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Jeep Introduces Pop-Up Ads That Appear Every Time You Stop (techstory.in) 155

Posted by BeauHD from the digital-billboards dept.
"In-dash advertising is here and Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram, beat everyone to further enshittification," writes longtime Slashdot reader sinij. "Ads can be seen in this video." From a report: In a move that has left drivers both frustrated and bewildered, Stellantis has introduced full-screen pop-up ads on its infotainment systems. Specifically, Jeep owners have reported being bombarded with advertisements for Mopar's extended warranty service. The kicker? These ads appear every time the vehicle comes to a stop. Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That's the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.

One Jeep 4xe owner recently shared their frustration on an online forum, detailing how these pop-ups disrupt the driving experience. Stellantis, responding through their "JeepCares" representative, confirmed that these ads are part of the contractual agreement with SiriusXM and suggested that users simply tap the "X" to dismiss them. While the company claims to be working on reducing the frequency of these interruptions, the damage to customer trust may already be done.

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  • Idiocracy wasn't supposed to be a documentary... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Moryath ( 553296 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:14PM (#65157519)
    But wasn't this a thing in those cars too?

  • breach of contract? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by belmolis ( 702863 ) <{ude.tim.mula} {ta} {resopllib}> on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:19PM (#65157527) Homepage
    Is this documented in the sales literature? If I had bought one of these cars, I would consider this a breach of contract. I expect to be able to use the GPS, the radio, and so forth, full time, without interruptions from advertisements.

    • Re:breach of contract? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ukoda ( 537183 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:39PM (#65157569) Homepage
      I think you will find your answer depends on if it was exported.

      From what I hear if you are in the USA then you better just get used to it, as it would appear consumers don't have many rights there.

      If exported to countries with strong consumer rights laws then consumer push back should result in government intervention to resolve the problem. In such places the law generally sets to enforce what the average person would think is fair and reasonable. Having ads on your infotainment system when you were not consuming entertainment content is not going to be considered fair or reasonable to the average person.

      Regardless it should be huge red flag not to buy this brand, but from what I can tell there is a large number people whom seem to think ads anywhere anytime is just a fact of live and will simply accept it. So while it should hurt sales the sad fact is it will probably be a profitable idea for them.

    • is this even street legal? under the laws about (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:40PM (#65157699)

      is this even street legal? under the laws Videos and Movies that the driver can see are not allowed.
      And ads may be pushing the limits.

    • Is this documented in the sales literature?

      It was likely buried in the EULA that you agreed to after signing the paperwork to pay tens of thousands of dollars for the vehicle. And if the EULA didn't mention it, it probably did contain a clause that stated that the terms of the EULA could change at any time - and then they did. They've covered their asses while filling yours.

      I would consider this a breach of contract

      Consider it whatever you want, but the only opinion that matters is the opinion of the ju

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        In the UK we have an excellent legal precedent called the "red hand rule".

        Basically if a contract contains any term that is out of the ordinary and that the party agreeing to it is likely to want to know about, it needs to be highlighted. Back in the day they would print a little red hand pointing to it, but it can be in bold, larger font etc. The more onerous it is, the more effort needs to be made to point it out.

        And if they fail to do that, even if it wasn't deliberately buried in a wall of text, it can'

    • You’re probably right but Stellantis has buildings full of lawyers so you’ll lose.

    • Is this documented in the sales literature? If I had bought one of these cars, I would consider this a breach of contract.

      Your first mistake would have been buying anything Stellantis makes. You fucked yourself over the second you decided to walk into that dealership. If your car has anything to do with Stellantis, it's guaranteed to be a turd on wheels. Jeep in particular has always been a shit brand, no more related to the old US Army quarter ton truck than Hummer is to an HMMWV. I'm sure the UAW fanboys would disagree, but they're hopelessly biased.

      • I think that Stellantis should be sold to a Japanese car maker next. That way all three Axis powers would get to have their turn to manufacture Jeeps and create patriotic All-American TV ads.

      • Maybe an early 90's Wrangler but anything newer I'd agree.

        If you see a 70's Wagoneer in decent shape let me know.

    • Is this documented in the sales literature? If I had bought one of these cars, I would consider this a breach of contract.

      Legally sales literature != contract in countries like the USA where there are fuck all consumer protection laws.

  • If it's just SiriusXM, just add this to another reason to avoid SiriusXM. I had it, and wanted to cancel. Can't do it online. I ended up arguing/yelling interminably at the "customer" service representative, I will NEVER get it again.

    • I easily canceled Sirius XM online.

      They then proceeded to email and call me every other day for a 6 weeks (still ha-pending, tbd how long this goes on). But the actual cancel process wasn't hard.

      I had to tell their chat to about 4 times that's yes I really do want to cancel and they kept offering me lower and lower prices to stay. At the end I had th4 chance to provide feedback. I told them I was a long time customer and if they weren't such fuck heads they would have lowered my rate years ago and I'd st

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by torkus ( 1133985 )

        I think SiriusXM knows they're dying and is doing everything they can to stay relevant. Unlike other businesses (CD sales before MP3s, iTunes before stream, etc.) they don't really have ground to sue over or any usable laws they could get passed to prop them up.

        Every freaking car comes with SiriusXM and a free 6 or 12 months to try and hook people. Then they make it difficult to cancel and harass you after as you know. Yeah, long haul truckers may see dead zones and benefit from it but realistically the

    • There was supposed to be legislation to fix SiriusXM cancellation shenanigans, making signing up for the service more palatable.

      But now this? Fuck em. Now we need a legislated way to preemptively cancel 'courtesy trial subscriptions.' that now apparently show ads.
    • I have SiriusXM - I do not get ads when my car stops. This is Jeep utilizing SiriusXM's platform to spread their own ads.

  • HELL (Score:5, Interesting)

    by RitchCraft ( 6454710 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:22PM (#65157537)

    NO! Fuck you Stellantis. Burn in hell. Fuck you ass raping marketers. You suck worse than used car salesmen, ISPs, Telcos, and insurance companies combined. (sorry, I really hate advertising)

    • (sorry, I really hate advertising)

      Don't apologize. I really hate advertising also. Please tell me what you think about the modern internet.

    • NO! Fuck you Stellantis. Burn in hell. Fuck you ass raping marketers.

      Remember the heated seat subscription that BMW(?) was promoting for awhile? Just wait for a prompt to appear on the dashboard while reaching a stoplight.

      I'm sorry Dave, you've completely used up your free complimentary braking allowance for this month. Would you like more information into our "Premium" Plan* that slows the vehicle down up to 50%, or perhaps you'd be more interested in our "Ultimate" Plan* that lets you come to a compete stop up to 300x a month? (That's TEN a day!) Otherwise, for your

  • Time to start unplugging some modules (Score:3, Interesting)

    by angryman77 ( 6900384 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:22PM (#65157541)
    I'd pay good money for a car that simply does what I tell it to do. When I say "tell it to do" I mean I press on a pedal or two, turn the steering wheel, or maybe even hit some button somewhere else in the vehicle that's meaningfully labeled. Speaking of buttons, don't even get me started on all those skeuomorphic icons decorating every vehicle infotainment interface in the last 10 years...do they even make sense to the designer?

  • SiriusXM is Enshitification of Car Radios (Score:5, Interesting)

    by JakFrost ( 139885 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:30PM (#65157555)

    This isn't a new thing because even my decade old Toyota car with the SirusXM car radio automatically switches to the XM 1 radio station that advertises the SirusXM subscription service about once a month ever since I cancelled the subscription a year after the original three month one expired. Fuck that company and their monthly resubscribtion demand letters also!

    Advertising is theft of Peace-of-Mind and Marketing is a hijacking of your precious Conscious Time and like a malevolent virus it wants to infect your thoughts and hide in your brain for free.

    Advertising is the Herpes of the Mind!

  • Another reason to avoid Stellantis vehicles (Score:3)

    by Ritz_Just_Ritz ( 883997 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:35PM (#65157565)

    If the poor quality control wasn't already enough of a reason to avoid Stellantis, here is the icing on the cake. There is NO WAY I'd be willing to tolerate a vehicle excreting ads onto the infotainment display. Hard no.

    These people are f'ing crazy. Provide me some ACTUAL value or lose my business.

  • Insured (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Mr_Blank ( 172031 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:41PM (#65157571) Journal

    This seems like a distraction for the driver. Distractions cause accidents. Accidents cost money.

    The lucky drivers of these vehicles will pay again in higher insurance rates.

    Will this be a 'feature' in rental cars too? I do not want this feature.

    • It would be interesting to get into an accident because you were distracted while the vehicle was stopped.

      • I can imagine a situation where a stoplight turns green while you're still screwing with trying to close an ad, and either you don't go when you should and potentially get rear-ended from someone not paying enough attention, or you start moving while still half-distracted by trying to "x" out the ad (though maybe it would automatically stop at that point). Either way, it's a distraction that if nothing else would increase driver stress.

      • You still need to pay attention. In places where driving while using a cellphone is illegal, it's also illegal to use while stopped at a traffic light.

    • Just imagine this in true stop and go traffic. No wonder they want to nuke Carplay.

  • Long live "classic" cars (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JamesTRexx ( 675890 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @08:43PM (#65157575) Journal

    Cars with normal buttons on the dashboard that you can use without looking, an electronic system only for engine management and perhaps one or two accessories, a soundsystem which can be replaced or upgraded with standard components without the need to tear out half the interior, no remote tracking, no drive correcting software which is more of a hinder than a help.

    Sure, if you don't want or like driving a car, use one of those smartphones on wheels. I always enjoyed the old-fashioned driving experience of "dumb" cars.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sk999 ( 846068 )

      +10

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by sinij ( 911942 )
      Unfortunately, just like with smartphones with removable batteries, they are not going to be available. As with everything, you can thank MBAs that are obsessed with producing recurring revenue stream at all costs, even if it means lost sales.

    • No Auto-emergency-braking. No lane following. No driver assist. No cross traffic detection.

      Yeah I get it, I used to think like you, but frankly despite all the talks about how distracting this is, or how dangerous it is to look away from the road to change the AC, modern cars are actually safer both for you and other people.

  • No. Not even. Never. Gonna. Happen.

    Were someone unlucky enough to have one of these, I wonder if they can get around it by replacing the stereo.

    But good lord, how is this not considered a distraction? Actionable, even. I don't care if you're stopped. If I'm stopped and need to track heavy things moving at high rates of speed around me, I do not need a sudden infomercial on toxic poop.

  • Do the ads happen as a way of "supporting" SiriusXM, or are they always present? Would cancelling the XM subscription get rid of them? Regardless of the answer, fuck them. Is there more details on the actual radio unit affected? I kind of want to buy one second hand and try to fuck with it, see how "secure" their secure boot really is, and try to remedy the problem myself. Ugh, automotive always uses those obscure RISC/MIPS SoCs, though it's possible these guys are on ARM already.

  • give me some ideas how to maximize revenue

  • They've been junk for some time. It's amazing how long a brand can Coast on an old reputation these days. Then again I don't know maybe if you need something that can at least kind of go off-road your options are limited. I'm city bound so it's not something I've ever had to really worry about but I know somebody who lives out in the boondocks and he used a little Hyundai Elantra to get around for ages. He had to replace the shocks every 3 to 5 years but that was about it.

    • Well, at least with a Jeep people sometimes leave free rubber ducks on it, which is much more pleasant than what you might find left on your Tesla.

    • Stellantis, which owns Jeep, Chrysler, and Dodge has been selling vehicles based on little changed designs for many many years. It is apparently profitable, more so when they just keep matching other makers prices that actually have new designs.

      The problem is that selling old outdated cars only works for so long when you aren't undercutting competitors on price. Jeep now has to contend with at least the Bronco. And the Scout is coming any year now (with range extender option).

      Allowing a third party to

  • That's why I don't have SiriusXM (Score:3)

    by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:17PM (#65157651)
    The whole thing is a pain.
  • This is both absurd and hilarious, imagine being pulled over by law enforcement, and ask to comply with instructions, only to be interrupted by an ad and forced to endure the consequences of failing to comply with those instructions, or breaking in an emergency, after almost dying, or to unload some emotional dialogue on your spouse. - or stopping in a drive through only to be offered a better deal from a competitor.

    I love how it's written as

    "the company claims to be working on reducing the frequency of these interruptions"

    , they're not even confident enough to call them ads anymore, j

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Z00L00K ( 682162 )

      If you break in an emergency you should get an appointment with your doctor to get emotional checks. If you brake in an emergency it's fine.

  • The day my car shows an ad is the day I sell it for another brand.

  • Sorry officer (Score:3)

    by ukoda ( 537183 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:32PM (#65157677) Homepage
    Police: Why did you run that red light?
    Jeep driver: Ad blocker!

  • OT, but that video, especially the dad in the video is painful. And, setting aside his shrill voice, he's admits in the next segment (about the guy who drove a used Subaru into a dealership building to protest the crap they sold him) that he was an auto dealer marketing something or other which means as far as anything about cars in the US goes, whatever it is, he's part of the problem. ("statistically speaking").

  • In rip out the infotainment center and replace it with third party system.

  • Great idea (Score:3)

    by TwistedGreen ( 80055 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @09:54PM (#65157737)

    Yes this makes perfect sense, because if you're stopped you don't need to be paying attention to your surroundings or watching the road.

    That was sarcasm, in case you missed it.

  • I can't believe it! (Score:5, Funny)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @10:01PM (#65157759)

    Does Harrison Ford know about this?

  • Just keep rolling at a slow pace - just never, ever, stop.

    Then, when there's the inevitable fatal accident, Jeep can get sued into oblivion, as it deserves to be.

  • cyberpunk future (Score:4, Insightful)

    by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @10:30PM (#65157831) Homepage Journal

    Just because I like to read dystopian novels doesn't mean I want to live in one.

  • Next car I buy, I might need to fork it. Are there any forkable new cars for sale? The '99 Maxima is getting a little long in the tooth.

    • Are there any forkable new cars for sale?

      No. The only way to get a car without any big complicated computers you don't control is to go back to the 1990s, when the ECU used a MCU and ran at 3MHz, and was the most complicated computer in the vehicle. The 90s is the last time that's true that also overlaps with the existence of ABS.

  • How is that legal? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by viperidaenz ( 2515578 ) on Monday February 10, 2025 @11:43PM (#65157987)

    I thought any video screens visible to the driver must be showing driving related information only.
    Hence not showing TV, DVD etc unless the parking brake is applied.

  • "I'm gonna go deep into the wilderness to get away from all, to relax!..."

    Dash ad: "Hi Mr. Johnson, are your hemorrhoids acting up again?..."

  • Watch the add every 30min or pay $10 if you do not want to be stopped for 1m?

  • Somehow it seems fitting that the company responsible for this enshitification of driving is having this problem: https://www.carscoops.com/2025... [carscoops.com]
  • The solution I think it's simple. There are a lot of "safety" systems that are required on modern cars, like the lane assist or Intelligent speed Assist.
    Make mandatory for cars have a double DIN receptacle and an ISO connector for power and loudspeaker connection for installing a car radio like was 30 years ago.
    This also solves the problem of AM radio. If the owners want AM radio and maybe a musicassette player they could simply install a vintage car radio.

    • I like your AM radio angle.

      The argument from the other side is that this isn't about consumer choice but it is our national emergency notification system for grid-down.

  • They deserve to be shunned by potential buyers.
    Don't support businesses that treat you like this.
    If you put up with this level of disrespect you'll only get more.

  • Next level electronic trash. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Qbertino ( 265505 ) <moiraNO@SPAMmodparlor.com> on Tuesday February 11, 2025 @05:59AM (#65158429)

    I hate it. My current scooter is from 2017, has mechanical main gauges and a little bit of electronic extras with a classic lcd display that is a tad arcane to adjust with two buttons, like an 80ies digital watch.

    The current 2025 model of that scooter is stuffed up to brim with electronics sans mechanical gauges, including reverse camera (no joke!), reverse drive ( no joke!!) and radar distance alarm (I'm being serious!). Don’t belive me? [piaggio.com] I'll be avoiding that one like the plague and will drive mine until it falls apart. I'm currently doing my motorcycle license and will only use minimal electronics in any motorbike I get.

    It's the same reason I ( and many of you guys ) don't use that IoTrash. This sort of crap in a Jeep is the ultimate joke.

  • SirusXM could team up with Google to use data to show tailored ads, such as suggesting a nearby sex shop that specializes in bondage. Would make the daily kiddies to school car pool interesting. A date, OTOH, could end up being more fun than you hoped...
  • Wonder if and would wager that they don't appear during a test drive ;; have to be activated by dealership?
  • With .0001 microsecond of thought I will be walking away from a new car with pop up ads. This is as easy a decision as a home covered by an HOA: Absolutely not interested.
  • Unless SiriusXM is baking this logic into the user agreement for all new / renewing subscriptions, hedging on this being something that gets wider implementation, there's a simple fix for this then. Just cancel the initial satellite subscription, then create a new account and add your radio Id to the new account. That's a pretty intrusive implementation and is something that ends up biting someone on the ass.

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