'Sony is Still Stubborn About the Size of Its Cameras' (theverge.com) 27
Sony removed the tiltable screen from its new RX1R III full-frame compact camera to maintain similar dimensions to the previous model, despite adding numerous new features and charging $5,100 for the device, The Verge reports.
The company increased the camera's size by only 2.5mm in height and 15.5mm in depth while incorporating the high-resolution sensor from the A7R V, Sony's latest autofocus tracking system, a longer-lasting battery, and a proper electronic viewfinder. Sony integrated the top dials and hot shoe into the body for a sleeker appearance. The camera's compact design prevents the inclusion of lens or sensor-based image stabilization. The Verge points out that Leica also added a tilt screen to its Q3 model after users requested the feature, despite the design compromise required.
The company increased the camera's size by only 2.5mm in height and 15.5mm in depth while incorporating the high-resolution sensor from the A7R V, Sony's latest autofocus tracking system, a longer-lasting battery, and a proper electronic viewfinder. Sony integrated the top dials and hot shoe into the body for a sleeker appearance. The camera's compact design prevents the inclusion of lens or sensor-based image stabilization. The Verge points out that Leica also added a tilt screen to its Q3 model after users requested the feature, despite the design compromise required.
"hot shoe" (Score:2, Funny)
Gesundheit.
Article is register-walled (Score:1)
at least it is in my neck of the IP woods.
Re:Article is register-walled (Score:4, Interesting)
Nope, no registration needed. Problem must be on your side.
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Can I come visit you? I promise I won't snore.
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Compact Camera (Score:2)
"Sony didn't make its compact camera bigger. Waaaahhh."
Imagine just buying the bigger camera.
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Indeed, the people complaining don't understand the niche this camera occupies.
Many photographers would probably want the a6700 or a7c if they need a fuller-featured camera.
This one is about being compact and simple. It occupies a similar slot as Leica's fixed-lens cameras, or for a less expensive variety, a Ricoh GR. You go with this camera when size is important, when you want to take a nice camera into a venue that doesn't allow interchangable lens cameras (concerts/etc.). Or, if you've got money to burn
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Pricey for a dumbed down camera though. I don't fully get that.
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The point is, it's not dumbed down. It's full frame, has a viewfinder, an F2 lens, excellent autofocus, hot shoe and manual controls.
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In my opinion, the "money to burn" comment most accurately describes this camera.
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Since it doesn't solve a problem you either have or understand, I can see why.
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I can see that you like to spout about things you don't know.
Alternate headline: (Score:2)
User being whiny bitch about product not meeting their specific requirements despite being targeted at someone else.
Seriously this is nothing more than whining about a Sony camera not being a different camera. If the size isn't important to you then you bought the wrong one. Suck it up buttercup and change systems. Switch to the camera you so clearly wish you bought instead, and let the Sony users enjoy their cameras.
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But if you're buying a $5,000 camera I'm going to say it's probably got a bunch of other features besides the size.
Meaning you probably can't just buy another camera and get everything you want out of it. That's probably especially true because these kind of high-end digital cameras have been losing mark
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I think these are "prosumer" models. Not the real high end professional stuff, more aimed at amateurs and hobbyists who are willing to sink a lot of money into their hobby.
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But if you're buying a $5,000 camera I'm going to say it's probably got a bunch of other features besides the size.
Sony on a system level has always prioritised size over functionality. It was one of the primary selling points on a company and system level. If you wanted functionality beyond just size then you should have been looking to a completely different manufacturer. Even now you look on the website of the A7C and their biggest selling point is the proud declaration of it being the world's smallest and lightest full frame camera. Across most of their lineup size is a primary selling point.
Different companies have
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I looked and Sony has at least 8 "full size" cameras for sale. This new one seems targeted towards a niche called street photography, where you don't want to be walking around looking like a news crew. So yeah, user bought the wrong camera and thinks others will share their misplaced outrage.
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An in street photography, it's not uncommon to play around with different angles: shooting from street level, shooting from as high as your arm can reach, selfies. For these situations, a fold-n-flip screen is quite useful and, in some instances, necessary for proper framing.
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Sony's "full size" cameras also very much prioritise size. They proudly advertise size over function everywhere. Look at the A7C's website and literally the first talking point you see is that it's "the world's smallest full frame camera".
A common problem with consequences (Score:3)
This kind of reviews, where lack of specific features are treated as negatives instead of focusing on the positive, has had consequences for camera design. For example, there hasn't been a small ILC 4/3 camera with a viewfinder since the Palasonic Lumix GM5 in 2014 because reviewers complained that it had a dim and cramped viewfinder. That such a small camera even comes with a viewfinder at all is a game changer, even if the viewfinder is not the best, but manufacturers will avoid that kind of negative reviews so there aren't any new such cameras being made.
To have a really tiny full frame camera with a good integrated lens which is that small is magnificent. It fills a usecase no other camera fills. And thanks to reviews of this kind, releases of such cameras is a rarity. It's a real shame that megativity gets more clicks than focusing on the good aspects of something.
Sony & Leica have made these for over 10 years (Score:2)
To have a really tiny full frame camera with a good integrated lens which is that small is magnificent. It fills a usecase no other camera fills. And thanks to reviews of this kind, releases of such cameras is a rarity. It's a real shame that megativity gets more clicks than focusing on the good aspects of something.
Sony and Leica have been making compact full frames with fixed lenses for over 10 years. It's not new, but that price is very shocking for such a shitty camera. Also, a good example would be if GM was making an extremely expensive and borderline useless car that competes with a Lexus at 1/3 the cost. This is a bafflingly shitty camera.
It's honestly not that small and their past models had much smaller lenses that were less conspicuous. 5k will buy you an extremely nice Sony FF with a premium lens..
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Who makes a camera which better solves the same problem? Pocketable full frame with a fix lens. Sony doesn't have any other which do, except an over ten years old previous model. Leica has some, and they cost even more. Nobody else has anything.
The zv-e10 received a large size upgrade (Score:1)