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Was the Moon-Forming Protoplanet 'Theia' a Neighbor of Earth? (mps.mpg.de) 21

Theia crashed into earth and formed the moon, the theory goes. But then where did Theia come from? The lead author on a new study says "The most convincing scenario is that most of the building blocks of Earth and Theia originated in the inner Solar System. Earth and Theia are likely to have been neighbors."

Though Theia was completely destroyed in the collision, scientists from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research led a team that was able to measure the ratio of tell-tale isotopes in Earth and Moon rocks, Euronews explains: The research team used rocks collected on Earth and samples brought back from the lunar surface by Apollo astronauts to examine their isotopes. These isotopes act like chemical fingerprints. Scientists already knew that Earth and Moon rocks are almost identical in their metal isotope ratios. That similarity, however, has made it hard to learn much about Theia, because it has been difficult to separate material from early Earth and material from the impactor.

The new research attempts a kind of planetary reverse engineering. By examining isotopes of iron, chromium, zirconium and molybdenum, the team modelled hundreds of possible scenarios for the early Earth and Theia, testing which combinations could produce the isotope signatures seen today. Because materials closer to the Sun formed under different temperatures and conditions than those further out, those isotopes exist in slightly different patterns in different regions of the Solar System.

By comparing these patterns, researchers concluded that Theia most likely originated in the inner Solar System, even closer to the Sun than the early Earth.

The team published their findings in the journal Science. Its title? "The Moon-forming impactor Theia originated from the inner Solar System."
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Was the Moon-Forming Protoplanet 'Theia' a Neighbor of Earth?

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  • By interacting with millions of small bodies, Earth may have been losing orbital velocity and moved closer to Theia's orbit, setting up the collision.
    • I have thought about this in the last month. I find it interesting that the article seems to find isotopes that indicate that Theia was closer to the sun. From where did they find the isotopes I wonder? I suspect that two large masses were orbiting the sun at about the same distance, probably a similar orbit, and crashed into each other, creating our moon. The isotopes would have been mixed/mashed together though, it seems.
    • Oh boy this takes ancestor-guilt to the next level. Like shit, great great great great grandpa (of every race btw) held slaves .. that was bad.. but now you're telling me his great great great great^10 grandpa crashed into a whole fucking planet?

    • It would have been quite spectacular to watch the collision.

    • by arglebargle_xiv ( 2212710 ) on Monday November 24, 2025 @12:29AM (#65814505)
      Could it have been a chunk of Alderaan that got thrown into our solar system when it was blown up? The documentary just says "a long time ago" but doesn't give an exact timeline.
      • I know you posted that tongue in cheek but the answer is no.

        Or more specifically, not unless the explosion was powerful enough to throw that piece of Alderaan into our universe from a parallel one where our laws of physics don't apply (and FTL travel is possible), and parsec is a unit of time. (And events can be retroactively change to determine such pesky details as who shot first...)

      • That happened in a galaxy far, far away. No way it could make it this far.

        • Probably Q wormholed it into our galaxy just to mess with us!
          • The universe becomes kind of staid when you're practically immortal. ... the Doctor spend most of his time wooing British women.

        • That happened in a galaxy far, far away. No way it could make it this far.

          Another documentary, Space 1999, would strongly disagree with this assertion. Space might be big, but the moon can be launched away from Earth via nuclear explosions so fast that it will come across an intelligent species every week!

  • Of course it's common sense that the Earth and the moon are made up of similar materials....rest is the theory goes, made up,!
  • Of course it's nice to see the argument made with substantiation. That's far beyond my ability. But right from the first time I heard the moon origin hypothesis I imagined two rocky planets drifting into each other when clearing their orbits.

    The only other thing that seemed plausible was a strike from a rogue planet from somewhere else, but that's just so spectacularly unlikely I never gave it much credence.

    *shrug* So, yeah. The thing that seems intuitively right turns out likely to be true. Not a revelatio

  • I thought there was an explanation that Theia formed in the same orbit as Earth, each at a Trojan point with the other. This is unstable and eventually they crashed into each other. Is this now considered impossible?

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