NASA Acknowledges Record Heat But Avoids Referencing Climate Change (france24.com) 75
An anonymous reader shares a report: Global temperatures soared in 2025, but a NASA statement published Wednesday alongside its latest benchmark annual report makes no reference to climate change, in line with President Donald Trump's push to deny the reality of planetary heating as a result of human activities.
That marks a sharp break from last year's communications, issued under the administration of Democrat Joe Biden, which stated plainly: "This global warming has been caused by human activities" and has led to intensifying "heat waves, wildfires, intense rainfall and coastal flooding."
Last year's materials also featured lengthy quotes from the then-NASA chief and a senior scientist and included graphics and a video. By contrast, this year's release only runs through a few key figures, and amounts to a handful of paragraphs. According to the US space agency, Earth's global surface temperature in 2025 was slightly warmer than in 2023 -- albeit within a margin of error -- making it effectively tied as the second-hottest year on record after 2024.
That marks a sharp break from last year's communications, issued under the administration of Democrat Joe Biden, which stated plainly: "This global warming has been caused by human activities" and has led to intensifying "heat waves, wildfires, intense rainfall and coastal flooding."
Last year's materials also featured lengthy quotes from the then-NASA chief and a senior scientist and included graphics and a video. By contrast, this year's release only runs through a few key figures, and amounts to a handful of paragraphs. According to the US space agency, Earth's global surface temperature in 2025 was slightly warmer than in 2023 -- albeit within a margin of error -- making it effectively tied as the second-hottest year on record after 2024.
What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:1, Troll)
Does Musk not care about Earth, or think he can escape it before it's too late ?
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Why doesn’t the world’s richest man step up?
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Step up to what? He's already building one of the most successful EV brands in the world. Basically changing the image of the vehicle from a glorified golf cart to a viable competitor for ICE. I think he's earned the right to tell everyone with their filthy little hands out to "F-k off."
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You forget the part where he turned his car into nazi-mobiles.
And how much money are you making from turning your tesla into a robot taxi ? What, you're not ?
Seriously, Musk is a very very rich unstable moron, that's it. He drank the nazi cool aid and loved it. Now he spend his time spreading stupid nazi shit using the network with most stupid rebranding in history, including future history, let's face it, great brand to X, you can't possibly top that, ok maybe rebranding to "shit-emoji"? Musk, I want royal
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Be serious. The Tesla car made electric cars viable. He deserves credit for that. Also for Space X reusable rockets. Possibly not for anything else, but he does deserve credit for those. I happen to think he went crazy about a decade ago, but even before then I wouldn't have wanted to work for him. He was sort of like Jobs, but without the pleasantness and, for me, without the charisma.
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I think the AGW proponents are mostly people who live where it's cold and are looking forward to having more than two months of summer. And fuck the rest of you. Also maybe people involved in global shipping.
People who are proponents for doing something about AGW vary from borderline insane dilettantes to serious scientists who have spent their lives studying the issue. Most of them are against geoengineering because it ranges from trivial through impractical to fucking insane.
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Which is why the geoengineering climate solutions are met with "Noooooo!"
That isn't why. They're met with "Noooooo" because they don't actually solve the problem; they merely try to paper over it by adding even more shit into the atmosphere in the hopes of counteracting the shit that's already there. Any alcoholic that's tried the "hair of the dog" technique can tell you, that approach is not going to end well.
A proper geoengineering technique would be one that removes the excess CO2 from the atmosphere at scale and puts it back underground, where it came from. The only probl
Re: What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:2)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=... [youtube.com]
Re:What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:5, Insightful)
He's not a denier but he's definitely not talking about it or acknowledging it and as the OP mentioned he's a prominent enabler of the current administration that denies it so you know, his personal opinion and business ventures on the matter is somewhat irrelevant. Not that he should enforce opinions on the platform but what do we think much of the user base on X thinks about climate change?
10 years ago I'd put Musk squarely in the helping camp, now, on the net, even with Tesla and all it does he's probably a net negative on the effort. if you believe it's a problem. 2012 Musk and 2026 Musk may as well be two different people.
Re:What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:5, Insightful)
He's the same guy who says we need to have more people.
Remind me again who is creating man made climate change.
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> He's the same guy who says we need to have more people.
He's not wrong.
The birthrate is plumenting.
https://data.worldbank.org/ind... [worldbank.org]
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Which is good. We have quite some time to see if that becomes a problem.
Unless that is, if you're a racist moron, convinced that white people are the only smart ones (look at the Dumbo in chief and tell me again you're a white supremacist with a straight face)
Re:What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:5, Insightful)
> He's not wrong. The birthrate is plumenting.
And is that a bad thing? How many people can this planet comfortably support without it all turning to shit? At our current population rates, we are burning more oil and spewing it in the air for others to breathe, faster than ever before. And that is just one example of many. People are living longer. Way longer than before. Why would we want billions of additional people piling on to the planet?
I do not know what the correct number of people this planet can currently support. At least with our current state of tech. But 8.3b seems to be more than it can handle. When the technology improves and we could live more sustainably, then perhaps it could support more.
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A good number would probably be twice the population of 1700, or possibly 1800. Say approximately 1,000 million people (i.e 1 billion). (But that's a wild guess.)
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Has nothing to do with tech.
Solar panels exist since 50 years.
It is the stupid endless war between east and west and soon asia.
If you want to have power full armies, you rely on fossile fuels for aircrafts and tanks and logistics ... and as soon as you rely on fossile fuels, you want to control the sources. Hence all the recent wars were over oil or gas areas or other resources.
The dramatic price crash in solar and battery technology at least frees many people on the planet from expensive electricity. If yo
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If Musk truly needed more babies, he'd make something that made more babies, made more pregnancies. His inaction reveals the true value of population growth. Billionaires across the world demonstrate an identical indifference.
The birth-rate is repeatedly described as a problem, but why? Why is lack of population growth a bad thing? Because people like Musk want to sell more stuff, want to raise prices: That means having more people to buy the stuff, to work longer hours to pay the higher price.
That
Re:What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:4, Insightful)
Do you really think Musk is a climate denier? He's the same guy who says we need to have more people. Remind me again who is creating man made climate change.
This is where the business mind of Musk clashes with the do-gooder appearances he used to try to keep up when he was pretending he was trying to save humanity. The business world desperately needs more humans to keep up the whole "everything must grow forever" thing that keeps the profit cycle churning. That's diametrically opposed to helping sustainability, which used to be something he prattled on about in between sci-fi sounding diatribes about making us multi-planetary in order to prevent the "all eggs in one basket" problem from killing us quickly. I don't know that that's been much of a priority for him once he got to play "gimme all your data" with the US government. I think his true end-goal may have been met, and now he's just gonna suck up as much as he can while his supported tool is in office.
Re:What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:4, Interesting)
I think it's rather simple as Musk is incredibly think skinned and also completely audience captured by the right wing audience he's surrounded by now.
I don't think he really even has a plan as much as he has a bunch of disconnected theories and ideas mixed with the fact he's purchased and built himself a literal reality distortion machine, god only knows what the man's "For You" page looks like, after enough time just getting information from that you'd end up acting rather strange also.
Oh yeah and top that off with a bit of an addiction to dissociative substances.
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Thing is it's not just business that needs an endlessly growing population. Back in the 60s a lot of decisions were made on the assumption that each generation would be bigger than the last, and wealthier, so they could pay for the retirement and healthcare of their parents.
The opposite happened. We went from about 15 working age people per pensioner in the 60s, to 4 today.
Fixing it without a lot of immigration is going to be very painful.
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Fixing it without a lot of immigration is going to be very painful.
It's only going to feel temporarily painful as it will require catching up for decades of investment into all the things we need to fix anyway; healthcare, infrastructure, transportation, housing affordability, wage growth, worker protections, child and elder care services. All things everyone needs and which promote a society where people want to have kids. Even when you bring in immigrants we're gonna want them to have kids and their kids to have kids...
I never hear much from the supposed pro-natal side
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Or we could give up the delusion that every generation needs to exist simply to take care of the previous generation. It's a bullshit game that locks kids into a plan they never signed up for, in a society that takes, takes, and takes some more our entire lives on the premise that we get something in return.
Social services for our tax contribution is not a sin. Fix things the right way now, rather than leaning into immigration to increase population to take care of elders, and it'll be taken care of for the
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The problem is that promises were made. People did what they were told was the right thing and expected to be looked after in retirement. Retirement at 65.
Of course they also buggered a lot of stuff up. The climate, the job market, the housing market, education... But we aren't really into collective punishment, especially when they were the biggest voting block.
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The problem is that promises were made. People did what they were told was the right thing and expected to be looked after in retirement. Retirement at 65.
Of course they also buggered a lot of stuff up. The climate, the job market, the housing market, education... But we aren't really into collective punishment, especially when they were the biggest voting block.
It wouldn't have to be collective punishment. It could just be collective dealing with things. And while there may be some pain, maybe we could pretend, just for a second or so, that we're a functional society and all those years of tax paying resulted in a safety net that could help us transition out of the concept of "every man must take care of himself and the government that he pays." I know, that's probably crazy talk to some, but it seems to work in other countries.
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Do you really think Musk is a climate denier? You should thank him every time you see a viable electric vehicle on the road.
Elon is a flip-flopper. He was a an advocate for addressing climate change during the early Tesla years. Then he flip-flopped to downplaying the urgency of climate change by advocating for doing essentially nothing, including saying things like, "It is possibly overstated in the short term, but we should be concerned about it long term." He has recently reverse X/Twitter actions to allow previously banned climate deniers to return.
I'm not sure if Elon is a climate denier, but he wants to be accepted in r
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Re:What does Musk say to Trump about this ? (Score:5, Informative)
From https://earthbound.report/2024... [earthbound.report]
Here's Elon Musk in 2006:
"The overarching purpose of Tesla Motors (and the reason I am funding the company) is to help expedite the move from a mine-and-burn hydrocarbon economy towards a solar electric economy, which I believe to be the primary, but not exclusive, sustainable solution."
And in 2024: ... I think we should just generally lean in the direction of sustainability."
"I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil and gas industry
In 2015:
"The goal is to exit the fossil fuel era as quickly as possible."
In 2024:
"If, I don't know, 50 to 100 years from now, we're mostly sustainable. I think that'll probably be okay. So it's not like the house is on fire immediately."
Here's Musk in 2015:
"If we wait, and if we delay the change, the best case is simply delaying that inevitable transition to sustainable energy. The worst case however, is more displacement and destruction than all the wars in history combined."
And in 2024:
"The risk is not as high as a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming. But I think if you just keep increasing the parts per million in the atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to breathe. People don't realize this. If you go past a thousand parts per million of CO2, you start getting headaches and nausea."
Yes, that's Elon Musk telling Donald Trump that the biggest issue with carbon emissions is that people get headaches if you get to a thousand ppm of CO2.
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Humanity is definitely in the 'stupid' phase of it's existence.
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Musk is a murderous sociopath. Someone needs to update the old Mexican beer commercial. Any AI animators in the house? Suggested script along these lines:
"I don't always starve two thousand people to death every day. Oh wait. On average I do."
"He's the most sociopathic man in the world."
Childhood trauma is no excuse for murder in my books. So does anyone know a good webhost for my list of five thousand books now that Tripod has finally died? Or can you recommend a good app for tracking books that you've rea
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Musk is a murderous sociopath. Someone needs to update the old Mexican beer commercial. Any AI animators in the house? Suggested script along these lines:
"I don't always starve two thousand people to death every day. Oh wait. On average I do."
"He's the most sociopathic man in the world."
Childhood trauma is no excuse for murder in my books. So does anyone know a good webhost for my list of five thousand books now that Tripod has finally died? Or can you recommend a good app for tracking books that you've read? Or a website version not owned by another sociopath? Maybe a spreadsheet version?
Goodreads used to be OK-ish, but has been hooking into more and more of the parts of the web that are working at destroying the entire publishing ecosphere so I'm iffy on whether they'd be a good way to go going forward.
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Goodreads was the specific website I was referring to in my reference to "another sociopath". Since 2012 or thereabouts.
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Goodreads is straight up owned by Amazon now, I only knew that since my wife stopped using it due to that so maybe it was recent? I think she moved to Storygraph
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Goodreads is straight up owned by Amazon now, I only knew that since my wife stopped using it due to that so maybe it was recent? I think she moved to Storygraph
I knew they had been starting to tie into Amazon's ecosystem, and that's when I stopped using them. Didn't know they were outright purchased. Bummer. Another usable add-on to the book world turns toxic.
Musk has been consitent about climate change. (Score:1)
Yes, that's Elon Musk telling Donald Trump that the biggest issue with carbon emissions is that people get headaches if you get to a thousand ppm of CO2.
Well, that is a pretty daunting problem if the atmospheres natural CO2 levels are objectively toxic for humans. We'd likely die out within a decade or two. I don't know how you can be more clear about us reaching 1000ppm of CO2.
As for man-made CO2: Musk has been consistent with his warnings. He says it's not doomsday yet, but there will be serious problems
Humans are the biggest cause of global warming (Score:2)
And especially countries who are not obligated to follow any "rules for the greater good".
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And especially countries who are not obligated to follow any "rules for the greater good".
So just about every [climateactiontracker.org] developed country [bbc.com] (depending on who you ask).
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China & India.
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per head of population basis, the USA is the worst polluter.
Not even close. [wikipedia.org] The US is number 16, with per-capita emissions less that 1/4 of the worst country. All the worse countries are smaller, which is why the US has higher total emissions. They aren't tiny though. Russia, Canada, Australia, and Saudi Arabia all have higher per-capita emissions.
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Re:Humans are the biggest cause of global warming (Score:5, Informative)
Sure, and things like water vapor, volcanoes,.... have nothing to do w/ it
Water vapor exits the atmosphere on a short time scale-- it's called "precipitation". It is accounted for in all the climate models.
Volcanoes emit CO2, but the amount is so small compared to the 50 billion of tons of CO2 emitted by humans burning fossil fuels that the effect on climate is nearly undetectable. https://www.climate.gov/news-f... [climate.gov]
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What makes you think they don't publish methods?
You're a man of science so I'll get you started.
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gis... [nasa.gov]
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.... [wiley.com]
https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov... [nasa.gov]
Method details are published (Score:2)
Huh? All of the groups tracking global climate publish their methods in exhaustive details, with detailed discussion about precision and accuracy, and listing where the data comes from. Have you ever actually looked? No, didn't think so.
Since we're discussing NASA here, try looking at the Goddard Institute for Space Studies page [nasa.gov] and drilling down to Earth Observations/Temperature. But you could look at any of the other four major climate groups and find equivalent discussion of methods.
(But: better do it f
You think Earth is warming up fast? (Score:1)
Things could be much worse [reddit.com].
Newspeak. (Score:3)
"Yes, we're seeing a trend of global weather patterns altering for worse outcomes.
Definitely not climate change tho."
One tip-off for a cult is that they use their own language.
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The good thing is that it seems to be the same language used in the Voynich Manuscript, so hopefully they will be able to decipher it. The problem is, we won't be able to understand them when they do.
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Voynich Manuscript is deciphered since quite a while.
It is an american indigenous language, but I forgot from which area.
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Ummmm, no. It has never been deciphered. It is definitely not any language indigenous to any part of the Americas. It predates Columbus by almsot a century, the materials are European, the drawings do not match any architecture or plantlife in any known part of the world. If you want to claim otherwise, feel free to provide a link.
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You are out of the loop.
It got deciphered more than 30 years ago.
And all the plants depicted in it are indeed meso and south american plant life.
feel free to provide a link.
:P
Google is your friend. I doubt my google fu is better than yours
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Botanists Arthur Tucker and Rexford Talbert suggested that some plant drawings resemble species from the Libellus de Medicinalibus Indorum Herbis (a 1552 Aztec herbal) and argued for a post-Columbian New World origin. This idea is not widely accepted and is considered speculative because identifying plant drawings is highly subjective. Any large set of fanciful drawings will often produce coincidental resemblances to real plants. Critics point out that almost all proposed Nahuatl transcriptions and correspo
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I would suggest to contact the group who translated it, and tell them they made a big mistake.
Good luck :P
However I see why you might be confused, someone reverted the Wikipedia article again.
Sorry, I did not keep track about the guys who translated it. Not super important to me.
Fact is: the script is "invented", likely by a European priest. The language is a south american language, plants and the few animals are all middle and south american. In other words: the indians there did not have that script. The
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Except it isn't. No serious scholar accepts those claims - the text doesn't fit, the plants don't fit, the animals don't fit. The guys who "translated" it are frauds. As, indeed, are you for asserting that they do without any evidence to back up your claims. You are a fraud, you know you are a fraud, and I wish you would apologise and admit to that.
In further statements (Score:2)
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I'm a thicc earther.
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Let's check the credibility of that organization (Science, Public Health Policy & the Law):
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com... [mediabiasfactcheck.com]
2025 was not a record year (Score:1)
From the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/artic... [bbc.com]
"Global temperatures in 2025 did not quite reach the heights of 2024, thanks to the cooling influence of the natural La Niña weather pattern in the Pacific, new data from the European Copernicus climate service and the Met Office shows."
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> I remember back in the 70's they said because of all the pollution, we were headed to another ice age.
Who are "they"? Two dudes? yawn
> It's called a CYCLE. It's been going on for thousands of years.
Rarely had it change as fast as it has. Usually mega-volcanos or meteors were involved in comparable rapidity.
And that's in a La Nina year (Score:4, Interesting)
To realize just how insane this is, consider that we had weak La Nina conditions for much of 2025. That means it should have been a slightly cooler than average year. And it was the second hottest year ever recorded.
That tells you just how quickly the climate is changing. 2023 had a strong El Nino. A cooler than average year today is as warm as a hotter than average year two years ago, and much hotter than an average year was three years ago.
Emperor Trump's Clothes Are Just Fine (Score:2)
making it effectively tied as the second-hottest (Score:1)
So... it's been warmer before last year... got it