US President Calls on Intel CEO To Resign Over China Ties (msn.com) 186
President Trump on Thursday called on Intel's CEO to resign because of his past ties to China, the latest challenge for the troubled chip maker. From a report: "The CEO of INTEL is highly CONFLICTED and must resign, immediately. There is no other solution to this problem," Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social Thursday. The president appeared to be referencing Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan's past business dealings in China, which Sen. Tom Cotton (R., Ark.) called out in a letter to the company's board earlier this week.
On Tuesday, Cotton wrote an open letter to Intel's board questioning Tan's ties to the Chinese government, including apparent connections to the country's military and investments in other semiconductor companies. "The new CEO of @intel reportedly has deep ties to the Chinese Communists," Cotton wrote in a post on X accompanying the letter. "U.S. companies who receive government grants should be responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars and adhere to strict security regulations. The board of @Intel owes Congress an explanation."
On Tuesday, Cotton wrote an open letter to Intel's board questioning Tan's ties to the Chinese government, including apparent connections to the country's military and investments in other semiconductor companies. "The new CEO of @intel reportedly has deep ties to the Chinese Communists," Cotton wrote in a post on X accompanying the letter. "U.S. companies who receive government grants should be responsible stewards of taxpayer dollars and adhere to strict security regulations. The board of @Intel owes Congress an explanation."
Micro manager (Score:2, Funny)
The Micro Manager in Chief
Re:Micro manager (Score:5, Interesting)
You can always tell when he writes something compared to one of his stooges. He likes random capitalized words.
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Give the comment a Funny mod because crying doesn't help?
I'm having real troubled understanding how this particular dictator cult continues to function. Now if it was a dick-tator cult, then that might make a bit of linguistic humor sense...
Organized religion tends to be problematic, but these modern dictator cults are going too far when the dictators are not only crazy but crazy with nuclear bombs.
Re:Micro manager (Score:5, Informative)
I'm having real troubled understanding how this particular dictator cult continues to function
50% of the voting population fall on the left side of the intelligence bell-curve. That's a powerful demographic to court and more than enough to keep any fool in power with the help of a little gerrymandering and voter suppression. His entire cabinet is a tribute to proud and confident stupidity, and he himself always speaks on their level of understanding, thus making him a comfort to his base in these confusing times.
Re: Micro manager (Score:4, Informative)
Mail in vote boxes set on fire in Oregon.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/29... [cnn.com]
Illegal mail in vote boxes by one party.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c... [cbsnews.com]
This is on top of:
Voter ID laws, designed to restrict populations less likely to already have the required form of identification.
Closing of polling locations, making voting onerous for populations lacking the means to get to farther polling locations.
Attempts to end mail in voting, again to exclude populations who will otherwise have difficulty voting.
I trust that you are sufficiently proficient with Google that you can do the research yourself on those last three and decide if they have any merit.
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You can always tell when he writes something compared to one of his stooges. He likes random capitalized words.
I often wonder about that. Typing RANDOM words with odd Capitalization is a real pain IN the A$$. Especially on a phone keyboard.
Who's got the time and interest to do such a thing?
I used to get emails from a friend. He'd switch fonts, point sizes, and colors at many points. He loved inserting Bloom County cartoons. It made his emails positively unreadable. And yet it must have taken him three times as long to write them as a normal email. I kept wondering why exactly he put so much effort into making his em
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Maybe Trump just discovered the shift key. Kinda like in the mid-'80s when Mac users discovered fonts and ended up creating 'ransom letter documents' until the novelty wore off.
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He needs the money to finish his dancing hall, which is funny because he can't dance
Pot and Kettle (Score:3)
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Re: Micro manager (Score:2)
Yes, but why do you hate America? I also want to know why you hate puppies.
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and, when will he stop beating puppies? Huh? %^)
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Kristi Noem (our ICE queen) is the one who shoots puppies.
Re: Micro manager (Score:3)
Re: Micro manager (Score:5, Insightful)
The American president has ties to an enemy state military/intelligence. That is from where he used to receive all of his funding. And you call this micro management? People's feelings about Trump are relevant here. He has no right to speak about this. Just because you hate America, doesn't mean he has the right to destroy it.
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We found the retard
Everyone who is still using "retard" as an insult is a piece of shit stem to stern, without a single exception.
who still believes in the thoroughly debunked russian collusion hoax. ^^^^
You maggots never could read [justsecurity.org].
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Trump is really smashing the China now! (Score:4, Insightful)
Like the proverbial dumb elephant in the china shop. Fascinating that there are apparently still people that think he is doing a good job.
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Like the proverbial dumb elephant in the china shop. Fascinating that there are apparently still people that think he is doing a good job.
I don't agree with much that Orange Jeebuz says, but yes, there needs to be an in depth investigation, because at some point it is espionage.
Hell, I needed to report to security if I spoke to a foreign national. It appears that Intel has deep ties to Pooh and his network. And despite what Trump has said, there are other solutions, depending on just what Intel has been sharing with and reporting to the Chinese government. Not many of them very pleasant for those who commit the espionage - if they were co
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there needs to be an in depth investigation, because at some point it is espionage.
Espionage is a problem for a company. Are you implying that they simply appointed a CEO without vetting them first?
Hell, I needed to report to security if I spoke to a foreign national.
Maybe you shouldn't be on the internet here. Hi, please go report you spoke to me, I'm not a US citizen. No you don't need to report every time you speak to a foreign national, you need to report if you discuss specific topics with a foreign national. Either that or you're not following your company policy until you print this comment and submit it to HR.
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Hell, I needed to report to security if I spoke to a foreign national.
Maybe you shouldn't be on the internet here. Hi, please go report you spoke to me, I'm not a US citizen. No you don't need to report every time you speak to a foreign national, you need to report if you discuss specific topics with a foreign national. Either that or you're not following your company policy until you print this comment and submit it to HR.
This has nothing to do with a corporation. You are ignorant of high level security requirements. He does indeed need to report any contact, however brief or casual, on any medium or in person, with any foreign national. (I have held clearances that required exactly this. It's been so many decades ago, that I won't get in trouble for saying that today. But I know that the rules have not changed.)
So, yes, as a matter of fact he DOES need to report that he spoke to you on Slashdot. Well, in your case, not unle
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This has nothing to do with a corporation. You are ignorant of high level security requirements. He does indeed need to report any contact, however brief or casual, on any medium or in person, with any foreign national. (I have held clearances that required exactly this. It's been so many decades ago, that I won't get in trouble for saying that today.
You are correct. To be certain however, I haven't worked there for some 14 years now and the post employment requirements have long run out.
And this is not some onerous requirement. It helps to keep the employee safe. Seldom is there an actual problem. Most reportage is looked at and filed away as inconsequential. Occasionally there might be someone who could put you in a compromising situation, and it is good for you to know, so as to avoid issues.
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This has nothing to do with a corporation. You are ignorant of high level security requirements. He does indeed need to report any contact, however brief or casual, on any medium or in person, with any foreign national. (I have held clearances that required exactly this. It's been so many decades ago, that I won't get in trouble for saying that today. But I know that the rules have not changed.)
I used to know a British/Canadian citizen who worked at Lawrence Livermore labs, alongside many people who undoubtedly had clearances (probably 'Q' clearances). Every time one of those colleagues talked to him, did they have to report it? Every water cooler discussion about common social topics?
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This has nothing to do with a corporation. You are ignorant of high level security requirements. He does indeed need to report any contact, however brief or casual, on any medium or in person, with any foreign national. (I have held clearances that required exactly this. It's been so many decades ago, that I won't get in trouble for saying that today. But I know that the rules have not changed.)
I used to know a British/Canadian citizen who worked at Lawrence Livermore labs, alongside many people who undoubtedly had clearances (probably 'Q' clearances). Every time one of those colleagues talked to him, did they have to report it? Every water cooler discussion about common social topics?
He had to report that he was having conversations regularly with those people. He would report specific conversations that seemed unusual or trying to specifically influence him (ie. to give up info) or put him in a compromising position.
What they are looking for is you getting compromised, especially by surprise. They make you take training classes on how that sometimes happens, but the methods and scenarios can be pretty creative.
The least creative thing I ever heard of was a co-worker who, while visiting
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there needs to be an in depth investigation, because at some point it is espionage.
Espionage is a problem for a company. Are you implying that they simply appointed a CEO without vetting them first?
Apparently not enough. We don't know the timeline either, when and what happened. And the onus is on the person, Not those who do the security investigation. They do what they can, but if a person decides to commit espionage the agents don't get punished
Hell, I needed to report to security if I spoke to a foreign national.
Maybe you shouldn't be on the internet here. Hi, please go report you spoke to me, I'm not a US citizen. No you don't need to report every time you speak to a foreign national, you need to report if you discuss specific topics with a foreign national.
You
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Espionage = revealing state secrets to a foreign power.
I assume that Intel is not alleged to forward state secrets to a foreign government.
So what is the crime here, that Intel makes business with other countries?
Re:Trump is really smashing the China now! (Score:5, Insightful)
If the conflicts of interest Cotton describes (are there charges? indictments?) are enough to consider an American Citizen de-facto disqualified from a CEO position then they have to concede that Trump's conflicts of interests disqualify him to be President.
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You know what, fair enough, I should have expected the conservative "we don't understand hypotheticals or argumentation that isn't literal" person to show up. News for nerds indeed.
Re:Trump is really smashing the China now! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Trump is really smashing the China now! (Score:5, Insightful)
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There are things Trump has done that are kinda sketchy, but if people act like everything he does is somehow a crime when it is not, they just end up with people legitimately say you are lying , or deranged.
Oh yeah the guy who led a plot to overturn the results of the election, stole classified documents and then committed more crimes trying to hide them and when charged instead of standing up for his name instead asked the court for criminal immunity and then dismissed his own cases against him
(something Biden did in fact not do with regards to both himself and his son, did not interfere with either special counsel)
That's why you conservatives are not serious people. You refuse to know any of the facts and a
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Hell, I needed to report to security if I spoke to a foreign national.
If /. counts, you need to do that now.
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If one's bigotry sees most problems caused by non-whites, then Trump is doing a wonderful job.
In related news (Score:4, Interesting)
Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan calls out Trump for his ties to the Kremlin.
And before everyone gets worked up let's ask Grok if Trump has been compromised.
The absence of a smoking gun keeps this issue unresolved. Investigations found suspicious patterns but no conclusive evidence of Trump being directly compromised. Claims from former intelligence officials and defectors are compelling but lack corroboration, and political biases on both sides cloud the debate. Without new, verifiable evidence, the question remains open, with arguments on both sides relying heavily on interpretation rather than fact.
Hell even Grok is suspicious.
Paid/Rewarded source saying what you want to hear (Score:5, Insightful)
Claims from former intelligence officials and defectors are compelling but lack corroboration, ...
Exactly the same argument used as evidence of Iraqi WMD before the invasion. Exactly the same source, a paid/rewarded source telling you what you want to hear, or a source with their own agenda telling you what you want to hear.
It's tough to make a right wing chatbot (Score:3)
It's the old joke, reality has a liberal bias.
Overtime this is going to change because our media is completely captured so gradually chatbots will report unreality.
Every time they try to do it faster though by training the chatbots on right wing media the chatbots immediately become Nazis. Like how you can't use automated tools to censor Nazis because Rep
Give Trump a Gold Statue like Apple head Cook did (Score:5, Insightful)
Obviously, Intel has not kissed Trump's boots enough.
He needs to take a clue from Apple's Tim Cook and present Trump with a Gold icon. That's the proper level of boot-licking.
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Glowing orbs and parades also work.
Re:Give Trump a Gold Statue like Apple head Cook d (Score:5, Insightful)
His followers still aren't bright enough to notice the parallels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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I just think it's a damned shame the Deep State recruited an assassin who couldn't hit water if he shot off a dock.
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Or being one of the companies with so much cash that, as of yet, Trump doesn't have sufficient levers of state in his hand to bring to bear.
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Indeed! Apple also does a lot of business in Jiiihna, both sourcing and selling. But Cook found a way off Tinties radar by being white and/or kissing his ass.
The actual story is that our highly restricted chip company may have secret ties to an enemy nation, and the government is demanding that it cease. National security issue, nothing odd about that. (Didn't they know before? Why now? Also good questions. But doesn't change any outcomes.)
But it's the second part of your message that is fascinating to me. You are suggesting a racist motivation. This makes no sense because the only color any of these players care about is Green. Maybe some non-players who are wa
Cadence was fined just recently (Score:2)
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As if Trumperdink knew what being a "responsible steward" involved...
Mass Hysteria (Score:4, Insightful)
Rule by tweet. Nevermind the law, just do whatever the orange emperor tweets.
How did the right get to the left of the left? (Score:2)
WTF is with people calling Republicans "conservative?" I don't get it. FDR was relatively conservative, next to this guy. No?
Re:How did the right get to the left of the left? (Score:4, Insightful)
Implying the current Republicans are left or right leaves us open for a debate. Honestly, I don't think the current Republican party has an ideology, unless you consider Greed an ideology. They aren't left. They aren't right. They are power-mad, money-hungry, and hell--bent of vengeance against anyone their think of as 'the enemy.' And they see a *LOT* of enemies. Say something negative about them or Trump? Enemy. Say something positive about a Democrat? Enemy. Be female and want rights? Enemy. Be gay? Enemy. Be less than lily white? Enemy. Be less than filthy rich? Enemy. They see enemies everywhere, so I suppose you could add paranoia to their greed and that's the entire basis of their ideology.
Maybe psychosis is a new axis on the political ideological scale?
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They're not to the left. This is what far right politics is. I know some on the right decided to make up some ludicrous definition at one point that right vs left was "freedom vs tyranny" and it looks like you've bought into that wholesale, but it's ludicrously off base and always was.
Is it "conservative"? It's an attempt to return the US to some mismatch of the 1950s... and the 1850s, going that way via a fascist regime that'll remove "undesirables" to get there. There's at least an argument an attempt to
At least Trump is a domain expert (Score:2)
in "conflicts of interest."
This is a good change of pace.
In the past, he's make bold pronouncements on things he doesn't know much about.
I call on Trump to resign (Score:2)
Because Donald Trump is a convicted felon with ties to Epstein and with documented statements about his own sexual assaults on women, he should resign and report to the nearest prison to live out the rest of his life.
Irony (Score:2)
Trump complaining about someone (else) having a conflict of interest.
Make no sense (Score:2)
The assumption that Intel hired a CEO without vetting that person first is... insane.
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Barry Goldwater said it best (Score:2)
Would be considered a radical lefty today and no doubt appalled by what the Republican Party has become: Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken course stems from false notions of equality,
Dear Donnie (Score:2)
Dear Donnie,
Shut the fuck up, you degenerate, child raping sack of shit.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Signed,
- Everyone everywhere
Intel to POTUS: (Score:2)
Intel should tell him to go fuck himself and that the CEO will worry about resigning just as soon as this President worries about resigning over ties to Jeffrey Epstein and his child rape.
Remember the old days of 6 months ago when conservatives would have an embolism over the President daring to tell a private company who should be it's CEO?
Would literally anybody have accepted Joe Biden telling a private company who should and should not be CEO?
Global expert (Score:2)
It's like... (Score:2)
Re:Comrade Trump (Score:5, Insightful)
The merger of authoritarian government with private business is a hall-mark of fascism. Attempts to pretend that Trumpism is not Fascism are quite transparent in their empty dishonesty these days.
Private business subservient under fascism (Score:4, Insightful)
The merger of authoritarian government with private business is a hall-mark of fascism.
No, it's not. That is just the false 1970s soviet propoganda spin on it. Just anti-western propoganda of that era.
In reality, fascism includes no such merger. Quite the opposite actually. Under fascism, private business, industrialists, etc are subservient to the party/dictator just like labor. Fascists will allow labor to have unions, unions under party control. Fascists will allow industrial syndicates to form, under party control. Everyone, everything, under party/dictator control, subservient. The party/dictator does not share power. There is not merger. just subservience.
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The difference between statism and regulatory capture approaches 0 as you increase authoritarianism. The difference between capitalist oligarchy and party apparatchik is a distinction without a difference. They just spout the same sermon with different adjectives.
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The merger of authoritarian government with private business is a hall-mark of fascism.
No, it's not. That is just the false 1970s soviet propoganda spin on it. Just anti-western propoganda of that era.
It's a literal Mussolini quote.
Falsely attributed to Mussolini (Score:3)
The merger of authoritarian government with private business is a hall-mark of fascism.
No, it's not. That is just the false 1970s soviet propoganda spin on it. Just anti-western propoganda of that era.
It's a literal Mussolini quote.
Falsely attributed to Mussolini.
"It is generally attributed to an article written by Mussolini in the 1932 Enciclopedia Italiana with the assistance of Giovanni Gentile, the editor.
The quote, however, does not appear in the Enciclopedia Italiana in the original Italian.
It does not appear in the official English translation of that article: Benito Mussolini, 1935, “The Doctrine of Fascism,” Firenze: Vallecchi Editore.
And it does not appear in the longer treatment of the subject by Mussol
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And that in no way contradicts the fact they were an obedient servant of the state/dictator.
Yes it does.
How does being rewarded for fulfilling the desires of the state/dictator change the fact that you are entirely under their control? Your nice job is yours as long as you behave as expected. Your company is yours as long as you behave as expected. Etc.
If people have a choice to walk away and instead choose to participate, they are not obedient servants, they are willing participants.
Untrue. You ignore the coercion and fear. Disobedience comes with a cost. Many comply as a result. Both at the worker level and the CEO level, labor and industrialist. All serve the state/dictator.
Let's please avoid further hair splitting along the lines of "what if people choose to be subservient", life is too short for this kind of bullshit.
You mean ignore reality? If you study organizational behavior, a
Re:Comrade Trump (Score:5, Insightful)
Communism in the "real world" examples like USSR, Maoist China, The DPRK, etc is really just another authoritarian system and its similarities with fascism are closer than people in either camp would admit.
They both suck basically. It's just funny that the "free enterprise" party is going full "Central Planning".
Easy to switch things up when you have no core beliefs anymore.
Re:Comrade Trump (Score:5, Insightful)
They have core beliefs. Those beliefs are orthogonal to what we would deem to be normative politics.
Re:Comrade Trump (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm with you in spirit but for me the entire Trump movement makes way more sense when I gave up trying to think Republicans believe in anything anymore since I have yet to see an issue the party base would dump Trump about. It's not social issues, it's not economic issues, it's nothing Republicans believed in the past.
Whatever Trump wants to do in the moment will get to the Conservative Media, they will parrot the talking points until the base has it's new opinions and they go from there. There's nothing left, they're just fealty to a man and that makes them even more dangerous, they can and will get roped into any awful thing.
"I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."
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The Republicans know full well what a destructive force he is, and they know to one extent or another he's going to do them damage. But the core desire of the Libertarian wing of the party is the decimation of the Federal Government, so they'll accept a few body blows in service of the cause.
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Oh as a former "libertarian" myself back in the day i could rant for quite awhile about how much of a joke that movement turned out to be.
There was an interesting interview from a guy at CATO (actual libertarians, most of them) about how it turns out the idea that libertarians were most aligned with Republicans was a temporary anomaly and never really true and that what we are seeing now is Conservatism "returning to the mean" that none of that small government and freedom stuff was actually part of conserv
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Up until the Newt Gingrich's rise to power, the Libertarians were, fairly or unfairly, deemed Conservative's useful idiots.
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Hard agree on that, realizing that fact was one of the points that turned me against it.
Re: Comrade Trump (Score:3)
"the Eppstein files, which is a dumb political thing nobody gives a crap about anyway,"
Could I be out of touch? No, it's everyone else that is wrong.
There are shitloads of conservatives who made "pedos should die" their primary political identity because they were told that Democrats were pedos. They are having a hard time now.
Except for you. You're pro-pedo.
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Destroying Communism by invoking statist solutions like ordering corporations what to invest in and who should be running them.
Hmmmm.....
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While I agree, Trump didn't create this environment, he just exploited it. The conservatives planted the seeds many years ago, and along with the rise of social media, created the perfect envir
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What core beliefs are they following when they explode the national debt while saying that Democrats are bad when it comes to the debt? Or do you mean, they believe in treating Trump like a king and ignoring their own responsibilities in Congress and the Senate?
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The latter to be specific but to the former this idea that "Republicans are responsible stewards of the economy" and that they are genuinely concerned with the debt is and always has been a lie. It's always been an illusion by their own media just to malign liberals and for my entire life it's worked.
In polls people still think Republican's are better for the debt despite the fact a majority of the debt since Clinton came under Bush and Trump.
Obama and Biden had to run deficits to dig us out of the economi
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This Epstein stuff rally is the strongest test I have seen for how much loyalty he can command but unfortunately I don't even think that's enough to break the spell. So many are falling for the Obama distraction story they've been pushing (which ironically is based on already known and discredited fabricated messages that likely were Russian in origin to begin with)
Re:Comrade Trump (Score:5, Interesting)
I expect it is Putin. Trump looks up to him, and wishes to be like him.
That's an opposition narrative, but I don't believe it. I think Trump has a somewhat naive model of political power, rooted in his experience as an American oligarch (real estate business). Trump equates money with power, and does not understand power for its own sake. He expects Putin to be rational under that model, and is continually shocked at what really happens.
All the "$Evil_Foreign_Leader is a great guy" talk is just Trump trying to assert that negotiations under Trump's model will proceed in good faith. (Even though good faith always involves government corruption of the mutual back-scratching variety that any real-estate developer is familiar with).
He doesn't want to be Putin.
He wants Putin to be Trump.
That's why Trump is angry with Putin, again.
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Despotism (Score:2)
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Preaching a message? What on earth are you talking about?
The observation that the Trump (and the GOP) is going full central planning is accurate. The party of honoring the constitution, small government and states rights is doing everything they can to trample on the constitution, centralize power in the federal executive (make the president a King), neuter the legislative branch (who should hold the bulk of the power) and strip states of their rights to run federal elections, etc.
Re:Comrade Trump (Score:5, Insightful)
MAGAs see it as "getting needed shit done". However, if Biden had used similar mobster-like tactics to coerce his agenda, MAGAs would be having conniptions, worse than Jan 6 even.
Might-Makes-Right is often embraced by those it favors, but such violates the Golden Rule in that if the opposition party does it, it's "commie" or "authoritarianism".
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MAGA supporters were crying about the government interference when DHS told Twitter that the anti-vax misinformation could kill people. They were demanding that social media be made a common carrier when when neo-nazi's were being kicked off.
Now the President is shaking down research universities, telling companies to fire their CEOs, and having people deported for writing Op-Eds.
They're cheering now because their motivating value is power for herrenvolk. Always has been. Going forward there is no reason t
Re:Comrade Trump (Score:4, Interesting)
Especially now since we're seizing the means of production. https://www.theguardian.com/us... [theguardian.com]
A press release on the filing also discloses details of a national security agreement inked with the Trump administration, which gives Donald Trump the authority to name a board member as well as a non-economic golden share.
Government controlling private industry?
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Hey you know what, I am a big Sovereign Wealth Fund supporter so if Trump is opening the door to doing more lefty economics I am not about to stop him.
American for Prosperity and the Federalist Society in shambles! lol
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New fascists. Not new communists. I mean, they're pretty close, but...
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huh? wut?
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The fundamental guidelines of capitalism can be summed up as: "babies do not have teeth, so we should ban steak for everyone, as children can not chew."
The fundamental guidelines of communism for the same inquiry is "Give babies teeth, so all may chew, and all may enjoy steak"
The CCP trolls just spout the standard message of the Party like it's way last century. I don't think the Russians have any budget for Slashdot trolling. So this leaves us with a Mystery: Who used the LLM to post the above message?
Re:Impromptu Survey -- where are the believers? (Score:4, Insightful)
On topic: This is just one more case of Trump abusing his office if not directly violating the oath of office and it happens so frequently that nobody can do anything about it anymore. Who is going to stop him at this point? No Republican in congress. Not the current partisan SCOTUS. When is enough enough?
Yeah, it's pretty disgusting/shameful. I hear a lot of folks talk about "no more elections" but I think the even more pressing concern is "no more 3 branches of government".
Re:Impromptu Survey -- where are the believers? (Score:5, Insightful)
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We entered a period of unbridled greed with absolute lawlessness. $5M white house dinners f
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They don't want to be seen supporting someone who protects pedophiles.
Re: Impromptu Survey -- where are the believers? (Score:2)
I read a ton of comments defending him before I got down to your comment, so no.
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Assuming you're right with less people defending Trump. It is also noticeable that on this site we don't see people regretting voting for him.
My reading is Trump voters are quietly content with what they have. They didn't really vote for "tariff on China". They voted for a man, a worldview. They voted for personal authoritarianism, for the anti-intellectual, brutal, simplistic, anti-liberal approach. And they're getting it, so they're happy.
If Trump was economically successful, they'd be happy to claim it.
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You have the usual suspects like rsilverman and drinkypoo making wildly false statements (Putin, Nazi, etc), get voted up to +5 and any corrections downvoted to -1.
Over time the echo effect gives all mod points to the whackos and normal people move on from the echo chamber of crazies.
The Trump favorability RealClearPolitics Poll Average has him sitting at 45.9% today, which is just fine for summer when most people have tuned out of politics to go on their summer vacations.
Source:
https://www.realclearpolling [realclearpolling.com]
Re:Impromptu Survey -- where are the believers? (Score:4, Insightful)
You think the president demanding Intel's CEO to resign isn't technology related?
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Grow up and stop supporting a pedophile.
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can Trump also tell my CEO to resign, immediately, as well? please? thank you!!
I think Trump has unredeemable ties with Epstein and Putin. Can I demand he resign too?
Naturally, of course I can. And I do: Mr. Trump, I demand you resign the Presidency of the United States and of all business organizations you lead!
There. That should have exactly as much standing and effect as his demand.