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Schrodinger's Economics (thetimes.com) 38

databasecowgirl writes: Commenting in The Times on the absurdity of Meta's copyright infringement claims, Caitlin Moran defines Schrodinger's economics: where a company is both [one of] the most valuable on the planet yet also too poor to pay for the materials it profits from.

Ultimately "move fast and break things" means breaking other people's things. Or, possibly worse, going full 'The Talented Mr Ripley': slowly feeling so entitled to the things you are enamored of that you end up clubbing out the brains of your beloved in a boat.

Schrodinger's Economics

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  • I think the better analogy is someone so obsessed with masturbating that they completely forget to take care of basic essentials like eating, bathing, finding shelter in bad weather, and just sit there waiting for something to kill them with genitals in hand.

  • Reading things is not "Breaking" them.

    Moran (sic) is very good at whining - check her columns - but logical argument is not her strong point.

    Fair copyright that encouraged creativity - its purpose - was fucked by Disney. Copyright is now just a moneymaking scheme for the cartel.
    • by Zak3056 ( 69287 )

      Fair copyright that encouraged creativity - its purpose - was fucked by Disney.

      Walt wasn't even born until 15 years after the Berne convention set a minimum term of 50 years. The Sonny Bono Act in the US came five years after the EU extended copyright to Life of the author + 70 years.

      I'm not saying the Mouse isn't an enthusiastic supporter of extending copyright terms and didn't lobby for the Sonny Bono Act, but to place the blame for how fucked up modern copyright is solely at the feet of Disney is just not accurate.

      • She promotes the idea that "straight white guys in silicon valley" are responsible for destroying everything. Well, Peter Thiel, Altman, plenty of others are not straight. They are white though. I think my point is being queer doesn't automatically make someone not a toxic Tech Bro.

        • The quote actually references San Francisco rather than Silicon Valley which is slightly different but your critique is not off the mark. Although I interpreted the reference to Saureon's Eye as an evocation of Theil with his penchant for branding his surveillance company with a name appropriated from Tolkien.

          Regardless , the point could have been better constructed and I agree with your central premise, Theil and Altman are concrete examples that male toxicity is not limited by sexual orientation.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        I'm not saying the Mouse isn't an enthusiastic supporter of extending copyright terms and didn't lobby for the Sonny Bono Act, but to place the blame for how fucked up modern copyright is solely at the feet of Disney is just not accurate.

        I'm shocked that the idiot trumper is an idiot and a liar.

    • No, but selling photocopies of what you read is illegal and for good reason: in doing so, you are taking away their customers and profiting from income that is rightfully theirs.
  • The entire economy (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheStatsMan ( 1763322 ) on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:19AM (#65278645)

    runs on rules for thee and not for me.

  • by abulafia ( 7826 ) on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:33AM (#65278677)
    It is simple. Just look at his public history. Dude has what amounts to a compulsion he's managed to make a lot of money off of. He believes if he can take it, it is his.

    In a world where he grew up without privilege and never started FB, he'd be in jail for identity theft, or possibly peeping.

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      Zuck even looks like a peeping-tom.

      • by Z00L00K ( 682162 )

        I wouldn't be surprised if every image removed from Facebook will end up in a "For Your Eyes Only" folder that only Zuck has access to - with duplicates removed.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Zuck is a data thief

      Zuck is a Privacy Rapist

      There FTFY.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Indeed. The mind of a thief, the acts of a thief. Only in this case, all large LLM trainers are thieves.

  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:39AM (#65278695)
    AKA kleptocracy.

    My personal favorite example is schrödinger's career. If you go into the trades and you're not doing well you should have gone to college. If you go to college and you're not doing well you should have gone into the trades.

    Whatever happens it's always your personal fault and there are never any larger systemic issues to consider.

    Under absolutely no conditions are you to question the system. The system is sacrosanct.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      The system is sacrosanct.

      Of course it is for those who benefit from it. That is a quickly shrinking group of people.

      • The only plus side is that the shrinking group of those benefiting from kleptocracy are those learning experiences of "I liked fascism until I was the one on the outside looking in."

        It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of self dealing pricks.

        • Is the millionaires don't realize that until they're on the way down from a window of a ten story building.

          I remember seeing a news article about a millionaire woman complaining that she couldn't compete with the billionaires for time with congressman anymore. It didn't make sense to her because in her brain she was the same as the billionaires. She didn't understand that she's as far removed from them as we are from her when it comes to wealth and power.

          I do think that a Democrat party should do so
        • by postbigbang ( 761081 ) on Thursday April 03, 2025 @05:06PM (#65279517)

          And when I looked up my name in the metadata db of stolen stuff by Meta, nine of twelve works magically popped up.

          Honestly, those books are landfill fodder at this stage because they were specific to hardware and software also now in landfills.

          Each of them took hundreds of hours to prepare, and pubishers paid me for them. If you're a bit older, you read some. Some were translated across the planet. But today, they're as good as bad compost.

          Without so much as saying, "Please?", these were wholesale sucked up into training data. They range from 220 to 900 pages of texts, references, tables, models, blah blah blah. My publishers did not negotiate with them. I still hold the copyrights on four, and joint with three others. They've been used as college texts.

          Later on, indeed years later, I'm high and dry, no ability to reap a reward because so far, none of the publishers wants to burn the lawyers fees on what will be protracted litigation on two continents and jurisdictions. I'm certainly not alone.

          Kleptocracy? After I'm dead, the US Supreme Court will render a verdict that may or may not benefit my estate, and what little is actually net after lawyers fees, will be: a $20 electronic Visa card.

          No one will go to jail. No USD20K/instance will be fined, none of that will happen, just the sense that every book is a work for hire and don't expect royalties. This will extend to code (anyone robbing Git/Hub recently? Perhaps other FOSS sources?), and most things you do for hire. Copyright will only be defended by the franchises having the legal strength to send real shells across the bow, so to speak.

    • AKA crony capitalism. As long as the system is regulated by the government, corporations will buy laws.
  • Reminds me of a Firefly quote: "I got a rule, I never let go of money I don't have to..."
  • Or, possibly worse, going full 'The Talented Mr Ripley': slowly feeling so entitled to the things you are enamored of that you end up clubbing out the brains of your beloved in a boat.

    Aww, I hadn't seen that one yet.

  • "the White House X account posted a Ghibliesque picture of a female drug dealer crying as ICE immigrant agents arrested her"
    What the fuck is wrong with these people? I know, stupid question.

  • by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Thursday April 03, 2025 @12:17PM (#65278825)

    At least in my browser, TFA is hopelessly paywalled. Here's a an unwalled link which covers the same story:

    https://futurism.com/openai-studio-ghibli-style-images

    My personal take on all of this is that we're witnessing a kind of Virtual Imperialism, wherein "all your art and culture are belong to us". Big Tech views all it surveys as a fire hydrant or utility pole. It spends its days pissing on everything which projects a foot or more above ground level, in order to mark it all as its territory.

    I think in honour of Cory Doctorow I'll call this flagrant abuse "enpissification".

  • It makes it harder to lynch them

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