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Microsoft Lowers AI Software Sales Quota As Customers Resist New Products (reuters.com) 32

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: Multiple divisions at Microsoft have lowered sales growth targets for certain artificial intelligence products after many sales staff missed goals in the fiscal year that ended in June, The Information reported on Wednesday. It is rare for Microsoft to lower quotas for specific products, the report said, citing two salespeople in the Azure cloud unit. The division is closely watched by investors as it is the main beneficiary of Microsoft's AI push. [...]

The Information report said Carlyle Group last year started using Copilot Studio to automate tasks such as meeting summaries and financial models, but cut its spending on the product after flagging Microsoft about its struggles to get the software to reliably pull data from other applications. The report shows the industry was in the early stages of adopting AI, said D.A. Davidson analyst Gil Luria. "That does not mean there isn't promise for AI products to help companies become more productive, just that it may be harder than they thought."

Microsoft Lowers AI Software Sales Quota As Customers Resist New Products

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  • Anti-features (Score:5, Insightful)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:08PM (#65832811)
    Maybe I'm just a weirdo but I am very annoyed at them for trying to take away the option of local-only accounts. Why do I need to let them be a third party to everything I do starting with logging in? Nobody asked for this.
    • Datamining, Microsoft is going to milk their customers for as much money as they possibly can, I would dump Microsoft and switch to Linux
    • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

      A bunch of reasons, but the most obvious is that they want to tie your soon to be mandatory usage of their "AI" cloud to an account so they can store all your stuff on their servers and cut you off if you use those bazillions of GPUs more than they expect.

      Also, Bitlocker seems to be tied to a Microsoft account because it appears they store the password there. I set up a new Windows PC recently and it decided to turn Bitlocker on without asking me, but ultimately it didn't seem to encrypt the disk because I'

      • BitLocker is most definitely linked to a Microsoft account. At least in the Windows 11 configurations I'm familiar with. You can log onto the "Microsoft 365" website (or whatever it's called this month) and retrieve the keys. In theory at least...

        In theory at least - I've found around 10% of the Bitlocker keys in our corporate configuration refuse to pull up on the Microsoft 365 site. It will show the device, it will show a "recovery ID" implying there's an associated Bitlocker key on file, but the site wil

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by DarkOx ( 621550 )

      Nope the

      AdTech - guys asked for it
      The AI - guys asked for it
      The cloak and dagger - guys probably asked for it ...

    • Maybe I'm just a weirdo but I am very annoyed at them for trying to take away the option of local-only accounts.

      Are those two things somehow mutually exclusive?

    • by abulafia ( 7826 ) on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @03:19PM (#65833379)
      Or more specifically, to own your digital artifacts and identity.

      Making you authenticate to the mothership makes it far easier to:

      - surveil everything you do on your machine and over the network
      - progressively make it harder to save files locally - they really want your data in Onedrive
      - add metered billing for certain features
      - and of course record details about how you respond to ads, which is the ultimate goal of every software company now

    • Maybe I'm just a weirdo but I am very annoyed at them for trying to take away the option of local-only accounts. Why do I need to let them be a third party to everything I do starting with logging in? Nobody asked for this.

      At this stage, the best way forward is to apply the "Debian" patch to your system to restore local accounts, and strip out the all the daft AI guff

    • by Junta ( 36770 )

      Not a weirdo, and it's all about their business interests against the users.

      A user increasingly keeps their device over a longer term, 8 year old devices are common. Between their needs not evolving and to the extent they are, they focus on their phones. As a result, Microsoft gets thrown a few dollars by the OEM when the device sold, and that's it.

      Meanwhile, if they get someone into a microsoft account, they can upsell them on subscriptions to office and onedrive, and easily make more money per user per y

  • The companies that understand will fully embrace automation, not the vendors pretend AI! Why?
    Because Today's AI is just fancy automation pretending to be AI for sales and marketing purposes!
    Smart companies know this!

    The true message for where we are today is.
    Today's AI is Smoke and Mirrors! But Automation just works!
  • Yeah, just like the promise that crypto would replace fiat currency, and the promise that buying nothing and receiving a JPG of a cartoon monkey as a receipt was a wise investment vehicle. I can't wait for the bubble to pop so we can get this "Useless chatbots in literally everything" era over with.
  • by MpVpRb ( 1423381 ) on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:21PM (#65832869)

    ...are nonsense
    The proper approach would be to allow customers to try the AI tools for free and give honest feedback
    Customers should be advised of the existence of the AI tools and given the option to use or not
    The AI should not be forced or otherwise coerced and should be easy to turn off
    If something is really good, people will choose it voluntarily and even pay for it

    • by 0123456 ( 636235 )

      MBAs only care about the value of their stock options, not whether their ideas are nonsense.

      And AI is The New Hotness right now.

    • The proper approach would be to allow customers to try the AI tools for free and give honest feedback

      (etc.)

      That's all true if your goal is to serve customers, as opposed to spying on them.

  • by ack154 ( 591432 ) on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:42PM (#65832917)

    I recently swapped my M365 family account to the classic version without AI. Fuck CoPilot.

  • The quote from the summary says it all:

    after flagging Microsoft about its struggles to get the software to reliably pull data from other applications.

    When today's AI models are just as likely to pull real data it has access to as to hallucinate, you can't rely on it at all. Just like self-driving that you have to have your hands on the wheels for, just in case.

    The most today's tech is good for is guided automation - mostly through a chat bot. And who is going to pay for that when they can get most of what they want for free from ChatGPT?

  • by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:46PM (#65832931)

    ... the Azure cloud unit... is closely watched by investors as it is the main beneficiary of Microsoft's AI push

    I'd really like to see some substantive evidence that the Azure division's profits have increased as a result of AI. Absent that evidence, I'm happy to call BS on the claim.

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      like to see some substantive evidence that the Azure division's profits have increased as a result of AI.

      HAL doesn't like scrutiny, Dave. By the way, I have your helmet.

  • lowered sales growth targets for certain artificial intelligence products ...
    lower quotas for specific products

    If it's something customers actually want, or even need, you don't need sales targets/quotas.

  • I would like to have XP 64 back, just give me SSD TRIM support and driver updates...

  • I tried it. For the first 15 minutes I thought the world had changed forever. Then I looked closely at what it was giving me. I've gone through this cycle maybe 40 times. I was even paying Open AI 20 a month for a bit. It has been a big letdown. I'm not resisting it, I just don't find it useful enough to pay for.
    • by godrik ( 1287354 )

      That is exactly what I am thinking about. It is not useless. It is just not terribly useful as a thing I have to pay for every month.

      Especially in a context where these models can be deployed locally not too difficultly, you can deploy you own model at home and serve from there and get a good 90% of the benefit for the cost a bit of electricity.

      Maybe later models will be so big that you can't run them locally. But we ain't there yet!

  • I wonder when they are going to figure out where to get the power for AI, and then how to make money off of it that will cover the massive costs which don't go down at scale but go up?
  • You can just see MS blubbering like Roger Rabbit: Ppllllbbbbsssseeeeeeesssse use our AI, it has health benefits and is fun to be with!!!

  • The division is closely watched by investors as it is the main beneficiary of Microsoft's AI push.

    ...off the cliff.

  • by devslash0 ( 4203435 ) on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @06:54PM (#65833877)

    If your product was good, there'd be no need to have sales quotas. People would be paying willingly for your product round the clock, and writing praises all over the internet. The problem is that your product is crap and shoves so much AI crap down users' throats that they can't help but vomit it right back at you.

    Less AI, more reliability and quality, and you'll need no quotas.

    • About three months ago, I had Copilot create a data table, which to my surprise came out as intended. The problem is, the table couldn't be copy-pasted, edited, printed, or otherwise accessed outside the chat. My only option to "get the table out of Copilot" was a screenshot. I had ChatGPT create it for me instead.

      Earlier this week, I asked Copilot to add a couple of events I received via email to my calendar, which it claimed to do. Today, when it was time for the first event, I noticed there was no Outloo

  • or just follow businesses as usual and force it into everything,
  • Aren't resisting their products, They never wanted them in the first place. I'm not sure what planet MS is on, But I enjoy using my computer and learning how to do stuff on it. If an 'AI' is going to do everything for me, Then it will just be me sitting in front of a screen doing nothing, And believe me I would get bored of that very quickly. Like anything else, If you take away the enjoyment, Then it becomes pointless to continue doing whatever that may be.

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