FSF Reminds Consumers That Truly Free OS's Exist (fsf.org) 101
"Microsoft does everything in its power to keep Windows users under its control," warns the Free Software Foundation in a new blog post this week.
They argue that the lack of freedom that comes with proprietary code "forces users to surrender to decisions made by Microsoft to maximize its profits and further lock users into its product ecosystem" — describing both the problem and one possible solution: [IT management company Lansweeper] found that of the 30 million enterprise systems they manage, over 40% are incompatible with Windows 11. This is due to the hardware requirements like Treacherous Platform Module version 2.0 — a proprietary chip that uses cryptography that users can't influence or audit to restrict their control over the system.
The end of Windows 10 support is the perfect opportunity to break free from this cycle and switch to GNU/Linux operating system (GNU/Linux OS), a system that respects your freedom...
The endless, freedom-restricting cycle of planned obsolescence is not inevitable. Instead of paying Microsoft for continued updates or buying new hardware, Windows users left behind by Microsoft should install GNU/Linux. Free Software Foundation certified GNU/Linux distributions respect the user's freedom to run their computer as they wish, to study and modify its source code, and to redistribute copies. They don't require update contracts, often run faster on older hardware, and, most importantly, put you in control.
"If you're already a GNU/Linux user, you have an important role to play. Help your friends and family make the switch by sharing your knowledge, help them install a free-as-in-freedom OS. Show them what it means to have real control over their computing!"
They argue that the lack of freedom that comes with proprietary code "forces users to surrender to decisions made by Microsoft to maximize its profits and further lock users into its product ecosystem" — describing both the problem and one possible solution: [IT management company Lansweeper] found that of the 30 million enterprise systems they manage, over 40% are incompatible with Windows 11. This is due to the hardware requirements like Treacherous Platform Module version 2.0 — a proprietary chip that uses cryptography that users can't influence or audit to restrict their control over the system.
The end of Windows 10 support is the perfect opportunity to break free from this cycle and switch to GNU/Linux operating system (GNU/Linux OS), a system that respects your freedom...
The endless, freedom-restricting cycle of planned obsolescence is not inevitable. Instead of paying Microsoft for continued updates or buying new hardware, Windows users left behind by Microsoft should install GNU/Linux. Free Software Foundation certified GNU/Linux distributions respect the user's freedom to run their computer as they wish, to study and modify its source code, and to redistribute copies. They don't require update contracts, often run faster on older hardware, and, most importantly, put you in control.
"If you're already a GNU/Linux user, you have an important role to play. Help your friends and family make the switch by sharing your knowledge, help them install a free-as-in-freedom OS. Show them what it means to have real control over their computing!"
Definitely worth to look further into this. (Score:2)
I'm right now trying out Zorin OS, this could be an alternative for some since it has a look similar to Windows.
But is there a version of Teams for Linux?
Re:Definitely worth to look further into this. (Score:5, Informative)
Linux is mainly for coders and hobbyist system builders; most people doing actual work can't be arsed
Linux is the most common operating system around (Android). BSD is right after (iOS). Windows is a distant third.
As for GNU/Linux (not Android), most people who use it, use it for real work. It's a programmer's OS.
Re:Definitely worth to look further into this. (Score:4, Insightful)
For both of those it required a benevolent(?) corporate overlord to get those systems real market penetration and even then both of those would be considered bastardizations by the community at large today, both a far cry from their open source origins. An OS is far more than it's kernel.
Re:Android is just the kernel though isn't it? (Score:4, Insightful)
There is nothing more pathetic than someone who has dedicated a significant part of their lives following someone else on the internet to just give them shit every chance they get.
I don't like rsilvergun, I disagree with a lot of what he has to say, I've gotten into arguments with him on posts in the past, but your responses are just absolutely the most pathetic thing I've witnessed here.
It's hilarious you act like he needs to get a life when you obviously have nothing to do but follow him around and reply to every one of his posts for months now. At least he varies the content of his posts, you've said nothing original ever. And you don't even have the balls to post under your account, but hide behind the Anonymous Coward.
I hope your find something else to live for in your sad life. This weak, petty attempt at revenge is making you look bad, not him. No one gives a shit what you say, it's clear you're the one with a mental problem.
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Android a complete operating system Linux a kernel (Score:2)
Linux is the most common operating system around (Android).
No really. "Linux" is an overloaded word. Sometimes referring to a kernel, sometimes to an operating system. On Android, Android is the operating system, Linux is the kernel hosting the Android operating system. 70% of Android apps never touch anything other than Android APIs. For the 30% using the Native SDK that exposes Linux, nearly all those are calling POSIX, not any Linux API. You could replace Linux with a different POSIX kernel and nearly all Android apps would not know or care, even many using the
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As for GNU/Linux (not Android), most people who use it, use it for real work. It's a programmer's OS.
Don't be so sure. Most people use it because it's in their fibre gateway, router, smart fridge, the wired SIP phone at work that has a single line display, whatever, it's everywhere.
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iOS is not BSD.
iOS is the Mach microkernel with FreeBSD APIs and mostly FreeBSD userspace binaries.
iOS is a Unix-like operating system, based on macOS.
macOS is an honest-to-goodness Unix.
https://www.opengroup.org/open... [opengroup.org]
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Are you sure it's wise to act like a pedantic jerk when you're talking about different OSes that are only "based" on each other?
That's especially true for Android, because we all know the commercial versions distributed on phones are not the same as the open core reference maintained by Google. I mean, unless you want to make the argument that Chrome is open source because Chromium is, too.
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Android just goes to show why GNU/Linux will never become mainstream. It fixes the main issues - stable and sane APIs, security that users can actually understand and take advantage of, software distribution and availability.
The fact that it's Linux underneath is hardly even relevant, given that the actual Android APIs have been ported to other operating systems such as Windows.
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Microsoft has been maintaining a linux distro for the past 5 years, CBL-Mariner recently renamed Azure Linux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Vectorworks also supports MacOS [vectorworks.net] so much so that most of the tutorial videos online about it are using Apple to run it.
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Re:Definitely worth to look further into this. (Score:4, Informative)
Here is a video by Rob Braxman that dispels many of the myths about how difficult it is to work with Linux. In the video he does point out some of the more difficult aspects as well. All in all a great video for those looking to take a dip in the Linux pool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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My impression is that these days, it is significantly more difficult to work with Windows, due to obscure errors, non-deterministic behavior, instability and generally crappy and non-helpful diagnostic.
Case in point: I just tried to activate bitlocker on my Win11 teaching laptop (downgraded from Win10, already multiple new problems while it was reasonably solid on Win10) a few days back. Now, MS seems to know this is badly working crap, because they give you an option to test it (with a frigging reboot, but
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From where I'm sitting it looks like you're saying that Win11 is susceptible to mandelbugs [foldoc.org].
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It looks to me that way. I mean I have dived into Linux kernel sources to fix things and I have done custom init-scripts to fix some things (and none of that Windows-inspires "systemd" crap).
On Windows, it is just fumbling in the dark. I have no idea how people that post obscure fixes on the web even got to them and suspect these are leaks from people that actually get support from Microsoft or from people that have Windows source code (they exist, I know some).
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Nice! Mandelbug was a new word for me. Heisenbug was known already.
There's a saying that every other version of Windows is a bad one, XP was good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good so 11 is the bad one.
I hope that someone discovers that those Microsoft Accounts with Entra is an extremely dangerous solution because every computer is in the hands of Microsoft. So if this environment collapses you'll see a lot of companies and private computers becoming unusable and people left running on older Windows like Wi
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Tell me that you are clueless without telling me you are clueless...
The number of Linux distros is both a sign of strength and a advantage in itself. If you do not see that, then you clearly are a Stockholm-Syndrome sufferer. Alternatives to move away to is what keeps tech providers honest. Case in point: Microsoft. It does not get more abusive and dishonest than these people. But some cretins (you among them) apparently like getting abused.
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The number of Linux distros is both a sign of strength and a advantage in itself. If you do not see that, then you clearly are a Stockholm-Syndrome sufferer.
To a point, yes. However, after a fairly low number, the number of distros becomes a weakness. I say this as someone who has used Linux since the 1990's and the kernel version was 1 ... so I've watched what's happened over the years. It's easy to convince me we need somewhere between 3 to 5 distros*; after that the fragmentation starts. I also don't think we should have over 2 mainstream desktop environments**, and Gnome should be one of the ones to die, as it never should have been started just because a
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That is really nonsense. Even calling this "fragmentation" is just an attempt at manipulating the discussion and not true. Sure, an enterprise may want to standardize, but that is really it.
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My impression is that these days, it is significantly more difficult to work with Windows, due to obscure errors, non-deterministic behavior, instability and generally crappy and non-helpful diagnostic.
You are mistaken. Windows, and Linux problems, are generally due to 3rd party drivers.
I have been building dual boot PCs since the mid 90s. I carefully select my components. I have had rock solid Windows (well the NT line not 9x line) and Linux as a result. Both equally stable and reliable.
The only PC I've had in the last 30 years with trouble was a Dell Laptop that school chose for me. I dual booted as usual, Linux wifi was unreliable. 3rdparty driver problem.
Regarding your TPM problem. Sounds lik
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No, I am not mistaken. And no, I am not "tinkering" with the system either. I switched Bitlocker off and on again. That is in no way "tinkering". That is _basic_ functionality, and Microsoft messed it up due to sheer incompetence. But I sense you are arguing in bad faith here, as so many MS apologists do.
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No, I am not mistaken. And no, I am not "tinkering" with the system either. I switched Bitlocker off and on again.
Sounds like tinkering. Whole disk encryption generally a set and forget thing. Plus there is the unexplained TPM ran out of keys thing.
That is in no way "tinkering".
That's an opinion.
That is _basic_ functionality, and Microsoft messed it up due to sheer incompetence. But I sense you are arguing in bad faith here, as so many MS apologists do.
That seems like projection. And did you miss the part about dual booting Linux since mid 90s? Or coming out of a BSD based CS program. Ad Hominem fallacy, that's really your response?
I am OS agnostic. Windows, macOS, Linux. Different tools for different jobs. Customers decide what I target for a particular job, not my personal preferences.
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That is insane. Listen to yourself for a moment.
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That is insane. Listen to yourself for a moment.
What is insane, a decades long Linux user saying Windows can be just as stable as Linux? That 3rd party drivers, and tinkering are usually at fault?
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It is a shame that distros appear to NOT offer setup disks with modern kernels so that your hardware can be recognized enough to go out and download a proper kernel. You have no idea how frustrating it is to download dozens of bootable images only to find that your network devices are unrecognized, regardless of distribution.
Sure, we get it it. maintaining an up to date kernel in your mainline distribution is not an easy job since everything depends on the kernel.
But, for everyone that was told they should
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I'm as typical of a desktop user as you are likely to find.
Word Processing, Spreadsheets, Web Browsing, and the occasional touching up and printing of a photo of my kid that was taken on my iPhone.
I've been a Debian user since 2002. I have a single Windows Machine in the house, and that's the one work provides that sits headless in the closet and gets accessed via remote desktop.
Those that say it can't be done simply haven't been able to do it, for whatever excuse they use at that moment in time.
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Those that say it can't be done simply haven't been able to do it, for whatever excuse they use at that moment in time.
I've been using Linux since the 90s and am a big fan, but I have to say updates seem to break things much more often than Windows. Just a couple weeks ago an update to an Rpi I use as a media streamer broke sound. I was able to fix it with some config editing. Again actually, since updates broke sound last year as well. Back in the summer updates also broke xrdp. I could not fix that one and had to wait for the next round of updates to fix it. And then there was that grub shim thing on CENTOS a few ye
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Yeah, I feel that pain. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 24.04 and sound was changed to Pipewire and broke ... I moved it back to Pulseaudio and it worked again. I've had trouble making the Nvidia proprietary drivers work with 24, unlike how they worked with 22.04 just fine. (When I get time soon I'll try again.) There are other things that work and then break on an upgrade; it's really annoying.
However, I do get more control over Linux if I want it, so the upside is very large (for me). When the wife's Win7 machi
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Teams-for-linux https://github.com/IsmaelMarti... [github.com]
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Good to know. And there are alternatives also. [tecmint.com]
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I'm right now trying out Zorin OS, this could be an alternative for some since it has a look similar to Windows.
But is there a version of Teams for Linux?
I have a couple of people I *can* "upgrade" to W11 from W10, but I think they're ideal candidates to move to Zorin or Mint.
MS used to supply a desktop client of Teams for LInux, but hasn't for a year or more at this point. However, the web interface works well enough. And if you don't mind snaps on your system, you can try wrapping the web interface in a sort of desktop app: https://snapcraft.io/teams-for... [snapcraft.io]
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I have had problems with the sound in the web-version for Linux. Any recommended browser you made good experiences with for sound? Slide-sharing and video works well enough.
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I used Firefox (not sure of what the version was) to successfully hold Teams meetings on the web on Mint (likely ~20 or 21), and Vivaldi on a different Mint system. I'm sorry I can't remember more. It was 6 months ago or so.
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Out of curiosity, I opened the web version (https://teams.microsoft.com/v2/, in Firefox 144.0, on Mint 22.2, using Cinnamon 6.4.8 on a Beelink mini-desktop). To make the usual "test call", I can't go to three-dots (...)--> Settings --> Calls --> Devices (there is no "Devices" under THAT version of "Calls"). However, I CAN go to the "Calls" menu on the far left of the window --> Custom Setup (gear menu) --> Device Settings, and then do a Test Call.
From there, all works fine, including sound an
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Ok, thanks. I think I will make another attempt. Win11 is really pissing me off with its retardedness, bad design and bad engineering.
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I run Teams, Outlook, all the office stuff I need via Chrome on Linux with no issue and have been for years.
Re: Definitely worth to look further into this. (Score:2)
https://teamsforlinux.de/ [teamsforlinux.de]
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There used to be a standalone Teams app for Linux (with an apt repo), but Microsoft discontinued it. There is a Chrome PWA app you can install, that's how I use it and it works great.
Re:Halloween (Score:5, Informative)
Can't believe its been so many years since the Halloween Documents [wikipedia.org] were written, and I'm sure this AC comment was a troll from someone who wasn't even born back then, and not a reference to this infamous time period, but the Halloween Documents are the reason so many of us still distrust Microsoft. Its not really the telemetry, which every app has now, or the proprietary nature, which is every non-free OS at this point. Remember - Microsoft is the reason the term FUD exists. They were masters of marketing and propaganda in the 90s and early 00s and actively sought to destroy Free software, Linux specifically. They've supposedly made peace with Linux but I don't trust them and just can't due to the nature of their business. Sorry MS.
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Win 11 will go down with ME, Vista, and 8
At this point the pattern feels almost intentional as each of those was replaced with a dominant version. Are we a year away from the "Windows 12" announcement and everyone will move to that?
But, Your Highness, she's a commoner. Her Slurm will taste foul.
Yes! Which is why we'll market it as New Slurm. Then, when everyone hates it, we'll bring back Slurm Classic, and make billions!
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Microsoft's telemetry is different from some app's telemetry, since it can be spying on everything you do on your computer and the app's reach is comparatively limited. It's also different from most in that you cannot actually turn it off. Even when you think you have turned it off, the system is still phoning home more than can be adequately explained by update checks and the like. You have to take extraordinary measures to disable it, and then Microsoft will just turn it on again when you update. So yes,
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They've supposedly made peace with Linux but I don't trust them
I trust them, but for some specific reason you touched on. To quote you:
They *WERE* masters of marketing
I trust Microsoft is far too incompetent these days to generate significant FUD, far too incompetent to do any meaningful marketing, and they sure has heck don't have the chops to execute Embrace Extend Extinguish anymore.
Microsoft will chase a dollar, they'll do it from their back foot having given up any innovation decades ago. They'll repeatedly try and bundle things and then get slapped in the face by the EU and forced to unbundle a
Linux on the desktop will happen when (Score:2)
...WINE actually works. Then people can run their legacy software, since most fields have specialized software, and most of it was designed for Windows or DOS because they standardized the hardware model we use now.
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WINE Is Not an Emulator... VMs are... and, in that case, you have to install Windows in the VM... so, what did all that back-and-forth get you? Right back to Windows.
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I'm trying to get an old copy of TOPSPICE into an Ubuntu-24.04 system,
I would think Dosbox is the correct solution, not WINE.
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It depends on who's you are talking about, not all users have the same requirements.
Most home users just want to do a little word processing and use the web - the web is how they access email - Linux has been able to support that perfectly for over a decade; the users will never need to use the command line. Other things like music playing and picture editing work well as well. Yes the user will need to do a bit of learning but that is quickly done.
Corporate office environments often have specific requireme
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[Linux on the desktop will happen when]...WINE actually works.
Well ... WINE does work. Just not perfectly for every app you could name. (Does Windows work perfectly?)
I'm very impressed that WINE works as well as it does. Give the development team some credit for getting as far as they have on such an exceedingly difficult engineering problem.
WINE works well enough for several companies that make derivative products to adopt it as a base, including commercial ones. [wikipedia.org]
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Wine and derivatives run a lot of software very well, but indeed run a minority of it very poorly or not at all. Microsoft and Adobe software are the primary candidates for not running even slightly, and if they do, they definitely do not work right. If you need that software, there is no particular sign that Wine will run it well any time soon, though it will run some of it sort of okay. I've tried quite a bit of it. If you need that software, then you will need Windows, at least in a VM.
Specialized softwa
Preaching to the choir (Score:3, Insightful)
The average consumer doesn't care about this stuff.
They'll happily do whatever they're prompted to do, because it makes life simple.
Using vi to edit Makefiles so that they can compile and install a new driver for their favourite USB wifi dongle...not gonna happen.
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FSF Reminds Consumers That Truly Free OS's Exis
"If you're already a GNU/Linux user, you have an important role to play. Help your friends and family make the switch by sharing your knowledge, help them install a free-as-in-freedom OS. Show them what it means to have real control over their computing!"
Not the worst online dating profile quote, but kinda lacks "rizz"? Just sayin'.
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I help non-tech friends with IT support. Several have switched to GNU/Linux distros, and I haven't in a single case had a problem that required manual driver compilation, even less using vi.
They mostly use the system without any issue for regular web-based activities + office. I have helped showing Inkscape. In one case I had to help install a Firefox plugin to make Zoom links use the web version, and helped with the sound GUI to use correct input devices. But the latter seems to be a rather common problem
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Those are problems of yesteryear. Yes: you can still find examples but by and large plug and play just works.
Re: Preaching to the choir (Score:2)
The last time I tried Linux was back when you had to do make config etc to get a USB 802.11 adaptor to (sort of) work. The CLI doesn't faze me but like many 'normal' people I don't actually do much on my home computer. I had to do a full reinstall of Windows a few weeks ago because of a hard drive failure but since I know enough to have my home folder on a separate drive it was just an inconvenience.
I could switch to linux tomorrow and lose nothing but some old games. Maybe WINE or whatever people use now w
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The average consumer doesn't care about this stuff. They'll happily do whatever they're prompted to do, because it makes life simple. Using vi to edit Makefiles so that they can compile and install a new driver for their favourite USB wifi dongle...not gonna happen.
Marie Antoinette says: Tell them to use EMACS.:
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The average consumer doesn't care about this stuff.
They'll happily do whatever they're prompted to do, because it makes life simple.
Using vi to edit Makefiles so that they can compile and install a new driver for their favourite USB wifi dongle...not gonna happen.
Do NOT tell your grandmother to use Xemacs intead, unless she's the one who taught you how to use it.
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compile and install a new driver for their favourite USB wifi dongle...not gonna happen.
That was last century. Right now all new chipsets (in particular for communication) go in the linux FIRST (before Windows); often before the dongle product is even released. Chip manufacturers do that so phone makers can use them in their next designs.
Last time I compiled drivers... January 2005, I emailed HighPoint Technology as my Asus motherboard had a HPT371 RAID controller, and they kindly replied with the code for the 2.6 kernel. But then I did not need it, linux software RAID (portable to any distro)
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The average consumer doesn't care about this stuff. They'll happily do whatever they're prompted to do, because it makes life simple. Using vi to edit Makefiles so that they can compile and install a new driver for their favourite USB wifi dongle...not gonna happen.
There's quite a few Linux distros where that isn't necessary. It's not the 1990's anymore. I haven't had to resort to hand-hacking and compiling to get stuff to work in years.
In fact, Linux now supports hardware that Windows doesn't. I have an old USB-connected flatbed scanner. Windows dropped driver support for it a couple of years ago. But current Linux releases recognise and use it, out of the box, with no problems.
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Using vi to edit Makefiles so that they can compile and install a new driver for their favourite USB wifi dongle...not gonna happen.
I hope not. I sincerely hope power users and Linux fans aren't doing this either. We have distributions for a reason along with package management systems. Makefiles, compiling, and installing software outside of the distribution's packaging system is a recipe for breaking a system.
You read it here all the time, people whinging that every time they do a distribution upgrade from their favourite distribution something breaks, well the above reason is why. 100% of all broken Linux systems, and all broken upgr
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The problem is that people inevitably run into some problem with their distro, and their choice is either try another distro and hope it is broken in a different way, or run some command line copy/paste stuff and hope that doesn't bugger things up.
There's a new video like this every week: https://youtu.be/T2bZ2L4e_dw [youtu.be]
Guy had an older Thinkpad, one of the best machines for Linux because it has compatible hardware and great community support. Still immediately ran into issues.
The great exodus of people from Wi
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I often go in my mind back to the late 2000s and think about what could have happened if GNOME 3 had continued the extremely successful GNOME 2 path, and Ubuntu had focused on their "Easy to install GNOME-based GNU/Linux" thing.
Because Ubuntu back then really did have momentum. The jokes about soundcards were silly by then, it installed and ran on more stuff than Windows. It had a UI that was far better than Windows and only a little less polished than Mac OS X. Pretty much anyone Linuxy you asked would ans
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GNOME is an abomination, but it's not just that. If you check the video I posted in another comment, the guy talks about how he settled on a Pop OS derivative, which is itself a derivative of Ubuntu, which is derived from Debian, because it actually just worked for the basic writing and note taking he wanted to do. The others failed not because GNOME is awful, but because the two bits of software he wanted were broken out of the box.
The way Linux is, package maintenance is a massive overhead that frequently
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> I tend to agree, the way Android and Windows do it are both superior.
OK, let's examine this and tell me why you think they're superior.
Android: You have to install via the Play Store. You kinda have an option of installing directly, but Google is doing everything they can to make that hard and they're even implementing infrastructure that bans you from installing software where the devs haven't conformed to Google's T&C's. The Play Store is vetted primarily for software that might bypass Google's p
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I mostly use F-Droid on Android, not Google Play. It just works, apps have permissions that are easy to control, and other than sometimes saying an app is too old for my version of Android, it all just works.
On Windows I mostly use winget for apps, again few issues with compatibility.
On Linux I often find that software from repos is broken and flatpaks don't work. A lot of stuff comes as a Docker container now, but those can be hit and miss as well. The Docker Compose configuration file format seems to be d
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> I mostly use F-Droid on Android, not Google Play. It just works, apps have permissions that are easy to control, and other than sometimes saying an app is too old for my version of Android, it all just works.
So you're actually using an even more complex set up than "The way Android does it". But it still doesn't appear to have any obvious advantages. Apt "just works", it was the original "Just works". So is Flatpak and Snap.
> On Windows I mostly use winget for apps, again few issues with compatibili
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In my experience apt doesn't just work. To give you a recent example I upgraded LinuxPTP on RPi OS, and the apt version was broken. Ended up downloading source and compiling it myself.
That's the key difference, it really does actually work. The Windows one also has a lot of non-free software, and while I prefer Free software, I need some proprietary stuff, and so do many users.
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Using vi to edit Makefiles so that they can compile and install a new driver for their favourite USB wifi dongle...not gonna happen.
This argument is woefully out of date. I haven't had hardware issues with Linux in a long, long time.
You know what's really wrong with Linux? The culture. This is my general experience:
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Installing a newer kernel because the installer kernel is several years old and doesn't recognize their hardware is a greater issue. How do you even download a newer kernel if your networking devices are not recognized?
Been using Linux for years (Score:2)
I started using various distros of Linux about 25 years ago and have experienced first hand their improvement from basically functional to extremely capable.
My latest "new" computer is a used ThinkPad to replace an aging MacBook Pro (don't ask how old). The MacBook Pro ran Linux but was so old and slow that it was frustrating to use.
I installed Ubuntu on it and it has been working flawlessly and runs everything I need with agility.
It's hard to take someone seriously when... (Score:3)
It's hard to take someone seriously when they can't even use the proper terms for things they are talking about.
Sure, you may not like what a TPM is and what it does, but to call it a "Treacherous Platform Module" instead of a "Trusted Platform Model" shows me that you need to resort to name calling just to try and get your point across. Similarly for people who refer to "Micro$oft" or "Winblows", look, I get your point, but you're talking about technical things where correctness matters. At least use the proper name for something and then tell me in a clear and concise fashion exactly why it's no good.
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I get your point, but you're talking about technical things where correctness matters. At least use the proper name for something and then tell me in a clear and concise fashion exactly why it's no good.
If you're not confused about what company they're talking about, then what's the problem? A lot of nerds were talking like that back when these products were new. Before it was most commonly written into Micro$oft, people were putting a dollar sign into Compu$erve, to the point where I'd see it written that way more often than not, e.g. on Fidonet threads. Then I got into UUCP (first with UUPC, then Waffle, then SCO UUCP, then AmigaUUCP...) and I would see it written that way on USENET. It's tradition.
Ther
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If you're not confused about what company they're talking about, then what's the problem?
I remember the days when people were talking about Compu$erve.
The problem is that I want a full and intelligent discussion that can stand on its own merits without resorting to name-calling. If you have a valid argument (and there are plenty of valid arguments against TPM) then It's just not necessary to get the point across.
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By all means, ridicule it, and tear it apart on a technical level, but resorting to name calling is childish and makes your organization seem petty and immature. The FSF struggles enough to make it's po
There is no "GNU/Linux" (Score:2)
The name "GNU/Linux" is a shameless attempt by FSF to take credit for other people's work. In any modern Linux-based OS, almost all the major components come from sources other than GNU. That includes the kernel, the desktop environment, the graphics stack it's built on, the drivers to support your hardware, the package manager, the bundled applications (web browser, file browser, terminal emulator, etc.), and much more. None of these come from GNU. They think their relatively small contribution means t
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We're going to count how many packages are in Debian GNU/Linux to prove that it's not GNU/Linux?
Gaming works just fine, make the switch already (Score:2)
Gaming used to be one of the last big things holding a lot of users back, including getting easy and proper 3D acceleration.
All of this works just fine now and is very user friendly to setup, mostly fully automatic. Even for NVIDIA; but you could choose an AMD card if you do not want to taint the kernel, if this even matters to you personally.
Just pick one of the big distros, they are all definitely good and stable enough by now.
Linux has seriously become a more than good-enough option over the last couple
I think MacOS killed linux on the desktop (Score:2)
Very few people care about having the source code to their operating systems. MacOS is linux-y enough to give me the command line environment wile at the same time giving me supported applications. Linux on the server, MacOS on the laptop and Windows if you want to do gaming.
Wow! (Score:2)
Wow!
The FSF finally discovered FreebSD?
will they be switching over for their internal use?