US To Impose Tariffs on Chips From China (reuters.com) 63
An anonymous reader shares a report: The United States will take action against China's semiconductor industry, setting new tariffs on chips from China from June 23, 2027, that have 0% duties currently, the US Trade Representative said.
The announcement comes following a year-long investigation into China's chip imports into the United States, launched by the Biden administration and led by the U.S. Trade Representative. "China's targeting of the semiconductor industry for dominance is unreasonable and burdens or restricts U.S. commerce and thus is actionable," the agency said in its release.
The announcement comes following a year-long investigation into China's chip imports into the United States, launched by the Biden administration and led by the U.S. Trade Representative. "China's targeting of the semiconductor industry for dominance is unreasonable and burdens or restricts U.S. commerce and thus is actionable," the agency said in its release.
Just remember (Score:5, Insightful)
Republicans could have a vote today to take away this orange turds tariff powers. It's based on everything now being an "emergency".
Re: Just remember (Score:1)
How many Democrats have already voted for totalitarian laws against homelessness (remember Gavin Newsom's encampment sweeps?) and van lifers already? On the freedom to sleep outside, are Republicans and Democrats united in their karen-ness? Why should I vote Democratic when they've already embraced totalitarian tactics against my preferred lifestyle?
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Because you shouldn't be voting on one issue, regardless of how much it affects your objectively dumb lifestyle.
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Why won't Democrats abandon immigrants and Epstein victims too in the future just as they've thrown me under the bus?
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Why won't Democrats abandon immigrants and Epstein victims too in the future just as they've thrown me under the bus?
If you can still type they clearly don't understand how "throwing you under the bus" works.
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Did banning me from their forums effectiively make me dead to them?
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I voted one-issue in 2024, which candidate came out against using our tax dollars to enable a genocide. That eliminated both major parties. I just plain will not vote for anyone who approves of and supports genocide, and I don't know how you or anyone else can.
I quite literally cannot think of a more important issue to base a vote on than whether the candidate is going to make me an unwilling party to genocide. Can you?
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That's not Democrats! PEOPLE they represent vote them in and for the most part they still believe in democracy, unlike the Republicans.
If you get outside can talk to real people, you'll find out that most Americans are selfish assholes with some knowing what they are expected to say but quietly act like assholes. Possibly no worse than humanity when given too much success (in the past.)
Authoritariansim has been rising since the 70s as studies show. Even Gen Z is more comfortable with it; and their value of
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There is no freedom to sleep outside in urban and suburban areas and in fact it's bad.
Most folks, even liberals like myself, don't actually have an issue with draconian homeless enforcement but it's the manner in which it's done in that there is no solution really being committed to on the other end of things which to break the cycle. People sleeping on the streets is not good for greater society, just the hostile architecture [wikipedia.org] alone is a negative effect. I can't find a public bathroom in most US cities bec
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
"There is no freedom to sleep outside in urban and suburban areas and in fact it's bad."
As someone currently searching for dispersed camping sites to spend the next few upper 60 degree days, why do state policies make it so hard? Why ban camping in Missouri Conservation Department parking areas, when I leave no trace and no one really seems to mind?
What if there is an outdoor streak in America that you might not share, but forcefully getting rid of it is going to make you into a worse person, morally, becau
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That's all local stuff, I said urban and suburban because once you get out to a certian point I think you should be allowed, we just cant have people in parks and public spaces sleeping.
Now again the police would tell you there's a difference between camping and "living in the woods" and there's also a liability there if it's a managed area, go further out I guess.
To make more exits as you put it is exactly what I politically advocate for but you also have to recognize that your situation is the vast, vast
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Have you talked to any homeless? Why do I prefer people sleeping in parks and outside in suburban areas to the housed inhabitants? Does the fact that you fear you can't use a park if someone's sleeping there say more about you than about shared use?
What is wrong with imagining people sleeping out on sidewalks and green areas, and having a friendly relationship with them as you go about your business?
What if I don't share your mood affiliation about the homeless? Can I argue with you that you should study Ja
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You bulldozed entirely past my last paragraph and my overall point but you can't shame me about this, sorry.
Why do I prefer people sleeping in parks and outside in suburban areas to the housed inhabitants?
Do they? Most out there by choice and not circumstance?
Does the fact that you fear you can't use a park if someone's sleeping there say more about you than about shared use?
No because and if you actually read what I wrote instead of just picking out tone you want to hear to move onto your virtue signal you might understand why.
What is wrong with imagining people sleeping out on sidewalks and green areas, and having a friendly relationship with them as you go about your business?
Again, you are making it seem like the average person sleeping on the sidewalk is is a backpacking friendly drifter just stopping over on their next journey. 95% of people sleeping on the stre
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Can you forgive me, if what I take away from your post is that you haven't met the homeless that I regularly encounter, like Joe the ex-marine who didn't want my pot and refused my offers of money, who treated me like a real friend over three days? Or Lesha, who refuses government aid like social security disability, and sleeps under the awning of a Dollar General? Why do I feel like you've formed a notion in your head about homeless without having to actually talk to them?
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
They deliberately destroyed our public lands to make sure we all had to pay to live and you're here for it
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Did you see they had to close all the Parks Department hotels on the Grand Canyon because of lack of money to staff them? I give it 366 days from that decision to a new policy to privatize them.
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Those jobs hardly paid anything to begin with, either. I looked them over last time I was unemployed.
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Why should the opposition party lazily ban me when I try to petition them for redress of grievances?
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It would be a waste of time because the cult won't break from dear leader.
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You clearly don't understand the idea of process and procedure. The Speaker of the House can block ANYTHING from being brought to the floor, even if 95% of the members of Congress may want something, Johnson can stop it. It would then require going through a process to get through that block.
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Oh no, not "going through a process"!
So you're saying the speaker has absolute power and can control what gets voted on, unless Congress members go through "a process"? That takes a big chunk out of the definition of "absolute power"...
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The 95% thing isn't quite true because if that majority of members did support it they could file a discharge petition to get the vote, it's usually presumed the Speaker has the support of their majority. It's a nice tactic because it let's the members speak from both sides of their mouths, they can toss the blame onto the Speaker.
Pretty sure this is called the Hastert Rule [wikipedia.org] (crazy they still call it this) and it's not an actual rule, it's just a norm there is no binding mechanism.
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That goes to a big part of the problem, where Republicans are afraid that Trump might call them a bad name if they were to vote through something that is good for the country that Trump doesn't like. So, while the process is there, it's questionable if the mechanism to break the block that Johnson puts on things would actually work in this political climate. Look at how many of them have rolled over for Trump, as if they have no spine or integrity.
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Spot on, when Johnson blocks something it should be the default assumption that all the Republican members also support the block even if they don't say it.
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Look at how many of them have rolled over for Trump, as if they have no spine or integrity.
Not only Republicans, a lot of Democrats are doing the same thing. (I suspect blackmail, but they may just be opportunistic weasels.)
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his followers often hurt and do worse things, when sent in a direction from their leader.
d's dont do that, but r's do. that's the whole reason why congress is frozen solid. they all want to LIVE and not have to pay 10x for security when the leader says 'this person should be taught a lesson'. in so many words.
its not that they have or dont have backbone; but when thugs are sent to kill you, the notion of free speech is meaningless.
this is the key. his followers are killers. his ice gang are losers who
Re:Just remember (Score:5, Insightful)
The Dems can vote today also. Why don't they?
How? No seriously have a think about who controls the house, the senate, the agenda and how anything is brought to the floor, and maybe go check that cartoon video with the animated talking bill before you say something else stupid.
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With both the dollar and US industry collapsing, we should've just remained on the path we were on... right??
Yeah, going to need some citations for those claims.
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I want a 20,000 percent tariff to be imposed on anything relating to golf, since that is the only thing the overgrown oompa loompa seems to care about.
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Uh, I'm not sure that would actually have any real impact. Maybe little wooden golf tees would get more expensive, and possibly golf balks - but the best clubs are likely made domestically, and you know, we don't import golf courses...
Re: Just remember (Score:3)
All emergency powers laws should come with a footnote: Does not apply if you caused the emergency yourself.
Re: Just remember (Score:2)
Did you miss this part of the actual story you are responding to:
The announcement comes following a year-long investigation into China's chip imports into the United States, launched by the Biden administration and led by the U.S. Trade Representative.
A year-long investigation started under the Biden Administration...
Tariffs existed before Trump returned to office, as did trade disputes, I seem to recall tariffs on cheap Chinese solar panels and I suspect that high tariffs have (or will be) used to limit cheap Chinese EVs from flooding our country.
If China is trying to run US chipmakers out of business by subsidizing their chip manufacturers, tariffs are a reasonable response... even if you
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If China is trying to run US chipmakers out of business by subsidizing their chip manufacturers, tariffs are a reasonable response... even if you don't like the guy doing it.
Such responses are inherently myopic and self defeating. The US has 4.2% of the worlds population. If US is incapable of competing globally at the necessary economy of scale protectionism of local markets alone isn't going to do jack to save our industries when the rest of the world is buying Chinese.
The US after all heavily subsidizes agricultural and hydrocarbon industries. There is no reason the US can't fight fire with fire if an industry is strategically important.
What matters isn't actions or perso
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Republicans could have a vote today to take away this orange turds tariff powers. It's based on everything now being an "emergency".
While Trump can limit or block the importation of chips from China he doesn't have the power to impose tariffs on their import.
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https://www.justice.gov/epstei... [justice.gov]
June 2027? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:June 2027? (Score:4, Informative)
It's to manipulate the midterm elections. Tariffs aren't as popular as they hoped.
Re:June 2027? (Score:4, Insightful)
Trump suffers from dementia, so he doesn't even know what he decided on an hour or two earlier. Trump is also easily manipulated, so, just give him lavish praise, and he will do whatever you want.
Re: June 2027? (Score:2)
Having been in office less than 12 months, by definition anything implemented thus far by the current administration was done without 18 months notice.
I'm curious, from where did you pull this requirement/expectation? 18 months notice is a very, very long time...
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I'm curious, from where did you pull this requirement/expectation?
The slashdot article above writes about June 2027.
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18 months notice is a very, very long time.
Tell that to the boss. FTS:
The United States will take action against China's semiconductor industry, setting new tariffs on chips from China from June 23, 2027
That's where OP got the 18 months from.
Capitalism (Score:2)
Uncontrolled capitalism is what we want as long as its our uncontrolled capitalism.
Re: Billionaires don't like capitalism (Score:3)
And they will vote for Trump in 2028.
Only Democrats think Trump will run in 2028, it's actually quite funny how they think it will happen.
Briefly, explain to me how Trump gets on the 2028 ballot in all 50 states (or, if you prefer, just enough states to win the electoral college)? For example, will NY, CA, IL, MA, NJ, etc put him on the ballot? HOW?
The other thing Democrats believe is that Trump won't leave office in 2029, completely ignoring that Trump left office in 2021.
It's amazing the impossible/improbable things democrats believe and dis
Re: Billionaires don't like capitalism (Score:4, Informative)
Only Democrats think Trump will run in 2028, it's actually quite funny how they think it will happen.
According to this poll as of August of this year 42% of republicans (59% of democrats) think he will try to run again.
https://www.dataforprogress.or... [dataforprogress.org]
The other thing Democrats believe is that Trump won't leave office in 2029, completely ignoring that Trump left office in 2021.
It's amazing the impossible/improbable things democrats believe and discuss openly with a straight face...
Trump is nutcase who routinely spews and attempts to do "impossible/improbable" things. On what objective basis is anyone supposed to correctly predict what he will and won't do?
He after all incited an insurrection against the United States and promulgated a fake electors scheme to try and cheat in the same election he lost. The first thing he did after winning the 2024 election was to pardon every last one of the insurrectionist motherfuckers who injured 140 police officers with some losing eyes, suffering brain damage. Four of the offers present that day would later go on to commit suicide. A lady who was present was also shot and killed. The president would later referred to Jan 6 as "a day of love".
Trump even tried to end birthright citizenship enshrined in the 14th amendment to the constitution with an executive order.
The vast majority of the written and verbal statements Trump utters are either factually incorrect or incoherent nonsense.
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Good modus operandi is too declare a fake emergency. He'll find an excuse.
Uncontrolled (Score:3)
There might be a broader strategy here (Score:1)
Nachos approves (Score:2)
To clarify (Score:2)
Or are we talking about 'Giiina [youtube.com]?
Historians must be excited (Score:2)
Watching a country self-destruct in real time is a rare thing.
chips (Score:2)
I seem to recall that the diner near the MIT reactor offered a dish called "fission chips." Are those the ones being banned from China? That diner did serve them on china, of course.