Denmark Says Russia Was Behind Two 'Destructive and Disruptive' Cyberattacks (theguardian.com) 56
The Danish government has accused Russia of being behind two "destructive and disruptive" cyberattacks in what it describes as "very clear evidence" of a hybrid war. From a report: The Danish Defence Intelligence Service (DDIS) announced on Thursday that Moscow was behind a cyberattack on a Danish water utility in 2024 and a series of distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks on Danish websites in the lead-up to the municipal and regional council elections in November.
The first, it said, was carried out by the pro-Russian group known as Z-Pentest and the second by NoName057(16), which has links to the Russian state. "The Russian state uses both groups as instruments of its hybrid war against the west," DDIS said in a statement. "The aim is to create insecurity in the targeted countries and to punish those that support Ukraine. Russia's cyber operations form part of a broader influence campaign intended to undermine western support for Ukraine." It added: "The DDIS assesses that the Danish elections were used as a platform to attract public attention -- a pattern that has been observed in several other European elections."
The first, it said, was carried out by the pro-Russian group known as Z-Pentest and the second by NoName057(16), which has links to the Russian state. "The Russian state uses both groups as instruments of its hybrid war against the west," DDIS said in a statement. "The aim is to create insecurity in the targeted countries and to punish those that support Ukraine. Russia's cyber operations form part of a broader influence campaign intended to undermine western support for Ukraine." It added: "The DDIS assesses that the Danish elections were used as a platform to attract public attention -- a pattern that has been observed in several other European elections."
And? (Score:5, Insightful)
What will you do about it? Nothing, as usual. You whine and complain Russia is doing this to you, yet you do nothing in return.
Either punch the bully in the teeth with brass knuckles or stop complaining you've been attacked.
As Ukraine has shown, taking the fight to the bully is the only way to get results.
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Re: And? (Score:5, Informative)
No, it doesn't. Russia has shown they have a veto power through European courts over what happens to that money. Belgium and Italy gave it to them when they decided they fear Russia more than they like Ukraine. A few other countries in Europe are similarly weak-kneed.
The money the Europeans just approved for Ukraine is a loan and it is backed by the EU. They make reference to the Russian money and say that they will wait two years for Russia to pay reparations....which they know won't happen. The threat is that the EU will come for the money in two years but Russia known that is an empty threat. And Russia doesn't have to worry about Putin's Poodle, the alleged U.S. president, backing the EU.
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Denmark would have to do it through NATO. The problem with that is the U.S. has a Putin Poodle as an alleged president and hence NATO cannot rely upon the U.S. to back them up. Even Putin himself says that Europe is out of step with a Moscow-friendly U.S. So the current U.S. will cede Russian hegemony over Europe, and el Bunko will laugh all the way to the bank. It will be a few years before the price for that capitulation by the U.S. becomes apparent, but that will be after el Bunko is gone and his Maggots
Re:And? (Score:4, Insightful)
No they don't. They are free to defend themselves without NATO. Which, like the rest of Europe, won't do.
Not sure where this fear of defending oneself came from, but Europe needs to get its head out of its ass and start taking action. Ukraine's shoulders are getting tired carrying the load for them.
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They are free to defend themselves without NATO and then they are free to get squashed like a bug by Russia because the U.S. and NATO won't be behind them.
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erm ... the us and nato have been trying to beat russia for nearly 4 years now. spoiler: it isn't going well. europe in this context is just a rabid chihuahua digging its own grave, and denmark is irrelevant.
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The US and NATO have not been trying to beat Russia for nearly four years now.
They give Ukraine just enough to keep going but never enough to actually win because they don't want to see what would happen if Russia actually was on the way to being beaten.
This is what having nuclear weapons does for you, and why dictators like Kim will never give them up. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate guarantor of your state and/or dictatorship continuing to exist.
It's also why Ukraine was foolish to return their nuclear
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They give Ukraine just enough to keep going but never enough to actually win because they don't want to see what would happen if Russia actually was on the way to being beaten.
true. and because the goal was just to keep the war going in the hopes russia collapsed somehow. not happening. realizing that the us has indeed held back but nato/eu hasn't hardly anything left to give. they would like to! it has been a huge sink, wonder weapon after wonder weapon. chewing through all that was one of russia's goals, and it's nearing completion.
This is what having nuclear weapons does for you, and why dictators like Kim will never give them up. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate guarantor of your state and/or dictatorship continuing to exist.
also true except that has nothing to do with political systems, unless you're defending the idea that "good guys" should have them and "bad guys" sh
your ruzzian cope sure is funny (Score:1)
LOL ruzzia is on the brink of collapse.
Oil price is down. Nobody wants their oil anyway. No tankers are brave enough to even attempt to deliver it now.
40% of russian GDP is directed at the war. But there still isn't enough money to pay all the 'soldiers".
At least without a black sea fleet, there should be a few savings. And all those ex sailors will make excellent meatwaves/suicide troops.
nato/eu hasn't hardly anything left to give
LOL Europe is delivering more than ever. And building up production to deliver even more.
All that, and still not e
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It's also why Ukraine was foolish to return their nuclear arsenal to Russia after the breakup of the USSR. Had they kept them, this entire situation would not exist.
indeed. but not because of deterrence. ukraine had the weapons but not the launch codes, and nobody, neither the us, nor eu nor russia wanted them to have them. had they kept them the situation would not exist because there would not have been an independent ukraine to begin with, they had no choice.
Re:And? (Score:4, Informative)
indeed. but not because of deterrence. ukraine had the weapons but not the launch codes, and nobody, neither the us, nor eu nor russia wanted them to have them. had they kept them the situation would not exist because there would not have been an independent ukraine to begin with, they had no choice.
I know expecting Russian sycophants to follow basic English capitalization rules is way too heavy of a lift.
Yet if you are just going to argue against reality itself and not make any goddamn sense what is even the point of posting in the first place?
Ukraine won its independence August 24, 1991.
Budapest (Which Russia would subsequently grossly violate) was signed December 5, 1994.
For those keeping track Ukraine gave up their nukes 1199 days AFTER achieving independence.
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Ukraine gave up their nukes 1199 days AFTER achieving independence.
true, thanks for the correction.
Zero Nowledge Russian Troll (Score:1)
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It's not so simple though since Russia (like a little bitch) constantly threatens with it's nuclear arsenal. It's a bitch move because they, Europe and the world knows if they did not have that nuclear threat they would have easily been pushed out of Ukraine by now.
It's easy to say oh Denmark can just go it alone when they have to face the choice to their people and Europe and the world of "Oh, don't worry, Putin is probably bluffing, only like a 15% of nuclear strikes!"
That's why the decision to enter the
Re: And? (Score:3)
Hell, their forces aren't even up to taking Ukraine, they've had to bring in mercs from afar.
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As my other comment noted if Russia didn't have those nukes and constantly threaten their use Zelenskyy could be sipping tea on Lenin's grave by now.
The fact the supposed 3rd strongest military couldn't handle their smaller, poorer, less trained neighbors in 4 years of open combat and another 7 of paramilitary operations doesn't really speak well.
"We cheated and were only able to get basically a stalemate"
Also Ukraine didn't get to play the NATO game. Ask the Baltics how they feel about playing it, pretty
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As my other comment noted if Russia didn't have those nukes
well, if you take on a country that has nukes ... what are you thinking? btw, the nukes are still there but russia won't probably need them unless they see nukes flying towards them. they have better options now.
The fact the supposed 3rd strongest military couldn't handle their smaller, poorer, less trained neighbors in 4 years of open combat
smaller, yes, but as a matter of fact the russian army was in a quite sorry state and far less trained in 2022 as the ukranian army, which had been propped up by nato for 10 years. part of the problem, actually. things have changed, though, little is left of those early ukranian troops and russia di
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well, if you take on a country that has nukes ... what are you thinking? btw, the nukes are still there but russia won't probably need them unless they see nukes flying towards them. they have better options now.
Hey thanks for admitting Russia is hiding behind their nukes. This is just justifying it.
which had been propped up by nato for 10 years.
Ooof, you got it bad buddy. Go watch another Mearshimer video, jeez this is sooooo post-hoc. (btw this just isn't really true, actually the opposite is true)
it indeed did. all it had to do was to stay neutral, which had worked fine for more than 2 decades. but they chose to play the game suggested by their western "friends".
Oh so the Ukrainian people should just not get to choose if they want to trade with the EU, they just always and forever have to enjoin with whatever Russia want's because... let me guess, they have nukes and will cry with bullets if they don't get their way.
they can do as they wish. they do seem eager to play the game, though. it wouldn't end well either, and they would also find out that staying neutral was the better and more sane idea.
Uhhh..
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you'll have to excuse me but i'm not impressed by your obtuse self-righteousness. that mindset is devastating an entire country and bringing about world war episode 3. if your portentous brain is capable of slurping up all the insane and duplicitous western propaganda and you even revel in that despicable hypocrisy you might aswell do something about it. ukranian banderites will probably welcome you, i hear they only beat their own "conscripts" to pulp. good luck, and don't wait for me. oh, and don't wait f
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quite impressive results: get your country wrecked, losing probably a 40% of it, over a million casualties, several million people fleeing the country (most not to ever return), bankruptcy and nearly all energy infrastructure and industry wiped out, and the grim prospect of ceasing to exist as a viable nation state.
was playing the nato game worth it? i can imagine a lot of other actions that would have led to very different outcomes.
LOL before I noticed the handle of the poster I thought the post was acknowledging Russia getting itself wrecked for picking the wrong fight.
Million casualties... check.
https://united24media.com/war-... [united24media.com]
People fleeing in the millions.... check.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Bankruptcy ... check.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com... [themoscowtimes.com]
Energy infrastructure being wiped out... check.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/11... [cnn.com]
Grim prospect of ceasing to exist as a viable nation state.... one can only hope.
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What results did Ukraine get?
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They're still independent, that's a good result (for them).
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What results did Ukraine get?
They're not Russian.
The vast majority want to keep it that way.
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The EU is 27 countries. By law, they usually require unanimity for their decisions. It isn't like the United States where foreign policy is decided by a single entity. A single dissenter can water down any response. Is this a good or bad thing? Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
At any rate, I don't think it is quite as clearcut as you suggest. What do you want? "Punch the bully in the teeth" means what exactly? All out war? Would this really be good for people in the EU? For Denmark?
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Assuming Denmark has put sanctions on oil ships, they can seize those ships in the Baltic and North Seas. They can use their own hackers, assuming they have any, and disable Russian systems.
There are multiple ways to fight back without sending in the troops. What's Russia going to do, whine more?
Re: scourge (Score:1)
Now do America.
I don't blame the average Russian for Putin invading Ukraine any more than I blame myself for Trump attacking Venezuela. Or any of the literally dozens of other outright illegal or just obviously bullshit things the US has done during my lifetime.
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I don't care about America and if you are an American you should blame yourself, after all, he is your guy in power.
As to ruzzians, these are zombie cocroaches that allowed their dear leader to be in power for the last 25 years because they are all on the dole and their sense of national pride is above any level of human morality.
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Most Russians seem to be poor AF so I'm not sure being on the dole is that helpful
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You don't understand what their lives are, all of them are on the dole, the main value to them is ability to get something from the government for free, be it a public transit pass or government provided housing of some sort or government provided doctor appointment and especially they are worried about their government provided pensions. A government provided pension is more important than anything to them, including their dignity (which does not exist at all there, see any video with them standing on the
Re: scourge (Score:2)
All still sounds like the USA.
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really? does USA have a dictator running the place for 25 years, regardless of the rules? Who even appoints State governors, maybe mayors even? Court judges who rubberstamp decisions sent down from him? An actual oppressive apparatus designed to jail anyone and torture and murder? A population poor enough that an offer of a couple of thousand dollars a month is enough for them to go die in a pointless war, where theft and rape and murder and torture is not only for the enemy but is a common tool to force
Yet more Neocon warmongering BS (Score:2)
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You know I will say my liberal ass will eat some crow because as much as I did not like the neocons I would trade them 1000x over what the Republican party has turned into now and in fact I do agree with their premise that America should in fact be projecting it's power because if the United State's doesn't do it then Russia or China will and IMO even as things are looking pretty bad I think the USA is still preferable to fill that role.
Neoconservative foreign policy conceptually has some validity until you