New Jolla Phone Now Available for Pre-Order as an Independent Linux Phone (9to5linux.com) 45
Jolla is "trying again with a new crowd-funded smartphone," reports Phoronix:
Finnish company Jolla started out 14 years ago where Nokia left off with MeeGo and developed Sailfish OS as a new Linux smartphone platform. Jolla released their first smartphone in 2013 after crowdfunding but ultimately the Sailfish OS focus the past number of years now has been offering their software stack for use on other smartphone devices [including some Sony Xperia smartphones and OnePlus/Samsung/ Google/ Xiaomi devices].
This new Jolla Phone's pre-order voucher page says the phone will only produced if 2,000 units are ordered before January 4. (But in just a few days they've already received 1,721 pre-orders — all discounted to 499€ from a normal price between 599 and 699 €). Estimate delivery is the first half of 2026. "The new Jolla Phone is powered by a high-performing Mediatek 5G SoC," reports 9to5Linux, "and features 12GB RAM, 256GB storage that can be expanded to up to 2TB with a microSDXC card, a 6.36-inch FullHD AMOLED display with ~390ppi, 20:9 aspect ratio, and Gorilla Glass, and a user-replaceable 5,500mAh battery." The Linux phone also features 4G/5G support with dual nano-SIM and a global roaming modem configuration, Wi-Fi 6 wireless, Bluetooth 5.4, NFC, 50MP Wide and 13MP Ultrawide main cameras, front front-facing wide-lens selfie camera, fingerprint reader on the power key, a user-changeable back cover, and an RGB indication LED. On top of that, the new Jolla Phone promises a user-configurable physical Privacy Switch that lets you turn off the microphone, Bluetooth, Android apps, or whatever you wish.
The device will be available in three colors, including Snow White, Kaamos Black, and The Orange. All the specs of the new Jolla Phone were voted on by Sailfish OS community members over the past few months. Honouring the original Jolla Phone form factor and design, the new model ships with Sailfish OS (with support for Android apps), a Linux-based European alternative to dominating mobile operating systems that promises a minimum of 5 years of support, no tracking, no calling home, and no hidden analytics...
The device will be manufactured and sold in Europe, but Jolla says that it will design the cellular band configuration to enable global travelling as much as possible, including e.g. roaming in the U.S. carrier networks. The initial sales markets are the EU, the UK, Switzerland, and Norway.
This new Jolla Phone's pre-order voucher page says the phone will only produced if 2,000 units are ordered before January 4. (But in just a few days they've already received 1,721 pre-orders — all discounted to 499€ from a normal price between 599 and 699 €). Estimate delivery is the first half of 2026. "The new Jolla Phone is powered by a high-performing Mediatek 5G SoC," reports 9to5Linux, "and features 12GB RAM, 256GB storage that can be expanded to up to 2TB with a microSDXC card, a 6.36-inch FullHD AMOLED display with ~390ppi, 20:9 aspect ratio, and Gorilla Glass, and a user-replaceable 5,500mAh battery." The Linux phone also features 4G/5G support with dual nano-SIM and a global roaming modem configuration, Wi-Fi 6 wireless, Bluetooth 5.4, NFC, 50MP Wide and 13MP Ultrawide main cameras, front front-facing wide-lens selfie camera, fingerprint reader on the power key, a user-changeable back cover, and an RGB indication LED. On top of that, the new Jolla Phone promises a user-configurable physical Privacy Switch that lets you turn off the microphone, Bluetooth, Android apps, or whatever you wish.
The device will be available in three colors, including Snow White, Kaamos Black, and The Orange. All the specs of the new Jolla Phone were voted on by Sailfish OS community members over the past few months. Honouring the original Jolla Phone form factor and design, the new model ships with Sailfish OS (with support for Android apps), a Linux-based European alternative to dominating mobile operating systems that promises a minimum of 5 years of support, no tracking, no calling home, and no hidden analytics...
The device will be manufactured and sold in Europe, but Jolla says that it will design the cellular band configuration to enable global travelling as much as possible, including e.g. roaming in the U.S. carrier networks. The initial sales markets are the EU, the UK, Switzerland, and Norway.
This will be great for about 2000 people (Score:2)
The rest of us will not want to suffer from the underdeveloped platform.
Right now, the only truly great mobile OS is GrapheneOS. Secure, fast, well-supported, and private. Nobody else compares.
Re:This will be great for about 2000 people (Score:4, Informative)
You shouldn't talk for everyone.
That GrapheneOS? Was a pain in the arse for me and I went back to LineageOS in under 48 hours.
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I am thinking about installing lineage on my old Pixel 5, which I use for audiobooks and which Google no longer supports. However, Lineage is a step backwards in security compared to Google's releases on current phones, and it just can't compare to Graphene's security. I do have a few apps that do not work on GrapheneOS, or that have broken features, but I'd expect to run into similar issues with Lineage.
Re:This will be great for about 2000 people (Score:4, Insightful)
My phone is primarily a tool. It must be usable as a tool.
Where I live, I don't have to worry about my phone getting yoinked. As such, the greatest threat to my principles is having gApps installed. Which I do. So at that point, I'm installing LOS primarily so the user experience remains about the same across devices.
But that's my point: Someone who is all about security isn't looking for the same things as somebody who isn't. I am optimizing for workflow. You are not. Hence completely different use-cases.
Re: This will be great for about 2000 people (Score:2)
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You're misunderstanding their offer. Jolla doesn't compete with GrapheneOS but with Purism.
Apart from the DoubleThink that GrapheneOS obliges you into. GrapheneOS is the OS of choice to cut away links from Google, and at the same time GrapheneOS wants to you pay dollars to Google for the hardware. Using GrapheneOS for no-google-ads is like paying Meta their monthly Facebook subscription to removes ads.
Re: This will be great for about 2000 people (Score:2)
Bad name for a phone. Let the wars over Jolla (hard J like jolly) and "h" j, as in "hoya", begin!!!
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As someone based in the southwest USA, I've been calling it hoya. Hard J, Jolla just sounds odd to me.
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Add a 5 row slide out keyboard (Score:4, Insightful)
And we might get back to the usability of the first Android phone, the HTC/T-mobile G1.
Virtual keyboards are horrid to type on, and cover half the screen.
Trackball would be nice, too.
Other hardware specs look great, especially microSD slot and replaceable battery.
Re: Add a 5 row slide out keyboard (Score:3, Funny)
That would be a laptop.
In other news, Boeing has entered the car market with 200+ seat busses with some extra features, like jwt propulsion, wings, and the ability of "driving" from London ot New York in 12 or so hours. You need a special permit to sit in the driver's seat though, driver's license won't do ir.
Re: Add a 5 row slide out keyboard (Score:5, Informative)
No, it does not have to be a laptop - it can still be a phone with typical form factor and use cases - staying in the pocket, casual chat, phone calls and video, outdoor navigation ... Case in point: I had a Nokia N900 in 2011 - it was phone-sized (a bit thicker than modern phones but not much), and could do all phone things. With wonderful two-thumbs text input. In addition, it had a resistive instead of capacitive touch screen, so I could use it even with thick gloves - Finnish design considerations?
Yeah, you could use it as a "mini-laptop" - it even ran Libreoffice and gcc. However, that was not how you typically used it, except for exceptional cases.
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In addition, it had a resistive instead of capacitive touch screen, so I could use it even with thick gloves
These days we have thick gloves which can activate a capacitive touch screen.
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Funny, I could have sworn that HTC G1 fit in my pocket. I have never seen a laptop that did.
The removal of physical keyboards from 99.9% of my smartphones is a prime example of enshitification.
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Sliders, I think, died with Nokia Symbian ^3.
Not an endorsement - I would need a man-purse to carry the thing:
https://www.unihertz.com/produ... [unihertz.com]
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You'll probably need a man purse to carry the second more usable device than this 4.5" square screen thing.
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That Symbian keyboard design doesn't look so great - only 4-rows keyboard, and the top row only has 6 buttons. The keys might not be sufficiently separated to get meaningful tactile feedback - I would have to try and feel one. But the biggest issue is that the keyboard takes away from the screen real estate. It really should be underneath.
My first smartphone, HTC G1 : 117.7 x 55.7 x 17.1 mm - 158g
Symbian ^3 : 137.8 ×88.7 ×10.8 mm - 235g
Samsung S Relay 4G, my last slide-out smartphone : 126 x 6
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My last three landscape sliders were the Nokia N900, Motorola Droid 4 and F(x)tec Pro1, so they survived longer than that, and all three were in the size range of normal phones.
Re: Add a 5 row slide out keyboard (Score:2)
There was tthe Astro Slide... I'm one of the lucky ones who actually got their device. Still using it, typing this post on it,, in fact. Unfortunately the company behind it are a clusterfuck so it only got one firmware update and they essentially ghosted Indiegogo backers after that. I'd like to get Lineage on it, but since there are proprietary Mediatek blobs involved I doubt it is going to be possible. So stuck with Android 11...
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Thanks. I was not aware of this device. The hardware specs look great. Battery is not removable.
Android 11 is a non-starter in 2025. One of the reason I own a Samsung phone nowadays is the 7 year of support.
I just bought a Galaxy S25 FE for my mother last week, after her S20 FE went out of support. Built in storage is still 128GB. The microSD slot on the new phone is gone, so she no longer has access to all the music I had stored on the microSD card for her. Talk about enshitification.
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Back in the day, phones had a numeric keypad which also allowed a kind of touch-typing for text messages. Then people started getting online with their phones more and more, and ended up typing more than talking. If things were logical, this would have resulted in better/larger keyboards for phones, such as the slide-out QWERTY ones. Instead, we lost even the small numeric keypads due to some idiotic fashion ideas.
(I still have my Nokia N900 which I use as a backup phone and camera -- it has a better cam
Volla is Jollas successor (Score:2)
https://volla.online/ [volla.online]
I'd say the similarities in name aren't by accident. I wish Jolla good luck they had a nice product but 400 euros for a crow funded phone from a company know for it's volatility probably doesn't inspire confidence in long term viability. Just saying.
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It's best to assume that banking apps won't work with anything but a non-rooted commercial Android install with its full suite of Google trash. Either that, or the most meticulously rooted systems that can fool all forms of root checking. Banks only want their apps running on walled-garden systems.
The solution for me has been to use banking websites rather than banking apps. This also eliminates the potential issues of banking apps having access to more than what can be seen through the browser, and it will
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Re:Volla is NOT Jollas successor (Score:2)
e-SIM IP68 DP-alt and good camera? (Score:2)
I still have an N9 lying around, and a few years ago bought a compatible Sony and then got a licence and put Jolla. Due to all that didn't work, I had to break off the exercise.
Nonetheless, my 1.5MHz quad core galaxy Siii had nothing against the dual core 1GHz N9, due to Meego being so much more efficient. Also, all fart apps on android use up 5 to 10MB, apps on Meego were a
Re: e-SIM IP68 DP-alt and good camera? (Score:2)
The N9 is, IMHO, the best phone I've ever had. I miss it dearly. It was destroyed by the Nokia authorized repair center when doing routine maintenance under warranty.
That phone was way ahead of its time in features (twice ahead compared with the iPhone, which only matched its features over five years later). And its performance compared with the flagship Android phones at the time (all with double the cores and double the RAM) was unparalleled.
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if possible e-SIM
If your device does not support eSIM, you still can use one through an adapter SIM that contains eSIM profiles. https://jmp.chat/esim-adapter [jmp.chat] https://www.esper.io/blog/andr... [esper.io]
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2000 is not enough (Score:2)
This thing needs support, updates, etc. That requires more than 2000 units sold. Sorry.
Configurable physical switch? (Score:2)
On top of that, the new Jolla Phone promises a user-configurable physical Privacy Switch that lets you turn off the microphone, Bluetooth, Android apps, or whatever you wish.
I am wondering about that a bit. How is a physical switch "user configurable"? Is it through tiny dip switches or jumpers accessible through a back panel? Or is a software configurable physical switch? Because that second option would make it not really much different from a virtual button in the interface. It might be a little more convenient if you want to switch those things on and off, but it defeats the main purpose of physical switches for that sort of thing which is having an actual physical interloc
My fave phone OS. (Score:2)
I've been using Sailfish since the first release (and the Nokia N770/800/810 before that).
I'm no IT guy, but even with a little experience it is powerful, I run Arch with Syncthing in a container, have syncthing also natively for the Sailfish installation.
https://github.com/kabouik/har... [github.com]
It's just the perfect phone OS to me, can run all the banking Apps I need, or Spotify etc, but also can SSH in and control it remotely, or use it as a emergency terminal to connect to my servers etc.
That and the fact that i
Interesting phone (Score:3)
If it was a cheaper, had a notchless and holeless IPS display and was able to boot OS images from SD card like the PinePhone I would pick one up. Would also love to see one with an integrated LoRa radio.
Isn't its CPU discontinued? (Score:2)
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Data says unspecified Mediatek SoC https://www.gsmarena.com/jolla... [gsmarena.com] Since it has to support 5G and Wi-Fi 6, it has to be Dimensity 7030 and above (ARM v8.2), or 8000 and above (ARM v9) (per Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] )
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From Wikipedia: x86 was their tablet project from 2015. Since then the platform has been the Sony Xperia range of phones. So they are on ARM for about 10 years.