
Countrywide Natural Experiment Links Built Environment To Physical Activity (nature.com) 72
A countrywide study of smartphone users who relocated between US cities found that moving to more walkable environments increased daily walking by 1,100 steps on average. Stanford University researchers analyzed 248,266 days of step data from 5,424 users of the Azumio Argus smartphone app who relocated 7,447 times among 1,609 cities between March 2013 and February 2016. Participants who moved from cities at the 25th percentile of walkability to those at the 75th percentile sustained the increased activity levels for at least three months after relocation.
The additional steps consisted predominantly of moderate-to-vigorous physical activity, with large walkability increases of 49-80 points associated with about one hour per week more of such activity. The study found that 42.5% of participants met national physical activity guidelines for moderate-to-vigorous activity after moving to highly walkable locations, compared to 21.5% before relocation. Computer simulations based on the data suggest that increasing all US cities to the walkability level of Chicago or Philadelphia could result in 36 million more Americans meeting aerobic physical activity guidelines.
The additional steps consisted predominantly of moderate-to-vigorous physical activity, with large walkability increases of 49-80 points associated with about one hour per week more of such activity. The study found that 42.5% of participants met national physical activity guidelines for moderate-to-vigorous activity after moving to highly walkable locations, compared to 21.5% before relocation. Computer simulations based on the data suggest that increasing all US cities to the walkability level of Chicago or Philadelphia could result in 36 million more Americans meeting aerobic physical activity guidelines.
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Cancer rates for rural populations(457.6 per 100,000) are higher than urban (447.9 per 100,000). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go... [nih.gov]
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Cancer rates for rural populations(457.6 per 100,000) are higher than urban (447.9 per 100,000). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go... [nih.gov]
Of course, because you're less likely to get cancer if you get run over by a self-driving taxi or shot first. /s
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"People in the US who live in low-density sprawl are more likely to die violently than their inner-city cousins -- thanks mostly to car accidents." [thewalrus.ca]
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"People in the US who live in low-density sprawl are more likely to die violently than their inner-city cousins -- thanks mostly to car accidents." [thewalrus.ca]
It's pretty dishonest for the link to group auto accidents with armed robberies, assault, rape, etc. Violence, as a legal definition, is intentional. Accidents, by their very definition, are not.
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Just whatever you do, don't mention the demographics involved. Please don't. Just don't do it.
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Violently [dictionary.com] Definitions: "in a way that involves uncontrolled or destructive force" or "in an intense or extreme way."
The force is pretty destructive when someone engrossed in their cellphone wanders out on the street in the path of a fast-moving ton of metal. By coincidence, the ton of metal is steered by someone engrossed in their cellphone too!
But you're right. It is an "accident."
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It's pretty dishonest for the link to group auto accidents with armed robberies, assault, rape, etc. Violence, as a legal definition, is intentional.
You're dead or maimed either way.
Accidents, by their very definition, are not.
The preferred term by the police here is collision because accident implies there's no-one to blame.
So tell me, are Americans just naturally shit at life or is there an actual reason your roads are very much more deadly (including per mile, so don't pull the America is big bullshit)
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You don't generally see dual axle Dodge Ram 1500 fuck off trucks in europe (we get vans here), at least not on the highways, in the EU you don't see teenagers who own camaros, a
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American roads are more deadly due to the weight of the vehicles involved.
That may be a contributing factor but they are also deadly because so many are stroads. They combine high speed design (multiple wide lanes, long straight stretches) without the usual features designed to separate high and low speed traffic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
See here.
Note that they are also inefficient. An interesting fact is that in most of the west, traffic deaths per mile went down during Covid. In America, speeds
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"People in the US who live in low-density sprawl are more likely to die violently than their inner-city cousins -- thanks mostly to car accidents." [thewalrus.ca]
Then why try to force high density with public policy? If it's so great in every respect, people will just naturally seek it, right?
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The air is worse, but you're getting a lot more steps in!
More walking vs. more breathing in carcinogens. Which wins?
Hint: More walking doesn't do anything to help you remove persistent PM2.5 irritants from your lungs. On the other hand, smoking weed does, because it increases sputum production...
Re:Counterintuitive (Score:4, Informative)
You do not get more carcinogens in NYC as compared to most other cities. New York City is not on the list of top 15 most polluted American Cities. California is the bad guy there, mainly because of all the cars in traffic jams. Subways rule !
Note, the only real surprise on the top15 most polluted cities is Fairbanks Alaska. Apparently wood burning stoves make for cheap heating in the winter, but the winter air traps all the smoke close to the ground. Throw in wild fires and you get the 7th worst city in the USA.
World wide, India has the 9 of the 11 worst cities, but China has most of the 500 worst cities. No American city is in the top 500 most polluted, we have (or at least used to have) the EPA, which does a good job protecting our air quality.
NYC is the 21st 'healthiest' city in the United States. (https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/search/healthiest-cities/) Not bad.
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You do not get more carcinogens in NYC as compared to most other cities. New York City is not on the list of top 15 most polluted American Cities. California is the bad guy there, mainly because of all the cars in traffic jams.
Geography plays a big part too. LA has those mountains [sierraclub.org] making sure the smog doesn't go anywhere very fast.
Re: Counterintuitive (Score:2)
Yeah, but people in LA don't walk :)
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Walkin' in L.A
Walkin' in L.A
Nobody walks in L.A
(Walkin' in L.A.)
Walkin' in L.A
Only a nobody walks in L.A
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You do not get more carcinogens in NYC as compared to most other cities. New York City is not on the list of top 15 most polluted American Cities. California is the bad guy there, mainly because of all the cars in traffic jams. Subways rule !
The California cities with the most polluted air are all in the central valley, in farm country. Tractors kicking up dust and stuff while the air is hemmed in on all sides in the wide valley. The coastal cities generally have good air, well at least away from LA. In the US, the big factor for air pollution is geography and how the wind blows.
High-Speed Lead Pollution (Score:1)
You do not get more carcinogens in NYC as compared to most other cities.
Are you factoring in the far greater rate of high-speed lead pollution found in US cities compared to their western counterparts? Lead is a known carcinogen and highly toxic as well.
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China is big. China likely has most of the 500 X cities where X is just about anything in common. You really need to normalize per-capita to get a realistic picture of whether China is better or worse.
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Not surprised (Score:4, Insightful)
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I have it on good authority from Americans that peak civilisation and life enjoyment is being stuck in traffic sitting in a oversized tank representing an undersized penis because walking and taking public transport is for poor people.
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Americans don't WALK across their cities because
You know why.
You know exactly why.
The entire urban landscape of the USA can be explained by a very very very simple thing. It started on Dec. 18th, 1865 or much earlier, when they all were brought to the US in the first place.
Everything and everyone wants to get away from them, paying any price they can or driving as far as they need to.
One of my favorite cell phone tracking studies (Score:2)
But we can't have walkable cities because then the government can control absolutely everywhere you go.
Now please pay absolutely no attention to all those self-driving cars or the fact that the government builds all your roads because the car companies sure as hell on going to pay for that...
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They would have been incentivized and in particular they would have wanted to show how pious they were to the people doing the studies and they still managed to have extremely low rates of church attendance.
Basically Church attendance has been cratering for some time. It's actually benefiting the mega churches because the other smaller churches are closing left and right leaving nothing in the area if you want to go t
How did they find out? (Score:2)
moving to more walkable environments increased daily walking
Wow! How did they just find out? Crazy bastards these scientists, nowadays!
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Village life (Score:2)
Re: Village life (Score:4, Informative)
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I live in a city with a population of 1million people and agree with you. The size doesn't make the difference. Urban planning does. It's not worth starting the car for most anything, even when raining or snowing. Typically it's cheaper and faster to get to a destination in a well designed city by foot, bicycle, or public transport.
I start the car when I have to haul something heavy ... that I can't get delivered.
Now things change when I travel to other cities. ... No wait it doesn't either because taking a
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I live in a 1914 suburb of a 2000 year old city of 15 million. And... same.
I own no car. Walking, biking, scooting, bus, train and metro does the job for me for almost everything.
Question (Score:2)
Is Bataan Peninsula considered to be walkable?
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I see what you did there...
Let people make their own decisions. (Score:3, Informative)
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You have the right to make your own decisions. However, you are the people trying to force others to live far away, no one is trying to force you to live close. Every day a-holes in major cities try to prevent people from living dense. They pass rules saying no duplex's, no sky scrapers, etc.
No one is going around telling people that live in small towns or farms that they cannot build single family housing.
Note, the people in NYC can easily have those things delivered once a week. We can do that for le
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>We are fine supporting your ridiculous life styles :) There's nothing really ridiculous about not wanting to be surrounded by noise, traffic and hordes of people, is there? IMO the suburban lifestyle is the ridiculous one. Almost all the downsides of living in a densely populated area, with none of the upsides; and none of the upsides of actually being 'rural', but all of the downsides (more driving, primarily)
What do you mean by that?
I can say though, living about 30 miles outside the nearest 'city'
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Let people vote for where they want to live with their dollars and personal choices -- no tax dollars should be used to further walkability goals or any other society planning.
Let's for a moment forget all the stupidity you wrote before that last sentence and focus in "their dollars and personal choices - no tax dollars". Exactly what dollars you think are being used to pave the roads you use daily or build infrastructure like electricity, water, communications and every other public service to the rural/suburban area you chose to live as your personal choice? You, sir, a an absolutely idiot.
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You just know that he will flat out refuse to accept that rural and suburban environments in the US have been explicitly planned to be suitable for fast driving and dangerous for cars and mainly as a result of firefighter departments having shitty incentives and ridiculous macho egos that encourage them to buy larger trucks than they actually need, all of which is driven by the appalling nature of the US healthcare system, which makes it extremely profitable to run a crappy ambulance service. The intractabl
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I'm from the mid-west so I have a lifetime of experience with the ignorance that comes with suburban living. If people in rural/suburban areas had to pay full amount for all the public amenities they receive, it wou
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I don't WANT to live anywhere close enough to businesses to be able to walk to them. Give me rural or suburban. If any businesses are within a mile, that is way too close. And shopping on foot is totally impractical anyway if you buy any quantity of items -- or heavy items like cat litter or large bags of cat or dog food. I typically go to the grocery store for major shopping every couple of weeks -- and fill the entire back of an SUV, so that isn't happening on foot. Same for work, my typical daily driving is 15-25 miles depending on the day.
Let people vote for where they want to live with their dollars and personal choices -- no tax dollars should be used to further walkability goals or any other society planning.
As Magnificat says, it is true that in a place built for cars, you do tend to need a large car to drive all the way to the supermarket, "stock up", and then "haul" the goods back home. And it's also true that you probably don't want to live close to those sort of sprawling, noisy businesses.
In a walkable environment all sorts of things change. People shop just for the evening meal. They pop in to the grocer's on their way home - it doesn't have to be a special trip. Items are sold in smaller quantities - Yo
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Shopping for food daily and not keeping enough on hand for at least a week or two is a serious waste of time and also is quite frankly a dangerous situation to be in. There is no way I would ever not have at least a few weeks worth of canned goods, rice, beans, and bottled water on hand. Additionally, buying in small quantities is almost always more expensive. And buying at a small local store in a city makes it harder to get good, locally grown organic produce, fresh eggs, and meats. Most farmers markets tend to be located outside the actual city and closer to the actual farms where stuff is grown.
Good points. I do agree that it is good to have a few week's stock of non-perishable food for emergencies. And yes, as a rule of thumb, buying in bulk is cheaper.
However buying small quantities doesn't have to mean not buying locally. It's not always like that where I live. In fact one of my local (small) supermarkets has the name and location of the famer advertised with the vegetables. And buying vegetables regulaly means you are eating fresh produce. I don't want to portray my environment as some sort of
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If you are eating perishable fruits and vegetables you bought two weeks ago, you are not eating organic, and you have lost large amounts of the nutritional value of what you have.
I live in North London (UK). I have both large supermarkets and small grocers within an eight minute walk of my house selling a huge range of fresh produce (examples: pistachios, cashews, walnuts and organic honey including the comb from Turkey; Kentish cobnuts; garlic shoots; sorrel when in season; dozens of varieties of tahini; i
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Tell that to the people living in the highlands and islands when the Co-op got hit earlier in the year. The nearest other supermarket is 100 miles away, and all of a sudden, it's no longer funny. I was in one a month after the attack, and the place was stripped. The only frozen goods were some ice cream and ice cubes. The only breakfast cereal was high-end muesli. Hell even the alcohol shelves were almost empty.
Now imagine that instead of M&S and the Co-op, it had been Tesco and Sainsbury's, now ~45% of
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First off, I think it’s a bit different if you live in a remote area like the Highlands and Islands, where the chance of something happening that requires you to be self-sufficient is much higher than in London.
Secondly, I remember the Covid shortages of bog paper etc very well, and you know what? My local corner shop had no supply shortages the entire way through, including all those delicious items I mentioned before. Some of the big supermarkets struggled with some perishable goods for a while, but
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You can make your own choices. What you can't do is have your own reality. So I'll be taking the piss a bit.
Refusing to believe in the existence of alternatives or refusing to hear how the alternatives work doesn't make you correct.
Shopping for food daily and not keeping enough on hand for at least a week or two is a serious waste of time
Firstly, don't you have grocery delivery where you live? If not that's pretty weird.
Secondly, I've done it both ways and you are mistaken. I have a small supermarket a few
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People claim that right until they actually do live that close to businesses to walk to. Sorry to gaslight you, but I thought like you before I moved to a walkable city and boy were my eyes opened to how much better life is.
By the way I live in suburbs. Walkable doesn't mean giving up rural. There's a lot of grey space between inner city skyscrapers and a suburb with zero percent commercial zoning and zero public transport. I live in a house. I don't see or hear anything commercial, yet I can still walk to
1100 Steps (Score:2)
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Being generous and assuming a stride length of 2.5 feet means you are walking another 440 feet per day. That's not a lot.
On "couch potato" days my watch logs 4,000 step.
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As someone who tracks his steps, an extra 1000 steps is nothing. If a change in environment boosted my step count by say 3000-4000 then I would start listening.
BR>With a family to look after I can do 1000 steps on my stairs at home in 1 day alone and I don't even count that towards exercise.
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Suck on that city planners! Don't spend money on sidewalks, spend it on moving trucks and dog food.
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"Stride length is the distance covered when taking two steps, one with each foot. It's the distance between the point where one foot strikes the ground and the next time that same foot strikes the ground."
2.5 feet per stride? Do you shop for clothes in the toddler section? Even then, wouldn't it be 550 feet per day?
Steps are not what you think they are (Score:2)
Steps are NOT a way to quantify healthy exercise. Everyone wants to see improvement in their health, so they want to see more steps on their devices. Except those steps are now shorter, lighter, less up and down, you know, pretending that 3 steps on level ground are better than 2 steps going up stairs. Hey, take the escalater up to rest and then walk around the office once. MORE STEPS! There is so much that technology does NOT measure. One of those is health. How about: walk a little more than last w
Meh (Score:2)
I get over 10,000 steps per day just going for walks. Walking around our neighborhood. No high density necessary.
No need to herd me into a dense city with public policy. You self-styled "anti-fascists" sure like force ...
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No one's trying to herd you into a city. You sound completely insufferable and would much rather you're shut away in the distant 'burbs where you're less of a bother.
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But, if insufferability is the product of something else, like repeated negative interactions with others, then we could assume the per-capita rate would be higher in cities where the population density makes such interactions far more common. Ditto if it is caused