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The Bill Gates-Epstein Bombshell - and What Most People Get Wrong (yahoo.com) 170

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The Daily Beast:

"Salacious claims from Jeffrey Epstein that Bill Gates contracted an STD following 'sex with Russian girls,' and colluded with the disgraced financier on a plot to secretly slip his wife antibiotics, were revealed in the latest Epstein files release."

The New York Times. (Alternate URL)

"A representative of the Gates Foundation said, 'These claims — from a proven, disgruntled liar — are absolutely absurd and completely false. The only thing these documents demonstrate is Epstein's frustration that he did not have an ongoing relationship with Gates and the lengths he would go to entrap and defame.'"

And Yahoo News points out the error of social media posts about the news: None paid attention to who actually wrote the email. The email was from Epstein — to Epstein... Both the "From" and "To" fields list Epstein's personal Gmail address. The message appears to be a draft, written during a period when Epstein's relationship with Gates had deteriorated. In it, Epstein alleges that Gates asked him to delete messages related to an STD. But the document does not show Gates making that request, nor does it provide independent confirmation that any of the claims are true.

It reads like Epstein venting. It is not Gates confessing.
"In a 2021 interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Gates called his relationship with the disgraced financier 'a huge mistake'," notes the New York Times. "He also sought to downplay his interactions with Epstein, saying he had several dinners with Epstein, with the hope of getting him to generate donations to the Gates Foundation."
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The Bill Gates-Epstein Bombshell - and What Most People Get Wrong

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  • Follow the money (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ndsurvivor ( 891239 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:41AM (#65960874) Journal
    I don't understand why we can't have transparency on how Epstein made his money, and how it was spent. There must be a money trail. Seems like the odds are good that he got a hundred thousand here, another hundred thousand there, and that the people giving him that money most likely paid for unsavory services. That would drill down to the truth quickly.

    • Re: Follow the money (Score:2, Insightful)

      by liqu1d ( 4349325 )
      Because the way he got his money would expose the creeps. That's why it's all a massive secret. Should bring back hanging for a bit...
    • By definition, the way he made his money wasn't transparent. So it will be hard to investigate and provide that transparency.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by ndsurvivor ( 891239 )
        People have their panties in a bunch because someone comes from Mexico during the harvest season to pick crops, but they don't seem to care about this. To stay on-topic, it seems like if records show Gates didn't give Epstein any $$$, it should be case closed on this accusation.

        • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

          by ewibble ( 1655195 )

          Honestly I don't care, I think if most men where offered to go to an Island with a lot of sexy women they that would have sex with them they would.

          I doubt people there where exchanging IDs, Its not like these where 12 year olds, they where 17 and in many places in the west where its perfectly legal to have sex with a 16 year old.

          The most likely scenario here is that Epstien invited rich powerful men to have sex with these girls in order to gain leverage over them.

          from wikipedia regarding Prince Andrew:

          On 30 December 2014, a Florida court filing by lawyers Bradley J. Edwards and Paul G. Cassell alleged that Andrew was one of several prominent figures to have participated in sexual activities with a minor later identified as Virginia Giuffre,[8] who was allegedly trafficked for sex by Epstein.[9] Giuffre (then known by her maiden name Virginia Roberts) asserted that she was raped by Andrew on three occasions, including a trip to London in 2001 when she was 17,[10] and later in New York and on Little Saint James, U.S. Virgin Islands.[11] She alleged Epstein paid her $15,000 to have sex with Andrew in London.[10] Flight logs show Andrew and Giuffre were in the places she alleges the sex happened.

          Note

          • Honestly I don't care, I think if most men where offered to go to an Island with a lot of sexy women they that would have sex with them they would.

            So you're gonna totally ignore the part about the girls being initially tricked to get control over them and then coerced into prostitution?

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by XXongo ( 3986865 )

          To stay on-topic, it seems like if records show Gates didn't give Epstein any $$$, it should be case closed on this accusation.

          The accusations are that various men had sex with underage women, which is rape. It is rape whether they paid or not.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by jhoegl ( 638955 )
        That is 100% disingenuous bullshit

        They track even bitcoin now.

        JPMorgan flagged $1B in Epstein-linked transactions to Trump [msn.com]
        So who are you working for?

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by XXongo ( 3986865 )

        I don't understand why we can't have transparency on how Epstein made his money, and how it was spent.

        By definition, the way he made his money wasn't transparent. So it will be hard to investigate and provide that transparency.

        As far as I know there isn't any mystery about how Epstein made his money. He was a finance guy. He was in fact a pretty shady finance guy, but that's not the thing that people are upset about.

        There must be a money trail. Seems like the odds are good that he got a hundred thousand here, another hundred thousand there, and that the people giving him that money most likely paid for unsavory services.

        He wasn't charging money.

    • Epstein made his money in the financial sector. The evil was about influence not cash.

    • Because you have a ruling class (Score:5, Insightful)

      by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:55AM (#65960910)
      You're not going to get Justice against the ruling class. It's just how that works. You don't spill the blood of Kings.

      The hard part with being American is that our ruling class figured out a while ago that taking the formal mantle of ruling class paints a nice big Target on them. So instead they called themselves billionaires or CEOs or philanthropists or whatever and a large percentage of the population ignores the fact that there are people who are above the law.

      About the only thing we are going to get out of the Epstein files is some of the worst of the legislation that the ruling class would have rammed through in this first two years is going to get hamstrung by it and by the committee hearings wasting time.

      Nobody is ever going to get brought to Justice because the people involved are above the law and a large percentage of the population is uncomfortable with changing that.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by ukoda ( 537183 )
        Interesting you compare US elites against monarchs. The better monarchs today don't really rule, they oversee the population. They like to see their subjects do well, provided it doesn't infringe on their lifestyle. By contrast much of the US elites, and trump in particular, seem to actively enjoy asserting control over the population and care little about their well being. They do share the benefit of being above the law, but only the monarchs will admit that.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          Interesting you compare US elites against monarchs. The better monarchs today don't really rule, they oversee the population. They like to see their subjects do well, provided it doesn't infringe on their lifestyle. By contrast much of the US elites, and trump in particular, seem to actively enjoy asserting control over the population and care little about their well being. They do share the benefit of being above the law, but only the monarchs will admit that.

          Monarchs of present are like that because they

        • There are no good monarchs. Only neutered ones and bad ones.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

      Because it involves Israel. And saying anything remotely bad about Israel gets someone labeled as an anti semite. Israel funds this guy to entrap people so Israel can pull strings. Israel gives tens of millions of dollars to US politicians and in return they get the largest foreign funding.

    • Seems like the odds are good that he got a hundred thousand here, another hundred thousand there, and that the people giving him that money most likely paid for unsavory services.

      IANAL, but is the bar for burden of proof so low? I give you money, you do something later that is "unsavory" and so I'm implicated?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by haruchai ( 17472 )

      "I don't understand why we can't have transparency on how Epstein made his money"
      Because it involves being an Israeli agent

    • He most likely made his money as a foreign agent gathering blackmail material on world leaders and prominent figures. Otherwise it would be really obvious where it all came from by now.

    • Re: Follow the money (Score:2, Insightful)

      by kenh ( 9056 )

      So you are really thinking that Epstein did little more than run a very high-end whore house?

      You know he made his money managing other people's money, right? I mean, that has been the claim all along. He treated the girls as disposable play things, using/abusing them, giving them to friends and guests that came to visit him... there really is no evidence that I've seen that Epstein was a pimp in any traditional way. I guess you think somewhere in the warehouse of documents they've seized there is a price li

    • He got his money from the Israeli government because this whole Epstien thing is clearly a sexual blackmail operation
    • His business model was kompromat of important people to keep up his proclivities for deflowering 13-yo triplets.

      Laws don't apply to important/rich people the way they do to homeless Jimmy sleeping by the side of the 7-Eleven who gets 30 years in prison for half a blunt.

  • Sounds like a lie to me (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:48AM (#65960892) Homepage

    Finding a non-sent email in someone's draft folder, addressed to the author is not evidence.

    I went into this story fully expecting to hate Bill Gates. Instead I find I agree with his statement. This looks like slander by a dead pedophile, not reality.

    • Maybe. But just in case, I now wear rubber gloves while using Windows...

    • Re:Sounds like a lie to me (Score:4, Interesting)

      by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @12:21PM (#65960946)

      Why would someone craft an email like that and save it to drafts?

      • Why would Mr. Vaccine talk to a pedo about his health issues? He didn't really know the guy that well and I can't think of guys who'd discuss such things even with their friends unless they were long term close friends. Plus Gates is a very long time rich man, most his life he has had suck ups and con people after his money. How could he possibly be so naive? Especially when he was a ruthless business man.

        Since Trump Buddy stole, blackmailed, and did insider trading to get his billions plus he worked with

      • Re:Sounds like a lie to me (Score:5, Interesting)

        by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @04:13PM (#65961368)

        Why would someone craft an email like that and save it to drafts?

        Remember David Petraeus, and how he and his mistress shared a Gmail account where they'd send messages to each other by saving them as unsent drafts?

        It appears that, at least for a while, some people were using this method as their own secret cloud storage service for stuff they didn't want discovered.

        • Or just a habit of how to keep things that you want all in one place. I email myself reminders, and have only been gradually transitioning to being more disciplined about using things like Google's task list or putting even very rough drafts in Google docs or Overleaf. The Petraeus thing was interesting because by keeping it in a draft it deliberately evaded things, and also was interesting because of where Petraeus got it from; it was a technique used by Al-Quaeda.
    • What's the point of writing an email from yourself to yourself?

      If you actually hit send, it will have all the necessary email headers appended to it, with timestamps as a sort of verifiable evidence that you indeed sent the email at the given date/time.

      If you just leave it in the draft folder, it can be modified at any time.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Probably left in for misdirection. The Rapist in Chief does everything he can for that.

  • This slow release... (Score:5, Informative)

    by bradley13 ( 1118935 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:52AM (#65960900) Homepage

    ...with lots of redactions? Makes it pretty clear that people are being protected.

    Let's be real: the entertainment offered by Epstein was sex with girls and young women. It is overwhelmingly likely that every regular male visitor was enjoying that entertainment.

    The files must be released, but somehow the pimping and prostitution angles are missing. Strange...why would that be?

    • Re: This slow release... (Score:5, Informative)

      by liqu1d ( 4349325 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:56AM (#65960912)
      You say that but they've already released documents clearly painting trump in his true colours which were swiftly removed then redacted and added back. They aren't protecting anyone at least not competently.

      • Re: This slow release... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @12:18PM (#65960940)

        Authoritarianism by its very nature means you have to hire based on loyalty, not merit or skill. Incompetence is baked in.

        • Incompetence isn’t baked in to authoritarianism - it’s left entirely up to chance. So, the posse of an authoritarian figure is gonna be a distribution that largely reflects the human population aka a bunch of average joes, some smart ones, and some really dumb ones.

          For example, Stephen Miller is a monster, but there’s no denying his competence.

          • I would absolutely say the opposite, that Miller is quite incompetent and it's only via the fact he has access to such levers of power that he able to do what he does. I mean the handling on Minnesota and the Good/Pretti shootings is wildly incompetent, like there's a way to sweep those things under the rug and they are very bad at it.

              Trump is underwater on opinion even on immigration enforcement, his should be most popular issue. That doesn't happen under competence.

          • Incompetence isn’t baked in to authoritarianism - it’s left entirely up to chance.

            Chance, yes, but there are two factors you're failing to consider.

            The first is that competent people generally don't want to work for narcissistic authoritarians, both because it sucks and because they know their own value and want to be hired for that, rather than because they're good at being sycophantic.

            The second is that competent people are rare. If you're choosing at random, the odds are extremely high that you'll get an incompetent one. This is exacerbated by the first factor, since competent p

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by gweihir ( 88907 )

          Authoritarianism by its very nature means you have to hire based on loyalty, not merit or skill. Incompetence is baked in.

          Very true. That is why these regimes never do well.

          • Lol. These $X never do well is a fairy tale.

            These regimes do plenty well for themselves as long as they exist. And they're likely to exist long enough that it won't matter to anyone who complains today about it.

            The regimes fall when enough people get off their asses and fight back at huge personal cost. Right now there's no inkling of that in the relevant parts of the world. Most people just let it happen and hope that other people will do the dirty work for them.

      • You say that but they've already released documents clearly painting trump in his true colours which were swiftly removed then redacted and added back. They aren't protecting anyone at least not competently.

        Doesn't that make you question what is actually in the redacted areas even more so then? I think they are feeding breadcrumbs and leading people on to cover up a far deeper conspiracy.

      • The president's pedophilic associations were already well-known. You can't protect a reputation you don't have.

        The redactions are to protect other names that you and I haven't heard.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by gweihir ( 88907 )

        They try to protect especially Trump and they are lying about that. But, at the same time, the people Trump put into power are all extremely incompetent. My guess would be somebody intentionally lets things be done half-assed and lets things slip through. We are still seeing only a small part of things. And these are utterly damning. I guess the US republican party loves power over anything else, with honor, decency and integrity not being on the list at all. Makes them fake-conservatives. Any group of dece

    • You all keep yammering about Trump, maybe because he's the easy target. There are many others who also need to be in the spotlight. Gates and Clinton, for example, but also lots more.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by caseih ( 160668 )

      It's very interesting that supporters of this administration have been saying loudly for nearly 10 years that the epstein files indict prominent Democrats including the Clintons. Because democrats are all pedophiles. You'd think they'd be champing at the bit to get even highly selective evidence of that out there. But they continue to resist doing even that, which is quite telling about the guilt of one man in particular.

      As for Gates, Clinton, and every other rich and powerful person to have associated

    • > the entertainment offered

      If this was the "entertainment" what was the business whilst they were there?

  • The ex-wife (Score:5, Informative)

    by RitchCraft ( 6454710 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:53AM (#65960906)

    Gates' ex-wife knows the truth.

  • Who cares about Gates (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:56AM (#65960914)

    I care about the guy running the country.

  • Why should I care that Bill Gates got the clap, or whatever, from a Russian prostitute.

    If... IF it is true, that's an issue for Bill and his sexual partners. None of it matters to anyone else in any way.

    As for the "bombshell"... Epstein knew? They discussed Bill's predicament? Why the fuck does anyone care?

    • ... so long as the girl was above the age of consent and wasn't being coerced or threatened then nothing illegal happened. Sordid maybe, but not illegal.

      • Pretty sure giving drugs (yes, antibiotics are drugs) to someone without their consent is illegal. Whether the story is credible is another question.

  • But I have to admit that I can only wish I could see a joke on the sordid topic.

  • There's a Windows Defender joke here somewhere...
  • It seems like after meeting Epstein, Gates embraced him. And then extended him. And finally extinguished him. It's not what people get wrong, it's what people have gotten wrong for 25 years. Philanthropist? You fell for it!

  • 1. Who benefits? Intelligence agencies. Namely, CIA and Mossad.
    2. How do they benefit? Video evidence of powerful and influential figures schtupping eastern European women and underage girls.
    3. Why do they benefit? The leverage they have over the above figures is incredible and sickeningly valuable.

    4. So...who are the real criminals that need prosecution? See who benefits in item 1. They orchestrated, financed, and perpetuated it. US Attorney Acosta cut Epstein the sweetheart deal because "he belonged to in

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