Citizen Lab Director Warns Cyber Industry About US Authoritarian Descent (techcrunch.com) 101
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: Ron Deibert, the director of Citizen Lab, one of the most prominent organizations investigating government spyware abuses, is sounding the alarm to the cybersecurity community and asking them to step up and join the fight against authoritarianism. On Wednesday, Deibert will deliver a keynote at the Black Hat cybersecurity conference in Las Vegas, one of the largest gatherings of information security professionals of the year. Ahead of his talk, Deibert told TechCrunch that he plans to speak about what he describes as a "descent into a kind of fusion of tech and fascism," and the role that the Big Tech platforms are playing, and "propelling forward a really frightening type of collective insecurity that isn't typically addressed by this crowd, this community, as a cybersecurity problem."
Deibert described the recent political events in the United States as a "dramatic descent into authoritarianism," but one that the cybersecurity community can help defend against. "I think alarm bells need to be rung for this community that, at the very least, they should be aware of what's going on and hopefully they can not contribute to it, if not help reverse it," Deibert told TechCrunch. [...] "I think that there comes a point at which you have to recognize that the landscape is changing around you, and the security problems you set out for yourselves are maybe trivial in light of the broader context and the insecurities that are being propelled forward in the absence of proper checks and balances and oversight, which are deteriorating," said Deibert.
Deibert is also concerned that big companies like Meta, Google, and Apple could take a step back in their efforts to fight against government spyware -- sometimes referred to as "commercial" or "mercenary" spyware -- by gutting their threat intelligence teams. [...] Deibert believes there is a "huge market failure when it comes to cybersecurity for global civil society," a part of the population that generally cannot afford to get help from big security companies that typically serve governments and corporate clients. "This market failure is going to get more acute as supporting institutions evaporate and attacks on civil society amplify," he said. "Whatever they can do to contribute to offset this market failure (e.g., pro bono work) will be essential to the future of liberal democracy worldwide," he said. Deibert is concerned that these threat intelligence teams could be cut or at least reduced, given that the same companies have cut their moderation and safety teams. He told TechCrunch that threat intelligence teams, like the ones at Meta, are doing "amazing work," in part by staying siloed and separate from the commercial arms of their wider organizations. "But the question is how long will that last?" said Deibert.
Deibert described the recent political events in the United States as a "dramatic descent into authoritarianism," but one that the cybersecurity community can help defend against. "I think alarm bells need to be rung for this community that, at the very least, they should be aware of what's going on and hopefully they can not contribute to it, if not help reverse it," Deibert told TechCrunch. [...] "I think that there comes a point at which you have to recognize that the landscape is changing around you, and the security problems you set out for yourselves are maybe trivial in light of the broader context and the insecurities that are being propelled forward in the absence of proper checks and balances and oversight, which are deteriorating," said Deibert.
Deibert is also concerned that big companies like Meta, Google, and Apple could take a step back in their efforts to fight against government spyware -- sometimes referred to as "commercial" or "mercenary" spyware -- by gutting their threat intelligence teams. [...] Deibert believes there is a "huge market failure when it comes to cybersecurity for global civil society," a part of the population that generally cannot afford to get help from big security companies that typically serve governments and corporate clients. "This market failure is going to get more acute as supporting institutions evaporate and attacks on civil society amplify," he said. "Whatever they can do to contribute to offset this market failure (e.g., pro bono work) will be essential to the future of liberal democracy worldwide," he said. Deibert is concerned that these threat intelligence teams could be cut or at least reduced, given that the same companies have cut their moderation and safety teams. He told TechCrunch that threat intelligence teams, like the ones at Meta, are doing "amazing work," in part by staying siloed and separate from the commercial arms of their wider organizations. "But the question is how long will that last?" said Deibert.
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And this AC, even if trolling, exemplifies the kind of people that cheer on tyrants, always believing that only the people they hate will be targets.
Re:"The Beating of a Liberal" (Score:5, Insightful)
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False equivalence... democracy-autocracy is a scale, and there's a difference between having a persistent cough that pesters your day and having to be intubated because you can't breath and your O2 is dropping. And now technology is opening new avenues for totalitarianism than the Stasi could have ever dreamed of.
You can actually tell quite often tell by the name of the country, and if they are susceptible to totalitarianism because it tries to tell you.
Peoples republic of China
Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea
The United States of America
Re:"The Beating of a Liberal" (Score:4, Informative)
Will DC be federalized? Not wholly, I doubt. The whole idea is very non-legal and non-constitutional, which makes it either very unlikely, or especially dangerous, depending on how you look at it.
But it certainly seems to be the general direction in which Trumps wants to go - whatever he says, goes. He really assumes that he knows what to do about everything and should be allowed to do it.
Re:"The Beating of a Liberal" (Score:4, Interesting)
Non-constitutional has no meaning to him. He already stated that he doesn't know if he has to abide by the constitution
6 members of SCOTUS have already made him king. I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to void the 22nd amendment in one of their rulings.
Re:"The Beating of a Liberal" (Score:5, Insightful)
Trump doesn't appear to be acting any different
Oh come on, you're going too far here. Of course it's different, Trump actually does make that phone call. He does pardon his lackeys. He does use his position to enrich himself and attack people who criticize him. It's not just threats, not just promises, not worrying about things that he might do. This is drastically different from previous presidents.
If you're trying to criticize the fact that the executive branch has been acting with greater autonomy... sure. It's hardly insightful, but partisanship has been increasing and our government has been getting increasingly dysfunctional ever since the Contract with America. This is a much-discussed fact that I think everyone knows by now. Working with congress requires some degree of willingness to cooperate, and that has been dwindling.
Trump, of course, takes this to an extreme. In principle he could and should be working with a fully cooperative congress right now, with all branches controlled by his party. Instead he mostly ignores congress, and threatens them when the senate won't immediately rubber-stamp his sycophants.
This is one of the paths of a dictator. First you join a political party and do everything you can to silence the opposition. That's step one. Step two is to silence your own party. Dictators do this because parties are people who work together for common goals or ideologies, and Dictators have no ideology and only one goal.
And finally, if we're just idly wishing for things, the executive branch can't be dialed back. The executive branch is the branch that actually does things. Doing things is important. But, that said, I don't see why we need a president.
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Has everyone forgotten Biden already? It's been only 6 months!
No one forgot about Biden. We all remember what having a decent human being who is honest was like. The only thing we have to compare to now is an orange, whiny, narcissistic douchebag that is riddled with dementia.
You do understand trump ignores 1 out of 3 court orders?? [independent.co.uk] He is a lawless, child raping criminal that ruins everything he touches. Try both sides-ing that!
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Have you forgotten Biden already?
I think it's really remarkable how effectively right-wing media got people to hate Biden. The most boring of presidents. I only heard a few of the accusations against him, which ranged from molesting children (ironic!) to accepting bribes (also ironic!), but nothing was substantiated and the Republican-run investigatory committee ultimately had to admit that they had found no evidence of wrongdoing. Eventually. Then they made some more accusations, because that's what they do.
Under other circumstances th
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Your critique is pointless. The hatred comes from the consequences of Trump's actions, all of the harm that he causes and all of of the many many people that he hurts. If you believe that Biden is similar, and you don't hate him, then you are someone who lacks empathy. I do no
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You are a bullshit troll who should be ashamed to post such tripe.
I hope your time in hell is satisfactory.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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I think it's really remarkable how effectively right-wing media got people to hate Biden.
Hate Biden? I don't hate Biden. More like disappointed.
I was going to post more but decided to delete it since I realized how much the conversation was veering off the point on the history of Presidents exceeding the limits of their office and getting away with it. Dictatorial authority from the Oval Office has been something of a norm as Congress has been allowing more and more decisions to be made in the executive branch. Obama and Biden were hardly innocent of acting like dictators and having nothing
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The number of times courts have ruled against Trump is more an indication of how many lawsuits were submitted than anything. This is "lawfare", the use of the courts to wage a battle with political and/or economic ends.
What Trump's opposition has done is gone "judge shopping" by looking for circuit courts that have a high probability of finding a judge with political ambitions or tendencies against Trump. This is an abuse of the system as the matters being decided will have national implications, as oppos
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Why not take Biden to court? (Score:1)
If Biden was doing things contrary to the. Constitution than why did the Republicans not being him to court?
One guess I could make is because once it was clear to the Republicans that Biden wasn't going to remain in office for another term any court process to remove him from office was pointless. Biden already removed himself from a second term, and any court proceedings would almost certainly drag on beyond the end of his term, so taking Biden to court would cost money that didn't need to be spent, and could have political ramifications as it could be spun as Republicans picking on an old man that was on his w
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I'm thinking you are hallucinating. I don't follow how your reply relates to the comment being replied to.
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Trump attacks Biden all the time. Trump refers to "Biden's war", "the Biden economy", and so much else he as POTUS has to deal with because Biden left a mess. You expect his attacks to be made in the courts? Why bother when as POTUS he can get all the attention he needs to attack Biden.
You think Trump wants to take Biden's money in a lawsuit? Trump doesn't need anyone's money.
You think Trump wants Biden in jail? What's the point of locking up an 80+ year old senile man?
You think Trump wants Biden humil
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Oh come on, you're going too far here. Of course it's different, Trump actually does make that phone call. He does pardon his lackeys. He does use his position to enrich himself and attack people who criticize him. It's not just threats, not just promises, not worrying about things that he might do. This is drastically different from previous presidents.
Have you forgotten Biden already? And Obama? Or unaware of how Presidents have acted for the last century?
Some examples would help, if you have any. President Truman oversaw an undeclared war in Korea. Kennedy and Johnson in Vietnam. Nixon's secret bombing of Cambodia. George W Bush started wars in Afghanistan and Iraq without a declaration of war, just a wishy-washy "Authorization for Use Of Force" from Congress. Obama killed an American citizen with a drone strike, violating the Fifth and Sixth Amendments (and arguably t
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he was also caught having sex with someone he was not married to. This person was another man but
Even if it was a woman, that's still against the UCMJ and wouldn't be the first time that an officer has received a dismissal over it. And yes, officers are held to a higher standard than enlisted. I can't say I've ever heard of anybody getting anything (whether it's a building, a ship, a post, etc) named after they did anything like that. Most commonly, those are named after people who died in combat.
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Clinton was impeached and censured for behaviors that could be considered just as disrespectful of an office in command of those in military uniform as Milk's behaviors were considered disrespectful of an office in command of those in military uniform. Memorializing Milk with his name on a ship was considered inappropriate as his behaviors were not the kind of model we'd want those in uniform to emulate. Much the same could be said of Clinton, he failed to act in ways we'd expect those in uniform to emula
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Plenty of couples cannot have children, and are allowed to marry. Unless you want to ban infertile heterosexual couples from marrying, this is a bizarre point.
The twisted logic bigots have to apply.
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Plenty of couples cannot have children, and are allowed to marry. Unless you want to ban infertile heterosexual couples from marrying, this is a bizarre point.
I addressed that already in my previous comment. That's the "too long, didn't read" or "bottom line up front", those that still need clarification can keep reading.
If infertile couples wish to marry then we can call that a "civil union" or whatever as a kind of "conditional marriage" like we'd hold to same sex couples. This is something of an extension of the idea of "consummating" a marriage, as in undergoing the biological process required for producing children. I'd only extend that same concept to th
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You can certainly write a lot of verbiage to mask the bigotry, that is for certain. You seem to think you can win debates by typing endlessly and using ChatGPT to increase the number of words.
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Civil union vs. marriage (Score:1)
You can't say couples should have a different kind of union because they have what is essentially a health problem.
That's not what I'm proposing. I propose any adult couple (perhaps with exceptions like close blood relations) that wants some legal contract on record to afford certain rights can enter a civil union. This civil union contract "matures" into a marriage once there's children involved, presumably the biological children of the two people in the union but that could also happen as a matter of adoption, again I can debate where to draw specific distinctions.
The government has the expectation of marriage to p
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the state of being united to a person as spouse in a legal, consensual, and contractual relationship recognized and sanctioned by and dissolvable only by law .
I don't know what kind of cult you belong to, but it says nothing about children. Also your suggestion that governments track people's lives that closely would not only be extremely expensive, but would be rife with abuse and is about the most Orwellian thing I have ever seen here.
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Definition of marriage:
the state of being united to a person as spouse in a legal, consensual, and contractual relationship recognized and sanctioned by and dissolvable only by law .
I don't know what kind of cult you belong to, but it says nothing about children.
What you gave as a definition doesn't tell you why marriage is defined that way, how it is intended to work in practice, or so much else. Have you heard of "Chesterton's fence"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
"Chesterton's fence" is the principle that reforms should not be made until the reasoning behind the existing state of affairs is understood. The quotation is from Chesterton's 1929 book, The Thing: Why I Am a Catholic, in the chapter, "The Drift from Domesticity":
In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, "I don't see the use of this; let us clear it away." To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: "If you don't see the use of it, I certainly won't let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it."
We have people wanting to redefine marriage to include same sex couples without understanding why marriage has been exclusive to opposite sex couples for thousands of years of written history. In some cultures there's been same sex couples that have had some similarity to marriages but they were
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is seen as something to be considered not quite the same as the "rights" afforded to opposite sex couples then we could make adjustments to the laws, and expectations of behavior within those laws, to even things out as much as we can.
True if we make laws to make things different then we can in fact make things different.
Make me the case though, it's been 10 years since Obergefell, it seems to work just fine, the sky is not falling, the administrative burden seems minimal, taxes are filed, marriages are recognized.
Before then it was the positive claim side that had to make the sell for change. Now it's flipped, you're the one wanting to change things, the "progressive" if one might put a word to it. Why?
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Since when did gays not have equal rights?
That's such as obviously ignorant question that you can't possibly mean it, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Viz: In the American Colonies, homosexual behavior was often a capital crime [deathpenaltyinfo.org]: "In 1636, the Plymouth Colony wrote a simple list of 'Capitall offenses lyable (sic) to death' that included sodomy, treason, witchcraft, arson, rape, murder, bestiality, and adultery. In 1641, the Massachusetts Bay Colony adopted the Body of La
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[Woeful Countenance again, anonymous to preserve moderations.]
Um, your username is showing.
"In 2003, the United States Supreme Court agreed to hear the case of Lawrence v. Texas. Police arrested Mr. Lawrence and Mr. Garner and both men were later convicted of violating a Texas statute forbidding two people of the same sex from engaging in certain sexual behaviors. In a 6-3 opinion authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy, the Court held that Texas' statute was unconstitutional. "
Gays were not allowed to serve in the US military, the CIA, or the FBI, and were prohibited from being teachers.
So that's when gays did not have equal rights.
The question was on how we'd see gays not have equal rights today and how far back in time that would have gone. There should be no doubt that
If SCOTUS killed laws that would be used against gays in 2003 then that does show the courts are protecting rights of gays. I'm not sure this is a "right" in how it is generally understood but I'll leave the splitting of hairs with that.
Then is the "don't ask, don't tell" policy that ended in 2011, and with that the military was opened u
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Yep. It is this type pf person that is responsible for most of the death and misery in the world. Without them all the dictators would just be crazy assholes nobody cares about. Although these people are typically not smart enough to connect the dots. Dump-evil, essentially.
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They'd rather flush the greatest democracy ever down the toilet than let gays have equal rights or women get abortions or whatever the hell is woke this week. .
AKA hate is more important than love to them.
The troll wins again (Score:2)
At least that's how the troll scores it. Around 20 comments with the BS Subject is the closest the troll has ever come to winning.
Butterflies with nuclear weapons? (Score:2)
Please don't propagate sock puppet Subjects.
Anyway:
Ma Nature is strong. We humans are rather like the stupid butterflies whose little wings sometimes accidentally trigger tornadoes or hurricanes.
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"I have this imagined world where marines and liberals are two distinct circles on a venn diagram"
tell us all about how your military experience comes from watching a screen while sitting on a couch
What, no comments??? (Score:2)
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Maybe this is a troll but if so then TFA and Submission is as well because he's right. There is no evil authoritarian takeover of government.
The POTUS has accepted supreme court loses, has negotiated in good faith and delivered outstanding performing considering how bad the economy was, has done excellent things with immigration in a humane and careful way. I wish they'd be more aggressive.
The guy isn't even canning the fed chairman who is ignoring the economic data and refusing to cut rates as a political
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Conservative tears? Tears of joy because we are winning just about everywhere, the policies you said would destroy our way of life are resulting in a booming economy and improvements across the board, or maybe I'm just so depressed that our majority is doing nothing but gaining momentum.
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"Cutting interest rates stimulates the economy, which can be good if GDP growth is too slow or unemployment is too high. Cutting interest rates when the economy is growing will create inflation."
Raising rates slows growth but can help counteract inflationary forces. Lowering rates encourages growth but risks inflation. We currently have high rates because of the high inflation we had under Biden. The economy is showing signs of improvement but that doesn't mean the damage is all healed and we are as strong
What's happening is pretty unfortunate (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm a political independent who has friends who are Republicans. I try to stay in the middle. But regardless of what you think, the idea that masked men without badges and uniforms can smash car windows and drag people out should really disturb anyone. I am really surprised it hasn't gotten violent.
Now you have someone fired for reporting labor statistics that the President of the USA doesn't like. The President is trying to take control over large segements of our democracy, universities, sports organizations, television networks, newspapers, courts, etc. This should concern everyone. Of course don't forget DOGE and how Trump has already stolen all our personal data from multiple federal agencies.
Of course the techbros are all like LOLZ, we're making so much money. I have a pretty large holding in Meta and am considering dumping it. My partner is salivating about Palantir. I can't believe he doesn't understand how dangerous that company is.
Re:What's happening is pretty unfortunate (Score:5, Insightful)
That isn't a real thing.
Parent is partially correct here. They were not masked and did have badges/uniforms when they smashed the windows:
https://www.foxnews.com/politi... [foxnews.com]
Never mind that the data was false
Its public knowledge for how the data is collected and analyzed - https://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/c... [bls.gov]. If its wrong, its been wrong for almost 50 years - across multiple presidents.
They lied to us for at least the past 12yrs
"How sad it must be believing that scientists, historians, scholars, economists, journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty" --> not Neil deGrass Tyson who said it, but, holds relevance here.
You might think that but you are clearly listening to traditional media or bluesky as your primary information sources. MAGA IS the independent middle
This we can agree on has been a major problem for many years. So, in order to enact reform - we can also agree that MAGA will not be utilizing traditional media moving forward. i.e. Most of Fox News will be changing their programming and no longer catering to the MAGA base. Show us who/what your primary information sources are then for MAGA. I am a factual based person and would appreciate new factual information from an independent middle to review.
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"Parent is partially correct here. They were not masked and did have badges/uniforms when they smashed the windows"
Partially correct? They were federal law enforcement agents arresting criminals for violating federal law the majority of the population supports and which is common to every first world nation. Someone having broken a window somewhere to get at a bad guy doesn't support any implication of this claim.
"Its public knowledge for how the data is collected and analyzed - https://www.bls.gov/opub/hom [bls.gov]
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"We were having an intelligent discussion, then you resort to personal attacks. Why?"
Suggesting someone may not be well versed on a topic is not a 'personal attack.'
"a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying"
THIS is a personal attack. It isn't directed at me but all the same.
"- Social media / Truth and X are full of horrible individual biases to be considered a reliable source."
Valid information is innately valid without dependence on the credibility or lack thereof of the so
Re:What's happening is pretty unfortunate (Score:4, Insightful)
That isn't a real thing.
They're transporting ICE agents dressed like Proud Boys in literally the exact same kind of Penske rental truck that the Proud Boys dressed like ICE agents were being transported in, now.
They lied to us for at least the past 12yrs and we formed grassroots information networks to bypass them
You mean toilet research networks?
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"They're transporting ICE agents dressed like Proud Boys in literally the exact same kind of Penske rental truck that the Proud Boys dressed like ICE agents were being transported in, now."
Riiiiigggggghhhhhhttttt
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Oh, you don't have access to the internet? [foxbusiness.com]
Have you ever not been an incompetent clown?
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"Have you ever not been an incompetent clown?"
How bitter ya'll are in your sad defeat. Let me guess, you pushed your kid to destroy their body in support of your political nonsense and are stuck continuing to pretend to believe it to live with yourself?
"Oh, you don't have access to the internet? [foxbusiness.com]"
There is nothing about ICE agents dressing as proud boys or vice versa in that link even if were from a credible source. That's just an article saying ICE made use of rentals when enforcing federal
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There is nothing about ICE agents dressing as proud boys or vice versa in that link even if were from a credible source.
Your brain is cooked. This is the obvious result of making "democrats are pedos" your personality and then finding out Republicans will shut down the government to prevent you from finding out how many of them are pedos. The question is, why are you so pro-pedo?
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Oh and here's your photo, cuck.
https://www.facebook.com/photo... [facebook.com]
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I can prompt AI to generate those with anybody I want jumping out of the back of a penske truck as well but you do know those fake masked fascists staged for political photo ops aren't proud boys or any other conservative group. It's all just part of the propaganda stage by your side of the isle.
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Yeah bro, so compelling. https://imgur.com/a/GbOxKX1 [imgur.com]
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Since when is failing to buy wild conspiracy theories 'trolling?'
This is really getting sad and pathetic... (Score:1, Flamebait)
"Deibert described the recent political events in the United States as a "dramatic descent into authoritarianism," but one that the cybersecurity community can help defend against."
You are falling for a giant trove of bullshit propaganda and spin.
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"Deibert described the recent political events in the United States as a "dramatic descent into authoritarianism," but one that the cybersecurity community can help defend against."
You are falling for a giant trove of bullshit propaganda and spin.
One would think the director at the organization specializing in investigating government abuse would have recognized and acknowledged the blatant psyop that was President Dumbs mental acuity and Vice President Dumbers professional competency, long before it created President Trump.
We got blatant political bias and bullshit fearmongering instead.
not an alarm bell to some (Score:3)
For some 30% of US voters, it is a victory bell. Authoritarianism and fascism isn't some accident that happens in a vacuum. No, there has beem enough popular support to sustain the rhetoric and actions of fascists and bring about their rise to power. These guys aren't going away in 4 years, not without a fight.
Subjective Alarm. (Score:1)
For some 30% of US voters, it is a victory bell. Authoritarianism and fascism isn't some accident that happens in a vacuum. No, there has beem enough popular support to sustain the rhetoric and actions of fascists and bring about their rise to power. These guys aren't going away in 4 years, not without a fight.
Do you know exactly why anyone with a modicum of common sense would call bullshit on your claim? Remembering how it never fucking happened the last time he was in charge.
President Washington was the first one to challenge this “concern”. He declined the third term offer pushed by The People. Now we have laws protecting us from that. Shocking how you conveniently forgot the entire point of the 26th Amendment when speaking about abuses in leadershit. As if President Dementia didn’t qual
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For some 30% of US voters, it is a victory bell. Authoritarianism and fascism isn't some accident that happens in a vacuum. No, there has beem enough popular support to sustain the rhetoric and actions of fascists and bring about their rise to power. These guys aren't going away in 4 years, not without a fight.
Do you know exactly why anyone with a modicum of common sense would call bullshit on your claim? Remembering how it never fucking happened the last time he was in charge.
President Washington was the first one to challenge this “concern”. He declined the third term offer pushed by The People. Now we have laws protecting us from that. Shocking how you conveniently forgot the entire point of the 26th Amendment** when speaking about abuses in leadershit. As if President Dementia didn’t qualify for that before he failed to prove he could lose a fucking primary.
** - Twenty-fifth Amendment, to clarify. The 26th is the next one on the list to be reviewed, since it’s become painfully obvious young minds infected by a lack of real world experience (as in off campus) should not be voting until they can grow an original thought.
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To fascists like yourself the constitution is just something to ignore while you destroy everything good in america. The 26th amendment will be rewritten illegally by trumps extreme court to say only old white men that own land can vote and you must publically declare how great the orange king tard is. You must also kiss his free Saudi jet.
All we can say to those clearly infected with long-TDS is don’t worry. There’s a mental disorder soon coming under your insurance to assist. Your medications will be studied to validate what it takes to pull that amount of trigger warnings out of an ass without hemorrhaging to death.
Sure. We could be “kind” and just sit around and watch modern liberalism eat itself, but Common F. Sense would be blamed for that shit too by the perpetually unaccountable. Funny how Reality ain
Until they repeal it (Score:1)
You want Gun Control - then your for:
* Population Control
* Free Speech Control
* and just about EVERY other "control" of the people you can think of. - PERIOD!
It means no guns - no freedom.
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I'd guess that you have never served in the military and thus have no idea how ridiculous it is to believe that a handful of 2nd Amendment kooks armed with AR-15s can effectively stand up against a modern army.
Re: Until they repeal it (Score:2)
No joke (Score:2)
Come on, we need a joke of some sort. For the funeral.