'Everything I Say Leaks,' Zuckerberg Says in Leaked Meeting Audio (404media.co) 83
At an all hands meeting inside Meta Thursday, the company's co-founder and chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said he was increasingly careful about what he says internally at Meta. From a report: "Everything I say leaks. And it sucks, right?," Zuckerberg said. Meta made changes to the question-and-answer section of the company all hands meeting because of the leaks, Zuckerberg said, according to meeting audio obtained by 404 Media. "I want to be able to be able to talk about stuff openly, but I am also trying to like, well, we're trying to build stuff and create value in the world, not destroy value by talking about stuff that inevitably leaks," he said.
So rather than take direct questions, the company used a "poll" system, where questions asked beforehand were voted on so that "main themes" of questions were addressed. "There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I'm not going to talk about those. But I think it'll be good. You all can give us feedback later," he added. "Maybe it's just the nature of running a company at scale, but it's a little bit of a bummer."
So rather than take direct questions, the company used a "poll" system, where questions asked beforehand were voted on so that "main themes" of questions were addressed. "There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I'm not going to talk about those. But I think it'll be good. You all can give us feedback later," he added. "Maybe it's just the nature of running a company at scale, but it's a little bit of a bummer."
Zuck clearly gets the point... (Score:5, Insightful)
There are plenty of people who build stuff for which the public gets more hyped with each little scrap of dubiously sourced information that comes out. If the opposite is true in your case you have a stuff you build problem; not a leak problem.
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If you're being generous and don't view Facebook as a blight from the moment it appeared, every dime of actual value Zuck ever created is still a decade in the past.
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When monetary hoarding at the cost of ethical failure is seen as success, I'll pass, thanks.
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But that has been the metric of American success since a pack of rich white men got pissed off that the King and Parliament actually had the audacity to suggest that they pay at least some of the cost of their defense.
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losers are losers, no matter how much money they have, indeed, they more wealth they steal, they more unsuccessful they become on a moral level
if becoming more evil is seen as success, we have some real winners
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They won because France helped them. They would have been crushed otherwise.
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You're forgetting that when zuck says "creating value in the world" he's talking about people being used as zombies. So his dilemma is his own creation and the results of it not being what he thought it should have been, all the while, he's finger-pointing his way out of it all.
Re:Zuck clearly gets the point... (Score:4, Insightful)
If these upper class people were being ethical, they would not have to be secretive in the first place.
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I am not saying I like the guy, never met him personally and only thing I cheer for him is keeping the Oculus
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I realize I'm not a legless metaverse innovator; but might I humbly suggest that your work in creating value in the world is...not on the right track...if the response to even fragmentary rumors of it is the destruction of value? There are plenty of people who build stuff for which the public gets more hyped with each little scrap of dubiously sourced information that comes out. If the opposite is true in your case you have a stuff you build problem; not a leak problem.
But, if we look at it from Zuck's perspective--I know, shower after--he doesn't want people poo-pooing his "innovations" in spying, tracking, gathering data, and manipulating the public to meet his and his cohort's agenda. Being told that's a bad thing makes him almost feel something akin to what humans would think of as shame, and the Zuckerbot's operating system tends to get a bit fritzy when it borders into human emotion. Just easier to not do the things that make him feel that weird semi-emotion, theref
Zuck the ultimate drivelling voyeur (Score:5, Insightful)
Like fuck you Zuck. You spy on everybody then whine when you own words get distributed because you are somehow special?
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You guys are like heroin addicts. I dont mean you specifically but those that consume social media. You point out all this evil shit but keep going back to the needle every time. The problem would just go away if people stopped consuming. The stupidity of it all goes all the way back to MySpace. Its become the worst case of keeping up with the Jones’ in the history of this planet. Who gives a fuck what someone youll never meet does on a Thursday afternoon. You also dont ‘must have’ every
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So, I stopped posting and forgot about it.
Since then I have learned that, yes, peoples lives
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Tell me more about this– "sleep" thing.
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The problem would just go away if people stopped consuming.
The heroin metaphor applies here twofold. Just quitting would be the solution, but I wish it could be that simple.
Doom scrolling any social medium is a vicious cycle of wasting hours of one's life trying to find something mentally stimulating, because the thousands of things they just looked at are no longer interesting. It can be depressing, and a depressed person is more likely to continue this in a downward spiral. Just like a drug addiction.
I liked Facebook when I started using it 20 years ago, but I am
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There is a very big problem with this. Firstly internal company meetings are internal. Your boss is paying you to do your job and if your job says this is internal keep it internal and do your fucking job. It doesn't matter if this is McDonalds, Facebook or the FBI. Internal is internal and if you can't keep things internal, then you should be fired.
And if you do make the sacrifice of potentially being fired by leaking something that in the long run helps humanity, good for you. But this is not that though.
Conflicted views (Score:3)
Re:Conflicted views (Score:5, Insightful)
Given Facebook's business model, it takes a certain sort of person to self-justify drawing a salary from them - and that sort of person is not likely to value loyalty, ethics, or even company policy - it'll always come down to what they can get away with and manage to profit from.
So, yeah - of course everything that's said internally at Facebook gets leaked!
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Given Facebook's business model, it takes a certain sort of person to self-justify drawing a salary from them - and that sort of person is not likely to value loyalty, ethics, or even company policy - it'll always come down to what they can get away with and manage to profit from.
So, yeah - of course everything that's said internally at Facebook gets leaked!
Oil, defence contractor, advertising, health insurance, finance, etc, etc.
There's not a lot of jobs where no one has ethical concerns. I don't see FB as particularly bad compared to any other company (especially in big tech), it really comes down to whether it violates your personal ethics to work there.
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Seems a little counter productive for people that earn a living from company...to deliberately do things to harm their company.
You're jumping to "leaks" being about something insidious, to which they need to be held accountable....when it could just as, or more, likely be about new products, strategic decisions, etc.
Y'all have a chip on your shoulder over Zuckerberg....but it applies to any company.
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... Any company that acts like the Stasi of the world.
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To quote Star Wars, “who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?“. You people know for a fact that the whole company considers you dumb fucks, and you keep coming back to the heroin needle every fucking time. I also have no sympathy for a battered wife who’s called the police 27 times and yet keeps coming back to that asshole every time. Fool me once shame on you, fool, me 27 times and maybe I need to fucking be locked up for my own protection.
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But also, leaking increases accountability
It really doesn't. I get why it might appear that it does, but I think in practice the opposite happens.
I watched the evolution at Google, and its impacts. When I joined Google 15 years ago, the weekly all-hands meetings were very informative. People asked hard questions and Larry and Sergey answered them honestly. Prospective new products were discussed in detail, and real feedback provided. And all of it stayed confidential.
Then 3-4 years in it started to change. First it was just a few vague leaks a
Translation (Score:3)
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I reckon the "poll" was simply an effort to reduce the volume of leaks; this way he can tailor whatever he says in fluffy prose that says nothing.
Strange statements in a strange setting (Score:3)
How often does a grunt below board of directors level see Zuck in person? How much of the leakage happens by people who Zuck has interviewed himself? Besides, what's wrong with sharing and reacting, I thought the collection of leaks and reactions was a business model.
In short, gtfo, you disgusting caricature of the lizard people
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In short, gtfo, you disgusting caricature of the lizard people
Inside Job flashbacks... Thanks!
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How often does a grunt below board of directors level see Zuck in person? How much of the leakage happens by people who Zuck has interviewed himself?
Any full time employee who wants to (and happens to be in the right part of the world) can go to the all-hands meeting in person, potentially sit a few feet from the CEO, and ask questions unscripted.
Leaks are a symptom of the obvious larger problem. (Score:5, Insightful)
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"Try making an actually insightful ontopic comment."
But it is insightful. Nobody likes Zuck and his fucking voyeur ass, so that's why his shit is constantly getting leaked in return.
Give and get alike.
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That's speculation at best. The open nature of the regular Q&A process for employees is clearly a factor and more of an indication of naïveté than malevolence. Of course some employees are going to want to leak juicy shit. It's just human nature to want to do that.
Also note that the people leaking also work at Facebook, so clearly the whole 'parasite' thing is something they don't mind making money off of.
See, look at that. I at least made an attempt to use my brain. But you guys go with "Zuck
Re:Leaks are a symptom of the obvious larger probl (Score:4, Insightful)
Don't get me wrong: I don't like Zukcerberg either, but I really don't like my time to be wasted with this bullshit.
But here you are.
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Do you have anything interesting to say, or are you content in just reveling in your whored karma?
You make Slashdot a shit place.
Re:Leaks are a symptom of the obvious larger probl (Score:4, Insightful)
You chose to add to the conversation while crying about the fact that it was taking place. Now you want to attack others for pointing out that you're a hypocrite, as hypocrites always do. You were also clearly karma whoring and now you're crying about karma whoring. Cry harder.
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When I worked at Yahoo, you couldn't fart without it ending up on Valleywag. The leaders hated it - they periodically had 'clear outs' where anyone that didn't overtly support the Great Cause got fired/replaced. Shortly thereafter, the leaks would resume. One of the CEOs said she was going to find who was doing the leaking and then pretend to give them a prize so she could fire them on stage.
Ultimately, it was because the majority of people were just working a job. The believers were all gone, we'd all surv
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Indeed. A person of thoroughly negative worth.
I wish it didn't leak (Score:5, Funny)
because all Zuckerberg says also stinks.
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Re:I wish it didn't leak [and make me look bad!] (Score:2)
Closest to the joke I was looking for per my modified Subject. The real problem (from Zuck's perspective) is that he keeps saying things that reveal what a nasty person he's become. Can't blame all of it on autism.
But as sociopaths go Zuck isn't even in the top ten? Well, perhaps if we limit it to rich sociopaths?
"What are you gonna do- (Score:2)
Man who was stabbed
I for one welcome our new Metalords (Score:2)
Anything I want to leak, I just post on Suckerberg's social media. No all-hands meetings needed. How much value that adds to the worlds is open to debate, however.
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In Soviet Russia (Score:2)
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In Capitalist America, Zuck leaks YOU!
What Zuck means (Score:5, Funny)
His data is being is being released to third parties without his permission.
How odd he doesn't like that.
Honest leadership and loyalty in action (Score:5, Interesting)
When the top leadership is dishonest, manipulative and corrupt why expect anything else? A fish rots from the head down.
Shareholder value != value in the world (Score:2)
If you were creating value in the world, leaks would amplify that because others could do the same. Equating shareholder value with value in the world is just gaslighting.
Ironic (Score:2)
Bummer, man (Score:2)
Like, why does he talk like a 12 year old?
He's wrong (Score:2)
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I wonder if there's any way to trace the socio-economic impact of such large Wasted Projects money?
'Everything I Say sucks,' (Score:2)
Zuckerberg Says
All I have to say is: (Score:2)
"Dumbfucks"
How ironic (Score:2)
A guy who allowed his company to track your location, your habits, your friends, your family then complains that his conversations are being leaked.
what sucks? (Score:2)
"Everything I say leaks. And it sucks, right?,"
Right, everything you say sucks. You suck.
If everything you say leaks... (Score:2)
If everything you say leaks, then stop saying shitty things that leak and make you look like the shitty person you are.
People leak stuff for a reason, and it's not because you're a great guy trying to do beneficial things. It's because you're a massive turd trying to self-enrich beyond any reasonable degree at the expense of everyone else, and society in general.
genocide? murder? (Score:2)
Employees Updated Their Agreement (Score:2)
Larger Trend (Score:2)
Fixing leaks (Score:1)