
Samsung Launches World's First Micro RGB TV (sammobile.com) 62
Samsung has finally launched a TV featuring the company's new Micro RGB backlight technology. From a report: The 115-inch TV is first launching in South Korea for over $32,000, according to SamMobile, but Samsung says it's coming to the US next, followed by a wider global rollout with more size options.
Samsung's Micro RGB technology is being positioned as an upgrade to Mini LED backlights that employ an array of tiny white or blue LEDs behind a TV's LCD panel. Micro RGB backlights instead use an ultra-fine pattern of individually controlled red, green and blue LEDs that are each less than than 100um in size.
The new backlight is powered by Samsung's Micro RGB AI engine, which the company says "analyzes each frame in real time and automatically optimizes color output for a more lifelike and immersive picture." The technology allows for improved color accuracy and better contrast by precisely controlling the intensity of the individual LEDs, and Samsung says it can even boost the color in dull scenes, making them appear more vivid and immersive.
Samsung's Micro RGB technology is being positioned as an upgrade to Mini LED backlights that employ an array of tiny white or blue LEDs behind a TV's LCD panel. Micro RGB backlights instead use an ultra-fine pattern of individually controlled red, green and blue LEDs that are each less than than 100um in size.
The new backlight is powered by Samsung's Micro RGB AI engine, which the company says "analyzes each frame in real time and automatically optimizes color output for a more lifelike and immersive picture." The technology allows for improved color accuracy and better contrast by precisely controlling the intensity of the individual LEDs, and Samsung says it can even boost the color in dull scenes, making them appear more vivid and immersive.
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What differentiates it from the already-existing Hisense UX 116" set. It's also RGB LED backlit.
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It sounds like more crap where they oversaturate colors but stick some kind of marketing spin on it to make it sound more impressive than it really is: just crap. And worse, they're throwing the AI buzzword on to it, even though that doesn't mean anything. Though in their defense, a lot of people like that crap. Google caught shit with the pixel 2 for defaulting to srgb mode, which is popular among video/photo enthusiasts because it favors accuracy over having colors "pop", and Google was trying to market p
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Samsung TVs have a "store mode" where they are super bright and massively over saturated. Apparently that sells.
But they also have an accurate colour mode that usually does well in professional tests.
Still, I think they have a way to go before I'd consider one over an OLED. OLED is mature, cheaper, and the burn in issues are all resolved to my satisfaction.
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Yup. Every time they introduce some new technology that results in an image that looks exactly the same as the old technology, you know you're being taken for a ride.
Unless you go out and buy the old old old technology that looks the same as the new technology, at knockdown prices.
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But TFA is actually about some new halfway point. So really it's just a Mini LED TV with smaller leds but not pixel sized. from TFA:
The other big advantage of Micro RGB is that the technology is cheaper to produce than MicroLED TVs. While Samsung’s first 115-inch model is launching at KRW 44.9 million – or around $32,362 – the company also currently sells a smaller 110-inch MicroLED TV in the US for $150,000.
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And i guess it's also an RGB MiniLED vs white MiniLED, but still... mostly marketing.
In my defense, the naming is clearly *meant* to confuse the technologies. The LEDs are micron scale so not technically a lie, just misleading.
misleading marketing ? From the industry that brought us QLED TVs to compete with OLEDs ?! never!
(well and the whole "LED TV" itself for what previously were just LCD TVs with LED backlight ... which are wow... 20 years old now!)
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>"this isn't a micro LED tv, it's just a mini LED tv"
Which really means it is an LCD TV.
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Whereas LCDs produce an image by selectively blocking a backlight, organic LED, microLED, field-emission display and surface-conduction electron-emitter display technologies all produce an illuminated image directly. In comparison to LCDs all of these technologies offer better viewing angles, much higher brightness and contrast ratio (as much as 5,000,000:1), and better color saturation and accuracy. They also use less power, and in theory they are less complex and less expensive to build.
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>"Light emitting diodes are not liquid crystal displays."
That is true. But so-called "Mini LED" displays are LCD while "Micro LED" are actual LED displays.
https://www.trustedreviews.com... [trustedreviews.com]
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This one has AI.
So, this one is better. Obviously.
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Samsung can dim every pixel, OLED style.
How do you transport that? (Score:1)
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Not very far in the future some Samsung engineer will finally watch that episode of "Black Mirror" and it will begin... Window replacements first, then whole walls. At 8.5k per square meter, you may be sure they'll go out of their way to provide the financing for you.
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I cannot afford to do either, but I suspect that I am not their target market.
Re: How do you transport that? (Score:2)
It's irrelevant.
They make these massive tvs with the newest technology for several reasons.
1. Marketing. Everyone loves big screen tvs
2. They can't make them smaller yet. Bigger pixels are easier to make.
They need the exposure, the marketing hype, while they refine the process to make smaller, more popular sizes in volume that people will actually buy.
These are for marketing displays, custom installations, and people with too much money who want a new screen for their private screening room.
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Samsung says it can even boost the color in dull scenes, making them appear more vivid and immersive
What, if.... the director actually wanted it to be the way it is? I don't want to watch Schindler's list that looks like Mary Poppins.
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Is it colorizing B&W movies? That's interesting!
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I haven't yet though found one of those fancy color options on a monitor or TV though that I really liked more than the defaults. Not that I've tried a lot of them.
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@rsilvergun: your sig and your writing style betrayed you :p
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Samsung says it can even boost the color in dull scenes, making them appear more vivid and immersive
What, if.... the director actually wanted it to be the way it is? I don't want to watch Schindler's list that looks like Mary Poppins.
Samsung says it can even boost the color in dull scenes, making them appear more vivid and immersive
What, if.... the director actually wanted it to be the way it is? I don't want to watch Schindler's list that looks like Mary Poppins.
The Samsung TV I just bought has a menu option for "natural color" that shuts off all the "optimized, boosted, etc." nonsense that makes everything look like a cartoon. It sucks that the default tends to be to make everything look ridiculous, but I haven't stumbled over a brand yet that doesn't let you turn it off.
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To be fair, the TV doesn't really know what "natural" colour is. If you want something that comes pretty close then calibrate it with calibration software, a disk, or a colorimeter, then purple will exist again.
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The Samsung TV I just bought has a menu option for "natural color" that shuts off all the "optimized, boosted, etc." nonsense that makes everything look like a cartoon. It sucks that the default tends to be to make everything look ridiculous, but I haven't stumbled over a brand yet that doesn't let you turn it off.
Better still virtually all TVs have a colour setting called "Filmmaker" mode which is literally the way the director intended. It applies cinema colour grading, so if you want to be pretentious about directors deciding how you view a movie, then turn all the lights in the room off and set your TV to filmmaker mode.
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What, if.... the director actually wanted it to be the way it is? I don't want to watch Schindler's list that looks like Mary Poppins.
The director has no say in how you view something. The director creates the scene and colour grades it to a standard. It's up to you to set your TV to that standard, and every modern TV has that option.
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> I don't want to watch Schindler's list that looks like Mary Poppins.
Weirdo :)
You will watch vivid and immersive scenes and you will like them!
Juxtaposition of title and summary (Score:2)
For some reason it struck me as amusing to read "Micro RGB TV" followed by a mention of its 115-inch size.
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Yeah, I went in expecting some kind of tv smaller than a square centimeter.
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"oh cool, a new wearable disp.... wait..."
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Are we ever going to get a flat panel bright enoug (Score:1)
I've seen some scanline effects I like but they make the screen very dark because of course they do they are blacking out some of the lines. I've heard you can compensate some what with HDR but I haven't had much luck with my monitor, then again HDR implementations are a mixed bag to say the least and turning it on for my monitor just makes the screen
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You can also process the input for subpixel rendering, and use processing techniques to change sprites to look good with square pixels. This approach doesn't require even 4k.
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[something, something] electron gun pointed at your face [something]
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I don't think you can drive an OLED at max brightness over the whole screen long term. It will cook itself. I think just about any screen will protectively dim itself if showing a really bright scene for too long.
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ILLITERATE EDITORS (Score:1)
> 100um
What's a "u m"?
Perhaps the illiterate slashdot editor meant m? That micro-meter (1x 10-06 meter, or one mllionth of a meter).
If you can't be bothered to do your job, and/or are illiterate, just resign. Nobody will blame you. You've already proven yourself useless and stupid.
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Looks like slashdot just doesn't want that symbol here.
I've tried escaping it with backslashes and quote marks and to no avail.
Here it is:
https://www.google.com/search?... [google.com]
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Looks like slashdot just doesn't want that symbol here.
Congrats, you just learned something about expressing units in restricted character spaces. Now click your own Google link, click the wikipedia entry for "micro" and read yourself the 3rd paragraph about standard use of um where the Greek letter mu is unavailable.
Now apologise to the editors who correctly used um for being a pretentious smartarse prick.
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I'm not an AC and I can confirm this.
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Pebble has one too (Score:2)
On the Pebble YouTube channel this morning [youtube.com] it was mentioned the Pebble Time 2 would also have an RGB backlight. Of course that is much smaller e-paper screen. He said it could be used to make the watch use redder light at night.
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interesting i've never seen the Pebble guy before. I hope the relaunch survives though i'm not particularly into smart watches myself
How much more black could it be? (Score:2)
And the answer is "none". None more black.
This will be perfect in my house (Score:2)
Why not just OLED! (Score:2)
We keep making the back lighting fancier, until the cost and complexity of that fanciness, might as well just implement OLED, where the brightness and color can be fully controlled without a backlight at all. LG already sells a 97-inch OLED screen for half that price, at $15,000. https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-o... [lg.com] It can't be that much harder or expensive to scale up to 113 inches.
Re: Why not just OLED! (Score:2)
oled is inherently short lived. The longer are on and brighter they are, the quicker they degrade.
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Maybe not as short-lived as they used to be. https://www.coolblue.nl/en/adv... [coolblue.nl]