China Woos Western Tech Talent in Race for Chip Supremacy (msn.com) 50
Chinese companies are aggressively recruiting foreign tech talent as a key strategy to gain technological supremacy, prompting national security concerns across Western nations and Asia, WSJ reported Wednesday, citing multiple intelligence officials and corporate sources. The campaign focuses particularly on advanced semiconductor expertise, with companies like Huawei offering triple salaries to employees at critical firms like Zeiss SMT and ASML, which produce essential components for cutting-edge chip manufacturing.
These recruitment efforts intensified after Western export controls restricted China's access to advanced technology. While Taiwan and South Korea have implemented strict countermeasures, including criminal penalties for illegal talent transfers, the U.S. and Europe struggle to balance open labor markets with national security concerns.
Chinese firms often obscure their origins through local ventures and persistent recruitment tactics. The strategy has shown results: Former employees have helped Chinese companies advance their technological capabilities, including SMIC's development of 7nm chips with help from ex-TSMC talent.
These recruitment efforts intensified after Western export controls restricted China's access to advanced technology. While Taiwan and South Korea have implemented strict countermeasures, including criminal penalties for illegal talent transfers, the U.S. and Europe struggle to balance open labor markets with national security concerns.
Chinese firms often obscure their origins through local ventures and persistent recruitment tactics. The strategy has shown results: Former employees have helped Chinese companies advance their technological capabilities, including SMIC's development of 7nm chips with help from ex-TSMC talent.
"national security" my arse! (Score:1, Flamebait)
What a load of balderdash. It's just a tactic to keep China from progressing and overtaking the USA. Nothing more.
The USA is pathetically insecure these days.
The Chinese will figure it out. Heck, in the case of TSMC, they already did.
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TSMC needs ASML equipment for its cutting-edge chip tech, correct.
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That is about 90% correct. The missing 10% is that ASML is a multinational corporation, with offices in sixteen countries, and technical employees living in even more nations than that. The equipment is AFAIK built in the Netherlands, but its design is internationally sourced.
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Indeed. I am surprised they are surprised.
Re:"national security" my arse! (Score:4, Informative)
Re:"national security" my arse! (Score:4, Interesting)
China does not keep foreign citizens as hostages.
Yes, they do.
Detention of Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig [wikipedia.org]
Re: "national security" my arse! (Score:2)
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People go to Dubai for work, with it's religious laws and zealous enforcement.
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and that is what this is, "national security" is just an obvious pretext
Correct.
Indeed. Protectionism is usually the last stage before the ones doing it lose.
That's just flatly incorrect, historically speaking.
That said, unless the West wants to lose all moral superiority
Agreed.
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"unless the West wants to lose all moral superiority"
over CHINA??
Western nations may be very far from angelic but that's setting the bar in the basement
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These days I'm struggling to find areas where we are clearly morally superior. We have been complicit in genocide, LGBTQ rights are under attack, not nearly enough is being done about climate change.
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The US is most definitely not the first nation to put trade restrictions in place to protect sensitive technology. I know the Brits were doing similar well over a century ago. It's hardly something that makes a nation "pathetic".
Re: "national security" my arse! (Score:1)
Excuse me, please report to your nearest NATO Information Center for your Correct Think (tm), citizen! You appear to be experiencing Bad Think. We can help!
3x is not enough (Score:2)
You're part of the problem (Score:1)
Re: You're part of the problem (Score:1)
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What about WfH? I'd take Chinese money while living under Canadian law. I send them enough Canadian money for all the stuff I buy, it'd be nice to work on addressing the trade imbalance.
Obviously if I were top-tier engineering talent I'd have to worry about national security, but there's plenty of work they might want done that doesn't have to approach those lines.
Low pay in Eu (Score:2)
Great, let the global market sort out the actual value of engineers, who generate those $B for these companies. Europe, where ASML/Zeiss are headquartered, has ridiculously low engineering pay; US is already 3x for many of these roles. Laughable that an entry level engineer at these companies make what a McDonalds manager does in the US.
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Does that apply to engineers as well?
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The economy of said country is heavily slanted toward "existing while rich".
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https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opin... [lemonde.fr]
I get it, if you base everything on whiny articles and reddit posts you would
Hmm, maybe they'd be interested ... (Score:2)
... in this guy. [slashdot.org]
American Elite's Failure (Score:1)
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ASML and Zeiss aren't American companies.
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U wot m8
Since when is all their IP licensed from American institutions? News to me.
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All EUV tech in the world is.
EUV LLC owns it, which is the corp spun up to hold the IP rights for the stuff the DOE funded US laboratories to invent.
They licensed it 2 to players, ASML ended up buying one, so now ASML is the sole licensee (and manufacturer) of EUV equipment.
Paying the door-welding premium (Score:3, Interesting)
Time was, young talent would be going to China because it was easy money and sort of a wild-west for oddball ideas.
I went to Shanghai about 10 years ago to visit and the architecture of the new construction rising above the commie-blocks looked like a design student's orgasm. Clearly someone somewhere always wanted to build a 100-storey skyscraper in the Greek classical style, but only in the China boom days did they get the chance.
Maybe the repression from the CCP could have been tolerated even to now had it stayed within the normal parameters. But then they started welding people into their houses, and that was too much even for the crowd that grew up with stories of the cultural revolution and the red guards.
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Pretty much everyone screwed up the COVID response, so pick your poison. There are a lot of people here with long COVID.
None of which really factors into most people's calculations. Big salaries, enough to retire on after a few years doing it, that's what they consider. The opportunity to build stuff from scratch, to command big budgets with no worry that some MBA will see an opportunity for a quarterly bonus and screw it all up.
China is relatively free and liberal compared to places like Dubai, and they ha
James Bond (Score:3)
Re: NDA fraud? (Score:2)
This is the society we are (Score:2)
To live in modern society requires a certain amount of wealth.
The more wealth you have, the easier your life becomes. Beyond a certain point
enough wealth frees you from the day to day grind of obtaining it and allows you
to pursue a life that is worth living, not one spent forever grinding the treadmill of
employment making scraps while your employer reaps the big payout.
It then comes as no surprise that all China has to do is outbid Western corporations
when it comes to talent acquisition and they will get it