
OpenAI Considering 16 States For Data Center Campuses (cnbc.com) 16
OpenAI is considering building large-scale data center campuses in 16 states as part of the Stargate initiative, a $100 billion joint venture with Oracle and SoftBank aimed at strengthening U.S. AI infrastructure. CNBC reports: On a call with reporters, OpenAI executives said it sent out a request for proposals (RFP) to states less than a week ago. "A project of this size represents an opportunity to both re-industrialize parts of the country, but also to help revitalize where the American Dream is going to go in this intelligence age," Chris Lehane, OpenAI's vice president of global policy, said on the call.
[...] The 16 states OpenAI is currently considering are Arizona, California, Florida, Louisiana, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and West Virginia. Construction on the data centers in Abilene, Texas, is currently underway. In the coming months, OpenAI will begin announcing additional construction sites "on a rolling basis," according to the presentation. Each campus is designed to support about one gigawatt of power or more.
OpenAI is aiming to build five to 10 data center campuses total, although executives said that number could rise or fall depending on how much power each campus offers. The company also said it expects each data center campus to generate thousands of jobs. That includes construction and operational roles. But Stargate's first data center in Abilene could lead to the creation of just 57 jobs, according to recent reports.
[...] The 16 states OpenAI is currently considering are Arizona, California, Florida, Louisiana, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and West Virginia. Construction on the data centers in Abilene, Texas, is currently underway. In the coming months, OpenAI will begin announcing additional construction sites "on a rolling basis," according to the presentation. Each campus is designed to support about one gigawatt of power or more.
OpenAI is aiming to build five to 10 data center campuses total, although executives said that number could rise or fall depending on how much power each campus offers. The company also said it expects each data center campus to generate thousands of jobs. That includes construction and operational roles. But Stargate's first data center in Abilene could lead to the creation of just 57 jobs, according to recent reports.
Getting states to offer you subsidies, of course (Score:2)
Raise the idea that you might be coming, and see what money they'll cough up for you to do so.
One of the features of the EU is that it prevents that sort of behaviour; the US doesn't have any such restrictions.
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It's not even a trick anymore we all know what they're doing. We could literally just give the money out to random citizens and we'd come out ahead because they wouldn't be guzzling down our power and water for something is worthless as LLMS replacing customer service reps which is really all they're using them for.
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We could literally just give the money out to random citizens and we'd come out ahead because they wouldn't be guzzling down our power and water for something is worthless
Woah! Slow down there, cowboy. Something like that could stimulate the local economy, improving the lives of everyone in those communities. In case you didn't know, everyone also includes poor people and people who don't "deserve" a better life, like those lazy single moms working multiple jobs. Can you imagine? What if their children didn't go hungry? I shudder to think of the repercussions... better educational outcomes ... lower crime ... increased civic participation ...
Even worse, strong economie
In the future... (Score:2)
Re:In the future... (Score:5, Informative)
My guy feeling is another Foxconn debacle that the taxpayers will be on the hook for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
You don't get rich by spending your own money. You spend other people's money.
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What will all of this data center space be used for after AI is done? Should it go back to bitcoin mining, or will it be ad farms for FB? Or will it just be sold off to companies like Tierpoint to re-purpose as....real data centers?
Since AI won't be "done" until it makes these pesky humans extinct, it's a bit of a rhetorical question I'm guessing
SUBSIDIES DON'T WORK for the states (Score:1)
Sates offer subsidies for movies, concerts, space complexes, and now Sam Altma's sociopathic bs.
It is a transfer of wealth from the citizens of those states to the companies that take advantage of them.
But you see, it's not the STATE that tries this fund transfer, it's LOBBYISTS paid for by the companies, that
push the STATE to give them these rights.
Fuck the lobbyists. Fuck the companies who want tax fraud dollars. And fuck the legislators who are easily bought
and say "Sure, we'll give you money."
Also, Sa
Data centers... (Score:4, Interesting)
We're seeing a boom in datacenter construction in and around Round Rock, Texas. Switch is building in all the remaining space around Dell's main campus, Sabey is a couple blocks further east, some other outfit I've never heard of is a few blocks further east again. Massive amounts of power getting brought in, lots of fiber getting pulled, the nameless place has huge prefab modules attached to them. I can't tell if they're A/C units or backup gensets, I can't get close enough. This last week they've been upgrading the 345 kV main distribution line east of Pflugerville. It's been literally years in the making. Massive security apparatus as well, fences / walls, motion detectors, etc...
I think Sabey is actually open and in operation at this point. Has a nice parking lot with a guard post. Maybe 4 cars in it during business hours... What I haven't seen... A single tech job posting associated with any of them. Nothing. I'm guessing they're all remote staffed... Just contract security guards and a space manager to let people in and out according to their service ticketing system.
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That seems like the norm. A data center needs facilities, security, and maybe some sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-contractors to rack and stack stuff. Everything else is handled via remote, so the jobs the place has for a larger DC maybe has at most 10 people on staff. A lot of these places are Bitcoin mining operations anyway, so all they need to do is just toss a bunch of ASIC miners, keep the CPUs cooled, and rake in the dough.
I can see Abilene becoming a hub. It is a well designed town, with a loop aro
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That seems like the norm. A data center needs facilities, security, and maybe some sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-contractors to rack and stack stuff.
Right... So why offer local subsidies for job creation? State level maybe, as the overall average will be a slight increase in technician drone jobs. But city level? Hell no. All they're doing is adding grid congestion and heat island effect.
Amusingly, the scuttlebutt for these three is at least a portion of the capacity is for the upcoming Texas Stock Exchange up in Dallas, roughly 11ms latency away.
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So why offer local subsidies for job creation?
Because we're stupid?
Companies build facilities and hire people because they believe doing so will make them money, not out of some sense of civic obligation. They're only "job creators" as long as it benefits them and they'll do everything in their power to make sure those jobs are as few as possible and cost them as little as possible. They're also known to steal from their employees, with wage theft far outstripping all other kinds of property loss by a very wide margin.
Let's be real: they know where
There should only be one⦠(Score:2)
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What about the Ancient complex in Antarctica ?
Minuses... Pluses... (Score:2)