Canada Orders Chinese Firm Hikvision To Cease Canadian Operations Over National Security Concerns (reuters.com) 45
The Canadian government has ordered Chinese surveillance camera manufacturer Hikvision to cease operations in Canada over national security concerns, Industry Minister Melanie Joly said late on Friday. From a report: Hikvision, also known as Hangzhou Hikvision Digital Technology Co, has faced numerous sanctions and restrictions by Canada's neighbor, the United States, over the past five and a half years for the firm's dealings and the use of its equipment in China's Xinjiang region, where rights groups have documented abuses against the Uyghur population and other Muslim communities.
"The government has determined that Hikvision Canada's continued operations in Canada would be injurious to Canada's national security," Joly said on X, adding that the decision was taken after a multi-step review of information provided by Canada's security and intelligence community."
"The government has determined that Hikvision Canada's continued operations in Canada would be injurious to Canada's national security," Joly said on X, adding that the decision was taken after a multi-step review of information provided by Canada's security and intelligence community."
Hikvision (Score:5, Funny)
Xinjiang again (Score:1)
That's been thoroughly debunked. Why do they keep this nonsense up.
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China is doing what many people in the UK and US demand - forced integration.
I'm not saying that to excuse China, I'm saying we need to be extremely vigilant and not let it happen here.
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China is doing what many people in the UK and US demand - forced integration. I'm not saying that to excuse China, I'm saying we need to be extremely vigilant and not let it happen here.
Huh? Forced? What are you referring to?
The "melting pot" was voluntary. People coming here wanting to become Americans, not balkanize into isolated communities forever. The latter is a more recent trend, a silly and false conflation of melting pot with colonialization. In short, we blend, we don't annihilate the old. Especially in one's home or church/temple/mosque/etc.
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Hasn't the Trump administration just made the official language English, and deleted all the Spanish language material from the White House website?
I've seen comments from people on both sides of the pond about speaking English.
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Hasn't the Trump administration just made the official language English, and deleted all the Spanish language material from the White House website?
Learning English is part of the naturalization process, part of the melting pot. And no one is prevented from speaking a different language on the street, in their home, in their religious institution, etc. Going back to the 1930s my great grandfather spoke his native language in his house and had a picture of his old king on wall. On the street, at work, he spoke English (with an accent). When my grandfather served during WW2, my great-grandfather hoped he wouldn't have to shoot any relatives but understoo
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Slightly off-topic, but I think you are doing a bit of sophistry here by making a difference with the USA vs the individual states before they formed a union. Many local cultures and languages were extinguished and even nowadays, in some states that were conquered from Mexico, natives are being told to "speak white". The USA is not the hero you make it out to be. It's not like it never had concentration camps either. Sure, the scale and when it happened are different...
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Slightly off-topic, but I think you are doing a bit of sophistry here by making a difference with the USA vs the individual states before they formed a union.
I think that would be fair given we were at the time ruled by a British King and his Royal Governors. That today Americans are guided by the concepts born of the revolt against this King and his Governors. We certainly didn't fully live up to these ideas for much of our history but they remain a product of our revolution.
Many local cultures and languages were extinguished and even nowadays, in some states that were conquered from Mexico, natives are being told to "speak white".
Outside of a university class I never heard that phrase. "Speak English", sure. An asshole doing so is quite different from having a national language and publications in that language, and
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I think that is a fair and self-consistent point of view. I don't necessarily agree with it as a whole, but I do appreciate you took the time to expand on your position.
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I think that is a fair and self-consistent point of view. I don't necessarily agree with it as a whole, but I do appreciate you took the time to expand on your position.
Perhaps you'd prefer Winston Churchill's insightful comment: "You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, after they've tried everything else." :-)
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Right... you came to America because of "Freedom!" and all that... that doesn't mean only choose to learn enough English to get what you want and form your own expanding community where you take over an area with your five children and husband in a two bedroom apartment (because three of the kids float between your fellow neighbors so you can beat the system) that used to be decent cheap housing for everyone, your "advocate" fills out all your paperwork to make sure you get everything imaginable down to a n
Melting pot made USA successful ... (Score:2)
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Yes, but when people from someplace (not naming names, not starting a whole thing, no ONE country is guilty of it) come over, and just take over a whole corner, including chasing away a Vietnamese grocery and making it their own grocery, buying a former gas station just to have a tea shop, buying a former successful bar and brewery (making it a restaurant) and setting up a gas station down from the former bar (which was an insurance place)... all just so they have places to hang out... that's not fitting in
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Honestly, you were doing pretty good until this part: "Israel left Gaza. Gaza had self rule."
I'll ask 3 simple questions, could the Gaza people (Gazaians?):
1. Come and go as they pleased, including in and out of Gaza?
2. Import any needed material and food stock ?
3. Accept international aid and be part of international treaties?
Unless you respond to the affirmative to these three questions, I don't see how "Gaza had self rule." can be factually true.
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Honestly, you were doing pretty good until this part: "Israel left Gaza. Gaza had self rule."
I'll ask 3 simple questions, could the Gaza people (Gazaians?): 1. Come and go as they pleased, including in and out of Gaza?
Yes, to both Israel and Egypt. They needed a passport for Israel, not sure about Egypt..
2. Import any needed material and food stock ?
Yes, but Israel had to be informed and inspect imports. There was a bit a weapons smuggling going on.
3. Accept international aid and be part of international treaties?
Yes, there was much international aid. Which Hamas intercepted, diverted, and at times militarized. For example water pipes being ripped from city streets to make ad hoc missiles. That started as humanitarian aid.
Some humanitarian aid was actually Israeli. Electricity, water, sewage, etc.
Unless you respond to the affirmative to these three questions,
Knock off the self important tw
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I asked questions which have answer easily verifiable.
1-2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] . I guess you could argue that since there is also the Egyptian side, it does not count. But we were discussing this in context of Israel here.
3. While this has nothing to do with Israel really, it does argue to the self-determination point. I'll give this one to you.
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I asked questions which have answer easily verifiable.
1-2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] . I guess you could argue that since there is also the Egyptian side, it does not count. But we were discussing this in context of Israel here.
As your citation indicates. There are also Israeli controlled crossings. And these crossing are regulated like many international borders. Passports, baggage inspections, etc.
Also the blockade is not to prevent aid and supplies, it is to make sure all is closely inspected for contraband such as weapons. There is not an absolute prevention of trade as with WW2 Japan. It's a requirement for heavily inspected trade.
If you want to argue great inconveniences, of Israel having legal jurisdiction over some m
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Also the blockade is not to prevent aid and supplies, it is to make sure all is closely inspected for contraband such as weapons.
The snowden cable leaks revealed Israels stated intent to the USA was to crush any form of normal economy and to make them "tighten their belts" without crossing into mass starvation territory. Keeping them hungry.
With those goals in mind they achieved them quite well. Full dependence on Israel's mercy, without the resources to further their lot in life, slowly starving and being killed off.
Not that anyone would have the will to do so, but if the same style blockade were done to Israel (no military leaving
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The snowden cable leaks revealed Israels stated intent to the USA was to ...
Source?
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... but if the same style blockade were done to Israel (no military leaving the country, no iron/steel/construction materials, no control over water/resources, food imports limited based on population, farmlands destroyed by air) do you think they'd be fine with that? (not original responder)
The Israeli military did leave.
Construction material was imported, then stolen by Hamas to build tunnels. Material that actually went into infrastructure, for example some water pipes, were dug up by Hamas to make home made rockets.
Gaza farms were fine before the currently military campaign in response to Oct.
What Israel did destroy before leaving were Israeli illegal settlements in Gaza.
Don't conflate post-Oct 7 with pre-Oct 7.
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The Israeli military did leave.
Yes, which wasn't what I was suggesting, I was suggesting keeping the IDF within israels borders (not leaving israel)
Construction material was imported, then stolen by Hamas to build tunnels. Material that actually went into infrastructure, for example some water pipes, were dug up by Hamas to make home made rockets.
Just like how compressed air cylinders in hospitals had to be manually shot up/destroyed after capture by the israelis because hamas might use medical equipment? Anything of use by civilization can be repurposed tools and materials are tools and materials.
Gaza farms were fine before the currently military campaign in response to Oct.
Since the 1967 war israel has had full control [amnesty.org] of their water resources, farms having water access removed has happened long before oct 7
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Just like how compressed air cylinders in hospitals had to be manually shot up/destroyed after capture by the israelis because hamas might use medical equipment? Anything of use by civilization can be repurposed tools and materials are tools and materials.
Yes dual use. Improvised bombs and incendiaries. When someone attacks you look at dual use items more suspiciously. Especially a hospital that Hamas has constricted tunnels underneath. Bad shit happens in war, so don't start one.
Since the 1967 war israel has had full control of their water resources, farms having water access removed has happened long before oct 7 ...
Gaza has water problems due to Hamas (militants in general, going back far enough) mismanagement. They polluted their own aquifers, overuse caused salt water intrusion, ... all sorts of short sighted self harm occurred.
That fact remains that Israel provides a lifeline, to a self-d
Re: Xinjiang again (Score:1)
The technique requires a demon and demonisation and some demonic thing to point at.
Notice itâ(TM)s always structured like this:
1. Sham elections in country C!
2. Mr D is an authoritarian/dictator
3. Look what is happening to the poor people P in region R of country C!
4. We must invade and bring our freedoms to country C!
Anyone has actual info? (Score:3)
What's the actual risk posed by this hardware in a well isolated vlan with no internet access?
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Assuming the answer to you question is "None":
How often to the end-users properly isolate the camera?
I don't think "If used properly, but not in the way most people use it" is a good argument.
Canada should be able to trust what it buys (Score:3)
What's the actual risk posed by this hardware in a well isolated vlan with no internet access?
Canada should not be forced to go to such extremes to protect itself from the equipment it is buying.
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If you are really paranoid there might be ways to remotely enable WiFi or something, but it's unlikely. For domestic use there really is no issue, it's only high security stuff where you might think twice.
They have good optics and cameras, and you can find modified firmwares to enable extra features. Since some countries got paranoid there have been plenty of them cheap on the used market too.
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In an isolated install, no risk really.. unless there is a remote way to control the cameras via optical signals.
But in a majority of installs... it's not on a vlan... and has internet and full network access as people want to be able to access the feeds remotely.
The threat comes from several things- if the user can access the feed remotely, so can the company... which presents a few issues- from direct monitoring, to getting access, to getting leverage on someone. Then the fact the device is on the networ
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More of the same baseless fear mongering with zero evidence from the US, it's only unfortunate that Canada follows along instead of making its own decisions. The US lost any credibility after Iraq, any kind of policy shift should require more than "trust me bro".
CCP can't be trusted (Score:2)
Doctor who defected to U.S. says Chinese scientists trained to steal U.S. lab research for Beijing
https://x.com/JustTheNews/stat... [x.com]
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