OpenAI Considers Taking on Google With Browser (theinformation.com) 38
An anonymous reader shares a report: OpenAI is preparing to launch a frontal assault on Google. The ChatGPT owner recently considered developing a web browser that it would combine with its chatbot, and it has separately discussed or struck deals to power search features for travel, food, real estate and retail websites, according to people who have seen prototypes or designs of the products.
OpenAI has spoken about the search product with website and app developers such as Conde Nast, Redfin, Eventbrite and Priceline, these people said. OpenAI also has discussed powering artificial intelligence features on devices made by Samsung, a key Google business partner, similar to a deal OpenAI recently struck with Apple, according to people who were briefed about the situation at OpenAI.
OpenAI has spoken about the search product with website and app developers such as Conde Nast, Redfin, Eventbrite and Priceline, these people said. OpenAI also has discussed powering artificial intelligence features on devices made by Samsung, a key Google business partner, similar to a deal OpenAI recently struck with Apple, according to people who were briefed about the situation at OpenAI.
Good! (Score:3, Interesting)
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If they are smart they will base it on Chromium and not rewrite the entire browser core. This shows how misguided the FTC is with wanting Google to sell Chrome. The browser itself is not valuable due to Chromium being open source, the value is in the cloud services attached to it.
Maybe the FTC does make Google sell Chrome. But if they do that Chrome isn't going the be attached to Google services anymore and that raises huge 'trust' issues. Are you going to trust whoever it gets sold to with all of your Inte
the irony (Score:1)
If OpenAI is smart (Score:3)
If OpenAI is smart, and I don't think they are from a business point of view, they'll stay in their lane as a services provider. The browser wars are over, for better or worse. There's little upside to developing their own.
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If OpenAI is smart, and I don't think they are from a business point of view, they'll stay in their lane as a services provider. The browser wars are over, for better or worse. There's little upside to developing their own.
But what would you think about OpenAI's idea if they chose to build on top of the FireFox browser, just like all other browser devs use Google Chrome now?
And FWIW, Isn't the name OpenAI really a misnomer?
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But what would you think about OpenAI's idea if they chose to build on top of the FireFox browser
It doesn't matter. A browser is just a window to the Internet. Content is king. It's what's in the windows that matters, not the tool you use to view it.
OpenAI is succumbing to hubris-induced mission creep.
And FWIW, Isn't the name OpenAI really a misnomer?
Yes, but the original intent was to actually be open.
OpenAI only closed up when potential profit became too much. It was a controversial move.
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I think it's widely understood that Open means "We're not evil so it's ok to give us all your money.... oh wait, we changed our mind but still give us the monaaay"
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The upside is clear. What an AI company needs is real-world data. And Google has already gotten people used to the idea that their browser slurps up everything for corporate use.
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If OpenAI is smart, and I don't think they are from a business point of view, they'll stay in their lane as a services provider. The browser wars are over, for better or worse. There's little upside to developing their own.
While what you say is pretty much fact, think of it from OpenAI's perspective. If they can have a foothold in the browser space, that's a TREASURE TROVE of training data just waiting to be tapped. Because, let's be completely honest here, OpenAI's main purpose is data aggregation, and that will remain true for the foreseeable future. They want a direct tap to that data, rather than relying on other methods. And there's no better tap than a browser. A browser that's 100% guaranteed to make the data-suck that
"developing?" or just lazily stealing data? (Score:2)
I see 2 outcomes:
1. Deliver on the hype: Open AI engineers, w
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"Also, due to our Strategic Legal Partnership, if you get food poisoning anywhere the concept Disney, you can't sue.
Re: If OpenAI is smart (Score:1)
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Also, to capture mindshare with a new search paridigm. People seem to love and trust new technology, so get our Brand New Browser!
Don't use last year's embarrassing technology, use OPEN Browser NOW!
Always, always try to capture your audience and do everything possible from them using anything else. It's how tech is done these days.
I can only imagine (Score:3, Informative)
...how awful it would be
Ads, ads, ads, ads, AI training, all product recommendations go to Amazon, no negative reviews, ads, ads, ads, ads.........
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Three browsers stories in a row (Score:3)
What for? (Score:5, Informative)
I already replace Google with ChatGPT, it's way easier, like the example below:
"Can you give me a few Amazon links for the thingies at the top of ceiling lamps that hide the cable connections and also tell me what they are called?"
ChatGPT said:
The component at the top of ceiling lamps that conceals cable connections is called a ceiling canopy or ceiling rose. These fixtures are designed to hide wiring and mounting hardware while providing a clean, finished look.
Here are some examples:
Canomo 5 1/8 Inches Ceiling Lighting Canopy Kit, available at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M... [amazon.com]
2-Port White Ceiling Canopy with Nylon Cord Grips, available at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08H... [amazon.com]
Urbanest 5-Foot Chandelier Chain Cord Cover, available at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081... [amazon.com]
These items are suitable for various light fixture setups and can enhance the aesthetics of your ceiling-mounted lights. Let me know if you need additional help!
And no advertisement. I would have had to do some research first to know what the thingies are called.
Try the same text in Google and you get crap and ads.
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"And no advertisement. " ... yet? What's their business plan?
BTW chromium speller must have been switched to AI as often now I get "what most probable word given context" often resulting in antonyms. So thanks Google but no thanks!
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Curious, I get:
Did chatgpt recommend that? (Score:2)
Eat your own dog food! (Score:3)
Will they use their AI to write their browser?
That's the test (Score:2)
Were all this garbage really "intelligence" that could be trained on anything, it would be able to write ALL the code for an entire bug-free operating system AND a bug-free web browser without using ANY code written by any human. Nobody would need to employ a vast army of programmers all across tech world to write Android, or Windows, or Chrome, or any other software. We could just junk all legacy software and somebody could describe a PC and a Web browser to an AI, give it the technical details (PC schemat
Bring back the good ol' days of Netscape (Score:2)
... and it has separately discussed or struck deals to power search features for travel, food, real estate and retail websites ...
Back around 1995, I bought a book called "Websites that Suck" or something to that effect. It was about how to make a good website, with plenty of examples of ones that sucked, to illustrate the contrary point.
This was the era of first important browser NCSA Mosaic (1993) then Netscape (1995). The internet was largely unknown to most people outside the universities that were using it, and Netscape is what opened up the internet to average people using the graphical hypertext WWW via a browser. The autho
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I'm old enough to remember those days, reading and posting to usenet in the 1980s, and the myriad computer BBSes that were around. Maybe it's because of the habits I developed then, but I feel I can get around on the web doing my thing and avoiding the worst of the commercialism. I disregard ads on youtube the same way I disregarded them on broadcast TV in the days when all you had was ABC, CBS, NBC and maybe a few UHF and Educational TV stations.
I do miss the old Usenet though, with the free give and tak
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Thanks for the reply.
Usenet was the best.
My personal interests kept me on groups where people were polite and cooperative, so I rarely experienced any flame wars.
The whole way messages were organized and listed was better than any of the modern web blog and WordPress style sites.
Even Slashdot pages, while okay, are not as easy to navigate as newsgroups in a news browser.
Oh well, times change.
Frontal assault on Google by hiney (Score:2)
I bet this OpenAI browser will be yet another variant of Chromium.
As long as your browser's guts are made by Google, Google wins.
So..... (Score:2)
A search engine that gives confidently wrong answers - built into a bad browser ...
Core competencies (Score:2)
OpenAI is good at one thing: LLM development. If they venture into the browser wars, they will either 1) do it cheaply and poorly, or 2) spend a ton of money that they should be devoting to improving their core product. I personally enjoy using ChatGPT, and I hope it doesn't end up having resources diverted to other things. LLM is still very immature, it's going to continue to take a long time to fully develop the technology.
Re: Core competencies (Score:2)
while......blocking some other browser's development.....
And so it begins (Score:2)
How long until they're offering to handle your email?
Re: And so it begins (Score:2)
.....and build your browser and be done with it, fork libc and be done with it, fork chromium and be done with it. Who knew AI is a device manager for IIS.
Yay (Score:2)
Yay! Just what the world needs, yet ANOTHER chrom* browser, and then packed with AI as a "bonus."
Hard pass. Will stick with Firefox.
Super AI (Score:2)