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AMD's Desktop PC Market Share Skyrockets Amid Intel's Raptor Lake CPU Crashing Scandal (tomshardware.com) 16

An anonymous reader shares a report: AMD has gained a substantial 5.7 percentage points of share of the desktop x86 CPU market in the third quarter compared to Q2, the largest quarterly share gain since we began tracking the market share reports in 2016. It also represents an incredible ten percentage point improvement over the prior year. AMD also raked in a strong increase in revenue share, jumping 8.5 percentage points over the prior quarter, indicating that it is selling a strong mix of higher-end CPU models.

During the quarter, AMD launched its new Ryzen 9000-series family of processors amid a scandal related to stability issues with Intel's Raptor Lake chips, which generated a flood of negative press for the company over the course of several months, and inventory adjustments for one of Intel's customers. AMD now commands 28.7% of the desktop processor market. AMD also continued to gain share in the laptop and server markets, though its gains on the desktop side of the business were the most impressive, according to Mercury Research.

AMD's Desktop PC Market Share Skyrockets Amid Intel's Raptor Lake CPU Crashing Scandal

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  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Friday November 08, 2024 @09:58AM (#64930501) Journal

    it would simplify the bankruptcy paperwork.

    Bucking Feancounters!

  • It's still a bit unclear if the latest patches have actually solved the issues that Intel have had with their processors.

    • Let's say for a second that they have, they finally figured out they were the problem and solved it with a microcode update that stopped the chip from using too much power and cooking itself.

      They still aren't replacing affected models except if they fail during warranty, so they have destroyed their used value. And you can't count on the existing chips not to have degraded sufficiently that they will fail shortly out of warranty, so now people who bought two generations of Intel CPU not only can't trust their own PC, but they also can't feel smug about it so they won't be going free advertising for Intel at least until they replace it.

      When you add to that the fact that AMD now has the fastest CPU in every class... Investors have to be wondering whether they need to pull out now before it gets worse.

    • There were some reports of a manufacturing defect causing oxidation in the CPUs. I didn't follow that too closely, but that wouldn't be fixable. Also any hardware degradation caused by running at excessive voltages would also be permanent. A patch might be able to to keep the CPU from running at settings that would cause further problems, but the hardware is already permanently crippled at that point.

      They're not pushing their newest CPUs anywhere near as hard so it shouldn't be an issue going forward.
    • Their full explanation on what was happening sounds legitimate. Basically an algorithm was dumping too much voltage to idled CPU cores in very specific scenarios. The explanation in latest microcode fix sounds plausible that it would prevent this from happening in the future. Any chips fried from this happening already aren't repairable, though, Intel will replace them under warranty that they just extended for another year.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        Modern processors are highly complex beasts. So complex, you cannot boot them alone. You may have heard of Intel Management Engine, and AMD has an equivalent. This is a management CPU, a lightwieght processor. This processor boots up and manages the main processor - particularly in things like power management and frequency scaling.

        There are parameters burned into every processor that identify it - what each core's max speed is, various power modes and even the "golden core" - the one processor core that pe

  • It's several years I haven't looked at an AMD powered computer but in the day they had a reputation of not being energy efficient, sure a thing when you mainly run a laptop, how is that energy efficiency this days?
    • by qbast ( 1265706 )
      Zen 5: pretty damn good.
    • by Z00L00K ( 682162 ) on Friday November 08, 2024 @10:27AM (#64930597) Homepage Journal

      AMD seems to be fine on energy efficiency too: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/p... [cpubenchmark.net]

    • by Narcocide ( 102829 ) on Friday November 08, 2024 @11:46AM (#64930817) Homepage

      Basically, the truth is that the recent era of Intel chips that were known for being so much more efficient than the corresponding AMD offerings only managed to accomplish that by fudging benchmarks and sabotaging the their official compiler used for all Windows software - a fact they were sued for in court and lost, twice. Despite this, Intel fanboys have been loyally astroturfing over those facts for decades, so it hasn't been common knowledge amongst consumers. For Linux users, who by and large never used Intel's compiler in the first place, this truth has been apparent all along though. As Linux gained ground in the gaming arena, Intel was pressured to show real results, and the outcome is this; they can't compete with AMD on fair terms without a bunch of illegal monopoly-supporting misinformation and criminal activity backing it up, and when they tried they just fry their own chips. Make no mistake about it, something running that fast is gonna generate heat and guzzle electricity. Those are the laws of physics.

    • by _merlin ( 160982 )

      AMD CPUs are currently more energy efficient than Intel CPUs. Intel has been slipping badly across the board - efficiency has dropped for the last few generations.

  • by zkiwi34 ( 974563 ) on Friday November 08, 2024 @10:46AM (#64930631)
    Intel should fix their processors, and offer replacements and installation for free. Nah, that's crazy talk.
  • Good news. I guess having Jim Keller design your architecture really helps. Yes, the same guy who helped Apple with their ARM designs, and then Tesla with theirs. Now if only there was a GPU "Jim Keller" that could hop from company to company and ignite such developments to challenge Nvidia, that would be just great for everybody.

  • by MpVpRb ( 1423381 ) on Friday November 08, 2024 @11:32AM (#64930777)

    Investors demand endless growth.
    Once great companies always degrade when they get too big.
    Once great independent companies degrade when they are acquired.
    The degradation continues until failure.
    New companies rise to take their place, but they are bound by the same insane logic.

    Start small, get good, get great, keep trying to grow beyond what's reasonable, rot, decay, bankruptcy, rinse, repeat

    The system is broken

    • Eventual decline isn't particularly because of the expectation of growth. Stagnant, ossified enterprises of fixed size, such as the power company, aren't any better.

      It's true that nothing lasts forever. Not plants, animals, or businesses. A young and hungry upstart simply cannot maintain that mentality forever once it is stable and successful. Even the people who join a startup are not the people who seek employment at big, stable companies where you can just turn the crank and get a steady paycheck.

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