CareerBuilder + Monster, Which Once Dominated Online Job Boards, File For Bankruptcy (reuters.com) 31
CareerBuilder + Monster, which once dominated the online recruitment industry, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection this week and said it plans to sell its businesses. From a report: Created through the September merger of CareerBuilder and Monster, the Chicago-based company said it agreed to sell its job board operations, its most recognizable business, to JobGet, which has an app for so-called gig workers.
Where's The New Hotness? (Score:5, Interesting)
So, where does everyone go now? Is there a single best choice, or is it just a fractured mess of AI spamming AI sites now?
Re:Where's The New Hotness? (Score:5, Informative)
Indeed, LinkedIn, ZipRecruiter and the dozens and dozens of other affiliate, clone, mirror, white labelled sites that operate today. It's a real mess out there.
Feels like job hiring has gone the way as travel bookings with Sabre where you have a couple big database systems with the actual information and then dozens of sites that just provide front ends for the same group of listings.
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I know that jackass is your first language, but perhaps you should spend some time boning up on English. Work ethic has no correlation with wanting a canonical list of openings.
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How many miles through the snow did you have to walk to get to that HR office?
I question your work ethnic for not updating (Score:5, Interesting)
Also, you're assuming people aren't asking everyone they know. Everyone I know is. Here's the thing...you only know people you know...and people in top jobs?...they don't socialize a lot....big tech employers do what they can to isolate their employees. It's not like the late 90s where you'd meet them at conferences.
Everyone I know from top employers I know by accident, or they're former coworkers....I was very active in the open source scene local user groups and conferences...I met a lot of people from shit employers there. Once I got a job from a top employer, they stopped paying for me to go to such things and I had to work on proprietary frameworks, so the stuff at conferences and user groups became a lot less relevant....like everyone else who upgraded their employer, I stopped going.
Re:I question your work ethnic for not updating (Score:4, Informative)
If if you meet me at a conference, I dont' know you. I am in no way going to recommend someone I don't know. At best I'd tell you to check our website and see if their are open roles. Honestly if you haven't already done that, I'm not sure I'd want to hire you.
The best way to get a job in tech today is not network and know people, but that takes years of cultivating relationships with people who may or may not help you. Team members who leave, college friends, professors, mentors, etc. The second best way is to have presence. Github repos, give talks, be active on domain specific social media, etc.
Even with all that you are still going to strugle in this market. Three years ago I could have found a new job by simply posting on linkedin "I'm thinking of a new role" and someone would throw 200-300k at me for existing in my field. Now with 10s of thousands of people who do what I do suddenly on the market, I get someone reaching out every single day to see if I can help them find a role. Job postings have hundreds of qualified applicants in minutes. It's the toughest market of my lifetime for people in technology and security roles.
cost of zero cost in effect (Score:2)
So reducing the cost to post a job to near zero, and reduce the cost to scrape that job from a company's web site is near zero, and reduce the cost to have LinkeIn scrape your profile and auto-apply for the job is near zero,....
The downside for companies is that they have to keep each and every job application, application related email, resume, etc. for anyone who sends one in. That is for federal labor law for 50+ person employers.
It's a no win situation for employers when every job listed has 1000s of a
Re: Where's the work ethic? (Score:3)
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Both methods can get you "a job".
If you want to be a 9-5'er that's fine but outside of the trades that's really unstable work. Pink slips and bankruptcies everywhere.
Work your social networks (family, church, community groups) for opportunities to earn money on your terms, if you can handle it.
Re: Where's the work ethic? (Score:2)
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Oh boy! And after I land that plumb job in the mailroom, I'll work my way up through the company management training program, become a Jr. account executive with my own secretary and order the boys down in the lab to get something going on the company mainframe. Say, where's the pneumatic tube around here, I need to get this inter-office memo out stat!
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I have to think this is intentional boomer-satire.
Newspapers don't exist anymore, not functionally. They haven't for over a decade, and aren't relevant to anyone under 50. Most are now online-only. Tech jobs are not posted there - ever.
"Pound the pavement"? You mean past the biometric double factor authentication required to get into the building and onto the business's floor? Or do you recommend climbing the building and rappelling down the building?
"Call a company or organization" - there's this thing cal
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I've encountered the same which is why I suspect there has been consolidation on the backend, like we have a bunch of data middlemen and all these front end search engine sites. The whole thing feels like a scam sometimes with these no name sites.
An Interesting Tidbit (Score:3)
From the linked article:
CareerBuilder + Monster also agreed to sell its software services business for federal and state governments to Canadian software company Valsoft, and the military.com and fastweb.com websites to Canadian media company Valnet.
I'm wondering what the regime will do once they figure out that Federal and Civilian Military job information is going appear to go to Canada?
Hung by their own AI (Score:2)
Re:Hung by their own AI (Score:5, Funny)
It's your own fault for not getting a masters degree. How can you expect to be hired as a dishwasher with only a bachelors?
Kids today. So entitled.
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and then an real person looks at it and says way to much of an degree for McD.
Can't search for C++ (Score:4, Informative)
Good work guys, and goodbye.
Re:Can't search for C++ (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe "C+=1" works? ;-)
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ADD 1 TO C GIVING C?
you know the letters coming after C :)
Monster.com enables abuse (Score:2, Insightful)
For years, Monster enables scam recruiters, as they offer a subscription fee that gives broad access to data -- that data is traded, sold, abused. Complaints to Monster about this practice have gone unresponded to (no surprise, this is all about revenue, they don't care). So, they can crash and burn. At one point Monster used to be a good place to go, but it quickly became a sesspool, not unliked some others who engage in similar practices under the guise of being a reputable place to find careers.
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This is true for almost all the other sites, as well. LinkedIn certainly does it.
Didn't SlashdotMedia used to have a jobs section? (Score:2)
Come on guys, seize the moment! is your time to shine! :-D /s
Way back when I put my CV on monster... (Score:2)
I wander what JobGet will do with my data, and all the data they have...