
Taliban Leader Bans Wi-Fi In an Afghan Province To 'Prevent Immorality' (apnews.com) 153
An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Associated Press: The Taliban leader banned fibre optic internet in an Afghan province to "prevent immorality," a spokesman for the administration said Tuesday. It's the first time a ban of this kind has been imposed since the Taliban seized power in August 2021, and leaves government offices, the private sector, public institutions, and homes in northern Balkh province without Wi-Fi internet. Mobile internet remains functional, however.
Haji Attaullah Zaid, a provincial government spokesman, said there was no longer cable internet access in Balkh by order of a "complete ban" from the leader Hibatullah Akhundzada. "This measure was taken to prevent immorality, and an alternative will be built within the country for necessities," Zaid told The Associated Press. He gave no further information, including why Balkh was chosen for the ban or if the shutdown would spread to other provinces.
Haji Attaullah Zaid, a provincial government spokesman, said there was no longer cable internet access in Balkh by order of a "complete ban" from the leader Hibatullah Akhundzada. "This measure was taken to prevent immorality, and an alternative will be built within the country for necessities," Zaid told The Associated Press. He gave no further information, including why Balkh was chosen for the ban or if the shutdown would spread to other provinces.
Can't stop the signal, Mal... (Score:3)
Yes, they could try to locate everyone that manages to use banned technology like this, but as commodity-level technology designed to be used by even unskilled individuals, they're not going to be able to stop people from using technology. All they'll be able to do is to punish them after finding them.
Re:Can't stop the signal, Mal... (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, they could try to locate everyone that manages to use banned technology like this, but as commodity-level technology designed to be used by even unskilled individuals, they're not going to be able to stop people from using technology. All they'll be able to do is to punish them after finding them.
Yup, 'cause the Taliban is known for giving up easily and being lenient to people breaking morality decrees. /s
Re:Can't stop the signal, Mal... (Score:4, Insightful)
If I'm reading the fine article correctly this isn't just about WiFi. They had a ban on cable internet in place already. A ban on fiber internet is being put in place, likely more of closing a loophole than anything really new as people could argue that fiber is not cable. The WiFi ban is likely also closing a loophole as people were signing up for WiFi service to their homes, using WiFi at cafes, or such so as to get faster internet than they could have with cellular. I'd expect the next step to restricting communications is somehow getting cellular internet slowed or restricted somehow. Then people might be using 14.4 bps cellular modems for internet, that way they can LAN party like its 1999.
Anyone else have a Motorola Timeport with the serial interface cable for mobile internet access? I believe I got rid of mine in 2006. Someone must still be making some kind of equivalent yet.
With no WiFi there's no cheap and easy way to leach off what little internet access is allowed for government and approved businesses. With the remaining access to the internet by the general public restricted to mobile phones there's a single point of access, and this is controlled to where they can shut it down quickly. The justification for shutting off cellular phone access is that the system has been used to trigger explosives directly.
Thinking of remote triggering of explosives I'm reminded of reading something about a deputy sheriff coming to some kind of mine or demolition site to register some complaint. There were big *HUGE* signs that any RF gear was restricted inside the area. The deputy demanded the work stop until he saw some paperwork. The foreman showed the papers, the deputy went to his cruiser, keyed up the mic on his radio to verify the papers where legit, and... the explosives went off. It's not like this was any kind of special radio, likely 50 watt UHF business band radio that produced just enough RF noise to set off the primers on the explosives. It was a good thing that the area was cleared before this yahoo cop violated a very basic safety protocol. If there's an intention to set off explosives from a distance then they can use mobile radios instead. This is off the shelf stuff, and can allow for communication range over miles. To avoid random triggering like in the example I gave they can put in a bit more work on the filters and such than that used for demolition work.
Tracking down WiFi to locate and punish those violating the restrictions is likely trivial enough to keep people from trying it, especially if the punishment is severe. What might be difficult to trace is satellite internet. I'm not sure what kind of power, frequencies, and such that satellite internet uses. With the ability to focus and direct the RF up to satellites I'm guessing that this could be difficult to track, at least from the ground. The connection to any devices would have to be by wires, of course, or it's just back to having easily located WiFi again.
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Re: Can't stop the signal, Mal... (Score:2)
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Maybe dude, but your talking a country with extremely low technical literacy and a totalarian government.
The regional govenors making these decisions might be ignorant-ass country bumpkins, but they've got a militia behind them thats more than skilled at pulling off some intensely barbaric shit if provoked.
No ones going up against that for reddit access.
Re: Can't stop the signal, Mal... (Score:2)
I thought we were talking about Afghanistan, not America. Is 'Taliban' the new nickname for $incumbentparty ?
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Well since the banned technology is wired, it won't be very difficult to trace the wires...
Also not very difficult to cut them.
You can't ban WiFi! (Score:3, Insightful)
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Why are white liberal women so enamored with Islam?
Where are you seeing this?
Re:You can't ban WiFi! (Score:5, Insightful)
They're not.
Liberals defend mainstream Muslims from attacks on their freedom of religion and from smears related to their religion. Because conservatives do not understand nuance they decide this means Liberals love Islam and think its the best and want to marry it, despite those same liberals doing the same for pretty much any religious group that's under attack, as Muslims were after 9/11. See also Gaza where RWNJs assume all liberals hate Jews and worship Allah, or think Hamas is great, because they don't want to see innocent Palestinians killed.
I've only come across one "liberal woman" who actually suggested life might be better, in some limited ways, in countries like Iran, and she was a nutcase, not representative of liberals in general.
You need to get out more and realize there's more to life than cheering or booing every identifiable group of people like a fucking football team.
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Do liberals defend other religions that are smeared/attacked by Muslims? Honest question, because I've never seen that type of parity.
Re:You can't ban WiFi! (Score:4, Informative)
Yes, just ask your local ACLU. The thing that conservatives don't seem to understand is that liberals believe that no one should be "smeared/attacked" because of their race, creed, or color. Even conservatives.
Muslims have been under constant assault from the right since 9/11, which is probably why it's the only one you've noticed. Many conservatives Christians also seem to think that they're "under attack" when someone stops them from violating the rights of others or when people from other religious traditions are allowed to express their beliefs in the same public spaces. Before you complain about being oppressed, I should inform you that the ACLU also defends conservative Christians. That's what it means to have principles.
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Liberals are fairly consistent in defending people's right to their faith while speaking out against people who want to impose their faith on others.
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You already posted this. I know you're a simpleton but please don't spam the channel with the same post.
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...ShahJahan who hired Hindu laborers to construct the Taj Mahal later brutally cut their hands off...
I checked this, and it seems to be an urban legend dating back to the 1960s. There's no evidence to support it.
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Here [newschecker.in], here [sakshipost.com], or here [thewire.in] good enough for you?
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Theres growing evidence from cognitive psychology that the primary differences between liberal and conservative people is rooted in thinking styles, and that these seem to have some degree of neurological basis. In essense liberals tend to be more pluralistic thinkers whereas conservatives are more polar thinkers. The end result is where liberals see differences and sort of go "Ok, thats interesting!" conservatives will see differences and go "Ok, thats dangerous!". This becomes particularly notable when e
Re: You can't ban WiFi! (Score:3)
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Only the Sith deal in absolutes.
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I've read a few times now the big difference is empathy. Kind of stands to reason too, conservatives cant properly see themselves having a problem they don't have so they assume the person having the problem shouldn't be having it and so fuck'em, they shouldn't need any help either.
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Those liberals are full of contradictions...
You should defend muslims, they have a right to practice their religion, traditions and culture!
Wait, their traditions include treating women as property? No muslims are bad and they must abandon their traditions!
So do muslims have a right to uphold their traditions, or should they be forced to change them? Can't have it both ways.
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Wait, their traditions include treating women as property? No muslims are bad and they must abandon their traditions!
Nice, point to the religion's worst practitioners as if they're the norm. It works well for demonizing any minority group.
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I said "their traditions".
Even if some of them have chosen to drop their traditions, that is still a part of the history of their religion. Christians have their share of history and varied degrees of practice too.
So do you embrace and protect historical traditions, or do you force them to change? And if you're forcing them to change to conform to your views what's one tradition vs another?
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So do you embrace and protect historical traditions, or do you force them to change?
I don't demonize the many for the actions of the few. I'm not playing whatever silly game you're trying to play by changing the subject.
Re: You can't ban WiFi! (Score:2)
Actually, perhaps liberals need to realize that defending barbarians, and inviting barbarians into your living room, is not a path to success.
Speaking as a European, the influx of people from Islamic countries has amply demonstrated that these cultures are incompatible with Western values. These cultures do not deserve tolerance.
Re: You can't ban WiFi! (Score:2)
Radical Islam is the snake hiding in the grass. Moderate Islam is the grass hiding the snake. NYC Mayorial candidate Mamdani is an evil traitor to India+USA's democratic+pluralistic societies. NYC Mayorial candidate Mamdani is a viper in human clothing, he celebrated the terrorist attacks by Islamic terror rogue nation Pakistan/Pukistan against freedom loving dharmic/democratic/Hindu India and also the 911 attacks against the USA.
Moreover the Barbaric Islamic invader to India ShahJahan who hired Hindu l
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Why are white right-wingnut males so enamored with *masculinity*?
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4. Stupidity.
Re: You can't ban WiFi! (Score:2)
Radical Islam is the snake hiding in the grass. Moderate Islam is the grass hiding the snake. NYC Mayorial candidate Mamdani is an evil traitor to India+USA's democratic+pluralistic societies. NYC Mayorial candidate Mamdani is a viper in human clothing, he celebrated the terrorist attacks by Islamic terror rogue nation Pakistan/Pukistan against freedom loving dharmic/democratic/Hindu India and also the 911 attacks against the USA.
Moreover the Barbaric Islamic invader to India ShahJahan who hired Hindu l
Re: They're not (Score:2)
Stop using passive voice to excuse whomever from violence.
"Stop letting?"
Call a goddam spade a spade
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No one stopped letting Christians do anything, they were in fact very much running the show when they moderated their behavior. What the Muslim world needs to moderate itself is wealth and affluence, it worked for us in the West.
Now that I think about it though it's not a guarantee of success, just look at Israel. It is what worked for us though.
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Should have banned TCP/IP (Score:2)
Re:Should have banned TCP/IP (Score:5, Insightful)
Why stop at WiFi?
The author doesn't know the differences between WiFi, fiber and the internet.
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TFA mentions that mobile internet still works, though. Maybe the article was AI generated.
Re: Should have banned TCP/IP (Score:2)
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Why stop at WiFi?
The author doesn't know the differences between WiFi, fiber and the internet.
Well this is a religious decree based on religious grounds... Stop expecting it to make sense.
And to a lot of people, WiFi is synonymous with internet. People who believe in religion so strongly they will fight wars to have it enforced tend not to be very bright to begin with.
Should have banned themselves (Score:2)
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Let's ride this crazy train (Score:2)
So, if WiFi causes immorality (no, not immortality, stupid autocorrect)
AND
Musk runs the world's largest space-based wireless internet network
Does that make him the world's most immoral man?
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So, if WiFi causes immorality (no, not immortality, stupid autocorrect)
AND
Musk runs the world's largest space-based wireless internet network
Does that make him the world's most immoral man?
No, it's just a coincidence that he's the world's most immoral man.
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No, it's just a coincidence that he's the world's most immoral man.
More immoral than the Taliban? I mean I know he and his DOGE goons went around shutting down parts of the US government but they did it by firing people, not shooting and beheading them.
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Elmo just didn't stick around long enough to get the chance. The shooting, kidnapping, and torturing has already started, the beheadings probably aren't too far behind. Poor fellow... he had his chainsaw ready and everything...
Still, history will not be kind to him.
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The taliban don't consider themselves to be immoral. In fact quite the opposite, they consider themselves to be the moral police enforcing what they believe to be the words of Allah.
In fact, one of the key reasons the taliban were founded was to put a stop to the practice of raping young boys, something which was extremely common in afghanistan at the time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Whatever you might feel about the other policies of the taliban, im sure most people would be in full agreement with the
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Re: Let's ride this crazy train (Score:2)
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Starlink isn't WiFi.
I doubt the Taliban would make the distinction, and I'm not going to ask them since people like me tend to lose important body parts just for setting foot in places they control.
How to cause a revolution... (Score:2)
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That blocks access to PornHub. You have to be very brave or very stupid to invite the backlash for that decision.
It helps to not have a democracy, then you can just behead the dissenters as radical enemies of the state.
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Re: How to cause a revolution... (Score:2)
Not ME.
Taliban still love hookers and blackjack, what're you crazy?!
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The country had their revolution. The Taliban was embraced the second the USA pulled out.
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Considering that most fully practicing Muslims consider watching porn just as evil as eating pork, I don't think there are going to be too many people upset.
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Most islamic countries publicly block access to sites like pornhub. It was most likely blocked in afghanistan before the taliban regained power.
I read it... (Score:2)
huh (Score:2)
99 problems... (Score:2)
...but WiFi ain't one.
Hide your kids (Score:2)
Hide your wi-fi.
Have to wonder about "religious" "leaders" (Score:4, Insightful)
Even the most casual study of divinity will show that almost all religions consider simply thinking of some things is a "sin". Almost all religions grant mankind free will, and the supreme being (call them what you may) "allows" for the "choice of sin".
So, by prohibiting "sin", they are, in effect, declaring themselves to be smarter than their Deity, who, in The Wisdom of that Deity, granted the ability to "sin".
I'm pretty sure that's not how that works.
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So, by prohibiting "sin", they are, in effect, declaring themselves to be smarter than their Deity, who, in The Wisdom of that Deity, granted the ability to "sin".
Saving people from themselves is a very, very common trope in religious adherence. In Christianity, there's the metaphor of a shepherd watching over his flock - implying that if left to their own devices, the sheep would get themselves into trouble or fall prey to predators. The sheep still have free will, but have to be prevented from allowing that free will to lead them astray from the flock.
Religion wouldn't have lasted as long as it did if they didn't come up with some explanation for nearly any hole
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Religion wouldn't have lasted as long as it did if they didn't come up with some explanation for nearly any hole you tried to poke in their beliefs.
And there's a reason the Inquisition burned books. Oddly, Ireland is about the only place where those that would burn the books were themselves burned in the dark ages. It's something Seneca wrote about before the dark ages and before the inquisition, off hand, can't recall the exact wording, but the conclusion is that some have a need to put others in charge of their lives so that they don't have to take responsibility for themselves and their outcomes. Sort of like the conservative meme that being poor is
Re: Have to wonder about "religious" "leaders" (Score:2)
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Exactly this. It's the "nuclear deterrent" of ancient kings.
Convince the people that you have an all powerful weapon on your side, so that any attempt to oppose your rule would result in a certain horrible fate for them.
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Even the most casual study of divinity will show that almost all religions consider simply thinking of some things is a "sin". Almost all religions grant mankind free will, and the supreme being (call them what you may) "allows" for the "choice of sin".
So, by prohibiting "sin", they are, in effect, declaring themselves to be smarter than their Deity, who, in The Wisdom of that Deity, granted the ability to "sin".
I'm pretty sure that's not how that works.
This is how religious control works,
1. Declare that something normal and natural is a "sin".
2. Everyone sins.
3. The get-out from your sin is to be forgiven by religious authorities. Of course only the deity can forgive sin but the deity has representatives on earth that is totally not doing this for their own benefit and power.
4. Once forgiven, people go out and commit more sin.
5. Rinse and repeat.
Remember that it won't take much for this state of affairs to come to western nations. The US was
A revolutionary theory (Score:2)
Probably not the case here... (Score:4, Insightful)
But the last time a government banned the internet, it got removed and replaced by someone that won a discord poll.
Balkh province (Score:5, Informative)
Damn, you guys are morons. Even the Taliban knows banning WiFi has NOTHING to do with immorality or Wi-Fi .. people in Balkh don't like the Taliban. It was, and is, a Northern Alliance stronghold (now called National Resistance Front - NRF ), they are annoying the heck out of the Taliban. Reference: https://www.afintl.com/en/2025... [afintl.com] https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] https://www.afintl.com/en/2025... [afintl.com] https://moderndiplomacy.eu/202... [moderndiplomacy.eu]. This ban will make things a lot worse for the Taliban there, not better. The reason for the WiFi ban is because the Taliban thinks the attacks on them were coordinated through Wi-Fi and that the NRF use it to communicate.
Whew! (Score:2)
Thought he was going to ban wifey for a moment.
My guess is... (Score:2)
...the 'leader' still has his 'dancing boys'?
Back to the Stone Age (Score:2)
The government (controlled by the Mullahs or whatever) basically want the population living a Stone Age existence compared to the rest of the world. Poor, ignorant, and on the verge of starving will keep the peons in line.
I'm sure they'd also like to tattoo everyone at birth, or at least the women (so they'd know who they 'belonged' to).
I forget who said it, but the truth is that some cultures are better than others.
Did they infiltrate Michigan? (Score:2)
https://www.wlns.com/capital-r... [wlns.com]
Sad (Score:2)
While generally IDGAF about Afghanistan (sorry if I'm looking bigoted) I feel sad looking at the state of Slashdot editing. Confusing Wi-fi with cable internet is something I'd expect from the Cosmopolitan, but here? SMH.
So who is going to airdrop the porn? (Score:2)
I assume the CIA or similar is looking into parachuting nudie magazines into the territory.
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Wrong demographic.
It'll be Farmers Weekly.... This week the centerfold is a goat
And the Christian Taliban is doing it here (Score:2)
Meanwhile, Taliban leaders are watching porn.... (Score:2)
Slashdot has gone downhill (Score:2)
IT went like this (Score:2)
Taliban tech B: go fix it
Taliban tech A: I have no idea how, I tried restarting the computer and it didn't do anything
Taliban tech B: restart the router.
Taliban tech A: I tried, but it was smoking and wouldn't turn back on.
Taliban tech B: replace the router
Taliban tech A: I can , but I have no idea how to program it.
Taliban tech B: Manager, we can't fix it.
Taliban Manager: Shit. Lets just tell everyone the internet is immoral so we don't have to fix it.
Tal
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Because pointing out some minor difference in religions that all basically came from the same area of the world has become something of a traditional reason for conflict throughout most of human history.
It's like if the little puppets on It's a Small World started shooting at each other because one group had more twirling ducks than the other.
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What does the Taliban mean by "immoral"?
Listening to modern music (a popular luxury during the US occupation)? Reading We
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Islam is basically Christianity minus the bat-shit crazy fairy-tales.
Trust me, Islam has more than its share of bat-shit crazy fairy-tales. Almost all religions do.
Islam is still in its blood-thirsty "kill-'em-all" phase, right about where Christianity was 1000 or so years ago (Crusades, anyone?). Give Islam another 200 ~ 300 years and it'll start to become watered down and less frothy, more 'reasonable', etc etc. Still bat-shit crazy, but slightly less violent.
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It's more that the traditionally christian countries have developed faster, with higher standards of education and more emphasis on critical thinking rather than blindly believing a 2000 year old book.
If you look at church attendance rates in christian countries they have been in severe decline for years. A lot of younger people have abandoned religion entirely, and religious leaders have been forced to become more moderate in an attempt to slow the decline.
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If you look at church attendance rates in christian countries they have been in severe decline for years. A lot of younger people have abandoned religion entirely
Yes, and this pleases me greatly. There may be some hope for this world after all.
overgeneralizing much? read up (Score:2)
Hindu and Catholic, Priest and Scholar: A Love Story | Prof. Francis Clooney & Swami Sarvapriyananda
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=... [youtube.com]
The Harmonious Relationship Between Hinduism and Science
Hinduism, one of the world's oldest living religions, has a profound connection with science that spans thousands of years [1]. The ancient Hindu scriptures, such as the Vedas and Upanishads, contain descriptions of the universe and human existence that are remarkably consistent with modern scientific theories [2]. Th
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How many religions call for removing internet access? Even the Amish don't do that any more. Or at least the Amish around here don't.
Rules vary between Amish communities, and when internet access is allowed it's generally limited to business purposes. Also, some Mennonite sects do allow the use of technology and they're frequently mistaken by outsiders as being Amish.
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We don't understand how the universe began but I don't need to take it on faith that it did.
Cogito ergo sum
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The latest thinking is that the universe never "began", it has always been in existence. Maybe not in this particular form, but it has always existed.
In other words, there never was a "time" when there was "nothing". The universe, in whatever form(s) it may have taken, has always existed.
And no, pointing to or complaining about the problem of an "infinite regress" won't make any difference.
1) Matter and energy can't be created or destroyed, right? They can only change form, right?
2) If they can't be created
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Thats the difference between science and religion.
Science is ok with saying "we don't know the answer".
Religion is not ok with that, so they would rather make an answer up than admit they don't know.
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Absolutely, positively, 100%.
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Harris is a christian, Biden is a christian...
Who exactly was the non religious candidate that people could have voted for?
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Re: Parachute Starlink in (Score:2)
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I don't think that country is even remotely close to being able to do what you're saying.
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Someone would steal the tower for scrap metal.