Librarians Are Being Asked To Find AI-Hallucinated Books (404media.co) 50
Libraries nationwide are fielding patron requests for books that don't exist after AI-generated summer reading lists appeared in the Chicago Sun-Times and Philadelphia Inquirer earlier this year. Reference librarian Eddie Kristan told 404 Media the problem began in late 2022 following GPT-3.5's release but escalated dramatically after the newspapers published lists created by a freelancer using AI without verification.
A Library Freedom Project survey found patrons increasingly trust AI chatbots over human librarians and become defensive when told their AI-recommended titles are fictional. Kristan now routinely checks WorldCat's global catalog to verify titles exist. Collection development librarians are requesting digital vendors remove AI-generated books from platforms while academic libraries struggle against vendors implementing flawed LLM-based search tools and AI-generated summaries that undermine information literacy instruction.
A Library Freedom Project survey found patrons increasingly trust AI chatbots over human librarians and become defensive when told their AI-recommended titles are fictional. Kristan now routinely checks WorldCat's global catalog to verify titles exist. Collection development librarians are requesting digital vendors remove AI-generated books from platforms while academic libraries struggle against vendors implementing flawed LLM-based search tools and AI-generated summaries that undermine information literacy instruction.
Lie-brarians (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: Lie-brarians (Score:4, Funny)
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It is a general trend: People believe some random crap over expert statements.
Re:Lie-brarians (Score:4, Insightful)
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Indeed. It does not get much more stupid and disconnected than that. Yes, you should not simply believe a single expert that disagrees with most other experts. In that case you should look at the connections of that expert and what the argument made is. But when several unconnected experts say the same thing, you should really assume they have a point and quite likely are right.
That idea seems to be too complex for many people though and the MAGA idiots are unsurpassed in this pool of abject personal incomp
Re:Lie-brarians (Score:4, Insightful)
If that's the reason to trust a random twitter over a professional - that some professionals lie - then those people are just fucking stupid. The fact that some random twits also lie should slam the scales down back on the side of the professional.
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Indeed. And here is the thing, you can look at what other experts say and you can look at what the actual arguments are. You can even look at who the experts are connected to and who pays them.
But that act of actually checking facts seems to be too complex for most people. Instead they listen to some random social media person because they "like" them. And that opens them up to all sorts of manipulation.
Do experts frequently lie? (Score:2)
Perhaps expert politicians.
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People also think the first result on the Google result page must be the truth.
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Oh, absolutely. These days, I spend so much time checking the output from computers, it would normally have been quicker to do searches by hand. This is... not useful.
Newspaper fact checking (Score:2)
What level of fact-checking requirement should be put on the newspaper and publishers in general for what should be factual data, a list of books, the birth date of presidents, etc. and other things which are not opinions?
Sympathy for librarians loss of relevance... (Score:2)
Like your presentation but not your Subject--even though I had a couple of negative encounters with rule-based librarians recently.
Unfortunately I think libraries are losing there relevance and it's related to the AI reference in your FP. However I just started thinking about a more insidious version of the problem. You can say that it's a big problem that generative AIs will fabricate BS, but even when we realize an answer is BS, we may learn the wrong lesson from it. After all, many of the AI answers are
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Like your presentation but not your Subject--even though I had a couple of negative encounters with rule-based librarians recently.
Tea, it wasn't meant as a shot at librarians but rather how AI is making people view them (and clickbait).
Unfortunately I think libraries are losing there relevance and it's related to the AI reference in your FP. However I just started thinking about a more insidious version of the problem. You can say that it's a big problem that generative AIs will fabricate BS, but even when we realize an answer is BS, we may learn the wrong lesson from it. After all, many of the AI answers are pretty good (on the theory you can make sufficient allowance for your own tendency to believe what you want to believe), so there's a kind of reinforcement in favor of those questions and prompts.
Good point. The reinforcing nature of AI do to prompt choices as well as design is an insidious feature that is no doubt viewed a a positive by companies since it keeps people coming back.
Most people like oracles and want to get "authoritative" answers to their questions.
Yet it's not so much that we may learn to think like machines (which is still a big problem), but rather that we may learn not to ask certain kinds of questions. We won't even be able to ask why those questions are so problematic because we already "know" the oracular AI can't handle them. (Even if the government or some greedy megalomaniac intervened to make sure the question was unanswerable.) Hallucinated books may the smallest of our future worries.
It think it's not just the authoritative nature but the belief that somehow AI is unbiased in the answers it provides. I have friends who truly believe, because AI has so much data the answers must be correct and unb
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Mostly the ACK and concurrence, though I noticed and regret my typo of "there" where I meant "their".
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It think it's not just the authoritative nature but the belief that somehow AI is unbiased in the answers it provides. I have friends who truly believe, because AI has so much data the answers must be correct and unbiased, and GIGO is no longer a problem even though they are fishing in a data sewer.
This prompted me, as an experiment, to ask ChatCPT "why did Putin invade Ukraine?" Response:
"Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022 was driven by a mix of strategic, political, and ideological motives. Analysts often highlight several overlapping factors:
"1. Stopping NATO and Western Alignment
"Security concerns (stated reason): The Kremlin claimed that Ukraine’s growing ties with NATO and the European Union threatened Russia’s security.
"Reality: NATO posed no immi
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ChatGPT does correctly capture the attitude of the US mainstream news media, so I'll give it credit for that.
Interesting insight. I suspect the results are due to the data used for trading. Unless it scrapes and is able to parse a large number of languages any output will be biased to its data and provide a viewpoint slanted to one geopolitical area. In addition, if one POV is overrepresented I think it would tend to favor that one, even if the amount of data is not well correlated with the % of a population who holds that view.
Ah, but are there cute cat videos?
"It logically follows if there are no cute cats there can be no cute cat videos" --
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Not just defensive (Score:5, Interesting)
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My wife works in a library. Some of these people become not just defensive, but outright hostile.
I suspect part of it is also being told something they asked for is incorrect and taking it a being told they are wrong and thus taking it personally, even when though that is not the librarian's intent.
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Re:Not just defensive (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: Not just defensive (Score:4, Funny)
Every public library has a stack of surplus books they want to be rid of, hence the annual book sales.
So what they should do is get the author name and book title from the patron, print a cover with those words and some generic picture, and glue that to the cover of one of the surplus books. Give them that.
Make everyone happy.
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So we have to treat a chunk of society like potentiality violent children, great.
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Re: Not just defensive (Score:3)
Re: Not just defensive (Score:2)
...its so simple!
Re: Not just defensive (Score:2)
Imaginarium! (Score:2)
Russia must love AI (Score:4, Insightful)
Russia's favourite weapon is misinformation. They have a saying that if you want to conquer a nation instead of sending tanks you just plant a disagreement and let the nation collapse on its own.
They must really love what's happening in the world right now. AI is doing all the dirty work for them. Persistent disinformation.
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It's too bad they didn't follow that playbook with Ukraine... their current strategy has cost way too many lives.
"become defensive"... (Score:3)
So we now have idiots of the 2nd order: They believe the AI hallucinations and defend them as if they were their own hallucinations. Nice.
Easy answer for the librarians. (Score:1)
Set up a computer that you type anything into and it names a fake library some distance away. Tell them it's ChatGPT, and it says to go there.
Then if they return, "defensive", tell them they must have not searched correctly, because the chatbot says it's real.
Re:Easy answer for the librarians. (Score:5, Funny)
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Or, just lower your voice, and whisper to the person asking: "I should not tell you this, but that book has been black-listed by the government, so we are not allowed to speak of it anymore."
Oh, yeah, THAT is going to make the overall situation in that locality so much better!
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books that don't exist (Score:1)
> Libraries nationwide are fielding patron requests for books that don't exist
Books that don't exist yet.
This isn’t a problem (Score:4, Informative)
Oh god, the world is screwed.
AI will make up programming classes and functions (Score:2, Interesting)
What comes next (Score:3)
Libraries nationwide are fielding patron requests for books that don't exist after AI-generated summer reading lists appeared in the Chicago Sun-Times and Philadelphia Inquirer earlier this year.
Step 1: Find out which fake titles received the most requests
Step 2: Have AI write books to go with the titles
Step 3: Profit?
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Babies are the most notorious suckers.
New category (Score:5, Funny)
Libraries will now have 3 categories instead of 2: Non-fiction, fiction, and fictional.
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Alternatively...
Fiction; Non-Fiction; Non-Existent.
Nothing new (Score:2)
Asimov's “The Endochronic Properties of Resublimated Thiotimoline” (1948).
In it, he invented a fictional chemical — thiotimoline — that dissolves before it touches water. He wrote it in the form of a serious scientific paper, with footnotes, jargon, and references, but the subject was pure nonsense.
Because the style was so convincing, some people at the time wondered if it was real. Asimov himself later joked that librarians and scientists would get requests for the “thiotimoli
Full Stop (Score:2)
We need to implement a full stop on any data that is less than about a year old. EVERYTHING after that is suspect. Flag it in red, so even the "casuals" can see that it's not verified. I know, how do you do that? No idea. But I'm sure people will want to throw AI at finding the AI fakes. And that will work really well
It could be Mandela effect or Multiversal... (Score:2)