.
An advertizer is not paying anyone to make a video go viral. What would be the point? He wants his own advertizement displayed and not one of my videos go viral.
Perhaps you should make a TikTok account instead of writing nonsense about a platform you obviously
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Advertizement on TikTok is clearly marked as advertizement.
Trivial to change. Or just lie
And otherwise, it is completely clear who the owner of the context is: as you have to follow him to see it.
Trivial to change. Or just lie
You get random content sometimes, but there is also completely clear from whom it is.
Trivial to change. Or just lie
An advertizer is not paying anyone to make a video go viral. What would be the point?
Um advertising obviously...
He wants his own advertizement displayed and no
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You just proved, you know nothing about TikTok.
What about Facebook? You ever been there?
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Not sure how you jumped to that conclusion.
I've seen enough of it close up to know I'm not interested in it.
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I did not jump to a conclusion.
I asked a question.
If you never used TikTok, you do not qualify to criticize it.
Empty gesture with no way to enforce (Score:1)
So force user data to be sent directly abroad? (Score:2)
Now ban the rest (Score:2)
Or at least hold them to a standard where they are responsible for removing misinformation, foreign interference / bots, unlabelled ads, racism / hate, etc., public disclosure of their efforts, free access to researchers to monitor their efforts, and on the receiving end of large fines for non-compliance.