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News Sites Are Getting Crushed by Google's New AI Tools (wsj.com) 129

"It is true, Google AI is stomping on the entire internet," writes Slashdot reader TheWho79, sharing a report from the Wall Street Journal. "From HuffPost to the Atlantic, publishers prepare to pivot or shut the doors. ... Even highly regarded old school bullet-proof publications like Washington Post are getting hit hard." From the report: Traffic from organic search to HuffPost's desktop and mobile websites fell by just over half in the past three years, and by nearly that much at the Washington Post, according to digital market data firm Similarweb. Business Insider cut about 21% of its staff last month, a move CEO Barbara Peng said was aimed at helping the publication "endure extreme traffic drops outside of our control." Organic search traffic to its websites declined by 55% between April 2022 and April 2025, according to data from Similarweb.

At a companywide meeting earlier this year, Nicholas Thompson, chief executive of the Atlantic, said the publication should assume traffic from Google would drop toward zero and the company needed to evolve its business model. [...] "Google is shifting from being a search engine to an answer engine," Thompson said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. "We have to develop new strategies."

The rapid development of click-free answers in search "is a serious threat to journalism that should not be underestimated," said William Lewis, the Washington Post's publisher and chief executive. Lewis is former CEO of the Journal's publisher, Dow Jones. The Washington Post is "moving with urgency" to connect with previously overlooked audiences and pursue new revenue sources and prepare for a "post-search era," he said.

At the New York Times, the share of traffic coming from organic search to the paper's desktop and mobile websites slid to 36.5% in April 2025 from almost 44% three years earlier, according to Similarweb. The Wall Street Journal's traffic from organic search was up in April compared with three years prior, Similarweb data show, though as a share of overall traffic it declined to 24% from 29%.
Further reading: Google's AI Mode Is 'the Definition of Theft,' Publishers Say

News Sites Are Getting Crushed by Google's New AI Tools

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  • The Washington Post is "moving with urgency" to connect with previously overlooked audiences and pursue new revenue sources and prepare for a "post-search era," he said.

    This may be a good thing. The death of clickbait journalism is not something to be mourned. The question is what is the new business model for news and will restore real journalism that informs its readers.

    • by sinij ( 911942 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:45PM (#65441373)
      There is no reason to assume that what replace it, lets call it AI-baiting, is going to be an improvement over old click bait.
    • While Bezos is cranking up the process of turning the Post into a zombified corpse, currently it is still stands as one of the largest employers of actual, full time, fully qualified journalists who are paid to take the time to go talk to real live people, dig through spreadsheets and corporate records, check their sources against other sources, and do, you know, real journalism. Pulitzers they won in 2024;

      National Reporting: Staff of The Washington Post

      For its sobering examination of the AR-15 semi-auto

      • I see a list of stories. I see zero "news" in any of them. They are basically pure clickbait with a spin to grab readers' interest. Its not a story about AR-15s, its a story about the horrors wrought by them. Its not about new technologies, its the tactics of authoritarian regimes.
    • by TheWho79 ( 10289219 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @10:10PM (#65441533)
      Have you even been to one of these big paper "real journalism" sites lately? Just reading down the WSJ, WaPo, and NYT home pages tonight, there isn't a single story that would be 'click bait' in any sense of the meaning. Driving interest to get people to read a story is part of journalism.
      • Driving interest to get people to read a story is part of journalism.

        Isn't that what clickbait is? There isn't a single story covered by major news sites that doesn't pass through that filter. There was a time when newspapers sold a collection of stories. But clickbait journalism requires that each story sell itself. If its not good clickbait, it doesn't get covered.

    • Paid subscribers to traditional newspapers and magazines has been declining for 30 years along with the boomer and WW2 generation getting older.

      What's happening is that the 'news nugget' or 'one quote and one factoid' news stories are no longer drawing traffic since AI search engine will bring together what more or less looks like a viable answer.

      Conjecture: Newspapers and magazines now. The flood of corporate press releases and alarmist research reports next.

      • by mysidia ( 191772 )

        Corporate press releases will continue to exist because they are a marketing tool of those companies not news, and the AI scrapers will eat them up, since they will be one of the few kinds of news left after the general news websites stop making content - Every article they push out will be an article they were paid by advertisers to write In order for AI engines to scrape.

        The real news will be items locked behind paywalls designed to keep both AIs and search engines looking at their content.

    • The death of clickbait journalism is not something to be mourned.

      Thanks for exposing your bias. Clickbait journalism exists, but burning down the entire field because you don't like a clickbait headline is not the solution that is in anyone's interest.

    • by jmke ( 776334 )
      > Death of Clickbait Journalism is A Good Thing

      if only it would impact those sites, but nope, it impacts everything, click through rate is abysmal for any and all sites. AI summaries top of the search results for any subject. Google for "search" is worthless, but majority will happily accept the AI summary and never look further.

      How is that a long term smart move?? google is biting the hand that feeds it: content creators. If you want to ensure people actually find your site, you will have to start..
    • You need to think more outside the box,
      look at how things have played out historically,
      and feed that into the general trends of what
      direction our society is going in and who chooses
      that direction.

      Censorship will be the end result.
      What AI isnt trained on cannot be known.
      That the truth can finally be silenced or become white noise.

      quote ; "At least "Clickbait Journalism" is easy to identify and avoid"

      AI tools will make it Harder to identify and avoid.

      #KnowThis
      People will see this as a good thing, and it is,
      bu

      • by mysidia ( 191772 )

        Censorship will be the end result.
        What AI isnt trained on cannot be known.

        It won't just be censorship.. It will ultimately be companies paying to get content created that causes AIs to say what the companies trying to sell stuff want to be heard.

        Viewers/people who consume media will crave the answers to questions they are putting to the AI, and the AI companies are going to want to make sure their AI can give plausible-sounding answers to those questions that keep people using THEIR services.

        The AI compa

    • by mysidia ( 191772 )

      The question is what is the new business model for news
      There is no new business model for news. If they can't get people to even look at their stuff, then the whole idea of professional business of newsgathering for the public at large is not a viable business anymore. Perhaps some specialized publications would continue to exist Not for the general public, but for certain clients only: such as stock traders who need parts of the news prepared with some level of quality to inform their research and d

      • There is no new business model for news. If they can't get people to even look at their stuff, then the whole idea of professional business of news gathering for the public at large is not a viable business anymore

        Winston Churchill was a journalist. He went to South Africa during the Boer War to report on what was happening. He had subscribers who paid for his dispatches. Of course his subscribers were all part of the ruling class in Britain. But there is nothing that requires reporting to be done on a web page available to everyone. What is needed is an audience that is willing to pay for it.

        What advertising does is disconnect the payment process from the people using the service. Everyone pays for the service when

        • by mysidia ( 191772 )

          Of course his subscribers were all part of the ruling class in Britain.

          So he was acting not as part of the press. Not a journalist reporting news to the public, but a private researcher collecting news / recent events information for an elite audience.

          there is nothing that requires reporting to be done on a web page available to everyone

          There is nothing that dictates a specific medium, but if the reporting is limited to small audience and carries a high cost for access, and is therefore not intended to be

          • so he was acting not as part of the press.

            Isn't that where the term "journalist" came from? Somebody who reported on events. He certainly was described as a journalist at the time.

            It is the public press in wide distribution that early founders realized is so critical and vital towards the possibility of the people staying free

            No, it isn't. The press of the colonial era was always directed at a small number of subscribers. They were protecting the right of people to publish, not some institutional "press".

  • Hypocrisy (again) (Score:5, Insightful)

    by NewtonsLaw ( 409638 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:32PM (#65441355)

    When it's wearing its YouTube hat, Google says

    "fair use is not for us to decide, it's for courts to decide"

    so they always side with those who claim copyright infringement in any uploaded content. As a result, videos and even entire channels get unfairly removed.

    However, when Google is wearing its AI hat *it* claims that is is exempted from copyright because of "fair use" -- *without* waiting for the courts to decide.

    Come on Google... you can't have it both ways -- either you need the court's consent for "fair use" or you don't. Which is it?

    • by SirSlud ( 67381 )

      When you're the size of Google, of course you can have it both ways. What's the entire point of effectively legalized regulatory capture if not the privilege of having it both (or 5 or 10 or N) ways?

    • by allo ( 1728082 )

      YouTube for long blocked videos with copyright claims "Sorry we did not get the permission of GEMA", then they got offered a good deal for that and rather provide a good service to the copyright claims than to the users. You must see them as a part of the music industry rather than a video upload site for users now, when it comes to music on their site.

    • by butlerm ( 3112 )

      If news sites do not want Google to index or scan their pages they can just block them or make them only accessible to subscribers, which is something they do already. Of course many media companies do have legitimate complaints about traffic burden and fair use of copyrighted works, especially those that require substantially more time, effort, resources, and creativity to create than quite often biased, tendentious, and selective selection of the facts most modern "mainstream" news outlets provide, such

  • by OrangeTide ( 124937 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:50PM (#65441385) Homepage Journal

    When an invasive predator enters an environment and wipes out all the prey, then the predator too starves.

    Without news sites to scrape, there will be no feeding the AI. With one key exception. When a site is driven by political agenda instead of advertisement revenue. And imagine the sort of scenario where one AI spews generated fake news, and another AI ends up mainly consuming it.

    • When an invasive predator enters an environment and wipes out all the prey, then the predator too starves.

      This is where an aggregation platform and AI can come together to produce a crowd sourced news feed. Ideally your smart watch would sense the rise in your heart rate without exercise and ask you want is happening. You tell it what is happening, it transcribes your description to an aggregation platform where AI takes everyone's responses and creates a news story. Your watch could even request you take

    • Without news sites to scrape, there will be no feeding the AI. With one key exception. When a site is driven by political agenda instead of advertisement revenue.

      You have it partially right here.

      But the one divergence from the pattern you didn't list is, that because most AI. (and Google's AI specifically) is very left leaning, it will feed you only left leaning news... so the sites that will remain, and keep earring revenue are more right leaning sites since people would have to go to them directly anyway

      • But the one divergence from the pattern you didn't list is, that because most AI. (and Google's AI specifically) is very left leaning, it will feed you only left leaning news...

        Yea. Those leftists at Google. Always trying to help the proletariat and radically destroy our traditional hierarchies based on class, wealth, and political power.
        Surely we'll soon see Alphabet donate its entire fortune towards the biggest voluntary redistribution of wealth to the working class in history.
        I hope George Soros invites me to party on his yacht to celebrate this victory for the far left and the communist ideals we share.

        Or, perhaps your idea of what is left wing in deeply corporate America is s

  • by toddz ( 697874 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:50PM (#65441387)
    When all the traditional journalism channels die we will still have social media so very opinionated people can tell us what they thought happened.
  • by rossdee ( 243626 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:51PM (#65441389)

    Is Slashdot still going?

  • I've found Gemini answers to be wrong most of the time

    • I asked Gemini and it said, with authority that it was never wrong. </satire>

    • The answers are continually getting worse, too. If you ask it about anything technical it will hallucinate functionality that doesn't exist! Go to this settings page, click this thing... it's not there! It also refuses to answer any questions which are actually interesting, and it absolutely refuses to provide useful numbers or percentages. What a festering worthless pile of shit Google has created there.

      • I asked it to compare a Synology DS1621+ with the new DS1525+ and it told me they're both similar 5-bay NAS's

        The Synology DS1621+ and DS1525+ are both 5-bay NAS devices, but the DS1621+ offers more features and potential for performance. It has a more powerful AMD Ryzen V1500B CPU

        Except I wanted to compare them because the 1525 is a new model with the same CPU as the 4 year old one.
        I think it couldn't find much about the new 1525, so it's mashed up the specs from the 918+ and the 1515+
        It then goes on to contradict itself

        Drive Bays:
        The DS1621+ has one extra drive bay, providing more flexibility in storage configurations.

  • Well, combine that with google shopping, maps, search etc and google is practically merging the internet as a data source it doesn’t pay to do the service of the sites it steals from. Want to book a trip? Buy a product ? Find a place ? Took a picture? Made a video? Wrote a email, story, book? Let google repackage the content, logistics, work and give it to others completely leaving you out of the loop, well sort of, they’ll assign an allotted bandwidth of traffic after they sell it first. They w
  • If your business model relies on traffic sent to you by an advertising company, your income stream is pretty fragile.

    The bigger concern is the consolidation of human knowledge into a capitalist organisation (eg Alphabet).

    When websites collapse due to loss of revenue from ad traffic, the training resources for AI will evaporate too.

    The tension between the two is palpable. I expect that the balance point between the two will be completely unfit to service either.
  • Enshittification (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dskoll ( 99328 ) on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @09:33PM (#65441463) Homepage

    Yes, I know, the word is becoming overused.

    But once you become dependent on a platform (and most web sites are heavily dependent on Google and social media for traffic) then you are vulnerable.

    The platforms then decide they want all the profits, since as public companies they have to maximize shareholder value. So they screw over the "partners" who were formerly the entire reason for the platform to exist, but are now just patsies whose content can be stolen with impunity.

    Google should be destroyed. Same with Meta. These platforms are a curse on humanity.

    • It!s the Google News issue all over again, which was never really resolved. Of course, Google is the DoD's baby and they would never hurt her. So now she just plays the ditzy blonde while wholesale ripping off data from every database it can.

  • Are they hopeless idiots believing there's one tit to suckle ? its an index you idiots.

  • All those 'respected' news outlets were pumping out so much propaganda and biased 'news' that nobody trusts them anymore.
    Who cares about all those 'news'' articles which were only written for a propagating the hidden agenda of someone else?
    I for one am skipping all those sites for years now and I guess many others too.

  • To be fair even Google losing money on AI

    The traditional web model was easy to understand. You visited web pages and consumed content. And in return they showed ads. Additionally search engines had better targeted ads, because frankly you had just typed "speaker recommendations"

    Today?

    Your AI agent (whatever that is) is running those search queries, retrieving results, looking at web pages and summarizing information. Without any single page view by the user, and of course no ads at all. (Again a problem for

    • by test321 ( 8891681 ) on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:13AM (#65441867)

      I don't know what the future will bring.

      Model 1 "Firefox": As Google eats other advertisers and starves the press, they'll let drip a few bucks for the prey not to die off.
      Model 2 "Government": Implemented in France since 1997, direct government subsidies to the press cover the progressive reduction in advertisement revenue. The government is prohibited from discriminating on political opinion, so mainstream, alt-right, communist, catholic, local news... all can apply. Total budgeted help 200 million euros, distributed within 800 titles.

      • While model 2 "Taxes" might be risky because of the control it gives to government, it's a similar to universities. There are subsidies to the higher education sector due to their societal role, so why not to newspapers.
        Model 3 "Donors".

    • by allo ( 1728082 )

      Back to the roots. Leave the web as you can't milk it anymore and let it to the people who just want to share their stuff without looking to get money for it. I bet you will see great crowd-powered (and crowed-funded) news sites, once they don't have to compete with the search optimized clickbait anymore.

  • If Business Insider and The Register die, then factual tech news might stand a chance.

    And then maybe CNN and Fox News could mutually annihilate, producing only light.
  • Or maybe it has to do with the political takeover of the Washington Post? It used to be the standard of journalism, and it cannot no longer claim that.

    I agree that it is a vicious cycle, but the WP willingly participated in the race the bottom.

  • No presence in mainland China at all. That's quite a large portion of the Internet...and the world's population too.

    • No presence in mainland China at all. That's quite a large portion of the Internet...and the world's population too.

      Why would Google AI bother to crush a network that has been pre-crushed?
      The Internet doesn't have a presence in mainland China, but mainland China has a pre-crushed subset of the Internet.
      All Google is doing in the West is moving us toward the same future that has always existed in China.
      You want to know what that future looks like? Imagine a boot stomping on a human face, forever.

  • If they do not appear in the Google results if they don't manage it, they will manage it.

    Look how Google forced the web to become almost https only just by ranking sites down who didn't provide https. And the sites were complaining how much cpu load they would have when they provided https. Still it seems to work to provide https now.

    AI tools are here to stay. People do not go to Google to type "What did Trump do today?" anymore. They go to their favorite AI assistant. And if you want clicks on your site, y

  • It's not just news, it's also review sites.

    Zoom Player has been in development for 25 years, over that time it received quite a few awards from software review sites.

    Recently, I went back to my awards page and except for a few major sites, the majority are gone.

    I performed a Semrush back-link/referring-domain site check and over the past year, even though my site received more traffic due to my increased activity, the back links and linking sites dropped 80%. For newer and ultra-popular software like OBS Studio, the drop is not as massive, about 15% less referring domains and 25% drop in back-links.

    The internet is disappearing.

  • If something new happens, how do you know to ask AI about it? This is only going to worsen the people who live in echo chambers. since AI isn't NEWS, it is trying to tell you what you want to hear.
  • I visit news.google.com regularly. It is customizable to show topics that I am interested in.
    It includes links to all of the sources and more significantly, it does not have any "AI summaries"
    Hopefully it will remain that way and avoid the enshittification of AI.

  • They don't just go to news web sites?

    Did people forget how to internet? Because it sounds like they forgot how to internet.

    • I think you are confusing procedure with results. When someone searched on Google previously, if the answer was on news sites, that was the first few answers. A user could then click to go to the news site. These days, the first result is AI generated; however, the answer may not be correct. Then Google puts YouTube videos at the top of search results. The next few links might link to a news site, but news sites have been pushed down the page.

      Of course a user could start on a news site; many news site' Sear

      • by hawk ( 1151 )

        the -video: option surpasses not only those junk videos, but also the ai garbage.

  • It was the "news" sites that did it to themselves.

    The quality of what passes for "journalism" these days is pretty dog shit - 90% of the articles on big name news sites (CNN, CTV etc...) don't even provide actual information, they just sanctimoniously tell you how to feel about something, without providing the relevant details that would allow you to come to your own conclusions.

    The vast majority of the current crop of "journalists" should just be outright fired and not allowed to work in the field again, t

  • Ideas anyone? Here's mine.

    This only applies to sites that want the revenue. Sites that just want the exposure would leave things be.

    Anyway, allow websites to require payment from commercial scanning services (search engine or otherwise).

    Enforce through logs and "slightly" poison data for identifiability.

    Use extremely punitive fees to enforce ($250,000 per article, like sharing a movie..., scanned should be a good start, that would quickly get very painful). Get the fines into the 10s of millions. There

    • Or they can go back to showing plain links (and be scanning). It is obvious by what is offered if they are manipulating or summarizing the results.

  • "highly regarded old school bullet-proof publications like Washington Post"

    They may have been highly respected a decade ago. No longer [wikipedia.org].
  • I use DuckDuckGo and it has this little AI thing called "Assist". It doesn't always automatically show an answer, sometimes you press the link. It will provide an answer and usually one or two links to where it sourced the answer. Depending on the question, I don't need any extra information and I never visit the site that provided the information.

    If the contents of a website are protected by copyright, this seems like a copyright violation. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, so maybe I'm totally wrong, but clear

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