After Tea Leak, 33,000 Women's Addresses Were Purportedly Mapped on Google Maps (bbc.com) 130
After the Tea dating-advice app leaked information on its users, the BBC found two online maps "purporting to represent the locations of women who had signed up for Tea... showing 33,000 pins spread across the United States." The maps were hosted on Google Maps. (Notified by the BBC, Google deleted the maps, saying they violated their harassment policies.)
"Since the breach, more than 10 women have filed class actions against the company which owns Tea," the article points out, noting that leaked content is also spreading around social media: Since the breach, the BBC has found websites, apps and even a "game" featuring the leaked data... The "game" puts the selfies submitted by women head-to-head, instructing users to click on the one they prefer, with leaderboards of the "top 50" and "bottom 50"... [And one researcher calculates more than 12,000 posts on 4Chan referenced the Tea app over the three weeks after the leak.]
It is unsurprising that the leak was exploited. The app had drawn criticism ever since it had grown in popularity. Defamation, with the spread of unproven allegations, and doxxing, when someone's identifying information is published without their consent, were real possibilities. Men's groups had wanted to take the app down — and when they found the data breach, they saw it as a chance for retribution.
They weren't the only ones with a gripe against Tea. Back in 2023 the fiance of Tea's CEO founder approached the administrator of a collection of Facebook groups called "Are We Dating the Same Guy?" to see if she'd be the "face" of the Tea app, reports 404 Media. But they add that after Tea failed to recruit her, Tea "shifted tactics" to raid her Facebook groups instead: Tea paid influencers to undermine Are We Dating the Same Guy and created competing Facebook groups with nearly identical names. 404 Media also identified a number of seemingly hijacked Facebook accounts that spammed the real Are We Dating The Same Guy groups with links to Tea app.
Reviews for the Tea app show several women later thought the app was affiliated with their trusted Facebook groups, the reporter said this week on a 404 Media podcast.
And they add that founder Sean Cook took over the "Tara" personna that his fiance has used for technical support. "So he's on the app pretend to be a woman, talking to other women who are on the app in order to weed out men who are being deceptive..."
Thanks to Slashdot reader samleecole for sharing the article.
"Since the breach, more than 10 women have filed class actions against the company which owns Tea," the article points out, noting that leaked content is also spreading around social media: Since the breach, the BBC has found websites, apps and even a "game" featuring the leaked data... The "game" puts the selfies submitted by women head-to-head, instructing users to click on the one they prefer, with leaderboards of the "top 50" and "bottom 50"... [And one researcher calculates more than 12,000 posts on 4Chan referenced the Tea app over the three weeks after the leak.]
It is unsurprising that the leak was exploited. The app had drawn criticism ever since it had grown in popularity. Defamation, with the spread of unproven allegations, and doxxing, when someone's identifying information is published without their consent, were real possibilities. Men's groups had wanted to take the app down — and when they found the data breach, they saw it as a chance for retribution.
They weren't the only ones with a gripe against Tea. Back in 2023 the fiance of Tea's CEO founder approached the administrator of a collection of Facebook groups called "Are We Dating the Same Guy?" to see if she'd be the "face" of the Tea app, reports 404 Media. But they add that after Tea failed to recruit her, Tea "shifted tactics" to raid her Facebook groups instead: Tea paid influencers to undermine Are We Dating the Same Guy and created competing Facebook groups with nearly identical names. 404 Media also identified a number of seemingly hijacked Facebook accounts that spammed the real Are We Dating The Same Guy groups with links to Tea app.
Reviews for the Tea app show several women later thought the app was affiliated with their trusted Facebook groups, the reporter said this week on a 404 Media podcast.
And they add that founder Sean Cook took over the "Tara" personna that his fiance has used for technical support. "So he's on the app pretend to be a woman, talking to other women who are on the app in order to weed out men who are being deceptive..."
Thanks to Slashdot reader samleecole for sharing the article.
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It's a dating safety app for women. I think we can guess who used the hacked data to dox women, and the kind of people that justify that.
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That was the intent anyway. It turned out after the leak that it was mostly just women shitting on guys they've never dated.
So social media then? I mean isn't that what all online conversations (and many in person conversations) devolve in to?
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That was the intent anyway. It turned out after the leak that it was mostly just women shitting on guys they've never dated.
So social media then? I mean isn't that what all online conversations (and many in person conversations) devolve in to?
Just with names and addresses.
If the ladies want to gossip about men they were in situationships with, I've long advocated for in person commiseration with actual friends. Otherwise they are influenced by chaos brokers who enjoy the drama their chaos generates..
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That was the intent anyway. It turned out after the leak that it was mostly just women shitting on guys they've never dated.
And from what I understand, a fair number of women tried to hook up with some of the so called "abusive men". They thought their pictures were hot.
Bad Boy syndrome is real - I know because I was one. Especially being in a rock band - you often get your choice of women.
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Thereâ(TM)s at least a few lawsuits from men claiming information on there is fake: https://www.detroitnews.com/st... [detroitnews.com]
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Then you can stop right there and educate yourself.
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I'm sure there are some women who are using this to honestly help other women, but that number is probably vanishingly small.
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This is still not the right approach. Fighting hate with hate just creates more hate. Of course the haters never see that because hate is all they have in their pathetic lives.
Re: I don't have any sympathy (Score:3)
Did you just defend nonviolence over wars?
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WTF are you talking about?
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Saw a website that lets you rate pics of the outed Tea women and let me tell you, it was uuuugly!
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The entire purpose of this app was to dox/embarrass men. You reap what you sow.
While some will decide to call you an incel, like the waste of sperm AC below...
What the actual hell were they thinking - both the developers, and the women using the app? Easily identifiable, and noted that the women provided males ID's yet there is no concern. This has not one thing to do with involuntary celibacy, but a whole lot to do with people who are not terribly smart.
This was a gossip app, an attempt to reboot #metoo. And if you are identifiable in the app, and if the object of your scorn is
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The entire purpose of this app was to dox/embarrass men.
While there was some clear potential for abuse and so forth in the original app that does not appear to have been he primary intended purpose. What is being described in the article is something clearly different, total public doxing along with men "rating" the women's appearance against each other? One is a flawed attempt to create a relatively private environment for women to try to identify problematic or predatory men in order to protect themselves, the other is a childish attempt to harass the women in
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No....incels = shitty man + victim mentality (Score:5, Insightful)
Insulting someone for not having sex? Kind of a step lower than judging a woman for being a virgin. You know what incels are? Generally poor, disabled, and/or just too awkward of ugly. Either he's an incel and you're punching down in a pretty vile way or he's not, but it's not your business.
Fuck off with the pity party. No one calls good men incels. The insult is hurled when men blame feminism for their bad dating experiences or the entire female gender instead of improving themselves or putting more effort into dating...and no one is called an incel because they're poor, ugly, or disabled. Awkward?...not as sure, but again...if you're a nice guy, you're probably not being called an incel. No man who gets friend-zoned gets called an incel...and if you're getting friend-zoned, it means you're appealing enough to be in a woman's life, she just doesn't like you enough to build a life with you.
Poor men seem to have NO PROBLEM getting laid. How many single moms have an impoverished baby daddy?...it's a fucking cliche....same with ugly guys...everywhere I go, I see REALLY FUCKING UGLY guys having no problem getting a woman...often a great woman if he's actually a good guy. Women don't care much about looks, stereotypically.
You get called an incel when you blame the female gender for your failings...kind of like blaming the job market you don't have a job....hiding behind lame excuses instead of just accepting the fact that factors may work against you, but if you actually put the work into it, you'd get a mate.
Nearly all men face struggles dating...most of us stop complaining and adapt and eventually find someone. Yeah, you have to work harder, especially when you're a young man...that 19yo woman who is a 4 has 6s and 7s of all ages trying to get into her pants. That's not feminists' fault, that's simple market economic.It reversed in your 30s when you're a 45yo 5 and have 37yo 6's and 7's eager to date you...again...no one's fault, just the market.
Incels blame feminists or women or come up with lame Stacey/Chad stories....a billion excuses...blaming others and adopting a shitty victim mentality. No one respects someone who whines about how much of a victim they are instead of fixing themselves. I've met many incels. They're all horrible to be around even if you're not a woman.
If they put some effort into basic conversation skills and being pleasant and maybe asking about the women and taking an interest in the other person and adapting to the other person's needs...they'd have no problem getting someone...whether they're poor, ugly, or disabled...maybe not a supermodel...but some woman would take them if they actually had something to offer...incels never offer much on any front.
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I see it all the time.
This is one of the biggest giveaways that you haven't dated recently. I, and most of the single men that I know, had a far easier time dating women in our 20s due to the complete lack of social
This is based on conversations with people dating (Score:3, Insightful)
Whining is gross
Self-pity is gross
If you had 2 dates and one ranted about men the whole date and did that shitty "men are pigs" misandrist rant
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It's not intended to be a victim mentality. It's men expressing their problems and attempting to be supportive of each other. Society keeps telling men they need to express their emotions and then when some men do, they're told they're adopting a victim mentality and to stop complaining.
It's also interesting that you have empathy for women who struggle to find meaningful relationships but not for men who are undergoing similar struggles. In both situations, you appear to be blaming the men. If you recognize that men should increase their skills in engaging women, can't you also admit that many women can do a better job choosing the men in which they engage?
As I said before, most men won't claim that achieving a meaningful relationship is impossible for them. But the fact that it now takes so much more effort to find someone, as well as the fact that relationships don't carry the same sense of permanence they once used to, means that more good men are recognizing that the extra effort just isn't worth it. And while people can call those men losers or incels, given the fact that men are approximately 50% of the population, every man who takes himself out of the dating pool increases the competition among women looking for a man who is still trying. It's not just a problem for those men - it's a problem for everyone in society, yet many people are putting the majority of the blame squarely on men. That's certainly not persuading them to try any harder.
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[...] good men [...] And while people can call those men losers or incels,
No one calls them losers or incels. Bachelors maybe. You get called an incel if you have the toxic stew of rage and misogyny.
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[...] good men [...] And while people can call those men losers or incels,
No one calls them losers or incels. Bachelors maybe. You get called an incel if you have the toxic stew of rage and misogyny.
In theory.
In practice, the term seems to get slung around pretty indiscriminately. It often means (again, in practice) "doesn't hold my every political and social view", or "doesn't say all the shibboleths correctly".
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Hilarious, when you're replying to a thread that STARTED with exactly that. The op started a fact (that the app was started to doxx and slander men anonymously) and was, in turn, called an incel.
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It's also interesting that you have empathy for women who struggle to find meaningful relationships but not for men who are undergoing similar struggles.
I do have sympathy. He's also not wrong.
Here's the thing, most people are much, much worse actors than they believe. If you believe it's women's fault and are wallowing in self-pity this will come across in your interactions with dates, because chances are you're not a good actor.
This will be massively off-putting. I can't do anything about that, apart from
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I've already stated that most of the men complaining about this don't believe it's inherently women's fault. The undesirable female behaviors are the symptoms that they're complaining about, but they recognize the disease is social media and dating apps. People generally complain about symptoms since that's what they feel more directly.
Your perception seems to preclude the notion that it's possible for men to be reasonably dise
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I've already stated that most of the men complaining about this don't believe it's inherently women's fault.
Some do some don't. Some people point at the shitshow of dating apps, and the broken incentives and dark patterns in use. Others complain about "females" and how they behave using phraseology culled from Jordan Peterson videos.
Your perception seems to preclude the notion that it's possible for men to be reasonably disenfranchised from dating.
What do you mean by that?
What I'm saying is if you are in a
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It's not intended to be a victim mentality. It's men expressing their problems and attempting to be supportive of each other. Society keeps telling men they need to express their emotions and then when some men do, they're told they're adopting a victim mentality and to stop complaining.
The incels may be saying it's a support group, but no one is insulting them for being supportive. Most of us feel bad for good men who can't find an equally good woman with earnest effort. We insult those who blame women, feminism, or put low-effort, broad generalizations on the entire gender. Basically, if every woman you meet acts like a cunt...well...maybe you're the issue? If you're lonely, we honestly don't know it...when you blame feminism and women for your shortfalls...then you're likely to get
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>You got me...I'm married. I'm not short or ugly...but never the tallest or best looking in any room.
Ok, so that means you are probably pretty reasonable looking, and reasonably tall. All you need to be is top 20%, which it seems you are, or pretty close. This means that what most men are complaining about here isn't going to apply to you, you would have a relatively easy time dating in the current environment in the USA.
>I met my wife online in the early days of those apps, but seeing my single male
Your story seems paridoxal (Score:2)
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Lol what?
>Poor men seem to have NO PROBLEM getting laid.
Ok, a father of two, married twice, both from the second marriage speaking.
(just to save some of your time when choosing personal insults)
Poor men are 2 times more likely to have no female partner. Mkay?
https://ifs.org.uk/news/men-poor-backgrounds-have-lower-earnings-and-are-twice-likely-be-single-those-rich-families#:~:text=Men%20from%20poor%20backgrounds%20have,families%20%7C%20Institute%20for%20Fiscal%20Studies
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>No one calls good men incels. Lol what? >Poor men seem to have NO PROBLEM getting laid. Ok, a father of two, married twice, both from the second marriage speaking. (just to save some of your time when choosing personal insults) Poor men are 2 times more likely to have no female partner. Mkay? https://ifs.org.uk/news/men-po... [ifs.org.uk] >get called an incel when you Could happen pretty much for anything, including politely disagreeing with someone. >.a billion excuses It is embarrassing that shitpost like this gets upvoted on a slashdot.
I reposted the whole message so will give an overview.
Okay, we have a lot of people on Slashdot who will call a male an incel if he disagrees with a a woman or a man who blames all issues on men.
But perhaps it is time to look at this from a different perspective. If the left (and yes, it is largely the left) continuously calls out all men are rapists https://medium.com/@nikoknots/... [medium.com] https://nomas.org/its-notallme... [nomas.org] https://holgerschueler.medium.... [medium.com]
There are many more, the concept is that until n
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Bruh.
This is a lot of prejudicial assumptions about incels. You might think you're helping by excusing their behavior by associating their pathologies with other physical pathologies that carry a social stigma...
but in doing so you're excluding so many notable real world examples of loud mouthed, entitled, but otherwise simply lazy uninteresting men who embarrassed themselves by their own actions, and who paradoxically expect to be rewarded for reinforcing the social structures they see as preventing them f
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What does that have to do with Tea, though? Are you prepared to defend it on its merits, especially considering how badly it went for women using it?
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What does that have to do with Tea, though?
Slashdot is a tree-structured forum. Sometimes people discuss things which are peripheral to the story being discussed. Hope this helps.
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What does that have to do with Tea, though? Are you prepared to defend it on its merits, especially considering how badly it went for women using it?
There isn't much to defend.
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I never had a hard time getting laid when I was poor and awkward. Ugly is up for debate, I suppose. My level of disability is relatively mild but not zero.
You must have been a poor, awkward, possibly ugly and slightly disabled chad then obviously. Can't have been that you treated women lie people. I think you had the correct positive (or negative? which?) canthal tilt,
There are plenty of incels out there who are clearly just assholes,
That's the thing. Incel isn't an insult for people who don't have sex, it'
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You know what incels are? Generally poor, disabled, and/or just too awkward of ugly.
I never had a hard time getting laid when I was poor and awkward. Ugly is up for debate, I suppose. My level of disability is relatively mild but not zero. But I have always treated other people like humans, and never assumed they owed me sex. I would suggest this to anyone self-describing as an incel.
There are plenty of incels out there who are clearly just assholes, without the charisma that gets some assholes laid. They should try not idolizing assholes, and treating people like people. It might or might not lead to them having sex, but it definitely can help.
One of the unfortunate realities of the present situation is that any and all problems are without question, claimed to be the fault of men, and men only.
Which is to ask, how is it that the males of the species are troglodytes, while the females are perfection? This has been an increasing problem. a real elephant in the room the room to suggest that both sexes have responsibility.
Even Disney is trying to figure out how to get men to watch their movies after a couple decades of making movies that obvio
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One of the unfortunate realities of the present situation is that any and all problems are without question, claimed to be the fault of men, and men only.
It is a clear exaggeration to say that is some sort of universal claim. If you take a non-exaggerated view of that and examine specific areas though, there are plenty of problems in the world that can be largely be laid at the feet of mostly men. Take any politically derived problem, for example. There is little doubt that, at the upper levels of politics and policy making the majority of the players have been men and continue to be men up to the present day. Does that mean that women are "perfect" and woul
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One of the unfortunate realities of the present situation is that any and all problems are without question, claimed to be the fault of men, and men only.
It is a clear exaggeration to say that is some sort of universal claim. If you take a non-exaggerated view of that and examine specific areas though, there are plenty of problems in the world that can be largely be laid at the feet of mostly men.
You are the making example I'm talking about. Allow me to rephrase. to your satisfaction. Most problems are caused by men. Will that be acceptable? It is not possible to have a conversation without the problems are laid at the foot of men.
And there is where the problem lies. One does not make a single statement that men are not responsible for all or most problems in the sexual apartheid that has developed without a strong reaction denying the statement.
Which of course begs the question - do we want
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You are the making example I'm talking about. Allow me to rephrase. to your satisfaction. Most problems are caused by men. Will that be acceptable? It is not possible to have a conversation without the problems are laid at the foot of men.
I am saying that, at most levels, the world is still mostly run by men and has been for many centuries. So, most of the people that any problems originating from our existing power structures can be laid at the feet of are men. It's just a simple fact of the world. If you want to show that things would be just as bad if things were reversed so women were the ones in charge, you'll need to present a control group world where women have occupied the same social/political position for at least a few hundred ye
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You are the making example I'm talking about. Allow me to rephrase. to your satisfaction. Most problems are caused by men. Will that be acceptable? It is not possible to have a conversation without the problems are laid at the foot of men.
I am saying that, at most levels, the world is still mostly run by men and has been for many centuries. So, most of the people that any problems originating from our existing power structures can be laid at the feet of are men. It's just a simple fact of the world.
Would women do better? I hear that since men cause the problems, women will rule better than men. Don't you agree?
You probably want to cast me as the evil old white male, the very aspect of the patriarchy, the cause of problems, the person representing the group that demands oppression of women - you pretty much wrote that.
As it happens, we're only just hitting the 105th anniversary of women getting the right to vote in the US tomorrow.
And how do we deal with the never ending grievance. If you are spun up about something that happened in 1920, it brings up two things in my mind. My ancestors came from Europe, in the
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Would women do better? I hear that since men cause the problems, women will rule better than men. Don't you agree?
I've already said that it is largely untested. As I said, you would need a whole world for a few centuries to test with. Still, at a smaller scale, you can look at, for example, men's vs. women's prisons. Inmate on inmate violence is significantly higher in men's prisons, for example. Not to mention that, in women's prisons, male staff are frequently the greatest danger. Prisons are, of course, not the best sociological models because of what is essentially self-selection bias. Prisons concentrate the most
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When the history books are written, in the future, they will show you are part of teh problem, not the solution.
Name calling is for people who brook no opposition, and you err, present was that. This started out as a decent conversation, but you just had to play the misogynist card. I can't think of any names I called you, but I'll shut up now, and you can go on
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Hey homie, I don't deal with people whop go to the misogynist card. Consider that you went there, you expose perfectly teh present situation.
When the history books are written, in the future, they will show you are part of teh problem, not the solution.
A very convenient policy for you. In general a very convenient policy also for racists, xenophobes, etc. Refuse to engage with anyone who calls you out for bad behavior as if, somehow, by doing so they are being intolerant, or descending into insults etc. To reduce it to absurdity, it's like someone who planned and executed the killing of their spouse claiming that the term "murderer" is a vile insult, so anyone calling them that is invalid and should be ignored. Sorry, but no, words do mean things, if you
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He's had super-model wives and surrounded himself with better looking women than you will ever have.
It's not for his looks or his brains, gee what could it be? That rich people can afford more pussy than regular folks is not news. He would be lonelier than most if he did not have money.
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He's had super-model wives
And cheated on all of them.
surrounded himself with better looking women than you will ever have.
Including young woman "hostess" that were 18 as "masseuses". This proves that yes, money really can buy you anything, up to a supreme court judge's robes - with the judge still in 'em.
Speaking of - Where's Melania? We know where Kristi Nome is but she's a bit long in the tooth for Donnie.
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He's had super-model wives
And cheated on all of them.
As if powerful men haven't done this since, oh, Eternity.
Forget that he's Donald Trump for a second. With his wealth alone, he has a status that 99.999 percent of men will never have. And such men have legions of young, hot women just waiting to take the place of the current model on his arm. It's human nature, and it'll never end. High status men will always attract flocks of willing young women that will do anything to be on their arm and in their bed.
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As if powerful men haven't done this since, oh, Eternity.
Forget that he's Donald Trump for a second. With his wealth alone, he has a status that 99.999 percent of men will never have. And such men have legions of young, hot women just waiting to take the place of the current model on his arm. It's human nature, and it'll never end. High status men will always attract flocks of willing young women that will do anything to be on their arm and in their bed.
Just like Jesus - can't turn a page in the bible without hearing about how he was whoring himself out - proof that we can't possibly do better.
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Beats getting fucked in the ass by your spic father!
My spic father is dead, so I'm quite sure he's not fucking anyone, anally or otherwise.
Being raped by a sad old loser with a tiny mushroom dick who claims to be a financial genius while having underperformed the S&P ain't great, though. I guess it beats being raped by someone whose penis can be seen unaided, but his victims have made it clear that it is small comfort.
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Men who demonstrate violent behavior have likely violated several laws and should be brought up on charges. That creates a legal record of poor behavior. No man should be tracked by an app or any other mechanism to encourage vigilantism unless there is a papertrail of legal proof that the man in question is indeed violent. Anything else risks libel.
Somebody is going to get killed (Score:3, Interesting)
You can imagine what will happen with that data and the kind of obsessive compulsive insane dude that would be on the top of any list that do not date
Re:Somebody is going to get killed (Score:5, Insightful)
That is hugely problematic. First, everybody (including every woman) is "potentially violent". Second, if it gets easy to make accusations and those accused have no recourse against false accusations, many accusations will be false. This is why we have "innocent until proven guilty". This is not a luxury, it is necessary because too many people are willing to lie.
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That's basically treating the possibility that someone might not want to go on a date with you as in the same category as the state laying criminal charges against you; which is lunatic tier.
Obviously, anyone treating internet hearsay as particularly reliable is about as sensible as someone who believes online product reviews; but both
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What is wrong with you? I am merely pointing out how people behave. You are the "hysterical" one here.
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This is slander as a business model.
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Do I really need to point out how hysterical you sound? Applying the burden of proof and standards of evidence of criminal court to a free association question? Really?
He didn't say that the app should be banned; he just said it's problematic. Free speech and association means that you get to criticize stuff too.
Seems like a fair criticism. It provides a very low effort way to libel someone who you dislike or are ticked off at. Its limited demographic means that it's not so widely used that there is likely to be any social accountability for the accuser, and yet it apparently is used widely enough that lying about someone could cause real problems for them.
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Thanks. Apparently the person you answered to cannot read.
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By and large human beings do not like to commit violence against each other. We already social species and it doesn't do well for our survival.
So there is an obvious advantage to picking out who is and isn't prone to violence.
Jesus this threat is really tipping over the rock around here...
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Everybody is potentially violent. It is human nature. Most people need significant provocation to get violent, but everybody can do it if the situation is right. And that is exactly what "potentially violent" means.
That does not mean that everybody is a threat to others that have not threatened them. Now, "prone to violence" is an entirely different thing, even if still fuzzily defined.
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Interest.
I read the post and thought, "what kind of stupid, delusion bullshit is this?"
And then I saw who posted it, and thought, "that explains it."
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First, everybody (including every woman) is "potentially violent".
What does that have to do with women reporting men as having acted aggressively?
Second, if it gets easy to make accusations and those accused have no recourse against false accusations,
Why would they lie if they don't even know you?
many accusations will be false.
I'm an old man now. Been quite the ladies man when I was young, strong, not fat and had hair. Never once accused of being violent or even discourteous.
This is why we have "innocent until proven guilty".
Dude, you aren't going to prison over an app entry. Are you worried your credit rating will get you three hots and a cot? It's the same difference. It's someone's opinion of you.
This is not a luxury, it is necessary because too many people are willing to lie.
What isn't a luxury, the ability to confront someone wit
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This is why we have "innocent until proven guilty".
Innocent until proven guilty is for actual committed crimes, not for the potential judging of people. I've come across countless people who are creepy as fuck. You ever heard someone say "you don't want to fuck with someone". That's what's being discussed here. You don't walk through (to borrow a scene from Die Hard 3) Washington Park with a sign around your neck saying "I hate ni**ers" and expect to come out the other end in one piece, because you are not stupid. And this action of yours is very much *NOT*
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It is really amazing how completely without insight you are and how completely without the ability to actually understand text.
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Well if you meant something other than what I interpreted from your post it shows you're bad at communicating. You fault buddy. The only person who has the power to make me think you are not an idiot is you, and you're not helping yourself.
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But.... But... #Believeallwomen!
(Of course, nobody seems to discuss that the logical consequence of that is there were really witches in Salem.)
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That is hugely problematic. First, everybody (including every woman) is "potentially violent". Second, if it gets easy to make accusations and those accused have no recourse against false accusations, many accusations will be false. This is why we have "innocent until proven guilty". This is not a luxury, it is necessary because too many people are willing to lie.
Lets be honest, you knew what they meant even though they should have said something more descriptive like "prone to violence" or "poor impulse control".
Not that I disagree with your point. Any system like this is open to abuse and if it's open to abuse it will be abused. The people being discussed have no means (or right) to reply and that makes it perfect for anyone with a grudge (and hell hath no fury...) what is worse is that applications like this tend to attract the least scrupulous of individuals,
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I was answering to a claim of "potentially violent". I am not in the habit to redefine statements I answer to.
Incidentally, something like this is fully illegal in Europe: If somebody else puts your name into such a system, you have to be informed within 30 days (even if they do not have your address, does not matter) and you have to be asked for consent. If you fail to give that, all your PID has to be deleted.
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then he can file a libel suit,
The problem with Tea is you will never get to know someone accused you of anything, you just rest very perplexed on why you lost your charm and ladies unexplainably don't want to date you anymore. If someone published "Tom is a jerk" front page of a newspaper then Tom could sue or contact the newspaper for a Right of Reply which would probably be granted even if this procedure is not formally compulsory by law. But with Tea, you are not aware of a libel so you can't sue anyone. You can't even register on th
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then he can file a libel suit,
you just rest very perplexed on why you lost your charm
Or your job.
Many people have women as higher ups now, and that's assuming the company don't have an absolutely abhorrent HR sector that spies on the employees in every social media available, and will get you fired for any sort of hearsay.
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Indeed. And that is why a "safe space" for character assassination is unacceptable.
Outside of actual criminal charges (Score:1)
Now racism yeah. If they smell that you're in trouble.
Racism is the only thought crime in america.
That's because once people know you're a racist it is basically impossible to separate your racist beliefs from racist actions.
So every single boss is going to be worried about yo
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It don't need to be true to be said on the internet.
Women, as human beings are perfectly capable of lying to hurt someone on purpose, just like they're perfectly capable of pointing a gun to your face to steal your things and so on, so forth.
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The problem with Tea is you will never get to know someone accused you of anything, you just rest very perplexed on why you lost your charm and ladies unexplainably don't want to date you anymore.
Ok, but how is this different than how it works offline? Consider any he said/she said after a breakup between people with common friends and acquaintances. Take high school, as an example. People can find out years later, or just plain never about the rumors that were circulating about them that affected how people treated them and they didn't know why at the time.
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Telling your friends is slander, using the app is libel. "Libel is usually considered more harmful because it can be more permanent and widely distributed" https://www.nolo.com/legal-enc... [nolo.com]
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Telling your friends is slander, using the app is libel.
I did mention high school. At least where cell phones are not available for use in class, there's a lot of note passing for communication. Also, the libel/slander distinction held a lot more weight back when libel mostly meant in print and "in print" mostly meant in a widely distributed print publication. Consider that the legal definition in most contexts has always required publication, meaning that a private communication between two individuals in writing would not traditionally be libel. It does get a
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I agree the definitions of spoken/written are a bit irrelevant. The practical difference is the reach of the message.
Writing "Tom is a jerk and has AIDS" on a small has a short-lived effect on a small group of friends, who might pass the information but most likely will not and will move on with their lives and forget about it.
Inserting the same note into an app results in simultaneously showing it to all potential partners in the country continuously and for an indefinite amount of time.
While the concept o
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It does. One certainly could argue that this app might have an order of magnitude larger reach than a private social group. Of course, this story is about that information as well as the private information of the women being distributed much, much more widely. Several orders of magnitude more widely than the app itself. With obviously much, much nastier intent. Oh and, also, if they truly objected to the discussion going on about the men on the platform, it's a bit weird that they then distributed that for
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But the people using or maintaining the database don't have to prove anything first? You don't have to be an "incel" to be upset about that. There's also a similar app that tracks abusive women and it could be just as bad.
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No they will not. This is a site for 1%'er women dating 0.1%'er men.
Ow! My sides!
If women want to meet "0.1%" men, they are going to have to do a lot more than sign up for a website with rather low bars for membership. And then if you develop a market where there is a 10:1 ratio between the buyers and sellers, there is going to be a figurative bloodbath.
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The purpose of the app was to identify men who were potentially violent so that women wouldn't go out today for them and be in danger.
However, this did not end up being the function of the app, as it ended up being used to gossip and reputation destroy overwhelming majority of non-violent men who had no ability to defend their reputation.
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The original purpose of Only Fans was basically a Patreon clone.
I think the MBAs call it "pivoting."
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That was the excuse indeed.
But all that have stated with "are we dating the same guy" cesspit on FB.
There is more wonderful stuff on FB, e.g. a group in which women brag about assaulting their male partners.
Almost no sympathy... (Score:1, Interesting)
I get the sentiment some people have over this entire platform supporting a negative narrative. It is disgusting and it is BS.
On the other hand... this entire tyranny online of doxxing people for any minor infraction, deemed by some dumb haxor bitches personality, is worse.
Never put info online (Score:1)
Never put any of you personal information online.
Proverbs 21:19 (Score:2)
I can see reasons that some men might want to know who uses this app.
Aand.. the comments are 99.999% toxic. (Score:2)
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Perpetuate that middle-school playground rumor mill bullshit times 10,000
But do it on a web site and increase the odds that this network will be outed by 10,000 times. This sort of crap has been going on for hundreds (thousands?) of years. Quietly, in the background. And it just didn't get very far. Now, thanks to technology, it has "gone big". But also become a centralized target for doxxing and hacks. The "bad guys" are known nation-wide. But so are the gossips. Also, look at the history of Tea, it's origins in Reddit groups and the games people played to back stab each other