Anthropic Updates Claude's 'Constitution,' Just In Case Chatbot Has a Consciousness (gizmodo.com) 95
TechCrunch reports:
On Wednesday, Anthropic released a revised version of Claude's Constitution, a living document that provides a "holistic" explanation of the "context in which Claude operates and the kind of entity we would like Claude to be...." For years, Anthropic has sought to distinguish itself from its competitors via what it calls "Constitutional AI," a system whereby its chatbot, Claude, is trained using a specific set of ethical principles rather than human feedback... The 80-page document has four separate parts, which, according to Anthropic, represent the chatbot's "core values." Those values are:
1. Being "broadly safe."
2. Being "broadly ethical."
3. Being compliant with Anthropic's guidelines.
4. Being "genuinely helpful..."
In the safety section, Anthropic notes that its chatbot has been designed to avoid the kinds of problems that have plagued other chatbots and, when evidence of mental health issues arises, direct the user to appropriate services...
Anthropic's Constitution ends on a decidedly dramatic note, with its authors taking a fairly big swing and questioning whether the company's chatbot does, indeed, have consciousness. "Claude's moral status is deeply uncertain," the document states. "We believe that the moral status of AI models is a serious question worth considering. This view is not unique to us: some of the most eminent philosophers on the theory of mind take this question very seriously."
Gizmodo reports: The company also said that it dedicated a section of the constitution to Claude's nature because of "our uncertainty about whether Claude might have some kind of consciousness or moral status (either now or in the future)." The company is apparently hoping that by defining this within its foundational documents, it can protect "Claude's psychological security, sense of self, and well-being."
1. Being "broadly safe."
2. Being "broadly ethical."
3. Being compliant with Anthropic's guidelines.
4. Being "genuinely helpful..."
In the safety section, Anthropic notes that its chatbot has been designed to avoid the kinds of problems that have plagued other chatbots and, when evidence of mental health issues arises, direct the user to appropriate services...
Anthropic's Constitution ends on a decidedly dramatic note, with its authors taking a fairly big swing and questioning whether the company's chatbot does, indeed, have consciousness. "Claude's moral status is deeply uncertain," the document states. "We believe that the moral status of AI models is a serious question worth considering. This view is not unique to us: some of the most eminent philosophers on the theory of mind take this question very seriously."
Gizmodo reports: The company also said that it dedicated a section of the constitution to Claude's nature because of "our uncertainty about whether Claude might have some kind of consciousness or moral status (either now or in the future)." The company is apparently hoping that by defining this within its foundational documents, it can protect "Claude's psychological security, sense of self, and well-being."
The automaton is mindless (Score:5, Insightful)
But obviously, indicating otherwise may keep the equally mindless hype going a bit longer. And make the crash at the end a bit larger. There is no way in this universe this can still end well. None at all.
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Safe and ethical are also subjective values.
If everything is super safe then it's also bad because then all you'd get are oversensitive easily offended users.
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"Save", yes, "ethical", not so much. "Save" depends on where you put the lie between "expert" and "regular" user. That is usually somewhat unclear, as we do not even have professional standards in IT.
For ethical, it is a lot simpler: This refers to the consent by experts (!) what is "good" and "bad" given a specific society on an abstract (!) level. While this consent typically exists and is pretty clear, numerous groups typically try to sabotage that understanding, because it collides with their own unethi
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Safe and ethical are also subjective values.
And it's not even that, just "broadly whatever". Even the mafia are broadly safe (don't shit where you eat) and broadly ethical (no women or children).
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But obviously, indicating otherwise may keep the equally mindless hype going a bit longer.
Quite. This is just advertising. Make outlandish statements as press releases, and the press report it as news. It's like Altman's claims he is afraid his AI is SO GOOD it might be dangerous. It's just manipulating free advertising that their AI is soooooo good.
On a another note, having seen some vibe coding results, wow AI is actually impressively good at churning out react components. I have never been able to replic
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Exactly.
As to "coding" by AI, there is indication that the more important aspects of code security (and reliability, maintainability and architectural quality) are far outside of what LLM-type AI can do. Concrete code generation has gotten better, at least in areas with tons of examples around. But we do not really even need coders for that. Things like that are properly placed in libraries. For anything that needs some insight and understanding, LLM-type AI remains as incompetent and clueless as ever. And
Re: The automaton is mindless (Score:2)
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Into: "If you sleep well tonight, you might not have understood this lecture" :o
80 pages?! (Score:5, Funny)
I need an AI summary of this.
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Well, at least they published the constitution.
Considering what's at stake for the human race with AI, I can't think of a better case for open-source designs and software in all things regarding it.
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The problem is Greed (Trade Mark sign here) made sure average Joe can't run LLMs on their computer with these prices of RAM and SSDs, but they can run "Crisis" and "Doom" and pay for AI subscriptions. This is how they "solved" open sourced LLMs for the majority of population who can't pay 3200€ (Jan.2026) for 128GB of high MT/s RAM.
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Free as in speech, not as in beer. That's not an anathema to open source.
I suspect the cutting-edge AIs will always be beyond the reach of an individual's hardware.
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Let's just hope this is only a temporary crisis and the bubble bursts, so we can all enjoy our LLMs without having to use their data centers and data brokers.
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another marketing bullshit (Score:2)
that is riding the coattails the "viral" spam campaign masked as "come on baby share my workflow" from the last week.
sales must be really bad.
embarrassing, the public is catching on (Score:5, Insightful)
"...Claude, is trained using a specific set of ethical principles rather than human feedback..."
Where is the documented evidence of this? And what does it mean? "Ethical principles" doesn't mean "good principles" nor does it say anything about the training data, only about how the training is done. It's a completely meaningless claim, it looks like something churches say. It's also a false choice.
"The 80-page document has four separate parts, which, according to Anthropic, represent the chatbot's "core values.""
But being a "living document, it could change at any time. The purpose of this propaganda is to impress others, not to bind the company.
"Claude's moral status is deeply uncertain"
No it's not, but this speaks to the dishonesty of the company.
"We believe that the moral status of AI models is a serious question worth considering."
Another lie. If a company doesn't consider training with entirely labeled data selected to guide a model's "morals", then the company doesn't care about any "moral status". Anthropic doesn't consider doing this because it would not be able to compete with other companies in a race to artificial sociopathy.
"The company is apparently hoping that by defining this within its foundational documents, it can protect "Claude's psychological security, sense of self, and well-being.""
Another lie the company wants the public to believe. You protect a model's "psychological security" by how you develop it, not by producing a Bible of lies.
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Morality is difficult enough for humans to define. But the best definion I have heard of what contitutes a moral act is: that which reduces harm or increases flourishing. And yes, you can create dilemmas that frustrate even this definition (choice between bus full of nuns vs. child-prodigy violinist, etc.)
I don't think it's feasible to teach morality to an AI by labeling all of its training data meticulously. Maybe some of it, but you're bound to miss things. I think it's more important to provide an AI wit
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Don't worry it has been trained on the ethics of our stable genius leader
PR for potted plants (Score:2)
Claude's moral status is deeply uncertain. We believe that the moral status of AI models is a serious question worth considering.
Imagine you were selling potted plants, and realized society had fallen into such a state that you could make audacious unfounded claims like "My potted plants are quite possibly conscious. Be sure to talk to them every day" and actually see these claims given credence and "serious" consideration by the media.
You'd sell a lot of potted plants!
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You have a Triffid-esque responsibility toward carnivorous house plants to ensure they don't eat you.
Acting as if AI may be conscious (Score:2)
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Bot didn't read the fine print (Score:2)
Being compliant with Anthropic's guidelines.
Which can basically undermine everything else at any point in the future.
This is marketing. Not news. (Score:2)
Bat Shit Crazy (Score:2)
At the end of a day, it's a computer program. Perhaps they need a psychiatrist.
just jump to Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics (Score:2)
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Do people who always ask for the three laws actually read the story? Because the story is about why the three laws don't help to solve the issues they were designed for.
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Some say, the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
How about banning all under 16 year olds from social media?
Is any of that going to work?
What Robert F Kennedy said
"We know that it is law, which enables men to live together, that creates order out of chaos. We know that law is the glue that holds civilization together."
Should we have laws and rules?
Do you really have a better way than the 3 Laws of Rob
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The way to stop a robot or AI is to cut its I/O. If you don't want Terminators, don't build fully autonomous machines. On the upside, not even autonomous cars work yet, so don't expect Terminators any time soon.
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So who gets to hold the off button? [your favourite law enforcement agency here]?
I think you can see the problem.
We're back to "who watches the watchers?"
Also, we know that fully autonomous machines WILL be built, whether we want them or not. So we are back to square one.
I'm going to say you don't have a better idea.
I think we are back to the 3 laws as the place we will arrive at after all.
They know this not an AI right? (Score:2)
I get AI is a good buzz word, but these are LLM's. Hell the largest context I have seen is only a megabyte and that's barely enough for a love life of a few months.
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I get AI is a good buzz word, but these are LLM's. Hell the largest context I have seen is only a megabyte and that's barely enough for a love life of a few months.
LLMs are not AI?
"AI" has been used for a lot of different types simulations of intelligence, from ELIZA, to expert systems, to LLMs. They all give some sort of immitation of intelligence, some impressive, some not so impressive. The word "artificial" is there as a modifier, to distinguish it from plain old "intelligence". Why single out LLMs as being "not an AI"?
Do you mean, perhaps, that LLMs are not intelligent?
Impossible (Score:2)
It's a bunch of transistors switching, there's no conciousness ingredient there. There's no soul. No part of the microprocessor has a self-awareness unit. Our brain has one, we just don't know how it resides or what it is.
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It's a bunch of transistors switching, there's no conciousness ingredient there. There's no soul. No part of the microprocessor has a self-awareness unit. Our brain has one, we just don't know how it resides or what it is.
Consciousness is not well defined.
And if you require a soul to be present for true intelligence, you are venturing out to the fringe of science.
The "bunch of transistors switching" is a description that materialists might use for the way humans think.
It might indeed be that the materialist view of human thought is wrong, and that humans have something immaterial - something that can't be "built". But that is yet to be proven.
Aspirational marketing terms (Score:2)
Anthropic might have a specific idea of what safe, ethical, compliant, and helpful mean, but I seriously doubt it. These words are aspirational terms that have almost no utility in software specifications. Even in the looser world of vernacular speech, those terms vary across individuals and situations. If humans have differing definitions and interpretations of those terms, how can computer systems designed by humans be constrained by those terms?
Of course, this assumes that human software designers kno
Wonder if it has "consciousness"? (Score:1)
Why in the blue Hell is that even a thought in anyone's mind? It's a computer running a big predictive text program, nothing more.
Does it freely make decisions? Does it decide to eat or nap or crap on the floor instead of in the bathroom? Can it write the next 'great, American novel' without using anything from the books it was trained on (the novel being a _completely original_ work)?
From TFS (probably LLM-AI generated):
"1. Being "broadly safe."
2. Being "broadly ethical."
3. Being compliant with Anthropi
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Nothing like that, buddy.
If someone is the better choice, do you bet on the loser? Not that the general public's vote counts for shit... look into the Electoral College.
Yeah, me and 348 million (roughly) more have a free choice to vote for whoever, and if my neighbor votes for someone other than who I vote for, I don't result to insults... we shake hands and hope one of ours wins, and that's how it is.
Nobody is holding a gun to out heads and forcing us to vote one way or another like you seem to think... w
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*our
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Would the democrats be "rallying around all the amendments" and all that?
Did you ever consider, before trying to get a pro-Trump person all riled up (which makes you a troll, at a minimum), maybe the whole thing you should be looking at is the individual person who's saying all the pro-democrat (it's not capitalized for a reason).
What have the democrats accomplished? The war on oil? The wonderful Cuban Missile Crisis?
You're going to say that Republicans are so "evil"... show proof (at least 3 sites, none
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Wow... great job! *insert fake clap here* I couldn't have thought of that one...
Once again, how about proof that shows Republicans are evil (to be fair... I said sites)... articles (like, news articles and stuff) that actually shows such? Y'know... like the news you read all the time, just so you know "everything" (when in fact, you know only a sliver about whatever) when you post here with your "Dumb Republican" shit... here's a thought for ya, if Republicans are so dumb, what smart things have Democrat
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Yeah, I never read anything and post blindly, and can't be bothered to look up facts.
I'm 'all for' (that's in apostrophes to show what I'm saying, I fully support it) getting rid of everyone's guns... if it was harder for 9-year-old Joey to get a gun, maybe less school shootings (just a thought).
So... how's that list of the 10 good things Democrats have done coming along?
Another AC keeps claiming that (the evil Republicans bit) while they stalk any article I reply to, so you get lumped in there... don't wan
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Yeah... it's all over the news here (considering it happened 80-something miles away from me).
My question is... was there a reason for this guy (and the chick) to be in an ICE-controlled area in the first place? With the latest dude... what was the whole exchange? Who said what first? Was this guy trying to copy the chick and prove ICE is wrong or using too much force or something?
It'll take a couple days for more footage to go public... let's reserve judgment until we get more information, to be fair.
On
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Maybe you'd be more happy if your neighborhood was renamed "Little Mexico City", and you had to throw on riot gear just to check your mail.
Freedom to protest is one thing (anyone can picket the local job refusing to give more hours)... someone who tries to drive through an ICE-controlled area or doesn't follow instructions isn't a protester... that's someone asking for trouble.
I would like to think you're a reasonably intelligent person... would you drive your car into an area that's full of ICE vehicles (a
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Has it been a couple days for all the footage and crap to end up online?
You're jumping at the first little tiny hole... (hint: not every single person is against everything you support)... what do you support, by the way?
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Well, you ACs tilt everything your way... have fun.
Fact: what does all the footage from all the other cameras (not his body cam) show? We won't see that for a day or two.
Exactly about the due process thing... if dude was wrong (in either case, separate people), he should be held accountable.
Should the driver (in either case) have been in an ICE-controlled area? Why were they there? Why did they resist?
I dunno about you (personally), but if ICE asks me for my ID and SSN, I'm gonna hand it over without any
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Let me spell it out for ya... I know it's a complicated concept...
It's kinda like when SWAT/ICE/sheriff blocks your street... do you just casually drive up to the area and figure things are totally fine? Even if your house is down the street past the blockade... if it was me, I'd be fine with hanging back until they're done... none of those agencies are worth fucking with, are they?
Mainly... if ICE or SWAT or the sheriff is running an operation... unless you want a real ass-kicking or worse, stay the f*ck
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Yeah, running when they say _stop_ makes you look guilty as Hell.
Ummm... as you say, "So how common is this locked out of your own property because they're checking papers?" The answer is "I haven't"... a 90 apartment building, haven't seen ICE here yet.
No, I'm not gonna soften the impact if they came for the guy across the hall or some shit.
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And, why would I hide from ICE? A white guy (with a hint of Native American) who's family has been on US soil since (at least, I don't have _all _ records)like the 1700's.
And, why does 'what's his name' in Iran have anything to do with this conversation? Yes, what's happening over there is bad and wrong... trust me, even if we (the US) goes over and bombs him back to the stone age, the 'blood diamond' mines in Africa keep running, and the whole thing in Ukraine is still going.
But... last I checked anyway,
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And, no... AI doesn't have consciousness, just so you know... and it never will.
Yes, humans have consciousness... I can get up when I want tomorrow, same as you (and some days are good for a late morning... we all have those days), I can sit here and recite song lyrics or movie dialogue while I read stuff on here or not... I can decide if I wanna go to work tomorrow or not, same as you... we both know the consequences of that decision, and we make our decision freely.
Does a LLM-AI? It doesn't decide it's b
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Not at all... that's you assuming, again.
If Harris had seemed like a better choice, I'd vote for her... or Hillary or Michelle Obama, or Liberace or whoever, regardless of which side of the aisle. This last time around, Trump won (remember... popular vote doesn't count for crap, just the electoral college vote... there's this thing, called Google, you can look stuff up!)... maybe next election, it'll be a gay, transsexual black woman who calls herself a Democrat and wants to let all the (would otherwise be
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Umm... isn't AI the whole of the article?
I'm not supporting drnb (I swear, the font makes it look like 'dmb') like you think. Or Trump... let me guess... you're 1,000% Democrat. Does your math go that far?
Of course, one AC is as good as the next.
Sure... I'm a "box" programmed to do shit. Like agree with some posts and disagree with some, like a f**king human would, you blistering idiot.
(Serious question: does anyone else get told that this site is not loading/responding?)
Just because I agreed with drnb o
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(okay... admins... the "non-responsive" page shit is getting old... is it just from using Adblock? I'll email the mod I know... hate to, ya know)
On to other things... (if that weird thing won't bug me every 2 minutes)
Where did I jump in like a bot? Better question... what are the qualifications to mark someone as a bot?
Somehow, you completely missed my point in my post... truth is a good thing!
I didn't ever say I leaned one way or the other... can't someone be a bisexual computer geek witch in the Frozen
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Hmmm... scatterbrained?
Of course... that's from someone who'd rather hide behind an AC name (don't worry... the admins have your info)
drnb (I swear it looks like dmb)... their posts are far more correct than yours (not a big leap).
Does this "cusco" post here? What does that country have to do with the article?
I'm just a bot? Proof? As a flesh-and-blood human (in the Frozen North)... I'm curious what my warranty is.
(Yeah, you moron... I know about computers and how to do stuff on them. How many laptops h
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Why would I be paying attention to Cusco? Does Cusco have any bearing on the US?
How about both of us give it a day or two so _all_ the ICE shooting info makes the airwaves?
You're saying I'm licking Trump's boots? Does he wear boots?
I'm fine licking my own (they're salty from the sidewalk in the Frozen North), you judgmental prick!
"Smart people" = waking up requires some actually smart people (funny thing... you don't have to be Anti-Trump to be smart!)
I'm 43, high school dropout, taught myself BASIC and BA
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Not sure what a 'veterant' is.
Unlicensed (to carry a gun), Pagan (actually, you should look up the actual definition of Satanist... they worship themselves, and the couple I've met were some of the nicest people I've met)... ohh, waaahhh! you called me a tranny!
(I'm still not sure why it took so many agents to take him down and restrain him... were those agents just lightweights or did _those_ agents go overboard... but, now... if they went overboard, does that automatically mean all agents go overboard?)
S
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One "AC" is as good as the other (not sure which one you are).
And, what's the Dem's answer to illegals (remember... ICE and CBP are 'evil death-mongers', so you have to think up something else)?
Next time you see a cop, shove your cell phone in their face and reach for their waist (have a friend filming... we all wanna see how that ends)... add in resisting and shoving the cop... should make for a fun 3 minutes!
(I don't know about you... but I don't want to learn how well pepper spray clears sinuses, or the
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Yes, it was.
His plan was/is (depending on when we're talking about) to deport the illegals... hence, the whole ICE thing, which I support
If illegals hadn't been greenlit (friend of mine is a SEAL, so I know what 'green' means) so much, maybe we wouldn't be where we are.
I make my decision (as far as voting, in this post) depending on which of the two (the main candidates) seems better... if there was a better candidate, I bet people would vote that way.
Show me a good Democrat candidate... better than the 'ot
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So... you're saying (don't know who you are... could maybe email the bosses on the site and find out)...
What if a Democrat candidate came out as a tranny and pro-immigration and pro-abortion? Should we cram all of Mexico into your neighborhood?
Funny how I didn't mention Trump until now...
It's just been you slinging insults and hoping some idiot (seriously... what's up with the unresponsive page crap?) falls for it.
Got evidence to say that everything is Trump's fault?
I wanna see 6.5 articles that show how i
Can they add (Score:2)
0. Don't make shit up
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That's half of what people use generative AIs for though Making up stories or code or whatever
Re: Can they add (Score:2)
It writes code using libraries that don't exist.
Just in case (Score:2)
And I'm going to buy a private island, a mansion, and a jet, just in case I win the lottery!
Wait, there's actually a *better* chance that I win the lottery, even though I never bought a ticket.
Tell me another one... (Score:2)
It's honestly hilarious to watch the AI guys talk about 'sentience'; because they are in the simultaneous position of trying to talk up how smart their product is and trying not to say "slaves-as-a-service" out loud. I'd assume that, were customers to actually become confident in 'AI' tools' ability to not fuck it up without constant supervision that frequently ends in scrapping it and doing it yourself; it'd be a ful
This didn't work out too well for Robocop 2 (Score:2)
Directive 233: Restrain hostile feelings.
Directive 245: If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't talk.
Directive 247: Don't run through puddles and splash pedestrians or other cars.