A Century of Hair Samples Proves Leaded Gas Ban Worked (arstechnica.com) 61
Scientists at the University of Utah have analyzed nearly a century's worth of human hair samples and found that lead concentrations dropped 100-fold after the EPA began cracking down on leaded gasoline and other lead-based products in the 1970s.
The findings, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, drew on hair collected from Utah residents -- some preserved in family scrapbooks going back generations. Lead levels peaked between 1916 and 1969 at around 100 parts per million, fell to 10 ppm by 1990, and dropped below 1 ppm by 2024. The decline largely tracks the phase-out of leaded gasoline after President Nixon established the EPA in 1970; before the agency acted, most gasolines contained about 2 grams of lead per gallon, releasing nearly 2 pounds of lead per person into the environment each year.
The study arrives amid the Trump administration's broader push to scale back the EPA. Lead regulations have not yet been targeted, but the authors note concerns about loosened enforcement of the 2024 Lead and Copper rule on replacing old lead pipes.
The findings, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, drew on hair collected from Utah residents -- some preserved in family scrapbooks going back generations. Lead levels peaked between 1916 and 1969 at around 100 parts per million, fell to 10 ppm by 1990, and dropped below 1 ppm by 2024. The decline largely tracks the phase-out of leaded gasoline after President Nixon established the EPA in 1970; before the agency acted, most gasolines contained about 2 grams of lead per gallon, releasing nearly 2 pounds of lead per person into the environment each year.
The study arrives amid the Trump administration's broader push to scale back the EPA. Lead regulations have not yet been targeted, but the authors note concerns about loosened enforcement of the 2024 Lead and Copper rule on replacing old lead pipes.
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No. First they have been using "low lead" gas since the 1970s which is a partial "fix." Second something like 90% of aircraft can run on unleaded gas now. Third the amount of lead poisoning is not stupendously high (typical lead levels in kids is about 1-2 ug/dL and studies from this decade show that living within half a mile of an airport raises blood lead by about 0.2 ug/dL). Fourth leaded avgas is being banned as of January 1, 2031. Whether the ban is a hard ban or not depends on the state, e.g. in Calif
Re:tough luck for people living near small airport (Score:5, Informative)
More information here https://www.epa.gov/newsreleas... [epa.gov] and here https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/l... [faa.gov]
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No. First they have been using "low lead" gas since the 1970s which is a partial "fix." Second something like 90% of aircraft can run on unleaded gas now. Third the amount of lead poisoning is not stupendously high (typical lead levels in kids is about 1-2 ug/dL and studies from this decade show that living within half a mile of an airport raises blood lead by about 0.2 ug/dL). Fourth leaded avgas is being banned as of January 1, 2031. Whether the ban is a hard ban or not depends on the state, e.g. in California it is a hard ban.
Anyway those people near small airports got to buy affordable housing because of the lead poisoning which kept property values affordable. Obviously I support the ban but what you said is not true and the people who chose to live near an airport did so with the knowledge they would be buying affordable homes in exchange for the tradeoff.
Yeah, I don't want my kids to have elevated blood lead levels, even .2 higher. K, thanks.
Yeah, I don't think most home buyers or renters are even vaguely aware of there still being leaded gas in small planes or that being within half a mile of a small plane airport will raise their blood lead levels.
https://www.govinfo.gov/conten... [govinfo.gov]
Re:tough luck for people living near small airport (Score:5, Insightful)
> the people who chose to live near an airport did so with the knowledge they would be buying affordable homes in exchange for the tradeoff.
I doubt most people in that situation expect or even know about higher lead contamination.
Re:tough luck for people living near small airport (Score:5, Informative)
You kind of missed the point.
We're not talking about lead poisoning, we're talking about the effects of long term lead exposure. In places that used leaded gas, the IQ of the general populace went down 7 points. The only thing worse is living next to a lead smelter. If you visited the city the smelter was in in the 80's, everything was dead. There was no vegetation for a mile around the smelter site itself. During the 90's they changed something with the smokestacks (adding a few feet to the height) and that helped somewhat.
But the children and teenagers that went to school in that city all had a noticeable IQ loss.
cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/trail-bc-lead-testing-blood-children-1.7626719
> Teck said in an email to CBC News it is trying to reduce emissions; aside from its involvement in THEP, the company installed a KIVCET smelter in 1997, which it says led to a 99.5 per cent reduction in emissions. It also has a program to reduce lead dust in the air, which since 2012, has seen an 80 per cent reduction in annual ambient lead levels, Teck said.
> "Down to the lowest measurable levels, we see harms in children, including IQ deficits, increased risk of ADHD-type behaviours. When we think about pregnant women, we can also see, with very small increases in blood lead, an increased risk of pre-term birth."
Re: tough luck for people living near small airpor (Score:1, Troll)
In places that used leaded gas, the IQ of the general populace went down 7 points.
And 20 years later you get an upsurge in extreme right wing politics.
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No it's the people who were exposed to lead as children that are now making selfish decisions.
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Think about the timeline. Think about who is under 50 and who is over 50. Think about what you are implying and how the effects you have assumed should have played out and should play out now.
I'll help. Peak lead exposure was 1912-1969, then it fell sharply. The number of politically active people who were exposed to lead is then in decline and has been for decades. If your theory was right, would you see more or less "extreme right-wing politics" now? How d
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I have seen the data. There is an exactly corresponding line. I'll try to find it.
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If you're saying that "right wing extremism" is almost gone now because we removed lead 50 years ago, then I misunderstood. If you're saying it's on the rise, it must not be due to lead exposure.
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Well no it's not almost gone now, because a lot of those people affected their kids.
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I can't educate you on how older generations pass down information to younger ones.
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People don't have to go the extreme. Empathetic is possible without being self destructive.
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Re: tough luck for people living near small airpor (Score:3)
They probably didn't know about lead emission from avgas, and even the neurological effects of lead they're unlikely to know very well. Lower land prices near airports, to the degree that's a thing, are probably more about noise.
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I wonder why people are bad at risk assessment and at judging scale?
Sesame Street used to have monsters do big/small and near/far. I would have thought we could have grasped these concepts in early childhood, but I keep running into people who also suck me into a pointless debate when they don't get it.
Re: tough luck for people living near small airpor (Score:1)
"suck me into a pointless debate"
Is there anything not pointless?
Re: tough luck for people living near small airpo (Score:2)
Trying to score points with nihilist? I don't think they care. ;-)
Re: tough luck for people living near small airpor (Score:2)
Which is why there is pressure to close them. For example, this one about 5 miles away from home, currently scheduled to close in 2031.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid%E2%80%93Hillview_Airport
Generational Diffs (Score:1)
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Betcha MAGAs have higher lead levels.
Re: Generational Diffs (Score:2)
Let's get the CDC and NIH on it. Oh wait we can't. They were strangled.
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no, don’t talk about this! (Score:2, Insightful)
jfc! don’t give trump any ideas of rolling this back!!!!!!!!!!
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5-digit UIDs get to do what they want.
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As long as they don't make the rest of us look bad.
Unlikely to get lead back in gasoline (Score:4, Informative)
Look, tetraethyl lead was a "cheap" way to get gasoline-fueled engines to run higher compression without pre-detonation (knocking) damaging the engine. The development of electronic fuel injection in the 1970's and 1980's pretty much eliminated the knocking problem by electronically adjusting the timing of spark plug ignition via knock sensors and a small computer, which meant modern gasoline-fueled engines for street-legal vehicles rarely suffer from this issue. Besides, modern refining technology makes it possible for gasoline RON octane ratings as high as 99 (circa 95 pump octane) in unleaded fuel, pretty much eliminating the need for tetraethyl lead.
Re:Unlikely to get lead back in gasoline (Score:4, Interesting)
Wrong assessment on the supply side. Refineries have always been capable of producing fuel to suit any RON requirement (just look at avgas). The question was how expensive it is to do so. TEL still remains the cheapest (albeit banned) way of increasing an octane rating, and thus improving margins. It's not the supply side of the equation that makes lead undesirable, the supply side simply adapted to market regulations, and fuel injection doesn't solve the knocking issue completely, it just allows engines to be performance managed. Sports cars still require high octane fuel for this reason despite using fuel injection.
That said you still won't get lead into petrol. No one is going to invest a single dollar in the temporary insanity that is the Trump presidency. Re-introducing TEL is not the kind of project that would have a sub 3 year pay back period (which any response to the Orange Retard's policies would need to justify).
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Indeed for that reason. It's also exempt because of volumes and location of emissions. No one cares if you blast lead into air over the oceans. The same is said for sulfur content. What refineries do is extract the sulfur from diesel and put it... into aviation fuel where the requirements are listed in percent instead of parts per million.
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Except aviation gasoline still uses tetraethyl lead so gasoline-fueled aviation engines can run at much higher compression than automobile engines. Getting rid of tetraethyl lead in aviation gasoline has been a very contentious issue in recent years because many engines on General Aviation airplanes may not be able to properly run even with 99 RON unleaded gasoline.
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The development of electronic fuel injection in the 1970's and 1980's pretty much eliminated the knocking problem by electronically adjusting the timing of spark plug ignition via knock sensors and a small computer
No. Most vehicles didn't get knock sensors until the mid 1990s and you still had to set timing, they typically still had a distributor before then. For example my Nissan 240SX had a distributor with a 360 mark optical position sensor in it. You did the timing 100% the old fashioned way, by loosening the distributor bolts and turning it, and there was no knock sensor. It basically just had the electronic version of vacuum advance.
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The development of electronic fuel injection in the 1970's and 1980's pretty much eliminated the knocking problem by electronically adjusting the timing of spark plug ignition....
Knock occurs because of physics. You can tinker with spark timing all you want, but if you compress an air-fuel mixture you can get knock. Perhaps you were thinking of fuel injection? (i.e., don't add fuel to the cylinder until the proper moment.)
But modern gasoline still has a variety of anti-knock agents in it - MTBE and ethanol being the main ones in the US today - and all gasoline engines rely on it being there. MTBE and ethanol have their own issues, but far, far fewer than lead.
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When the air-gasoline mixture burns normally, the flame front proceeds at a certain rate, and there is no knock. With high enough temperature and pressure, a shock wave is produced and the flame front is on that shock wave: knock. It's the difference between fire and explosion.
Delaying (retarding) the spark allows ignition to occur later than the compression-caused peak temperature and pressure, potentially preventing or reducing the shock wave. That's the physics.
Granted, Diesel engines have no spark plugs
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Incorrect.
You can't have lead in gas nowadays because of several reasons. First, catalytic converters being mandatory - leaded gas poisons the catalyst and stops it from working. It's why cars started requiring unleaded gas - they equipped themselves with catalytic converters and they are required to use unleaded only.
Second, gas has octane boosters. Unleaded gas from the 80s to the 2000s used various others. These days, the most universal one is ... ethanol. Octane is an anti-knock additive, ethanol being
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It's why cars started requiring unleaded gas - they equipped themselves with catalytic converters and they are required to use unleaded only.
Please, please have a source for this. Preferably a video NOT from the Transformers series.
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The wikipedia page on catalytic converters gives an approximate timeline, and states that lead "poisons" catalytic converters. For many years in the U.S. gas pump nozzles for unleaded gas were (still are?) smaller than leaded gas nozzles, and the car gasoline inlets were sized accordingly. A leaded gasoline pump nozzle couldn't be inserted into a car meant to take only unleaded gas.
The push for unleaded gas was partly due to environmental pressures on lead emissions and partly due to the requirements of cat
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It's why cars started requiring unleaded gas - they equipped themselves with catalytic converters
An interesting Cosmos episode about this.. (Score:3)
WTF does this have to do with it? (Score:1, Insightful)
Subtile bias alert - Orenge man bad, he is going to put lead in the water next... JFC - you retards need to get a grip. The propganda is not working any more. Trump is an ass-clown, just like biden, obama, clinton, and bush. WAKE THE FUCK UP. You are being played...
Re:WTF does this have to do with it? (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes, motherfucker, orange man is bad. That doesn't even touch on the child raping, or creeping fascism, among other things.
Re:WTF does this have to do with it? (Score:4, Informative)
That asshole is suing his own, our own, IRS for $10 Billion. He won't get all that but he may get a payout. And who is going to defend the IRS? We have no Justice Department. The sycophants running the joint are not going to put up a fight. That is the alleged president trying steal $10 Billion from the gov. itself. I suppose that cuts out the middle men he's been using so far.
Re: WTF does this have to do with it? (Score:2)
Things that weren't possible before Trump are now possible, especially his second term. You only have to check the news once or twice in the past year to see that.
Not a damn thing. (Score:2, Insightful)
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What does a study about lead content in people have to do with Trumps policies that specifically scale back the regulatory power of the agency responsible for reducing lead content in people?
Is that the question you are asking? Did you huff a bit too much lead in your youth?
Republicans are working hard to lift the ban (Score:1)
Burying the lead (Score:1)
It's a liberal plot to destroy the beauty of.. (Score:2)
I wonder what had the largest impact (Score:2)
The article mentions leaded gasoline, lead paint, and lead plumbing. We've phased out or are phasing out all three.
I wonder which one had the largest impact? I have my assumptions but honestly, have no idea of the magnitudes of each. I do know that modern latex paints kinda suck compared to oil based leaded paints from a finish perspective so I'd like to know what we get for the reduced quality.
I don't see any particular advantage to lead versus copper, iron, or PEX plumbing. Maybe there was a cost differen
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The solder for copper pipes used to contain lead, as did the brass fittings. It's not just about a 'lead pipe'.
Good points. My question still stands: anyone know how much did removing lead from plumbing solder reduce typical lead exposure, relative to removing leaded gas and paint?
(Yes, I know, now that AC mentions it, that we no longer use lead in electronic devices. I'd forgotten that. I wonder where that fits in?)
Graph against crime rates (Score:2)
This might provide additional evidence for/against the thesis of the famous Rolling Stone article ("Criminal Element") by the late, great Kevin Drum, connecting crime to lead.
All that Drum had was the decline in crime after lead was removed; thing was, the lead levels and crime rates showed correlations down to state, county, and neighbourhood stats.
If we could also correlate with lead levels right in the residents, it would support the thesis, which still strikes many as too simplistic, crime being complic