Earth is Warming Faster Than Ever. But Why? (msn.com) 114
"Global temperatures have been rising for decades," reports the Washington Post. "But many scientists say it's now happening faster than ever before."
According to a Washington Post analysis, the fastest warming rate on record occurred in the last 30 years. The Post used a dataset from NASA to analyze global average surface temperatures from 1880 to 2025. "We're not continuing on the same path we had before," said Robert Rohde, chief scientist at Berkeley Earth. "Something has changed...." Temperatures over the past decade have increased by close to 0.27 degrees C per decade — about a 42 percent increase...
For decades, a portion of the warming unleashed by greenhouse gas emissions was "masked" by sulfate aerosols. These tiny particles cause heart and lung disease when people inhale polluted air, but they also deflect the sun's rays. Over the entire planet, those aerosols can create a significant cooling effect — scientists estimate that they have canceled out about half a degree Celsius of warming so far. But beginning about two decades ago, countries began cracking down on aerosol pollution, particularly sulfate aerosols. Countries also began shifting from coal and oil to wind and solar power. As a result, global sulfur dioxide emissions have fallen about 40 percent since the mid-2000s; China's emissions have fallen even more. That effect has been compounded in recent years by a new international regulation that slashed sulfur emissions from ships by about 85 percent.
That explains part of why warming has kicked up a bit. But some researchers say that the last few years of record heat can't be explained by aerosols and natural variability alone. In a paper published in the journal Science in late 2024, researchers argued that about 0.2 degrees C of 2023's record heat — or about 13 percent — couldn't be explained by aerosols and other factors. Instead, they found that the planet's low-lying cloud cover had decreased — and because low-lying clouds tend to reflect the sun's rays, that decrease warmed the planet... That shift in cloud cover could also be partly related to aerosols, since clouds tend to form around particles in the atmosphere. But some researchers also say it could be a feedback loop from warming temperatures. If temperatures warm, it can be harder for low-lying clouds to form.
If most of the current record warmth is due to changing amounts of aerosol pollution, the acceleration would stop once aerosol pollutants reach zero — and the planet would return to its previous, slower rate of warming. But if it's due to a cloud feedback loop, the acceleration is likely to continue — and bring with it worsening heat waves, storms and droughts.
"Scientists thought they understood global warming," reads the Post's original headline. "Then the past three years happened."
Just last month Nuuk, Greenland saw temperatures over 20 degrees Fahrenheit above average, their article points out. And "Parts of Australia, meanwhile, have seen temperatures push past 120 degrees Fahrenheit amid a record heat wave..."
For decades, a portion of the warming unleashed by greenhouse gas emissions was "masked" by sulfate aerosols. These tiny particles cause heart and lung disease when people inhale polluted air, but they also deflect the sun's rays. Over the entire planet, those aerosols can create a significant cooling effect — scientists estimate that they have canceled out about half a degree Celsius of warming so far. But beginning about two decades ago, countries began cracking down on aerosol pollution, particularly sulfate aerosols. Countries also began shifting from coal and oil to wind and solar power. As a result, global sulfur dioxide emissions have fallen about 40 percent since the mid-2000s; China's emissions have fallen even more. That effect has been compounded in recent years by a new international regulation that slashed sulfur emissions from ships by about 85 percent.
That explains part of why warming has kicked up a bit. But some researchers say that the last few years of record heat can't be explained by aerosols and natural variability alone. In a paper published in the journal Science in late 2024, researchers argued that about 0.2 degrees C of 2023's record heat — or about 13 percent — couldn't be explained by aerosols and other factors. Instead, they found that the planet's low-lying cloud cover had decreased — and because low-lying clouds tend to reflect the sun's rays, that decrease warmed the planet... That shift in cloud cover could also be partly related to aerosols, since clouds tend to form around particles in the atmosphere. But some researchers also say it could be a feedback loop from warming temperatures. If temperatures warm, it can be harder for low-lying clouds to form.
If most of the current record warmth is due to changing amounts of aerosol pollution, the acceleration would stop once aerosol pollutants reach zero — and the planet would return to its previous, slower rate of warming. But if it's due to a cloud feedback loop, the acceleration is likely to continue — and bring with it worsening heat waves, storms and droughts.
"Scientists thought they understood global warming," reads the Post's original headline. "Then the past three years happened."
Just last month Nuuk, Greenland saw temperatures over 20 degrees Fahrenheit above average, their article points out. And "Parts of Australia, meanwhile, have seen temperatures push past 120 degrees Fahrenheit amid a record heat wave..."
It's The Sun's Fault (Score:4, Funny)
All the global warming, all of it, is coming directly from the Sun.
We've got to put the Sun out, before it kills us all and destroys the planet.
Out with the Sun!
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Good luck there, space cadet.
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Well, there are people who want to block a part of the sun from earth in order to slow down this "heating". Well, let's see what happens once they do it!
Who has standing to sue the sun? (Score:4, Interesting)
I like the opening joke of the discussion. On your idea, I sort of like the idea of orbital mirrors that could be rotated as needed. For example, street lighting in cities done in a quite sustainable and inexpensive way. However when you start doing it at a large scale to play games with the weather, then I think it would require much better weather and climate modeling than we currently have, and possibly better than is possible since the so-called "butterfly effects" can never be fully accounted for.
So reverting to my solution obsession, I think we're in pert' big trouble. Much more than a fail to communicate between various cesspools of the vanities, but rather a fundamental breakdown in the solution process. My newest short formulation is that we have made a LOT of changes even during my lifetime, and some of those changes have created problems that are rising to existential levels. We need more changes to fix those problems, but the people with power and resources to push for solutions are unwilling. They profited greatly from creating the problems and they are now most focused on blocking any changes that would threaten their "supreme" power and resources. The worst of them would even explicitly argue that the biggest problem is their personal need for more, More, MORE, but I would argue that is a fake problem with no conceivable solution.
(Just came across an interesting variation in a book I am reading:
To Marcel Duchamp's blithe "There is no solution, because there is no problem," the Japanese visual artist Shigeko Kubota replied, "There is no problem, because there is no solution."
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Mirrors in space are not usable for lighting. The sun is not a point, it occupies an angle of view, and the spread of the light from the mirror to the earth's surface will have the same angle. The mirror therefore has to be really large.
It does seem like a worthwhile thing to consider is small mirrors that are designed to block sunlight. They would look like a diffuse clould from the earth. The primary advantage is that if they have any kind of thrusters on them they can quickly re-orient to increase or dec
Re:Who has standing to sue the sun? (Score:4)
I find it rather absurd to even consider anything orbital or flying as a solution. This seems based on a grotesque misjudgement of scale and economics. What needs to be done is known very well: Massive and quick rollout of renewables in combination with more efficient and smarter use of energy.
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Let me be clear that I am NOT advocating for this. More of a fantasy triggered by too much SF in my youth. I still read some, but either I or the SF world has gone kind of dark recently...
However what I was imagining is basically a large loop with a thin reflective film stretched across it. There would be a control module with gyroscopes in the middle, and the angle of the mirror would be controlled by spinning the gyroscopes in the opposite direction of each desired movement. Solar powered, obviously.
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Have we learned NOTHING from Highlander Part 2!?
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Well, stratospheric aerosol injection [wikipedia.org] is exactly that. Except it uses gasses and not a solid shield.
Re: It's The Sun's Fault (Score:1)
Pfft. Everyone knows blue indicates a hotter flame than red. Typical libs not even knowing their own science to follow...
Re: It's The Sun's Fault (Score:3)
That's not in the Bible!
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Its the US that has the colours backward.
In the rest of the world, RED is the colour af the parties of the left. (examples include Labour, Social Democrats, and of course in the extremes, Socialists and Communists. ,Tories Christian Democrats etc.
BLUE is the colour af the more conservative parties
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"red" was identified with Communists for decades in the USA, so it does seem to make sense that the left party should be red (or avoid red altogether if you want to say that "neither of them are Communist"). I have heard that color tv stations used random different colors and after a few years they all agreed to match one of them which happened to pick the colors we see.
Re:It's The Sun's Fault (Score:4, Interesting)
After the Civil War, our parties switched sides. The liberals went to the Democratic Party, and the conservatives went to the Republican Party. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.
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Don't be so sure that Republicans aren't Communists and Democrats aren't Fascists.
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I could play this game and claim that china and the anti-nuclear propaganda are a massive contributor to that, but shit gets complicated quite quickly.
Of course, turning on the coal power plants and blocking green energy don't help at all, and the AI craze DEFINITIVELY does not help at all.
We probably will have to do some crazy shit like filling the oceans with salp at this point.
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Salp?
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It's a barrel shaped, transparent marine invertebrate that is apparently very good at capturing carbon.
Also some people may have some pretty WRONG ideas looking at these things
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Huh... never heard of it before... will have to read up on salps. Thank you for that one!
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And then every island gets a fresh delivery of nori, with a free side of flies!
Could happen (Score:2)
Suddenly hitting the deadline for Proton decay could bring the Sun's fusion process to a screeching halt. Hopefully there is no proton decay, but I also don't know of a way to prove it can't ever happen.
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So, you're telling me that there's a chance.
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It would be a half-life like all other random decay, and that's why we even bother looking for events. It's not like an alarm would sound and all protons would just fall apart.
Re: It's The Sun's Fault (Score:2)
You could be onto something here... Earth is currently at the peak of its solar cycle, also calles Solar Cycle 25.
Ocean's full (Score:2)
Haven't looked haven't done the math, but I believe the ocean's been taking up a lot of heat. It probably slows down as it gets closer to the new balance point.
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There's a balance point, we haven't reached it yet. Following my idea, we've reached the point where the oceans have absorbed enough heat that the dynamics change and now the air's heating up faster.
We have a pretty good handle on atmospheric CO2 and insolation, so I'm betting the third major factor when we're not sure precisely what's going on (because we have certainty on the general process) is the ocean heat sink.
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I agree. I think what is happening is that the "equilibrium" temperature we would reach eventually due to the gas we have put into the atmosphere is increasing faster than the actual temperature is. As the two temperatures get further apart it means there is more force on the current temperature to go up. This does not seem to be a suprise then, and it seems like measuring it might give some hint as to what the actual equilibrium temperature will be.
I suspect we are going to raise CO2 to the level where re-
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The oceans are getting warmer and therefore release CO2
Re:Ocean's full (Score:4)
The ocean has absorbed 25±2% of the total anthropogenic CO2 emissions from the early 1960s to the late 2010s, with rates more than tripling over this period and with a mean uptake of –2.7±0.3PgCyear–1 for the period 1990 through 2019. [nature.com]
But why? (Score:4, Insightful)
It's not about short-term profit (Score:5, Insightful)
Common Sense dictates that we just have publicly owned solar power since it's literally going to be a universally desired service that has little or no cost beyond the original setup and then some maintenance and recycling.
But we threw common Sense out the window decades ago when we decided to go all in on reaganism and thatcherism. Or whatever your local equivalent is to pseudocapitalism.
So instead banks will loan billions and billions of dollars to private individuals so that they own the infrastructure needed for electricity and get to decide where that electricity goes while profiting from it and I suspect they will just default on the loans and we will all get stuck bailing out those two big to fail Banks like we always do.
Socialize the losses privatize the profits
Re: But remember to make some critical thinking (Score:2)
The main issue is not tire particles, not even close.
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One and the same... prove otherwise.
Oh... and for the smog thing... see: https://slashdot.org/comments.... [slashdot.org]
Technology connections has a long video (Score:1)
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I know, I'm so full of shit because solar works at night and wind turbines work when there's no wind... I'm so wrong because hailstones and tornados magically avoid any solar arrays.
I'll save you a seat there... isn't humanity damned to spend eternity there for killing Jesus? Does not believing not matter?
Mostly, it's just fun getting you all wound up, seeing what you'll say!
How odd (Score:5, Informative)
Almost like scientists were saying there was a tipping point when global temperatures would start climbing. Here’s a handy graph for republicans. https://xkcd.com/1732/ [xkcd.com]
Re: How odd (Score:1)
And with rapid adoption of CARBON NEUTRAL EVs....no wonder.
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Shut the frick up you psychotic autist lying sack of cow dung. You idiots would be blaming everyone but yourselves even if the world were ending tomorrow. Literally narcissists to the core and to your dying breath,
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Just so we're clear, no matter how many times you guys try and twist the graphs, or come up with half baked theories about why physics wont work in the sky so theres nothing to worry about, physics will still refuse to comply with libertarian ideology.
We've known about global warming for 150 years now, the evidence continues to stack up. chanting political talismans at it wont change that.
Re: How odd (Score:5, Insightful)
So science, not "Sciencism" or whatever, tells us that climate change is happening, and it's going to be really really bad.
That's the point you're agreeing with, yes? Real actual science done with real actual data that shows us the real actual detrimental impact that humans are causing to our planet's climate.
I agree. Real science for the win.
It's just a pity the politicians and many on the far right disagree with us.
But they don't understand real science. They understand money. Money before everything.
Which is a pity.
But, yeah, I agree -- real science shows climate change is happening and is going to destroy the planet. And I'm glad you agree too.
Re:How odd (Score:5, Insightful)
What does this have to do with left vs right? Liberal vs conservative? Straight vs gay? Trans vs ... I dunno, whatever not trans is.
The climate does not give a fuck about your politics, or your party affiliation, or your gender, or your pronouns, or whatever.
Neither does science. Or math.
If you think that making the world a less healthful and less livable place is a great idea, then there's simply something wrong with you. That's not being "conservative"; that's just being an ignorant cultist.
The EPA was created by conservatives. Our national park system was created by conservatives. Conservatives conserve.
You're not a conservative. And despite your chosen name here, your post is one of the most ignorant and idiotic that I've encountered today, which is really saying something.
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The EPA was signed into law by noted woke libtard Richard Nixon.
Re: How odd (Score:2)
I think you've found a false etymology. Political conservativism has been about conserving a social and political status quo and not about the environment. Historically a support of monarchy and other hierarchical institutions and of the social class system.
People of many different political ideologies can be in support of environmental conservation. Turns out we all live in the same environment.
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Even if we (the global We) switched completely to EVs and renewables-only electricity, it's gonna take hundreds of years or more for it to make a difference, not to mention that deforestation has taken away the biggest carbon trap around (gotta make room for commercialized factory farming).
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Wow, denialism at it's finest. You are an ass.
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Thank you for once again publishing a well debunked comic that uses horrifically bad statistics/graphing to falsely depict what's really been going on,
That temperature reconstruction is pretty much in line with more recent global mean surface temperature reconstructions like this one, from https://www.nature.com/article... [slashdot.org] >this paper.
by screwing with the timeline scales
No. The timeline is the same scale throughout. That's the point of the cartoon.
and complete lack of regional analysis
That's right. It's a global mean surface temperature that he's plotted.
from the same people who say the little ice age was regional and therefore doesn't matter
the LIA doesn't show up much on global temperature reconstructions for that reason. The global mean surface temperature is still the better statistic to analyse global warmi
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As a scientist, I somehow doubt you know much about science or the scientific method.
Why would warming... (Score:2)
... prevent low lying cloud? Clouds form when theres enough moisture and the temp drops low enough. A one degree increase in average air temps would only push the cloudbase up by 150-200 metres or so, so something more subtle must be going on.
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Globally, higher temperatures result in increased humidity, so more clouds. It may be drier in certain places, but it's more than made up for by the rest.
monkeys boutta die out (meaning you) (Score:5, Interesting)
How conveniently we forget.
The whole and only point of not hitting +2 degrees was to avoid the runaway processes beyond which we could not predict what would happen from our position of ignorance.
Yes the world's climate is always changing. It does so through some obvious and predictable mechanisms, and some others less obvious. All we knew was the probability of runaway process we did not understand got unacceptably high if we hit +2 through the CO2 mechanism.
We all know how that played out - the stupid won.
Flap your jaws if you want, they never mattered anyway
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The whole and only point of not hitting +2 degrees was to avoid the runaway processes beyond which we could not predict what would happen from our position of ignorance.
Indeed. That process is called "Risk Management" and something most people do not even begin to understand.
the stupid won.
Yes. As a species, the human race is incapable on an advanced level. Sometimes that has rather drastic consequences.
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You have that exactly wrong. Nobody is predicting these because nobody knows what will happen at >2C increase.
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There once were 7 (?) sapient species. One is left. Ever wondered what happened to the others and how very lucky the last one has been so far?
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So pretend it's a genuine question instead of trying to be clever?
If 90% of the span of a system's resting state is MUCH warmer, but it has been slowly cooling over time, how theoretically will a small increase in that system's warmth suddenly "set off uncontrollable warming"?
Let's walk through an example:
I have a beaker of water at 140F. T=seconds.
If I let it cool/warm as follows:
T= 0 140
T= 50 40
T= 100 120
T= 150 0
T= 200 -40
T= 250 110
T= 300 60
T= 350 50
T= 40
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You’re so smart. Everyone should know that you stand atop the world with your uneducated cynicism.
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Well, LLM-AI data centers aren't into terawatt territory yet... far as I know, they're still in 10s of gigawatts ("1.21 jiggawatts!"), but I can totally see them scaling up to TWs soon... gotta have our ChatGPT!
(sarcasm> But... but... green electricity! We'll just build a ton of solar panels and wind turbines and that'll take care of all the power needs of the data center!
(/sarcasm>
I have a solution! (Score:2)
You don't have a solution! (Score:2)
Then everyone will just have to get by without oil.
You do understand that without oil we can't produce fertilizer, plastics, etc... and "getting by without oil" would translate to billions dead, most notably in the developing world that is not food secure? That is, you are actively calling for genocide that would make Hitler blush.
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Positive feedback loop (Score:5, Insightful)
It's called a positive feedback loop. And it will be way more annoying that a squeal from a speaker too close to a mic.
Drill, baby, drill! (Score:2)
also means "burn, baby, burn!".
Despite attempts to have carbon emissions lowered, that really hasn't happened.
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\o/ (Score:1)
Perhaps if you deploy sufficient compute to truly understand the cause, we might find observer effect?
Blame Charlie Sheen (Score:2)
He assured us he got rid of the aliens in The Arrival. But at the end...
Why was there no sequel, Charlie? Why no follow up?
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There was... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Inconceivable! (Score:2)
An accelerating feedback loop? That is incon.. er.. umm... as predicted.
Not what the data says (Score:2)
Dansgaard-Oeschger “D–O signals [10-16C warming events within decades to centuries] are not just seen in Greenland – they are registered globally.” – Liu et al., 2026
From 57,000 to 29,000 years ago, with Last Glacial atmospheric CO2 concentrations flatlining at ~200 ppm, there were 11 instances when Greenland abruptly warmed by 10-16C within a span of just 50 to 200 years
We're still in the ice age (Score:1)
That said, yes, human activity might i
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You could just look up this information to see how everything you said is untrue. But no, lead poisoning and narcissism has led you down a path of ignorance and denial.
Re:A good Matlab replacement, not the next big thi (Score:2)
The reasoning of idiots (Score:2)
"Scientists can't explain why warming is accelerating. Science can't explain it. Therefore global warming is a crock."
-- The authoritative opinion of a random ignoramus.
Re:A good Matlab replacement, not the next big thi (Score:2)
Celsius (Score:2)
Depending on the best case is really stupid (Score:2)
In actual reality you usually will get the average case. If it is something new and only partially understood, you often run into unpleasant surprises and get something significantly worse.
Real risk management can deal with that. The amateur-level stuff most people use cannot and what evil scum like Trump does simply ignores all risks because they do not care what happens to others.
China (Score:2)
Co-incidentally (or not) during the last 30 years, Chinese GDP grew by 20x. During the same period, the U.S. GDP increase was only 2x. Obviously, green-house gas emissions are tied to GDP growth.
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Luckily, we know that growth can be decoupled from CO2 emissions. CO2 emissions from Germany and the EU are decreasing since 90s and of the US and high-income countries overall since the last 20 years (per capita emissions in the US are still relatively high in the US due to wasteful lifestyle and processes). China also seemed to have peaked now due to rollout of renewables. Unfortunately, CO2 emissions are coupled to stupidity and I see no end here.
Why? Wars. (Score:3)
The combustion products of modern firearm propellants, from pistols to artillery, are the same things we seek to minimise generation of in civilian life - carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and nitrogen.
Things on the receiving end of artillery, missiles and bombs tend to catch fire.
Even military vehicles, unlike their civilian counterparts, are not designed with low engine emissions as a primary design goal.
So, maybe not going to another country, shooting people and burning their stuff might help. Just saying...
Volcano theory (Score:2)
Perhaps there's something happening in the Earth's core or crust that helps it. Maybe a super volcano brewing somewhere, creating a stove-like hotspot.
Is it to distract from... (Score:1)
Global warming is good (Score:1)
and I like it a lot.
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Probably a combination of things (Score:2)
In university, when I studied prehistoric Europe (in archaeology classes) we learned that we are coming out of a glacial period into an interglacial period. The Earth has been swinging between glacial (ice ages) and interglacial periods for most of its history. IIRC, that is largely due to fluctuations in the sun's total energy output, which isn't always constant, and some of this was influenced by mass deforestation as we discovered and developed metallurgy.
Also, as a kid growing up, there was a lot of pan
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I do like (Score:2)
Wait, something is wrong with this. (Score:2)
Even if aerosol pollutants could reach zero, wouldn't that make it worse? That sounds like fewer clouds, which means hotter.