Ukraine Is Jamming Russia's 'Superweapon' With a Song (404media.co) 138
Longtime Slashdot reader fahrbot-bot shares a report from 404 Media: The Ukrainian Army is knocking a once-hyped Russian superweapon out of the sky by jamming it with a song and tricking it into thinking it's in Lima, Peru. The Kremlin once called its Kh-47M2 Kinzhal ballistic missiles "invincible." Joe Biden said the missile was "almost impossible to stop." Now Ukrainian electronic warfare experts say they can counter the Kinzhal with some music and a re-direction order. [...] Kinzhals and other guided munitions navigate by communicating with Russian satellites that are part of the GLONASS system, a GPS-style navigation network. Night Watch uses a jamming system called Lima EW to generate a disruption field that prevents anything in the area from communicating with a satellite. Many traditional jamming systems work by blasting receivers on munitions and aircraft with radio noise. Lima does that, but also sends along a digital signal and spoofs navigation signals. It "hacks" the receiver it's communicating with to throw it off course.
Night Watch shared pictures of the downed Kinzhals with 404 Media that showed a missile with a controlled reception pattern antenna (CRPA), an active antenna that's meant to resist jamming and spoofing. "We discovered that this missile had pretty old type of technology," Night Watch said. "They had the same type of receivers as old Soviet missiles used to have. So there is nothing special, there is nothing new in those types of missiles." Night Watch told 404 Media that it used this Lima to take down 19 Kinzhals in the past two weeks. First, it replaces the missile's satellite navigation signals with the Ukrainian song "Our Father Is Bandera."
Any digital noise or random signal would work to jam the navigation system, but Night Watch wanted to use the song because they think it's funny. "We just send a song... we just make it into binary code, you know, like 010101, and just send it to the Russian navigation system," Night Watch said. "It's just kind of a joke. [Bandera] is a Ukrainian nationalist and Russia tries to use this person in their propaganda to say all Ukrainians are Nazis. They always try to scare the Russian people that Ukrainians are, culturally, all the same as Bandera." Once the song hits, Night Watch uses Lima to spoof a navigation signal to the missiles and make them think they're in Lima, Peru. Once the missile's confused about its location, it attempts to change direction. These missiles are fast -- launched from a MiG-31 they can hit speeds of up to Mach 5.7 or more than 4,000 miles per hour -- and an object moving that fast doesn't fare well with sudden changes of direction.
Night Watch shared pictures of the downed Kinzhals with 404 Media that showed a missile with a controlled reception pattern antenna (CRPA), an active antenna that's meant to resist jamming and spoofing. "We discovered that this missile had pretty old type of technology," Night Watch said. "They had the same type of receivers as old Soviet missiles used to have. So there is nothing special, there is nothing new in those types of missiles." Night Watch told 404 Media that it used this Lima to take down 19 Kinzhals in the past two weeks. First, it replaces the missile's satellite navigation signals with the Ukrainian song "Our Father Is Bandera."
Any digital noise or random signal would work to jam the navigation system, but Night Watch wanted to use the song because they think it's funny. "We just send a song... we just make it into binary code, you know, like 010101, and just send it to the Russian navigation system," Night Watch said. "It's just kind of a joke. [Bandera] is a Ukrainian nationalist and Russia tries to use this person in their propaganda to say all Ukrainians are Nazis. They always try to scare the Russian people that Ukrainians are, culturally, all the same as Bandera." Once the song hits, Night Watch uses Lima to spoof a navigation signal to the missiles and make them think they're in Lima, Peru. Once the missile's confused about its location, it attempts to change direction. These missiles are fast -- launched from a MiG-31 they can hit speeds of up to Mach 5.7 or more than 4,000 miles per hour -- and an object moving that fast doesn't fare well with sudden changes of direction.
Doesn't matter (Score:4, Insightful)
The trumpistan chose to let putin win.
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You got that right, Putin's secret weapon is his bitch in the Oval Office. If only Ukraine had a song that would neuter that idiot.
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Re: Doesn't matter (Score:5, Informative)
No. trumpistan chose to renege on its NPT obligation of providing security to Ukraine, an obligation it took in the early 90s when Ukraine was forced to give up its share of the Soviet nuclear weapons. Britain, also a signatory, remembered its obligations and has kept its promise.
I'll also remind you and the other paid russia trolls here that your territory also had the same obligations, along with a border treaty with Ukraine, which your little dictator signed in 2003. Nevertheless, you attacked Ukraine viciously and justified that with a barrage of lies that you yourself continue here.
WW3 is now much more likely, because the KGB ogre that is fucking you over is sure he will get a free pass. So he'll readily throw more of you in the fray, because to him you're garbage of even less value than we in the West are. As he told you a while ago, we will burn, and you - you'll go to Heaven.
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No, he chose war in Europe, this is the next step for putin. You didn't really think the ruzzian murderers that make up their armed forces will be allowed to return back to the motherland alive, did you? The next target is Estonia or Latvia, then Poland and the rest will follow. Regardless what anyone thinks, ruzzia has learned to fight the next type of war and nobody is ready for this except for one nation, that is holding the orcs - Ukraine.
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I've often wondered about this - is the main goal to simply get all those with a tendency for murder to fight it out until these genes are no more - and if you can gain some territory along the way, so be it - so all countries collude to aid each other in rooting-out violence.
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no, the goal is keeping power and gaining glory by restoring the old ussr back and then some. The fact that it is done by using the criminal element as well as the regular army just shows how unprepared the dictator is.
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Re: Doesn't matter (Score:5, Insightful)
The RF already lost the war. They have failed to achieve all of their declared goals, partly because most of these were lies to begin with, and they are basically broke.
The imbecile that you dumbfucks put in the white house, a loser compromised by the KGB back in the late 80s, has given putin what he could not win on the battlefield.
Therefore, war crime enablers and traitors of freedom and democracy, please fuck off and be so kind to die in a septic hole.
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This, of course, isn't a big surprise - all of putin's "super-weapons" are leftovers from the weapons R&D programs of the USSR. Almost all the time these are the leftovers that the smarter Soviet engineers had discarded decades ago, like the nuclear torpedo, the nuclear ramjet, the anti-ballistic chemical lasers and so on. In few cases, these are revivals of rocket types dismantled under this or that disarmament treaty.
Re: Doesn't matter (Score:5, Insightful)
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Putin to agree to the peace deal where they'd stop killing Ukrainians in Donbass.
Yes, as you observe correctly, the only party that has been killing Ukrainians in Donbass through all these years has been the one sent in by rashistan.
They missed an excellent opportunity (Score:1)
for a Rickroll.
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I saw the headline and immediately thought "oh, please, please be that song"
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Or better still: Slim Whitman's Indian Love Call. [youtube.com]
Next step (Score:2)
Re:Next step (Score:4, Informative)
They can't. Any significant change in course causes the 4,000MPH missile to break apart. Only minor and fine course corrections are possible when the missile is at operating speed. Large course changes and it deconstructs.
Re: Next step (Score:2)
Maybe they can send it to Transnistria.
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Target one of the ghost ships or submarine in the Atlantic?
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Assuming they know the location.
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They can't. Any significant change in course causes the 4,000MPH missile to break apart. Only minor and fine course corrections are possible when the missile is at operating speed.
Which seems like sloppy engineering. I'm not a rocket scientist or weapons designer but even I realize you'd want to put rate limits on your flight controls. And the flight control software ought to handle abrupt changes in received location.
If I were the Russians, I'd be updating my software, not adding receivers. And if I were the Ukrainians, I'd be getting ready to tell the missiles they are only 10, then 20, 50, 100, 1000 meters away from where they really are.
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You would change your missile system so that course changes outside the design requirement could allow an enemy to inject commands and turn the missile back on yourself?
I'm not sure that you've fully thought through your "improvement".
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You would change your missile system so that course changes outside the design requirement could allow an enemy to inject commands and turn the missile back on yourself?
I'm not sure that you've fully thought through your "improvement".
I have no idea how you read that in what I wrote.
If I were the Russians, I'd be updating the software so that if the missile decides it needs to turn 180 degrees, it should limit it's turn to whatever the airframe can safely handle. And I'd update the software to treat location data with suspicion if the missile's position abruptly changes 10,000 miles when it had high confidence it knew where it was. And I'd update the software to fall back to dead reckoning or inertial guidance if I have reason to not tru
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This is pure cope. I thought this site was full of technical people.
GPS (and GLONASS) spoofing has been going on for years now. It's a non-stop back and forth to try to break the other side's protocols. Even fairly recently there's stories about spoofing causing Russian drones to go into Poland. However, the attacks never stopped, so either spoofing rarely succeeded, or the Russians patched it immediately.
So in this case too, assuming there was a breakthrough, it'll be patched in a few days. We should be ab
They did it for the lulz (Score:3)
Any digital noise or random signal would work to jam the navigation system, but Night Watch wanted to use the song because they think it's funny.
So they literally did it for the lulz.
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I think one of the big things I've learned from this stupid war is watching ukranians on social media , and Ukranians are *very funny people*. I guess when your dirt poor, and live in a part of the world that turns to bitter ice for half the year you gotta have a sense of humor to go with the vodka.
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What bitter ice are you talking about? Even northernmost Ukraine is on the same latitude as central Germany and south Ukraine used to be a sea resort before the war.
Re:They did it for the lulz (Score:5, Informative)
I just landed in Warsaw, taking a ride to Ukraine right now. There are dirt poor people living in Ukraine, I am sure, probably some older folks are. That said, I work with over 950 people from Ukraine, vast majority of them living in Ukraine, over 200 people in software development, over 600 in support, many sales and other roles. Half of them own their homes, half of them have their own cars, everyone owns a computer, power banks, generators, satellite communication equipment, most also have fiber at home. They dine in nice restaurants, food is not worse than anywhere.
Here is a link to one of many restaurants I frequent when in Odessa for example. https://maps.app.goo.gl/GvHDHh... [app.goo.gl]
Here is one in Kiev https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSnpEW... [app.goo.gl]
one in Mykolaiv https://maps.app.goo.gl/Sd72r6... [app.goo.gl]
here is a shopping mall in Harkiv https://maps.app.goo.gl/3osPzi... [app.goo.gl]
You should maybe find out a few things before typing something, though we know that paper tolerates everything.
Re: They did it for the lulz (Score:1)
Russia trolls out today down modding people who tell the truth.
Re: They did it for the lulz (Score:2)
I think most people in similar situations would act similarly. What's interesting is Ukraine military strategy supports this sort of thing. I'm guessing much of the amusing behavior from Ukrainians we see on social media would get an American soldier in trouble.
Missed opportunity (Score:2)
Why not poof the location such that it gently turns back and hits the kremlin midget?
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Re: Missed opportunity (Score:2)
I don't think Poland or Lithuania would be cool with sending missiles over their airspace.
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Why not poof the location such that it gently turns back and hits the kremlin midget?
That would be epic. Without knowing the missile's actual target, you probably can't spoof it accurately enough.
I was wondering if you could make them collide in mid-air. That would be pretty cool. But if you're under attack, it's probably best to just kill the damn things now and not get cute. Kind of like now Dr. Evil should just shoot Austin Powers and skip the bad tempered sea bass.
Must be Mariah Carey All I want for xmas (Score:2)
The moment I hear that song I take a turn of 180 degrees.
I don't thnk it'd change direction suddenly (Score:3)
From the story: ... and an object moving that fast doesn't fare well with sudden changes of direction.
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This seems strange to me...
I would expect that the control system has various rate limiters and such. So even with a sudden change in estimated direction of velocity of the vehicle, I'd expect the control system to rate limit e.g. the reference state (or trajectory), and/or limit control signals to control surfaces. Further, if there's an abrupt change in estimated direction, I'd expect the control system to mark that signal as invalid and try to go with inertial navigation for awhile.
Fun fact: When I worked with rockets, we checked and planned for layers in the atmosphere with different wind directions -- wind shear. Otherwise, to the rocket, it'll appear as a sudden increase in the angle of attack and in some cases the vehicle might break apart. Back then we released balloons with transponders to check for wind shear layers. I don't know if they still do that.
GLONASS showed Soviet weakness by the end (Score:4, Interesting)
If you look at the design of GPS signals, they drew on then-novel (1970s) pseudorandom codes and digital matched filtering and multiplexing work that was being researched for both defense applications and also made its way into early CDMA cell phones.
This is what lets up to 65 or something GPS signals broadcast on the same band at the same time and the receivers could disambiguate them apart.
The GLONASS system didn't have that. There was no Soviet private communications sector driving that innovation and Soviet academics were very late to the gamr on all things digital (Store clerks used an abacus and think I remember my dad using a slide rule in the 80s when in the West cheap calculators were everywhere).
So GLONASS was built using separate frequency bands for each satellite. There weren't enough bands allocated so satellites on opposite sides of the globe have to share bands so that no two satellites in view from anywhere overlap in frequency and jam eachother.
I remember reading this at some point for the first time about 15 or 20 years ago when GPS III was on the drawing board here and Putin was making noise about reconstituting GLONASS to its full glory days. And I remember asking myself (yet again) how the fuck did such a backward place hold its own for so long?
So Long (Score:1)
Re:GLONASS showed Soviet weakness by the end (Score:5, Informative)
so why do you defend chamberlain-ism surrender to this supposed weak country.
Trump’s Ukraine Peace Deal Appears to Be Translated From Russian [newrepublic.com]
how the fuck did such a backward place hold its own for so long?
as far as today in this last decade because they have managed to manipulate the worst impulses of the conservative movement in america. it's funny that by supporting the "ukraine should give up" positions republicans are aligned with actual american communists who say the same, for the same reasons, they're russia simps even if for different reasons (but both are manipulated through russia hybrid warfare)
"make america great"
Re: GLONASS showed Soviet weakness by the end (Score:1)
You're pretending there's a good option on the table. There isn't one.
Option 1 is make lots of noise about defending democracy while half assesly egging along an overt proxy war with a nuclear armed adversary, being prosecuted by a country just as crooked as that adversary (sharing centuries of cultural ties with it), just more broke.
Option 2 is accepting that that aforementioned nuclear armed adversary actually achieved military conquest over some territory already (11 years ago) and exercises de facto con
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A nuclear power lost...
Vietnam
Korea (tie is both losing)
Iraq
Afghanistan (twice; arguably they both lost their empires too.)
Outside nations were involved back then too.
Russian losses will be greater this time than that time. Somebody look it up; I bet they lost more money already.
Re:GLONASS showed Soviet weakness by the end (Score:5, Interesting)
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Maybe just duplicate whatever glonass signals are being broadcast in peru or wherever (encrypted or not) and let the rocket think its halfway around the world? Its possible they do not have systems in place to ignore the signal if it suddenly changes and shows a location far away.
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Basically, a replay attack. The only GNSS immune to replay attacks is Galileo, and possibly Beidou. GPS encryption prevents the enemy from obtaining precise location data, and that's it. You can use a replay attack with the encrypted data, and you are good to go. Because Galileo was designed much later, when all these potential attack vectors were known about, they took steps to make it immune to them.
What surprises me about this war is that all the drones are using GPS or Glonass rather than Galileo, espec
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The main reason for pseudorandom codes was less about jamming and more about being able to grab a really weak signal buried in the noise. CDMA works by increasing the band's noise level but by running the noise through a correlator the signal.
CDMA is "magic" in that you can get at signals buried below the noise floor - that by running the received noise through a correlator, a desired signal could magically pop out of the noise. Well, it wasn't quite so - the real noise floor (caused by everything) is still
can Russia try to use an DMCA take down to stop th (Score:4, Funny)
can Russia try to use an DMCA take down to stop this?
Didn't the Finns do a similar trick? (Score:2)
I remember reading that the Finns started playing over radio frequencies the famous polka song "Säkkijärven polkka," which was found to be extremely effective in shutting down remote controlled land mines the Red Army placed on the ground and causing casualties for several months starting around September 1941. So much so that the Finnish Army ended its jamming practice by spring 1942 as the batteries on the Soviet mines lost its charge.
Puberty Love (Score:2)
Thwarted the attack of the killer tomatoes. I wonder if the Ukrainian engineers had that in the back of their minds.
Forbes has more info (Score:1)
Missed opportunity / wrong song (Score:2)
Pull a Star Trek Beyond and use Sabotage by the Beastie Boys
Re:The song: "Our father is Bandera" (Score:5, Insightful)
If you want to know why a lot of Ukranians saw the Nazis as the "lesser evil", take a look at Holodomor [britannica.com], just under 4 million Ukranians died of starvation around 1931 - 1934, another million died the same way in other grain producing areas outside the Ukraine.
btw, a large part of current-day western Ukraine was either Poland or Romania before WW2, and a large proportion of those killed by Bandera's followers were Poles. Poland had expanded its borders eastwards at the end of WW1 while the Russian Empire was tearing itself apart in the Revolution. Ethnic Cleansing writ large.
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LOL. Just a coincidence I'm sure.
Must be true. All the russian propagandists are saying it.
You probably think russia won WW2. And didn't even realise they were completely dependent on America the whole time.
Re: The song: "Our father is Bandera" (Score:1)
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Russia was utterly dependent on America
Perhaps but the Soviet Union certainly wasn't, its war production exceeded Germany's.
Re:The song: "Our father is Bandera" (Score:5, Insightful)
If you want to know why a lot of Ukranians saw the Nazis as the "lesser evil", take a look at Holodomor [britannica.com], just under 4 million Ukranians died of starvation around 1931 - 1934, another million died the same way in other grain producing areas outside the Ukraine.
The interesting thing is both the regimes responsible were authoritarian dictatorships. When one party rules, unaccountable, in totalitarianism it does not really matter the entry point whether it’s left or right as the end result is nearly indistinguishable. It smacks of the Cubans voting so heavily for Trump because of an authoritarian and then the authoritarian promptly revokes their rights including citizenship and crushes them. The problem is removal of the power and accountability from the people, the people can force their hand because productivity still comes from them. In cases where a large majority of the income comes from a source largely devoid of people, like mining or fossil fuels, they have no chance and remain subjugated until that resource runs out. In the next 50 years if we archive capable AI like systems it will be forever.
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I suppose it's tongue in cheek as it's russia that's been gaslighting its own population about nazis (of which russia has more of its own than any other country).
Still a controversial choice as it gives the excuse to russians and western tankies tol shake their head, pretend or for real.
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Bandera is a national hero, fighting for Ukrainian freedom from occupiers, the ruzzians spout nonsense. Ukrainians are actually proud that Bandera was a Ukrainian. If the ruzzians went to war against the USA they would call George Washington a nazi, whatever.
Re: The song: "Our father is Bandera" (Score:5, Interesting)
He wasn't a Nazi but George Washington did a genocide and was named "Town Killer" for it. And before someone points out that was his father, no, his father (who was also named George) ALSO did a genocide and was called the same thing for the same reason.
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Re: The song: "Our father is Bandera" (Score:1, Troll)
The name was given to his great-grandfather. They gave it to him only after realizing who his great-grandfather was (whose name was John, not George.) Neither George nor John participated in any form of genocide, not only because the term didn't even exist at the time, but also because it doesn't meet the modern definition of it. There are also some important details you're deliberately leaving out:
- John Washington attacked the Iroquois towns referenced on behalf of the British crown, after numerous incide
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Survival of the fittest I suppose...
The same Technology that made the "white man" more fit is also now destroying the environment and making us all unfit.
Re: The song: "Our father is Bandera" (Score:2)
They should have supported the French. The French interactions with Americans were typically much more civil than their interactions with the British and the American colonists. But the French mostly left after the French and Indian war. If the Haudenosaunee had supported the French instead of the British, the British would likely have lost the French and Indian War and America would have turned out VERY different. In the long run, it may or may not have worked out for the Haudenosaunee. But it seems like a
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I suppose the Germans weren't actually occupying Ukraine?
Oh, it's roman_mir, your grasp of history is tenuous at best so I shouldn't be surprised.
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the Germans occupied Ukraine, actually occupied the house of one of my grandfather. What is your stupid point?
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Are you certain that it's not Wannabe from the Spice Girls, but it has more to do with the date of arms manufacture, and not because the band had a monster hit tour in South America
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Bandera's idea was that once Germany conquered the USSR he was going to rule it as a vassal state for the Nazis. Hitler on the other hand had no intention of any Slavic "untermenchen" being allowed to rule anything so put him under arrest. His fanatics still continued to happily serve their Nazi masters, and carried out many massacres of Roma, Jews and Poles. Several of the death camps were guarded by Ukrainian POWs, apparently the Germans felt safe arming them as long as they had Jews and Poles to abuse
Re: The song: "Our father is Bandera" (Score:3)
Nationalists make excellent useful idiots during an invasion of your country.
Re: Legacy Media BEFORE the war. "Ukraine are Nazi (Score:5, Informative)
"Remember, Na-Zi means National SOCIALIST, and that's that fascism is."
Remember, the Nazis literally called themselves socialists to fool stupid people, and you also don't know what either socialism or fascism is if you think one is a type of the other.
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"Remember, Na-Zi means National SOCIALIST, and that's that fascism is."
Remember, the Nazis literally called themselves socialists to fool stupid people, and you also don't know what either socialism or fascism is if you think one is a type of the other.
Aye. The actual socialists who fell for the Nazi lies about being socialist were assassinated in the Night of Long Knives in 1934. It was a useful ploy early on for the Nazis to gain support, but by 1934 they no longer needed it.
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Aye. The actual socialists who fell for the Nazi lies about being socialist were assassinated in the Night of Long Knives in 1934. It was a useful ploy early on for the Nazis to gain support, but by 1934 they no longer needed it.
I think that implies more calculation than was really there. Hitler was in power and backed by the German industrialists.The brownshirts were not happy about it and posed a real threat. It was more an internal power struggle for control of the Nazi movement than ideological.
Re: Legacy Media BEFORE the war. "Ukraine are Naz (Score:2, Interesting)
Remember, the Nazis literally called themselves socialists to fool stupid people,
The whole point of socialism is to fool stupid people. That's exactly why you buy into it. Fascism and socialism share a massive overlap on the venn diagram, both making stupid promises that history has shown repeatedly that they can't keep. They both need people like you who are stupid enough to become their henchmen.
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Do you really think it is stupid to use a credit union, as socialist of an organization as you will find, owned by the users and run democratically, instead of a bank, a capitalist organization.
Re: Legacy Media BEFORE the war. "Ukraine are Naz (Score:2)
A credit union is not socialist. They are, in fact, private, corporate entities. The fact that you don't know the meaning of the word "socialism" proves exactly what I just said.
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No, they didn't, but they weren't socialist either.
The original party was a diverse coalition of shitty people, some of whom considered themselves socialists because socialism isn't, outside of the Americas, considered a "bad word", especially in a Europe that was having trouble adjusting to a world war and unfettered capitalism during the industrial revolution. Workers rights are not a bad thing. It had, by that point, been watered down to practically a feel good term, the way "Freedom" is in the US.
Anywho
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"Remember, Na-Zi means National SOCIALIST, and that's that fascism is."
Remember, the Nazis literally called themselves socialists to fool stupid people, and you also don't know what either socialism or fascism is if you think one is a type of the other.
History lesson Children.
First things first, the Nazis never called themselves Nazis... We did that. I mean the German exiles in Britain and the British press were very happy to run with it. The Nazis just called themselves "Germans".
Secondly, one of the core tenants of Fascism is the transformation and rebirth of language, the idea was that you could control the way people thought if you controlled the language they used (which as history has shown was bass-ackwards, language evolves to reflect what
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Ah yes, I guess they weren't *true* Scotsmen either?
In this case, I mean literally... literally. You can find citations trivially. Everyone should know this by now. If you want to talk about Nazis, you should know something about Nazis.
who gave the Nazis mod points? (Score:2)
And why do they keep giving them?
At this point it's natural to conclude that B1zX is run by literal Nazis.
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When your party's leader is against putting the word in your party's title, and when he executes party higher-ups who consider themselves socialist, it's fair to say "no true scotsman" doesn't come into it.
Jesus, would it kill you to read even a Wikipedia summary of what the Nazis were and did? Or are you too afraid about what you might find out?
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Are you trying to say the reason Nazis were bad was the "socialism" part?
Russian bot or really dumb?
Re: Legacy Media BEFORE the war. "Ukraine are Nazi (Score:2)
Yeah, I'd say it's the nationalism that's problematic.
Re: Legacy Media BEFORE the war. "Ukraine are Nazi (Score:2)
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Believing the Nazi's were defined by solely by their anti-semitism leads people to think Ukraine can't be Nazi since it has a leader of Jewish ancestry.
Ukraine can't be Nazi because it is not operated along Nazi ideals, and because the majority of the population is not made up of Nazis, not because of who sits in the big chair. Having Nazis in it doesn't make it Nazi. Nazis went all over the place, and there are descendants of Nazis who may still hold Nazi ideals all over the place. Ukraine has a neo-Nazi problem, but so does the USA. Do you call the USA a Nazi country? It sure does look a lot closer than Ukraine right now.
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Lol. Such a terrific job. That alleged set of US money laundering operators is selling out Ukraine to putler as we speak.
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Former FBI informant pleads guilty to lying about phony bribery scheme involving the Bidens [apnews.com]
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if "the big guy" is enough to implicate Joe Biden of bribery than "trump blowing bubba" is enough to say the president sucked horse dick
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I know a guy that openly accepts money for pardons.
Re:Legacy Media BEFORE the war. "Ukraine are Nazis (Score:5, Informative)
I know the truth can be painful.
https://thehill.com/homenews/a... [thehill.com]
Here's a crypto scammer that was pardoned and when asked Trump had no idea who the guy even was. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t... [cbsnews.com]