YouTube Will Help You Quit Watching Shorts (theverge.com) 63
YouTube has added a new Shorts feature that makes it easier to manage how much time you're spending watching videos. From a report: Mobile users can now set a customizable daily limit that restricts how long they can scroll Shorts feeds, aiming to help viewers better manage their time instead of endlessly scrolling. When a user reaches their time limit, they will receive a notification saying Shorts has been paused for the day.
This notification is dismissible, however, so it's on the user to honor these self-imposed restrictions.
This notification is dismissible, however, so it's on the user to honor these self-imposed restrictions.
Easiest way to help? (Score:5, Insightful)
Never re-enable them after I specifically turn them off in my feed. Pretty simple, eh?
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You can. With a browser plugin called "Short Stop".
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I also found a file to import into uBlock that completely got rid of them too. I believe I got it from one Chris Titus' videos about a year ago.
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You needed a plugin? I just clicked the little 'X' in the upper right to close that feature.
I log in to YouTube though. Maybe you don't?
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Well I can't say I've payed too close attention but I feel I'd notice a once a month annoyance like that. I do feel I had to close it a second time at one point but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
It's also possible users are getting different results based on plug ins or which browser they use. I know the Brave browser takes care of most of my issues with YouTube pretty well on its own.
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Just as with their AI deepfake detection system, YouTube has once again created a problem (Shorts addiction) so that it can deliver a solution (this auto-turn-off function).
I'd actually prefer that it didn't create the problems in the first place.
YouTube is a trainwreck right now and mid-tier creators are not valued at all. Just look at what they have to put up with [youtube.com]
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Some of us recognize that the idiots occasionally need to be herded and coaxed into doing the right thing, not for their sake, but for ours having to inhabit the same world as them. This same impetus is behind, for example, the designation and punishment of crime. "Lack of self control" is neither a license, nor an excuse.
Anyway, the dope man has you so squarely by the balls that you're lashing out at the mere suggestion you, or anyone, might need some help.
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Just as with their AI deepfake detection system, YouTube has once again created a problem (Shorts addiction) so that it can deliver a solution (this auto-turn-off function).
I'd actually prefer that it didn't create the problems in the first place.
They didn't create the problem of "complete lack of self control", that's existed for many thousands of years.
Then there is the Other problem. People like you trying to force the rest of the world who does have self control, to live without something for no other reason than your own lack of self control.
We're tired of having to deal with your bullshit. You figure out your own problems. Put some effort into not watching videos you don't want to watch. Or if it really is an addiction for you, go get some help for working through that. If you still can't figure it out, well I don't know what to tell you, other than the rest of us aren't going to live without nice things because of it.
Accusing others of mental deficiency while referring to youtube shorts as "nice things?" That's some interesting dissonance there. Or is it performative art? Is that why you went anonymous? For the sake of the "art?"
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I want a way to TURN THEM OFF completely.....
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Eh, it's the "I don't want to see this" thing which makes the bar go away, but eventually they turn it back on requiring you to once again tell them you don't want to see it. IMO it should simply stay gone unless/until I go manually enable it.
Who needs help? (Score:2)
They're all in fucking portrait mode so borderline unwatchable on a pc.
Are Gen Z ever going to figure out that yes, you can actually turn a phone through 90 degrees?
Re: Who needs help? (Score:3, Insightful)
There's a strong demand for short-form use content on mobile. Portrait orientation works better for that situation. Stop blaming users for having preferences that are entirely rational.
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Yeah,. that'll be why streaming movies on phones is in portrait mode... oh, wait...
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Are Gen Z ever going to figure out that yes, you can actually turn a phone through 90 degrees?
Phones are a pain in the arse to turn 90 degrees. There's nothing wrong with vertical video shorts. You're just watching them on the wrong device, all the while complaining that you actually have more screen real estate than the device these videos are targeted at.
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"Phones are a pain in the arse to turn 90 degrees"
Even for you thats a really poor troll. Had a bad day? Have another go.
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Not at all. You may have a different opinion, but in general the form factor of a phone is designed to be palmed vertically. Turning it horizontally involves gripping it uncomfortably with fingers in a position that makes swiping more difficult. Add to that the number of people who have rotation lock enabled.
You're so quick to label anything you disagree with as a troll, maybe try engaging your brain just once to see what that feels like. There's a reason people started videoing and watching things vertical
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Portrait is the correct orientation for what is essentially a moving portrait. The problem is what it's a portrait of. The vertical bars don't hide anything worth seeing. And there's nothing worth seeing between the bars, either.
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Except most of them are not moving portraits and because of the way our world is built horizontally far more than vertically you can get more information in a landscape format. Film makers knew this 100 years ago. The ONLY reason for portrait is shitty phones with users too dumb to turn them on their sides when filming.
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They're fine to watch on my 55" monitor. They're even more spendid on a 75" monitor bu tthat one uses the youtube tv app and it is not very well designed.
The best part about youtube shorts, tiktok videos, instagram reels, etc. is that they autoplay and repeat forever. I can tell if my partner is asleep because I'll hear the same short repeat over and over. This is my queue to take it out of her hand, shut it off, plug it in, and put it on the nightstand so she can find it in the a.m.
Unnecessary (Score:2)
Personally if I'm bored enough to open Shorts, my viewing time is self-limiting because the content is so bad.
Why the auto-repeat? (Score:5, Insightful)
give me a way to turn that feature off permanently
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Yes. I do not understand - at ALL - why the fuck Youtube thinks anybody would want to loop any of this. What was the target audience? Who said, "Yes please, I want to hear short form content on repeat."
Maybe I'm not the targeted demographic - and that's good, because that targeted group is just plain stupid.
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Yes. I do not understand - at ALL - why the ... Youtube thinks anybody would want to loop any of this. What was the target audience? Who said, "Yes please, I want to hear short form content on repeat."
I know people who play Meta videos that do the same. Personally I not a big fan of music for the same reason. A three and half minute or slightly less song and you keep hearing the same chorus.
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Seriously. So annoying!
Zero (Score:5, Insightful)
Can the limit be made zero?
Re:Zero (use SmartTube) (Score:2)
Block all YouTube shorts. (Score:5, Informative)
www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint[title="Shorts"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint[title="Shorts"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse #dismissible ytd-rich-grid-slim-media[is-short]:upward(ytd-rich-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse ytd-grid-video-renderer:has(span.ytd-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[aria-label="Shorts"])
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse ytd-rich-item-renderer:has(span.ytd-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[aria-label="Shorts"])
www.youtube.com##ytd-search ytd-video-renderer:has(span.ytd-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[aria-label="Shorts"])
www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer ytd-compact-video-renderer:has(span.ytd-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[aria-label="Shorts"])
www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer ytd-shelf-renderer:has(span.ytd-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[aria-label="Shorts"])
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer span.ytd-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[aria-label="Shorts"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer
www.youtube.com###content >
www.youtube.com##grid-shelf-view-model.ytGridShelfViewModelHostHasBottomButton.ytd-item-section-renderer.ytGridShelfViewModelHost:nth-of-type(n+1)
www.youtube.com###contents > grid-shelf-view-model.ytGridShelfViewModelHostHasBottomButton.ytd-item-section-renderer.ytGridShelfViewModelHost:nth-of-type(n+1)
www.youtube.com##.ytd-item-section-renderer.ytGridShelfViewModelHost
m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer
m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-video-with-context-renderer:has(ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"])
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-compact-video-renderer:has(ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"])
m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-compact-video-renderer:has(ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"])
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Yes, this is the file list I referred to in a reply above. I've been using it for well over a year. No shorts ever show up. Bliss.
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thank you
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Thank you for this
Insistence (Score:3)
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That's right... you don't *really* think YT is giving you a choice do you?
I do not make shorts, I do not want shorts but without using plugins I can not avoid shorts. Successful companies are generally built on tailoring their offerings to match the needs/wants of their customers so YT once again proves that WE are not the customers, we are the product!
Intermission vs. Interruption (Score:2)
They will show long adds to interrupt the short shorts soon, hope that this measure does not fall short.
Adds save the day for a better tomorrow .. is the next shareholder day.
Control Panel for YouTube Plugin... (Score:2)
So the chicks will be (Score:2)
...naked now?
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If I do that, then I won't see (Score:3)
Did somebody sue them? (Score:2)
Because I can really not see them doing anything like that because they though it was right.
Just don't watch them (Score:1)
I already don't watch them. Don't need any help.
Hint: filters are wonderful.
Wait! What? (Score:2)
Quit Watching Shorts
No more Daisy Dukes?
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Daisy Dukes only looked good on Catherine Bach.
I won't watch Reels. I won't watch Shorts. (Score:2)
I spend at least an hour a day on TikTok. I don't need every social media platform to try to duplicate that experience with varying levels of success.
How about quit showing me mixes? (Score:2)
YT will help itself customize # of ads to the user (Score:5, Interesting)
This is a powerful data-tracking move for YT that will make them even more profitable.
Businesses would always rather have a consistent revenue stream that can be planned for and then gamed, rather than being at the mercy of consumer choices on any given day.
They now can know how much time John intends to spend consuming the feed. You are literally telling them in advance how large a window in the day they have to monetize your eyeballs. So instead of potentially missing the chance to serve x number of ads to John before John suddenly unpredictably exits the app, YT can now calculate ProfitTargetPerUser = JohnsDayLimit / SUM(ProfitEarnedFromAd[n]). All they need to do is have the algorithm check the value of John's limit and then adjust the value of n (ie the length of the interval they graciously allow you to see content between advertisements) to maximize profits.
This also improves the precision of their inducement PsyOps data analytics, because they can start deliberately testing John's weaknesses by observing what kinds of content they can stack toward the end of John's interval that is most likely to make John continue being monetized after clearing the popup notice. Knowing exactly how to induce people to break their own explicitly-stated rules/morals/willpower and continue behaviors a PsyOp wants them to perform, is an extremely profitable/powerful set of data.
Oh, and if no one else has realized this yet -- they've successfully moved everyone to streaming TV platforms, and everyone is so dopamine addicted that instead of TV itself being "the opiate of the masses", TV is a thing that people put on in the background while they dopascroll. Since you're streaming via an app or browser (which is tracking/harvesting you), that means they can now aggregate your side-scrolling monetized behavior with your TV-streaming monetized behavior to see exactly which shows you pay the most/least attention to, and eventually they will get around to what is the minimum level of writing/acting/talent/production investment necessary to keep you scrolling the rapidly disappearing seconds of your life away. It's also a great business opportunity to double-dip by gradually re-introducing and increasing the ads on paid streaming services while also showing you ads in your dopascroll, and even syncing those up so you're getting hit with ads on your scroll while getting ads on your stream. If they can just blanket you with enough ads then they can finally Immanentize the Eschaton/Singularity and ascend to the oligopantheon's geosat ringworld or whatever.
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Can i make it zero? (Score:2)
Legalized poison (Score:2)
We'll tell doom-scrolling junkies to stop being junkies: That proves it's not our fault when drug-addicts buy more drugs. It's our job to sell more drugs this year, so don't blame us for doing a good job.
F Shorts (Score:2)
I *HATE* "shorts". And never watch any.
I also don't login with YouTube.
My life was made so much better when I discovered that UBlock Origin (Firefox, of course) can actually hide all the Shorts crap!
https://github.com/gijsdev/ubl... [github.com]
shorts drive me crazy (Score:1)
I can't stand the lack of time elapsed/total indicators and forward/backward buttons
I don't need help (Score:2)
A daily time limit? (Score:2)
Great, can I set it to zero?
At least I finally realized that "YouTube Movies" is actually a channel, so it can be blocked from recommendations!
Bah! (Score:2)
I want desktop watchers to be able KILL shorts DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!
When I click on a subscription that announces a new video, I don't want to watch a 20 second portrait video done with a phone held the WRONG way.
I tried many extensions to hide that crap, no luck!
The gigacorp helping You, eh? (Score:2)
shorts (Score:2)
Lip service to some lawyer somewhere. (Score:2)