FBI Couldn't Get Into Reporter's iPhone Because It Had Lockdown Mode Enabled (404media.co) 130
The FBI has been unable to access a Washington Post reporter's seized iPhone because it was in Lockdown Mode, a sometimes overlooked feature that makes iPhones broadly more secure, according to recently filed court records. 404Media: The court record shows what devices and data the FBI was able to ultimately access, and which devices it could not, after raiding the home of the reporter, Hannah Natanson, in January as part of an investigation into leaks of classified information. It also provides rare insight into the apparent effectiveness of Lockdown Mode, or at least how effective it might be before the FBI may try other techniques to access the device.
"Because the iPhone was in Lockdown mode, CART could not extract that device," the court record reads, referring to the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team, a unit focused on performing forensic analyses of seized devices. The document is written by the government, and is opposing the return of Natanson's devices.
The FBI raided Natanson's home as part of its investigation into government contractor Aurelio Perez-Lugones, who is charged with, among other things, retention of national defense information. The government believes Perez-Lugones was a source of Natanson's, and provided her with various pieces of classified information. While executing a search warrant for his mobile phone, investigators reviewed Signal messages between Pere-Lugones and the reporter, the Department of Justice previously said.
"Because the iPhone was in Lockdown mode, CART could not extract that device," the court record reads, referring to the FBI's Computer Analysis Response Team, a unit focused on performing forensic analyses of seized devices. The document is written by the government, and is opposing the return of Natanson's devices.
The FBI raided Natanson's home as part of its investigation into government contractor Aurelio Perez-Lugones, who is charged with, among other things, retention of national defense information. The government believes Perez-Lugones was a source of Natanson's, and provided her with various pieces of classified information. While executing a search warrant for his mobile phone, investigators reviewed Signal messages between Pere-Lugones and the reporter, the Department of Justice previously said.
Good Apple ad. (Score:1)
Bad Apple Ad (Score:1)
Why shouldn't the phone be secure by default
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Because it would be unusable. Lockdown mode is pretty severe [apple.com], it's not something you want to deal with day to day.
I am reading through the list in your link and I don't get it - what part of this is supposed to be "unusable"?
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Despite what you claim you clearly didn't read the link the GP posted. It's a massive list of stuff that's disabled that people would find an iDevice barely useful without.
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Despite what you claim you clearly didn't read the link the GP posted. It's a massive list of stuff that's disabled that people would find an iDevice barely useful without.
It's not a "massive list" and the things mentioned are barely an inconvinience (oh noes, Photos drops location details and Facetime doesnt work unless you had contact within 30 days, oh noes). The biggest would be restrictions on the web browser and you can have per-site exclusions.
So what the fuck are you talking about?
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He's just not being clear. By "people would find an iDevice barely useful without" he really means "Please, don't use lockdown mode. It makes you harder to oppress. Privacy is treason."
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Ugh! u get facetime spam?
I'm counting myself as lucky on that one so far.
Re:Bad Apple Ad (Score:5, Informative)
From the link:
How Lockdown Mode protects your device
When Lockdown Mode is enabled, some apps and features will function differently, including:
Messages: most message attachment types are blocked, other than certain images, video and audio. Some features, such as links and link previews, will be unavailable.
Web browsing: certain complex web technologies are blocked, which may cause some websites to load more slowly or not operate correctly. In addition, web fonts may not be displayed, and images may be replaced with a missing image icon.
FaceTime: incoming FaceTime calls will be blocked unless you have previously called that person or contact within the past 30 days. Features such as SharePlay and Live Photos are unavailable.
Apple services: incoming invitations for Apple services, such as invitations to manage a home in the Home app, will be blocked unless you have previously invited that person. Focus and any related status will not work as expected. Game Center is also disabled.
Photos: when you share photos, location information will be excluded. Shared albums are removed from the Photos app, and new Shared Album invitations are blocked. You can still view these shared albums on other devices that haven’t enabled Lockdown Mode.
Device connections: to connect your iPhone or iPad to an accessory or another computer, the device needs to be unlocked. To connect your Mac laptop with Apple silicon to an accessory, your Mac needs to be unlocked and you need to provide explicit approval.
Wireless connectivity: your device won’t automatically join non-secure Wi-Fi networks and will disconnect from a non-secure Wi-Fi network when you turn on Lockdown Mode. 2G and 3G mobile support is turned off for iPhone and iPad.
Configuration profiles: configuration profiles can’t be installed, and the device can’t be enrolled in Mobile Device Management or device supervision while in Lockdown Mode.
Phone calls and plain text messages continue to work while Lockdown Mode is turned on, although incoming calls won’t ring on a paired Apple Watch. Emergency features, such as SOS emergency calls, will not be affected.
Re:Bad Apple Ad (Score:4, Insightful)
They just need to make each one of those a toggle. I'd turn quite a few of those on.
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They just need to make each one of those a toggle. I'd turn quite a few of those on.
Whatever you toggle becomes the weakest link, potentially even cumulatively. ...not that I disagree with you.
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I'm not even thinking about security.
I don't want random FaceTime, so I'd turn that on. I don't want location data in shared photos (or really to even accidentally share photos). I'm fine with not getting invitations for apple services, I don't want those. I don't use configuration profiles, so I'd like to remove the risk I accidentally add one. I don't want link previews in iMessage
Just quality of life things.
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Agreed. Though I'm not sure I'd enable any of them. Would be nice to selectively loosen the restriction on complex web apps when needed/wanted without having to disable lockdown mode and all the other protections. If I had an Apple Watch, I'd probably want it allow it to ring. Otherwise, all those settings sounds like they should be the sane defaults it ships with, rather than lockdown-specific restrictions.
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I've been using Lockdown mode since it has came out. Yes, one can't just click on links sent to you via text, and it can be a PITA to browse some websites, especially those with brain-dead anti-adblocker stuff that considers Lockdown Mode an adblocker. However, overall, it works well enough, and the security benefits are worth it, IMHO.
I just wish websites would understand that many Apple users use it. I use it across all my Apple devices, just as protection from zero click attacks.
Re: Bad Apple Ad (Score:3)
Presumably to avoid users accidentally bricking their phone due to a security snafu.
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Comments (Score:2, Insightful)
The comments here should be interesting. What’s the venn diagram of the pro encryption group and the “these boots are so tasty when the stand on liberals” group look like? I suspect the boots so tasty crowd remains silent.
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However, reasonable people a) would agree that going after journalists to uncover confidential source is not good for free speech regardless of the context, b) would agree that right against self-incrimination should not disappear just because it is "on a computer" or "on a phone".
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Bezos lost $100M on the WaPo "experiment", and he's covered similar losses for the previous several years. It's a pity all those fired 'journalists' failed to produce a product people wanted to pay to read (subscriptions were down 25% from a year ago).
Their issue isn't that they lost their WaPo jobs, it's that their industry is shrinking, and they'll likely never find another journalism job - time to "Learn to Code"...
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you, yes YOU, have supported the most divisive figure in american political history since the civil war and gonna sit here and pretend like you care about it now? fuck all the way off please
that aside im curious, do you prefer to ingest the boot toe or heel first? what type of wine pairing do you like?
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All those things had zero effect on your life. What improved?
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I hear, "ME! ME! ME!" You're screaming for a reading of, "First they came for". You even state that trump is targetting free speech domestically, but not targeted at you so you're OK with it. That's not how rights work. Look up at the boot over your head.
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"I don't like a lot of what Trump is doing internationally and domestically, especially on free speech, but these are not currently targeted at me"
That's maggots in a nutshell, too stupid to understand that it's only a matter of time before it does affect them.
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Wow. Have you taken your Paranoid Personality Disorder [wikipedia.org] medication recently? I count not three, not four, but five paranoid hallucinations [wikipedia.org]:
a) That there was "uncontrolled illegal immigration";
b) That there's something called "trans ideology" that tries to "mutilate and sterilize" kids;
c) That these shadowy figures are after your kids, specifically;
d) That they're trying to "criminalize" religions;
e) And that they're going after your religion, specifically.
Whew! It must be hard to live under such intense fant
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PS: Ops! Seven, not five!
f) That the former president was trying to implement government censorship;
g) And that he was trying to censor you, specifically.
My, oh, my!
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f) That the former president was trying to implement government censorship;
Hallucination?
The Biden Administration literally created a "Disinformation Board", have you really forgotten it already?
Link: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/02... [cnn.com]
Who can forget her song? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/vi... [dailymail.co.uk]
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Let me get this straight: you googled for "disinformation board", copied the first two links that appeared in the search results, and pasted them, without having actually opened them and read them, right? Because, yeah, I just wasted about 15 minutes of my time reading two fluff pieces showing a grand total of exactly zero censorship, which is likely five times more time than you spent sending those useless googled results. The second of which, for the record, having been a link to a video from within an ar
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> However, reasonable people a) would agree that going after journalists to uncover confidential source is not good for free speech regardless of the context, b) would agree that right against self-incrimination should not disappear just because it is "on a computer" or "on a phone"
I must have missed the massive protests from Republicans about this then if the first part of your comment is correct. You ARE claiming Republicans do share the views you attribute to "reasonable people", correct?
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Links? I can't find a single case of any of these people even bringing this up.
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You are probably a committed partisan, that no level of evidence would convince that Conservatives are patriots who want what is best of the fellow citizens.
There is zero evidence that the Societal Norms of "Empathy" or "Humanity" apply to anyone in DHS and about 1/2 of Congress. . .
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And what about when they're dragging away American citizens? What about when they're throwing women to the ground and shooting LTL rounds at members of the press?
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Are you implying that American citizens do not exist?
With the constitution in tatters, you might be right about that...
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At the same time suicidal empathy is a thing. I think currently we have too much empathy and not enough cost vs. benefit analysis going on the societal scale. To put it bluntly - maybe sit out protesting ICE when they are deporting murderers and pedophiles?
That's really what you think they're doing?
ICE ran out of those in the first 20 days.
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Are you implying that American citizens do not exist?
With the constitution in tatters, you might be right about that...
Trump is working hard on that one!
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And what about when they're dragging away American citizens?
Who? Name names.
PS: Detaining someone to ascertain their citizenship status isn't 'dragging away American citizens' - it just isn't.
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Here are some names:
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You listen to them a lot?
That explains what is wrong with you.
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I agree there are patriotic Conservatives who want what they think is best for their fellow citizens, but most are in hiding until MAGA is gone. What's left are the grifters and suckups who lie to stays in
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To make it explicitly clear. I am not aware of anybody on the right that thinks criminal illegals should be protected from deportation or sympathetic with organized protesters that attempt to disrupt federal authorities conducting lawful deportations. We are, however, concerned about protecting our rights to peacefully protest and also concerned about our rights to bear arms. We also concerned about lack of leadership at ICE, where up to very recently there was no realization that this situation caused a serious and avoidable crisis. Personally, I'd rather see sanctuary cities lose all federal funding and have complete pull-back of federal law enforcement - let them have all the illegal immigrants they want - than have these confrontations.
Finally read the rest of the poem, didja?
Then get thee to the correct side, rather than the "Right" side, of History!
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Probably nothing i can do to break you from your cult...
Sanctuary cities like mine are just WISE ... well, you probably are ignorant because you listen to propagandists who have been caught knowingly lying their asses off to sucker you rubes. You don't learn from when they get caught which isn't that difficult to discover.
It would be some kind of divine justice that you get assaulted and lay bleeding out while people just run away from you because they can't get involved. They may not even risk calling 911
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I won't expose my sources! But I'm sure you can find some rather open speaking strategists. I knew about the Afgan war before Cheney became president. He had the plans in his think tank and published online. nobody reads that stuff and they know it. I'm surprised anybody even caught on to project 2025; in the past that stuff never was reported on. Also, never brazen enough to put it all into 1 book.
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IT IS NOT protecting illegal immigrants. talk about spin...
It is simply NOT the job of local police to handle immigration. We have SWAT teams. They don't give traffic tickets. not their job. We need more social workers and far less cops handling domestics. specialization. duh. I don't want the help desk managing the network...
There is no "protection" going on. you don't seem to know what the word means.
You have many separate departments who handle immigration which are national; we could create a local o
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Knowing when a criminal gets out of jail and is an illegal-- that is public knowledge! Nobody is stopping or needs to cooperate on this. ICE can't even bother to look up the criminal in jail
The Gov't puts a detainer on criminal illegals in jails, but the police fail to alert the Gov't when they are released. If you want ICE/DHS to sit at the jailhouse around the clock and stop everyone to see if they are subject to a legal order to deport, just say so - but that's gonna take a lot of agents.
We have cities that refuse to hand over criminal with deportation orders to feds - because somehow, keeping them in their community makes their community safer? Really? I would think REMOVING convicted chil
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You shouldn't finish your popcorn before the movie starts.
Don't keep classified defense info! (Score:5, Insightful)
Just one more brick in the wall of the oligarchs proving that they can live by a different set of rules.
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Right in your link it says Biden cooperated with officials during the investigation. Do you see the difference?
Re: Don't keep classified defense info! (Score:2)
Trump was negotiating with national archives for material he was allowed to possess as President.
Biden had documents that were stolen from SCIFS when he was a senator.
See the difference.
Biden was determined to have comitted crimes, but he would be a sympathetic defendant due to his mental challenges (you know, the challenges that no one saw until the debate, then Biden was pulled from the ballot because of his challenges that couldn't be denied any longer... as a reminder, Biden took TWO WEEKS to prepare fo
Re:Don't keep classified defense info! (Score:5, Insightful)
> A former senator and vice president does not have the same authority to declassify docs as they see fir. See the difference?
No. Because a former President doesn't have any authority to declassify docs either. And the former President you're defending here did NOT cooperate with the FBI despite "being caught red handed."
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"Red Handed"
On November 2, 2022, Biden's attorneys discovered the first set of classified documents in a locked closet at the Penn Biden Center; they reported them that day to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), which retrieved them the next day. The classified documents included intelligence material and briefing memos on Ukraine, Iran and the United Kingdom.[7] In coordination with the Justice Department (DOJ), Biden's attorneys discovered a second set of documents at Biden's home on
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Trump was caught red handed with documents in fully unsecured/unlocked locations and Trump didn't even give up the documents, he refused until Mar-a-lago was raided.
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Trump was caught red handed with documents in fully unsecured/unlocked locations and Trump didn't even give up the documents, he refused until Mar-a-lago was raided.
The FBI did not RAID Mar-a-Lard-Ass. They executed a Search Warrant after being blown off and lied-to in writing, under Oath, for months on end . . . They showed up in golf shirts and slacks; so as not to frighten the guests. The FBI even Called forty-five minutes before they arrived, to inform them.
In stark contrast, The Fulton County Election Clearinghouse FBI Operation WAS a RAID. Full Tactical Gear. No Notice Whatsoever. Not even a proper Warrant.
Absolutely no comparison whatsoever.
And this just a few d
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No, I don't. He "cooperated" because he was caught red handed. A former senator and vice president does not have the same authority to declassify docs as they see fir. See the difference?
And to just leave banker boxes of classified material in his unsecured garage is beyond the pale and it was clear he'd been doing that for years.
As opposed to in the Bathroom at Mar-a-Largeass; which is ever so much more secure. . . [rollseyes]
Re: Don't keep classified defense info! (Score:1)
I'm okay with putting Biden in prison. But let's go after the kingpin and current threat before we go after the small fries that current hold no authority.
totalitarians go after reporters (Score:5, Insightful)
https://www.rcfp.org/natanson-... [rcfp.org]
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What constitution? It was on life support before Roe vs Wade was overturned despite a complete lack of new legislation or a constitutional amendment to back that up (even Dred Scott needed a constitutional amendment to over turn its precedent), and the current administration is ignoring it outside of token "Pretend Congress still has some power" stuff.
The US Constitution is toilet paper right now. The next democratic (small D) government should have a new one ready to go that has the major holes in the curr
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Re:totalitarians go after reporters (Score:4, Informative)
When did Obama order a raid on a journalist in order to track down a leak?
Obama's record wasn't great, but this looks like an obvious escalation.
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So... you can't actually support your bullshit claims.
Here's the thing, champ: Unlink the average right-wing moron, we actually read the linked content. We don't just blindly assume they support your bullshit.
You're such a fucking joke.
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Your gaslighting isn't going to work, dipshit. We can read. We know you're completely full of shit.
You're such a fucking joke.
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This is why you don't let this stuff slide, even when the guy doing it is popular and seemingly benign. The next guy might not be, and once the door is open...
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Constitutions need to be enforced. After the Republicans have now successfully corrupted the US Supreme Court, that does not happen anymore. Another step into Fascism.
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You're a dishonest scumbag. The article does not support your bullshit claims.
Fuck off, troll.
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Damn. It took a whole 40 minutes between the first post and your post for someone to come up with the fact that search warrants against journalists should never be issued to find their sources. Kudos.
This should have been the first topic to be discussed, instead of "Apple ads" and technology stuff. Police states and totalitarian regimes go after journalists sources. Freedom of press is paramount in a democracy.
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Bill Gates probably wishing... (Score:2)
It would be funny if ... (Score:1)
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Hoist with his own petard. Just desserts for a flimflam that sold a crufty copy of a copy of OS he ripped off. Added window dressing but ignored its horrible security for decadesm His sales team pushed half-baked products into law enforcement, banking, government, and much of the corporate world; despite its glaring technical inadequacies.
Initiate self-destruct sequence. (Score:5, Insightful)
Lockdown mode is better than nothing, but in reality the best option would be automatic, instant, and silent destruction of any data that the adversary might want to get their hands on. After all, adversaries rarely allow you to get the device back anyway. (And there's typically a ploy at work for them if they do.)
Re: Initiate self-destruct sequence. (Score:5, Interesting)
It's tough to initiate that when you're not certain when a device will fall into the wrong hangs. A lock down plus time out for self erase might be a reasonable compromise.
My old friend used to put a hundreds of fake URLs that he monitored as a canary or trip wire (I forgot what he called it). The longish path to a fake file was unlikely to be found accidentally, but if someone access his device and attempted to access the links that would inadvertently alert him. This can be helpful for detecting a remote attack, or knowing when an agency successfully unlocked a device. With the intention that he'd get a lawyer to go after any improper procedure to reach an acquittal
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"Self erase" is a myth. It does not work in real-world scenarios. Unless the attackers are incompetent and cannot spend any money. To be fair, law-enforcement and spying on citizens is often done on the cheap and routinely done incompetently.
Lockdown mode is quite inconvenient (Score:2)
There is also loss of functionality. Like you
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Lockdown mode is device specific, although Apple nudges you to turn it on across all accounts. That has nothing to do with iCloud encryption.
Advanced Data Protection for iCloud is what removes the second key from Apple's servers and only allows it on your devices. If you go with Yubikeys + ADP, this provides a very strong barrier... but of course, if the Yubikeys and devices are lost, you are out your data AND devices. I use ADP just for peace of mind if a cloud service is compromised. Same reason why I
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That's the point of lockdown mode. It's designed to reduce the potential attack surface of iOS by reducing functionality.
It's one of those adjustments where you trade functionality for security that most people probably won't ever use. But for those people who feel they need it, they may be willing to make the trade.
That's why Apple doesn't enable it by default. But it's there should you need it.
Correction: FBI anounces it couldn't get in there. (Score:2)
... it's entirely plausible Apple just gave them access under the condition that they claim they didn't do it.
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Snowden leaks showed this is how it works. Also the big thing they always talk about is simply "acknowledging existence of a capability".
So yes they play big on hiding the mere fact that a capability may exist. They want you using vulnerable stuff. You know, like friends.
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They want you using vulnerable stuff. You know, like friends.
Given the long history of these, ahem, "people of negative worth to society", trying to place vulnerabilities and backdoors, this is the most plausible explanation.
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Undocumented MMIO (memory-mapped I/O) registers in Apple A12–A16 Bionic SoCs [securityweek.com]
There was a time this would be a non-starter... (Score:2)
There once was a time the search of a journalists phone would have been a non-starter. Protected. Appears we're in a timeline where this is now a norm, and the press has no protection anymore. Just a technical hurdle to be overcome.
Freedom of the press had a purpose...
The press had a purpose...
On a parallel thought.. anyone know how to get back onto the old time line? will be happy with going back in time 30 years too... (much more sane.. and those were the 90's... )
Doesn't matter anyway (Score:5, Insightful)
Raiding the Washington Post reporter's home and seizing things is more about harassment and intimidation than the investigation into the government contractor Aurelio Perez-Lugone. The reporter isn't listed in the criminal complaint against the contractor and the raid on her was requested by the Pentagon. This sort of thing hasn't happened before in a situation like this.
FBI searches reporter's home, raising concerns about intimidation of free press [pbs.org]
So the criminal complaint against this contractor does not mention any ties to The Washington Post reporter, yet the attorney general, Pam Bondi,on X said that the search was requested by the Pentagon "at the home of a Washington Post journalist, who was obtaining and reporting classified and illegally leaked information from a Pentagon contractor."
One, it is notable that the attorney general is pointing out that the Department of Justice has a suspect in custody and in fact has charged that suspect. And so it raises the question as to why the Justice Department and the FBI would take the extraordinary step of executing a search warrant at the home of a reporter and seizing her electronic devices.
The other point that I would make here is that this is actually something that we haven't seen before. Again, we're talking about the FBI raiding the home of a journalist in a national security leak case. At the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, where I work, we track these cases closely.
We are not aware of another case where the Justice Department has executed a search warrant in a national security leak case against a journalist or against a news outlet. It's unprecedented.
Just means they do not want to admit it (Score:2)
Ways to break into things lose their value when they become public knowledge. Hence they may well have been able to break in, but decided not to admit to it. One scenario is that they did not even try because other evidence showed them it would be futile or they did not have to. Another scenario is that they did break in, found nothing justifying the admission that they were able to and now lie about things.
Of course, it is possible they actually cannot get in either. But it is impossible to say what is tru
All comes down to your passcode/phrase then (Score:2)
Apple: Feature request - kill code unlock pin (Score:2)
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You give them far too much credit. If they had gained access they would be bragging about it.
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But, if they did that, they would not get to keep the phone which is what they were arguing, no? ...perhaps I misread that...
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Even if they did unlawfully keep the phone, what court is going to enforce judgement to return it?
Re: typical disinformation (Score:2)
Many if not most manufacturers provide system images which include both system and radio flashes. There's not a lot of physical room inside a phone to hide stuff.
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More often than not if they think that the methods might come out in a discovery and become public they will back off and let the perpetrator walk.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's not what happened here. There was a threat of Discovery and so they backed off on the search.
You'd Be surprised how often we find out about some horrifying things because of a lawsuit and the
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Or they will use "parallel construction" and get away with straight up lying in court.
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Just because the authorities claim something does not mean it's true, this may simply be the disinformation they need people to believe. For all we know, it might just be a red herring and a red flag.
I came to say exactly this. I still think the odds favour the supposition that they're telling the truth - but I wouldn't bet much money on either side.
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That might be true in general, but with this alleged administration, believe nothing they say. They've never been caught telling the truth about anything.
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Well, not _forever_ ... my iPod said it was locked for another 23508980 minutes, in december 2014. I will just have to remember the code by August 25, 2059