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Chinese Cluster Now World's Top Innovation Hotspot, UN Says (yahoo.com) 52

Posted by msmash from the geography-race dept.
Shenzhen-Hong Kong-Guangzhou has overtaken Tokyo-Yokohama to become the world's top cluster for innovation, the United Nations said Monday. From a report: The UN's World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) said the Chinese cluster had leapfrogged its Japanese rival in its 2025 Global Innovation Index. The change at the top of the world's 100 leading innovation clusters was down to WIPO broadening the criteria to include venture capital investments to formulate the annual rankings.

The UN agency dealing with patenting and innovation previously only used patent filing and scientific publishing data to identify local concentrations of world-leading innovation activity. "Venture capital investment activity helps capture how scientific and technological knowledge translates into start-up creation and, ultimately, new goods and services in the marketplace," WIPO said. The agency said Shenzhen-Hong Kong-Guangzhou and Tokyo-Yokohama "make a massive contribution to global scientific publications and patenting outputs", together accounting for nearly one in five patent applications filed globally.
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  • WIPO (Score:2, Troll)

    by phantomfive ( 622387 )
    Incidentally China is the country preventing Wikipedia from observing WIPO [wikimediafoundation.org].
    • Wikipedia is not exactly qualified to observe anything. It depends on the good will of subject matter experts and the quality of the articles varies inversely with the level of obsession of the editors. The thing it has going for itself is scale in subject matter and timeliness on news. On the other hand, accuracy isn't one of its strengths.
      • You are definitely distracting from the real story [dominotheory.com].

        China has power in the WIPO.
        • What's the real story? I'm not sure I get it.

          AFAICT Wikipedia wants to be able to "help shape copyright decisions that directly affect their work, which in turn affects millions of readers across the world."

          Why should that kind of industry lobbying be encouraged? My personal view (which you are welcome to disagree on of course) is that copyright legislation is best discussed and legislated in national parliaments only, with effect on respective national territories. The needs of a parent organization of

          • What's the real story? I'm not sure I get it.

            That's obvious. It's probably intentional. You are not trying to understand.

            • Or maybe I don't consider China flexing its power in the WIPO context as threatening, or newsworthy. I must be getting old, but I've seen all countries do it. It doesn't change that I tend to side against any private companies, for profit or not, trying to influence public policy.

  • Baloney (Score:4, Informative)

    by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @07:24AM (#65632272)

    Anyone can name innovations that have come from Silicon Valley .. like for example the multiple fundamental breakthroughs in AI (for example transformer architecture, LLMs etc.), aerospace (in which China is about 15 years behind the US), and also robotics.

    These places doing incremental advances can't compete with entire original concepts we see emerge from Silicon Valley.

    • And yet, people from the USA think that their latest invention is sliced bread.

    • Oh, no! The US lost its innovation crown to China! Hmm, wow, China took the crown from Japan. The US wasn't even at the top. You know what this will motivate. Yes, we need a different innovation metric. Problem solved.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by _merlin ( 160982 )

        Yeah, but note that China overtook Japan because they changed the metric to include venture capital activity. If anything, that change would favour the US, given it's the home of VC-backed startups. If the US doesn't even benefit from changing to a metric that strongly favours them, what does that say?

      • And yet, 3 of the most valuable companies in the world are in Silicon Valley, the other 2 are in Seattle.
        You can rattle off all days innovations that come from the US... I challenge you to name one that came from Shenzhen-Hong Kong-Guangzhou, other than mass production, modification, and theft of Western IP.

        Go ahead- I'll wait.

        The metric really is pretty stupid.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      A lot of 5G and WiFi 6/7 tech is from China. EVs are dominated by Chinese tech, especially batteries and drivetrain components.

      Even on the LLM front, arguably the biggest innovation was Deepseek managing to massively reduce the cost of training the models. Before they did that, it was only very large companies that could afford the billions of Euros in training costs that could participate in that market.

      I expect China will become the leader in aerospace soon. On the aircraft side they have some competitive

  • Regardless of all else (Score:3)

    by jovius ( 974690 ) on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @11:18AM (#65632752)

    It stems from the power of a nation that agrees on the math-physical reality and executes a unified strategy to realise its talent pool. It can be replicated.

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