Global EV Sales Up 27% In 2025 (cleantechnica.com) 143
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CleanTechnica: In a sharp rebuke to the anti-electrification agenda in the US, global EV sales are up 27% over last year, with some legacy automakers -- but not all -- indicating the potential for a successful transition to electric mobility. CleanTechnica has spilled much ink on the pace of plug-in hybrid and full EV adoption, and the latest report from the UK firm Rho Motion (a branch of the price reporting agency Benchmark Mineral Intelligence) adds some fresh insights.
Covering the first seven months of 2025, earlier today Rho Motion totaled up more than 10.7 million EVs sold for a "robust" 27% increase over the same period last year, with China leading the pack by a wide margin. Europe also contributed to the overall robustness. Germany and the UK racked up impressive gains and Italy also turning in a mentionable performance. "The European EV market has grown by 30% year-to-date, with strong momentum in both battery electric vehicles (BEVs) and plug-in hybrids (PHEVs), up 30% and 32% respectively," Rho Motion summarized.
"In contrast, North America's growth has been muted so far in 2025, with the US facing policy headwinds and Canada seeing a slowdown," Rho Motion Data Manager Charles Lester observed. "We expect a short-term lift in US demand ahead of the IRA consumer tax credit deadline in September, followed by a likely dip," Lester added. That short-term lift won't help North America catch up to Europe [...] Rho Motion's EV sales snapshot shows the recent gains:
Global: 10.7 million, +27%
China: 6.5 million, +29%
Europe: 2.3 million, +30%
North America: 1.0 million, +2%
Rest of World: 0.9 million, +42%
Covering the first seven months of 2025, earlier today Rho Motion totaled up more than 10.7 million EVs sold for a "robust" 27% increase over the same period last year, with China leading the pack by a wide margin. Europe also contributed to the overall robustness. Germany and the UK racked up impressive gains and Italy also turning in a mentionable performance. "The European EV market has grown by 30% year-to-date, with strong momentum in both battery electric vehicles (BEVs) and plug-in hybrids (PHEVs), up 30% and 32% respectively," Rho Motion summarized.
"In contrast, North America's growth has been muted so far in 2025, with the US facing policy headwinds and Canada seeing a slowdown," Rho Motion Data Manager Charles Lester observed. "We expect a short-term lift in US demand ahead of the IRA consumer tax credit deadline in September, followed by a likely dip," Lester added. That short-term lift won't help North America catch up to Europe [...] Rho Motion's EV sales snapshot shows the recent gains:
Global: 10.7 million, +27%
China: 6.5 million, +29%
Europe: 2.3 million, +30%
North America: 1.0 million, +2%
Rest of World: 0.9 million, +42%
Stockman says (Score:2)
US industrial production index—which measures the sum of manufacturing, energy, mining, and utility output—marched straight uphill at a 3.3% annual rate between 1954 and 2007.
Yet since then it has essentially plateaued, rising by just 0.10% per annum during the past 17 years.
And in those 17 years, national debt has skyrocketed https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/4233... [abcnewsfe.com]
Bank loans don't increase inflation in the long run because the money is paid back. The national debt is unpaid and unlikely to ever be paid. Its just barely serviceable (as in the interest can be paid). In essence, the stock market isn't up, the value of the dollar is down that much. It would be one thing if the stock market growth was from productivity growth, but its from debt growth. This system only works because in
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"Bank loans don't increase inflation in the long run because the money is paid back."
What does "increase inflation in the long run"? Do increased costs have anything to do with inflation?
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One could say that debt can indirectly fuel inflation, particularly when the Fed starts purchasing treasuries for its QE- but even that effect is quite muted.
You're a bullshit peddler.
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Inflation isn't high.
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I have a guess.
With new policies in the US, profits are expected to skyrocket even though the consumer might get massively screwed.
The policies will likely enable companies to go unchecked, to pay fewer taxes, and to squeeze their employees more, while delivering less reliable value to the consumer. So profit will go up (at least in the short term), the stocks go up too.
A random computer scientist opinion isn't worth much, but that my $.02
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But hey, stock prices are up, because we faked the statistics.
Honestly, does anybody know why stock prices are up when inflation is high and joblessness is rising?
What? Not enough doom and gloom for you these days, you want the stock market to suck too?
Re: Let's ruin the economy! (Score:2)
Try adjusting for inflation. Dollar's down 10% since Trump took office. So any stock that's not overly exposed to the price of the dollar is appearing 10% higher than it should.
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"So any stock that's not overly exposed to the price of the dollar is appearing 10% higher than it should."
False. Stock prices are determined by what people are willing to pay for it. Economic factors that affect the value of the dollar also affect what people are willing to pay for stocks.
Re: Let's ruin the economy! (Score:2)
The value of a stock that isn't moving in price while the dollar is falling, is itself falling.
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Certainly, someone who retired at 40 and lives off of their investments should know this.
Just more evidence you're a lying sack of shit and a bullshit artist.
If you graph the S&P vs. inflation, you'll see that there is no causative relationship whatsoever.
There are indicators that volatility is increased, however.
This should make sense, of course.
People don't price bonds based on how much eggs cost.
Re: Let's ruin the economy! (Score:2)
The value of a stock that isn't moving in price while the dollar is falling, is itself falling.
If you don't understand that, you should avoid embarrassing yourself again.
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Which would suggest that stocks are inflation-resistant, yet they aren't.
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Many graphs confirm this.
BLS lies (Re:Let's ruin the economy!) (Score:2)
Inflation rates I found for the last few years, off a random website that is quoting US BLS.
July 2025: 2.7%
Average 2024: 2.9%
Average 2023: 4.1%
Average 2022: 8.0%
Average 2021: 4.7%
Average 2020: 1.2%
Average 2019: 1.8%
Average 2018: 2.4%
Average 2017: 2.1%
Average 2016: 1.3%
Average 2015: 0.1%
Inflation is certainly higher than that seen in 2015 but other than that it looks to be pretty typical. If you want to blame this on faked statistics from BLS then I'd say that applies regardless of when the BLS released inf
Re: Let's ruin the economy! (Score:1)
Re:Let's ruin the economy! (Score:5, Interesting)
Oh, it's really simple: the majority of the stock market is owned by rich people. Moreover, the top 10 companies in the S&P 500 are worth about 40% of the index? So when Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, Apple, Alphabet and a few others go up, the whole index goes up. Who's Nvidia selling GPUs to? All the other companies at the top of the index. The AI hype is pumping billions into the top end of the market.
It's worth remembering that the stock market is not the economy, and certainly the S&P 500 is not the economy, and the top 10 companies of the S&P 500 are not the economy. So inflation and joblessness are rising because they're the ACTUAL economy and nobody has any fucking money.
The fundamentals aren't really in line with any of this. The price-to-earnings ratio of these companies is insanely high, even accounting for how much money they're making. And people all over the world see Nvidia is doing well, so they dump money into the stock. And then people see the stock is going up, so they dump more money into the stock! And that's actually gone very well, but who knows how long it'll last.
tl;dr the stock market is a weird collective fever dream that doesn't necessarily (and never has) reflect reality.
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As you said, it's very simple.
The majority of the stock market is owned by people that don't have to recompute their budgets based on an 8% increase in CPI, because, this may come as a shock to some people- but a large percentage of their income is not spent on groceries and gas.
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The context of the 8% was clearly to demonstrate that even at the worst inflation, CPI simply does not impact the stock market appreciably.
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"Dutch disease" requires a single source of income to displace all others. The USA has a very diverse economy that it is unlikely for AI, data centers, or anything related, to cause a problem.
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All(*) the investment has been sucked up into the tech and AI bubble.
All the industrial base has been exported, mostly to China.
Agricultural sectors have low margins and are ultra competitive around the world.
There comes a point where all one's eggs are in the IP basket, and all the returns are dominated by IP. Then the rest of the world ignores one's IP, and then one has a really big problem.
(*) order of magnitude.
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Plenty is being sucked up by crypto and other kinds of financial voodoo.
Our country will continue to lose competitiveness as long as the smartest people go to Wall Street to suck money out of other people. At least with tech and AI, they're making something useful.
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Stocks aren't rising so much as the value of the dollar is falling.
"In a sharp rebuke to the anti-electrification..." (Score:3)
Our grandfathers generation of journalism professors would be condemning fabrication of an agenda on both sides:
Article lead in line - "In a sharp rebuke to the anti-electrification agenda in the US,"
A paragraph or two later - "Covering the first seven months of 2025, earlier today Rho Motion totaled up more than 10.7 million EVs sold for a “robust” 27% increase over the same period last year, with China leading the pack by a wide margin."
So, apparently the US has to prove to the world that elec
In a word, China (Score:2, Insightful)
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"...artificially inflating the "demand" for them."
No, raising the REAL "demand" for them. And that's good for the environment.
It only upsets you because of your own prejudices, and it's only an alleged "ability", according to you, there's isn't even a claim that they do that. Pathetic.
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Yep. Adjusting for PPP (ie the typical American’s greater purchasing power compared to the typical Chinese person’s), an 8k USD car in China would cost something like 15k in the US. 15,000 USD!! That would absolutely be a compelling deal for a new car
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In the UK a MG S5 was selling for £23k recently, not around £24k for the top spec. That's including tax at 20%. About 26k USD before tax.
It's the popular crossover/SUV shape. Well made, quiet, comfortable, all the tech, big battery and fast charging. There really isn't a lot more most people could want from an EV, and it's cheaper than a lot of similar spec/quality fossil cars.
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EU not as much
You should tell that to the VW group and Stellantis and Tesla who have the top 10 spots for EV registrations in the EU in the last quarter. The first Chinese car comes in position 11 which is the Volvo EX30
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Lame summary (Score:2)
People buying EVs globally isn't a rebuke of anything. People are buying what they want. Unless, if course, people are being forced to buy EVs...
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In your roll-coaling dreams.
It can't be! Must be lies (Score:2)
This must be lies and propaganda. Slashdot luddites have assured me EVs will never take off because they have a giant pickup that doesn't even fit in a single parking spot and they need to be able to haul 5 tons in order to drive to the office.
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When "the office" is a shop producing furniture then having a diesel truck or cargo van is something of a necessity. It's as if people forget that not everyone gets paid to type on a computer keyboard.
Where I see a problem with EV adoption is in mining and refining the raw materials for making enough batteries to meet demand.
If what people wanted was a car that could get them to and from work, school, etc. on an overnight charge from a common 120VAC outlet then we had that nearly 30 years ago with the GM E
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My dude, EV vans are also growing rapidly in sales around the world, as are EV cargo bikes. The vast majority of manly stuff that manly men make and move does not need a fucking pickup truck to be delivered. You guys are so absurd with this
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I know you wrote cargo van. You wrote it as though that were some kind of obstacle to EV adoption, which it patently isn’t.
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In 2001, I was in the market for my first car.
The EV1 was on my list. Unfortunately, it was a very impractical 2 seater, nor even suited for a Costco trip with 2 in the car.
Also, you could not buy it. And the lease price was $43k. In 2001 dollars.
I bought a 2001 Prius for $20k + tax instead, cash.
In 2012, I leased a Nissan Leaf. It had a 73 mile EPA range. It significantly underperformed the estimate due to living in the hills abd driving fast at off peak late hours, with the heat on. Closer to 50 miles in
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When "the office" is a shop producing furniture then having a diesel truck or cargo van is something of a necessity.
Given I collected a pair of chairs and brought them home using nothing but a cargo bike, I dispute your assertion.
But the thing that proves you're really off your rocker are things like this:
https://www.ford.co.uk/vans-an... [ford.co.uk]
https://business.renault.co.uk... [renault.co.uk]
https://www.mercedes-benz.co.u... [mercedes-benz.co.uk]
https://www.volkswagen-vans.co... [volkswagen-vans.co.uk]
You know, vans.
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Right, I understand vans are an option, which is why I mentioned cargo vans as an option.
You said diesel you utter twonk. Every single one of those is electric.
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Are you suffering from amnesia. You said this:
When "the office" is a shop producing furniture then having a diesel truck or cargo van is something of a necessity.
Electric vans exist so a diesel van or truck is not a necessity. The end.
Just admit you were wrong.
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I was literally replying to a post you wrote.
https://slashdot.org/comments.... [slashdot.org]
It's not my fault if you're too dumb to remember writing it and too angry to admit to it even when it's a matter of very obvious record.
You said a diesel van or truck is a necessity for furniture makes. I provided proof of electric vans existing. Therefore you are simply put wrong.
Go on, admit it, it'll do you good!
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Did I make any claim that electric vans didn't exist?
You said a diesel van or truck is something of a necessity. Clearly it is not.
Re:It can't be! Must be lies (Score:4, Informative)
Maybe you should do a check on the environmental damage mining fossil fuels has done over the last 100+ years before looking elsewhere - A Fossil Fuel Economy Requires 535x More Mining Than a Clean Energy Economy [www.distilled.earth]
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A comment only relevant because you identify as a "Slashdot luddite".
Cadillac announced plans to sell EVs exclusively (Score:2)
Cadillac recently announced plans to sell EVs exclusively but backed down a tiny bit and are selling a redesigned $120K Escalade with a hand-built 6.2L V-8 anyway.
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Sorry for replying to my own comment, but neither article even mentions Cadillac's announced pivot to EVs.
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Why would it? It’s one move by one manufacturer in relation to one marque. There’s no need to mention this any more than the Renault 5 or the new BYD supercar or any other thing
Availability of lower-cost models (Score:2)
A big factor driving EV sales recently is the introduction last year and this year of new, lower-cost (but 200 mile range and under) EV models from the likes of Hyundai/Kia and Renault. Renault, especially with the 4 E-Tech and 5 E-Tech models and the upcoming Twingo E-tech, models well-suited for the narrower streets of Europe.
Mull this over (Score:2)
If you don't have a garage, or
If you need to drive on the highway to get groceries, or
If you live alone, nevermind, this is not for you.
But if you have multiple people in the house, and get the car out of the garage to drive a mile or three for groceries, you are throwing money away if you don't own a cheap, used EV.
You can get one for $5k, but it's probably wiser to pay more like $9 to $12k for one. You can charge it from a 120v outlet -- it draws the same current as a $30 Walmart space heater. You will
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You'll never pay for oil changes or brake jobs
Should be "seldom pay for brake jobs", also wonder if there is some oil in the gears somewhere that should be changed once in a long while.
Brakes rot over time. Example my manual truck with 250,000 odd miles when I brought it. Front rotors were pitted, needed turned or replaced, I replaced. One caliper had a rotten seal along with one pad that was worn, rest were good, new caliper (should have done both) and new pads while in there. The front rubber lines, looked good but were rotten inside, replaced. The m
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I don't have a horse trailer and don't want an EV.
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Since a Rivian can tow 11,000lbs, it sounds more like you're looking at the wrong EV. https://rivian.com/support/art... [rivian.com]
Re: Not for me thanks... (Score:1)
Make it a hybrid and I would consider it
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But ya, I agree with what you're implying- person who made the post almost certainly never even looked up the numbers, just posted some bullshit off of the top of his head.
They can't pull their imaginary horse trailer with their 1988 Honda Civic, either.
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This reads like a forward from grandma.
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This reads like a forward from grandma.
Your grandma writes technical posts about lithium battery fires?
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Got a link to the news article about this certainly true story?
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But in this instance regarding large lithium battery installations in areas that can potentially flood really isn't a great idea.
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Got a link to the news article about this certainly true story?
I got a couple links from searching on "hurricane milton battery fire":
https://ctif.org/news/11-elect... [ctif.org]
https://www.miamiherald.com/ne... [miamiherald.com]
From the second link: "The effect is akin to accidentally touching both terminals of a car battery with a wrench â" sparks will fly."
I can relate, I was working on my car in the cold so I was wearing some cotton gloves while tightening up the bolts on my battery. My wrench slipped off the bolt and I happened to touch the wrench across the battery terminals which set
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Oh, to be absolutely clear here, I didn't doubt it was possible, but you have to understand that one of the key tools of the Russian disinformation campaign is amplifying partially true or even just believable messaging to throw off public perception of the volume of such incidents. When you see claims like this you have a civic duty to ask for qualifying proof; at the very least it makes them do the leg work.
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Complete bullshit. Need to make your lies more believable, comrade.
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Re: Not for me thanks... (Score:1)
You sound like a typical ev cultist
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then wait for sodium batteries.
BTW: China now has VERY strict laws on batteries for cars.
They must not explode or catch fire if stabbed or damaged.
flooding should be covered too.
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I mean, LFP has been a thing for ages, but you carry on
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The alternative is ferrying around a tank full of flammable liquid in a car powered by explosions.
More seriously the newer LFP batteries are extremely robust and difficult to ignite. There are videos of people attacking them with power tools and they still don't catch fire.
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The alternative is ferrying around a tank full of flammable liquid in a car powered by explosions.
Wow, could you have made that any more misleading? lol
PoWeReD By ExPlOsIoNs!!!!!
Yes, very, very tiny explosions. Also highly controlled explosions.
You're not wrong about the tank full of flammable liquid, but in the context of their post- this was stationary, in an area that could be hit by storm surge.
You can dump as much salt water as you like on a tank of gas, and it's not going to explode. That is not the case for a LiPo pack.
More seriously the newer LFP batteries are extremely robust and difficult to ignite. There are videos of people attacking them with power tools and they still don't catch fire.
Batteries keep getting better. No question. That's how technology works.
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It was more a point about the absurdity of the claim about batteries and fires. EVs catch fire less than fossils do, not least because they produce a lot less heat in normal operation. All the hand wringing about batteries and stored energy, are pretty much the same as the ones about fossil cars when they were new. Horses rarely catch fire.
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It was more a point about the absurdity of the claim about batteries and fires. EVs catch fire less than fossils do, not least because they produce a lot less heat in normal operation. All the hand wringing about batteries and stored energy, are pretty much the same as the ones about fossil cars when they were new. Horses rarely catch fire.
There is a notable problem with battery installations in hurricane areas right now.
Every hurricane results in a bunch of EV, Powerwall, and their subsequent house fires. This is just fact.
In these instances, there is a 0% chance a fossil source is going to destroy your home.
Does that mean "batteries are bad!!!!"? Of course not.
But it is a real problem that needs real consideration.
And yes- anyone who tries to make an argument that batteries are inherent dangerous because of their stored energy is an
Re: Not for me thanks... (Score:1)
These numbers are false, China has been offering new cars as zero mile used cars. BYD is the leader in such antics
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How is this a problem?
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LOL, it wasn't a Nazi salute, it was TWO Nazi salutes. It wasn't an emotional gesture, it was a planned heil hitler, followed by a turn and another heil hitler.
You morons are pathetic.
Re: Listen right wing LLM running troll the Elon (Score:2)
Re: Listen right wing LLM running troll the Elon (Score:1)
You're responding to a bot.
With that said, the look on musk's face during his Nazi salute was not love.
Also, he lies constantly, and we all know this because the lies are public, and then you expect us to trust what he said. You appear to be that stupid, but the rest of us are not.
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Who the fuck cares about all that, Jesus. Troll harder why don't you.
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Tesla's sales are collapsing...
That's fine, there now are a ton of other companies producing plug-in hybrids and battery EVs. If there's demand, someone will build the cars. It doesn't have to be Tesla.
The sub headline of the article ought to be "and most of the growth and sales were in China." I'm not sure what that tells us. Either the Chinese cars are really good (which I've heard they are) and/or they're really cheap (which I've also heard) and/or the prices are being subsidized by Chinese taxpayers (which I have no idea whether that
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>> Most of that smog you see is tire particulate.
No it isn't.
Re: Elephant in the room (Score:1)
Internal combustion isn't dead yet (Re:zip zap) (Score:1, Troll)
There's nothing wrong with the internal combustion engine, not as far as global warming, air pollution, or most any issue brought up against them. The problem is in the fuel, and we can fix that.
I've been seeing hints here and there of big moves on synthesized fuel to replace petroleum fuel, and with that would be a solution for a great many issues people have with internal combustion engines since the real problem is the fuel. It seems that with every mention of synthesized fuel someone will want to "cor
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The problem is in the fuel, and we can fix that.
Right. People in this country threaten to riot if gas prices go above $4/gal.
Synthetic gas that is genuinely carbon neutral (not just greenwashing like ethanol) will never be less than $20/gal.
In theory, that would work if people were willing to pay more and get more efficient vehicles. In reality, in this country, no fucking way.
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I said carbon neutral synthetic gasoline. That's the whole point of the OP's theory that ICE engines are hunky dory.
From an emissions standpoint, South Africa's coal-derived fuel is even worse than just using oil.
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Sadly, some of your premises are false.
It is a well known fact that emissions from internal combustion engines cause air pollution. People commit suicide by breathing in the toxic fumes from their car parked in their closed garage with the engine running.
NOx air pollution is not from the fuel itself but from the atmospheric nitrogen and oxygen in the air-fuel mixture that is combusted. Synthetic fuel will also produce NOx air pollution in a combustion engine. Consequently, synthetic fuel will become banned
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>> we don’t have much to do with it
Obvious lie.
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