MTV's Music-Only Channels Go Off the Air (rollingstone.com) 51
An anonymous reader shares a report: MTV shut down many of its last dedicated 24-hour music channels Dec. 31. The move, announced back in October, affected channels around the world, with the U.K. seeing five different MTV stations going dark. These include MTV Music, MTV 80s, MTV 90s, Club MTV, and MTV Live. As Consequence notes, MTV Music -- which launched in 2011 -- notably ended its run by airing the Buggles' "Video Killed the Radio Star," the first visual to air when MTV launched in the United States in 1981.
MTV's parent company, Paramount Skydance, is also expected to shutter music-only channels in Australia, Poland, France, and Brazil. Despite axing much of its dedicated music programming, MTV's flagship channels are still expected to keep broadcasting in the U.K. and elsewhere. Like in the U.S., these channels primarily air massively popular reality programs, as opposed to music videos.
MTV's parent company, Paramount Skydance, is also expected to shutter music-only channels in Australia, Poland, France, and Brazil. Despite axing much of its dedicated music programming, MTV's flagship channels are still expected to keep broadcasting in the U.K. and elsewhere. Like in the U.S., these channels primarily air massively popular reality programs, as opposed to music videos.
"Massively Popular" (Score:1)
MTV was better off playing music videos. The downfall started with Jenny McCarthy on that dumb show 'Singled Out'. Stopped watching it after that and never went back.
But to be fair, there doesn't appear to be a lot of interest in music videos anymore, otherwise, someone would air them.
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Money for nothing [youtube.com] intro where Sting sings is no longer working.
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Sting?!?!
You might wanna double-check that, bro!
Re:"Massively Popular" (Score:4, Informative)
Sting?!?!
You might wanna double-check that, bro!
i was right there with you... but then:
The song features a guest appearance by Sting, who sings the signature falsetto introduction, background vocals and a backing chorus of "I want my MTV" set to the same notes as the chorus of the Police's hit "Don't Stand So Close To Me"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
(and it does sound like him...)
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I guess I never realized that (and, hadn't read the Wiki).
That one is my mistake.
(and, I'm not exactly a young'un... 43)
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You're a young'un, aren't you?
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YouTube and social media kinda ate the entire music video market but bands are still making them.
If you go on some of those free steaming services like pluto.tv there are still music video channels, which is fun to check out now and again, particularly as they at least have genre and time period specific channels so it's a bit more focused.
Re: "Massively Popular" (Score:3)
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A real squandered opportunity, MTV used to be synonymous with popular music, it was probably the most powerful brand in the industry, they could make or break entire acts. There's a different world where MTV is playing the tole that Spotify is today, a Blockbuster sized downfall.
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+1 Insightful, it's incredible that MTV couldn't capitalize on the explosion of online media in some way.
Re: "Massively Popular" (Score:2)
Not that fast. Many artists are hostages of their labels, even those who own their music. Justin Hawkins from The Darkness fame has an YT channel, and the other day he was being interviewed and shared how often he receives copyright strikes when using his own music [youtube.com].
MTV dead with cable TV decline (Score:2)
The inflection point where music started going downhill was when digital recording was introduced into the studio.
It went from a recording and production process with a limited number of overdubbing due to the compounding of noise to one where you could do an infinite number of overdubs and sampling with only adding a tiny amount of noise.
The earlier analogue microphone to tape to record process meant that each person in the recording process had to be excellent at their job and produced better quality reco
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This is really only applicable to pop music though, there is and has been great music still being produced. Every decade of pop music has your breakout acts and then the me-too's that follow. Even back in the 50's and 60's a lot of tape and vinyl was wasted on shite.
Music like most arts abides by Sturgeon's law to some percent it's just that today with digital recording there's way more of it.
AI music will fill the role of music that you don't actually listen to but that's it, or at least, I do not unders
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Why would AI elevator music trained on elevator music be less annoying
Also good luck to the PBX maintainers to get AI tracks into your hold system, they gotta generate them and then upload files? defeats the purpose, hundreds of hours of royalty free tracks out there already
Re:"Massively Popular" (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah, for idiots and those with very low IQ.
Sadly, a HUGE demographic.
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But to be fair, there doesn't appear to be a lot of interest in music videos anymore, otherwise, someone would air them.
People go to Youtube for them now, since they have nearly all of them, and you can watch them in whichever order you like.
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This just points to how much MTV dropped the ball in regards to what was once their core business. The internet came about but they kept just plugging along with the old business model like the world wasn't changing around them. They didn't have to cede this part of their business to Youtube, they chose to by doing nothing to address changing consumer habits.
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This just points to how much MTV dropped the ball in regards to what was once their core business. The internet came about but they kept just plugging along with the old business model like the world wasn't changing around them. They didn't have to cede this part of their business to Youtube, they chose to by doing nothing to address changing consumer habits.
MTV dropped music videos and migrated to crappyvision (reality shows) many years before YouTube was founded - they started in the 90s and finished around 2000. No music, just cheap junk for idiots.
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Music Videos still seem to generate interest, but on YouTube.
That's a surprise (Score:2)
I honestly thought they changed to purely reality content decades ago. If these "actual Music TV" channels were still available where I live, they seem to have been hiding well. I would be sad, if I didn't hold my MTV lament some time around the turn of the millennium. Still, a belated toast from my teenage self for the after midnight version of Poison.
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Video killed the radio star, apparently (Score:1)
The typical demographic for MTV when it began is near retirement age now.
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Probably makes sense as they're mostly set in a music genre now and less likely to be ear-wormed
Re: Video killed the radio star, apparently (Score:1)
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"They don't play many videos anymore" - Butthead, (Score:4, Insightful)
"They don't play many videos anymore" - Butthead, 1993
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"Internet killed the video star"
W/ all due apologies to Buggles
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Indeed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
I've had this in mp3 for decades.
snake
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It seemed to me like, even in its early days, MTV devoted an inordinate amount of time to people talking.
Internet killed the video star? (Score:2)
Honestly, I didn't know MTV still had music-only channels.
Or even music channels, for that matter.
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Back when I was a teen in the early 80s we only looked forward to Friday Night Videos. My friends and I just didn't understand the appeal of watching music videos all the time on a dedicated channel. There was too much to do outside with friends. Cooped up in a house was not a thing back then.
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Re:Internet killed the video star? (Score:4, Insightful)
Correct. What may have been the final nail in the coffin on MTV showing music videos happened in 2012, when PSY's "Gangnam Style" was posted on YouTube and within a few months, it became a gigantic worldwide sensation without needing MTV. That very success using YouTube drove record companies to start posting home videos instead of waiting for MTV. Indeed, you wonder would Beyoncé would have done the "visual album" version of her acclaimed album _Lemonade_ if it weren't for it being able to be posted on YouTube.
Too much competition for attention (Score:4, Insightful)
I Remember getting a game boy so that I could play the games on it without having to fight for the TV.
I don't know how much longer it'll last since AI is basically taking all the electronics manufacturing for itself but at least for the last decade or two cheap televisions and cheap game consoles and cheap internet means that people have a lot of entertainment options besides music. So it's no surprise that MTV is struggling.
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The internet prices really shouldn't be going up as that provides a direct impediment to the other subscription services that everyone and their dog wants to force everyone else into. More money for ISPs means less money for subscriptions, because you need the internet connection to have the subscription work in the first place.
Modern game consoles are a lost cause at this point. They haven't fulfilled their original purpose of
MTV (Score:2)
Changed from Music Televison to Moronic Television.
The Dead Kennedys called it (Score:4, Insightful)
Hi, I'm your video DJ
I always talk like I'm wigged out on quaaludes
I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I go
My job is to help destroy
What's left of your imagination
By feeding you endless doses of sugar-coated mindless garbage
You've turned rock and roll rebellion into Pat Boone sedation
Making sure nothing's left to the imagination
MTV get off the
MTV get off the
MTV get off the air!
Expensive? (Score:1)
Was it expensive to send music videos 24/7? Did the revenue from advertising not cover the expenses? Couldn't/didn't they charge the record companies for rotation?
Intuitively I would have expected it to be extremely cheap to broadcast music videos while it also would make a reasonable revenue from commercials = profitable, but maybe my intuition is off?
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MTV had to pay to run the videos, as I understand it they also had to share ad revenue, and ad revenue was a challenge because audience attention span was measured in 3-5 minute increments rather than in half-hour or hour-long blocks of time. The economics were never favourable for them; the only reason they've hung around this long is because they had the right idea at the right time in the early 1980s with running music videos on cable television, and they pivoted out to reality TV a decade later.
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MTV had to pay to run the videos, as I understand it they also had to share ad revenue, and ad revenue was a challenge because audience attention span was measured in 3-5 minute increments rather than in half-hour or hour-long blocks of time. The economics were never favourable for them; the only reason they've hung around this long is because they had the right idea at the right time in the early 1980s with running music videos on cable television, and they pivoted out to reality TV a decade later.
That is not true. They didn't pay for most of the videos, and when they did pay, it was peanuts. https://www.forbes.com/2005/09... [forbes.com]
Re: Expensive? (Score:2)
So... (Score:2)
As long as we can keep Rage (Score:2)
As long as Rage keeps going. They get famous musicians in to play whatever they like. Tonight's DJ is Jocko Homo from Devo. One of my favorites was Mike Patton from Faith No More. So many great guests.
From looking at the current playlist [abc.net.au] isn;t as long as I expect, it generally plays music videos from 12:00 am to 7am without a single commercial, not that I can stay awake all night anymore to find out. lols Still great to just have on. Enjoy!
MTV is still alive ???? (Score:2)
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Some people still use AOL email....my brother.
Related, what's a "channel"?
it's amazing how long it takes for technologies and business models to die out. I was reminded yesterday that Netflix stopped shipping DVDs only three years ago.
But maybe I just live in a "everything is streaming" bubble. I know OTA TV and cable are still substantial businesses.