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China Once Stole Foreign Ideas. Now It Wants To Protect Its Own (economist.com) 56

China's courts are now handling more than 550,000 intellectual-property cases a year -- making it the world's most litigious country for IP disputes -- as the nation's own companies, once notorious for copying foreign designs and technology, find themselves on the defensive against a domestic counterfeiting epidemic fueled by excess factory capacity.

The problem runs from knockoff "Lafufu" plush toys (cheap copies of Pop Mart's wildly popular Labubu dolls, which prompted a nationwide crackdown and a Shanghai police bust of a $1.7 million stash in July) to copied motorcycles and solar panels. Judges in Shanghai, the preferred venue for IP litigation, are working through cases at a rate of roughly one per day, and it still takes three months for a case to land on a court's docket.

Chinese companies are also increasingly clashing abroad: patent-related cases involving Chinese businesses in America surged 56% in 2023, according to data from GEN, a Chinese law firm. Luckin Coffee and Trina Solar have both filed suits against foreign-based copycats.
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China Once Stole Foreign Ideas. Now It Wants To Protect Its Own

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  • The Business Plan (Score:5, Insightful)

    by The Cat ( 19816 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @12:10PM (#65994280)

    Steal until you have it all, then hire a security guard.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Following the footsteps of the U.S.. Started without copyrights or patents while they used all the foreign ones without payment. Then when they built up enough that they wanted to protect their own they amended the constitution to add them.

      • by AvitarX ( 172628 ) <me@NoSpAm.brandywinehundred.org> on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @12:33PM (#65994334) Journal

        The part about copyright comes before the amendments.

        The laws have changed but the constitution has had it as available from the start.

        • by HiThere ( 15173 )

          Depends on what you mean. Through the 1950's and into the 1960's the US refused to recognize copyrights on works that were first published in foreign countries.

      • by DamnOregonian ( 963763 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @12:42PM (#65994362)
        Copyright and patent protection bare literally baked into the un-amended Constitution.
        I get it- America touched you in the bad place. It's fine to be mad at it for that. But just making shit up to make yourself feel better about it? That's weak sauce.
        • Copyright and patent protection bare literally baked into the un-amended Constitution.

          Yeah but the OP isn't wrong in practice, only in theory. Forget about even the outside, Holywood got started because of people wanting to escape patent enforcement for film making patents in New York.

          It's a thing: up and coming countries have absolutely no incentive to follow the strictures of IP. But once they've risen, and start generating IP, the attitude changes. It's a widely repeated pattern. The US went through it o

          • That story reeks of being apocryphal.

            1) Moving west would not have absolved them of the patents held by the Edison Trust.
            2) This is evidenced by the fact that the lawsuits continued, and just 7 years later, the Edison Trust's practices were ruled illegal.

            Hollywood may have moved west because they didn't like operating in the same town as the Edison Trust- no idea... but the idea that it made it so that they could infringe on patents, which are Federally protected, is absurd.

            Allow me to present a more
          • Damn, meant to respond to the following too:

            It's a thing: up and coming countries have absolutely no incentive to follow the strictures of IP. But once they've risen, and start generating IP, the attitude changes. It's a widely repeated pattern. The US went through it once upon a time too.

            There were not international agreements to respect intellectual property until the late 19th century.
            An up-and-coming country has the same amount of obligation to respect foreign intellectual property as an established country- and that's whatever they have agreed to by international treaty.

            The US violated everyone's international property prior to the Berne Convention, and so did everyone else.
            That's why the Berne Convention happened.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          The IP theft of early Hollywood is well documented. The main reason they went to Hollywood was that it was far away from the patent holders.

          More than that though, US history is littered with examples of what is basically IP theft. During WW2, the UK helped develop the atomic bomb, and supersonic aircraft. The deal was that in exchange, the UK would get access to all the US work... Except, the Americans just decided they weren't going to do that, after getting all our data.

          As Steve Jobs famously said, good a

          • The IP theft of early Hollywood is well documented. The main reason they went to Hollywood was that it was far away from the patent holders.

            No, the myth is well propagated.
            Moving to another part of the country does not shield you from Federal law.
            Hollywood moved west, and continued to fight the patent troll behavior of the Edison Trust, eventually winning, with the Edison Trust eventually being dissolved for antitrust behavior.

            More than that though, US history is littered with examples of what is basically IP theft. During WW2, the UK helped develop the atomic bomb, and supersonic aircraft. The deal was that in exchange, the UK would get access to all the US work... Except, the Americans just decided they weren't going to do that, after getting all our data.

            More mythical dumbfuckery.
            During WW2, initially, the UK did not want to share development on atomic weaponry, so the US created its own program.
            Eventually, it independently passed the UK, and the UK asked to join.
            As

    • Yeah, this is hilarious - a communist regime that once thought nothing about intellectual property, until they discovered that they have some that they'd like to monetize

      • Who knew that when you build an economy on the back of "stealing IP from foreigners is perfectly fine, even encouraged"... people would decide "why just from foreigners?"

      • Yeah, this is hilarious - a communist regime that once thought nothing about intellectual property, until they discovered that they have some that they'd like to monetize

        Is that funnier than a capitalist regime doing the same (i.e. America previously). I don't get the joke...

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        To be honest, the US was like that too. Back when copyright was on a country by country basis, the US would often print "pirated" versions of books because none of the US publishers had to respect English copyright. It's why you can often find both the English first printing, and a US first printing of a book - and there can be different values associated with those copies.

        Many publishers set up shop in the US to pirate English books for this reason - the colonies were not going to respect English copyright

  • by cpurdy ( 4838085 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @12:19PM (#65994294)
    This is an interesting topic, and one with precedent. It turns out that the United States was accused for many years of stealing inventions from the UK and other European countries (IIRC: starting with the industrial revolution and its relationship to fabric production), and as its economic dominance emerged, its IP protectionism grew with it. It has long been predicted that China would take a similar path, and while it does mean (with extra thanks to trump) that the sun is rapidly setting on the US empire, we shouldn't freak out about this. The correct course of action (as exhibited by China) is to invest heavily in education, modernization, infrastructure, and strategic subsidies. Unfortunately, the US is currently investing in corruption, culture wars, and nihilism instead, but we must assume that these errors are correctable and worth correcting.
    • by SirSlud ( 67381 )

      yes, the US is investing in being awesome by legislating having to repeat "I'm awesome" as often as possible, making saying "I'm not awesome" come with real consequences

      let's see how it works out

    • by hdyoung ( 5182939 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @01:00PM (#65994416)
      Your points about IP are spot on. US citizen here. Yes, we stole knowledge ruthlessly mostly but not entirely from Europe before deciding that maybe ideas should be protected somehow. Yes, China is probably following the same path. To me, it'll be interesting to see how China navigates this. The US frequently struggles to get it's way because it's constantly accused of various forms of hypocrisy (and we usually deserve it). But I think China is going to have that problem 10 times worse. Their law basically amounts to "whatever the Emperor wants it to be" and everybody knows it. In this sense, they're treading the same path that Russia did.

      Your thoughts on the US empire are off target, in my opinion. Most of this crap with the Trump administration is not new. I watched a very similar thing play out during the Bush years. Liberals went too far left, and the everyday Joes decided to elect an utterly unremarkable born-into--wealth basic bro, because he "vibes" with a big chunk of the electorate. Queue up 8 years of mostly sh&*y right wing policy mixed in with a small amount of reasonable policy correction, and then the country swings the other way. There's been a few unique things about the Trump train, but overall this feels like a mostly normal political cycle in the US.

      The US will eventually fall out of the top spot. It happens to all hegemons given enough time. But, at this point, I think that it's the wrong conclusion.
      • Your status of a US citizen doesn't grant some kind of authority to your argument, so that's a bizarre claim.
        Beyond that, it's entirely fucking wrong.

        The entire world "stole" technology prior to international conventions on intellectual property, which were a late-19th century invention- and precisely for that reason.
  • Give me the mainland for a nerve job any day. Fix you right, mate

    • Would you care to expand on that? This article [jhandsurg.org] from the Journal of Hand Surgery says that nerve grafts were invented in France, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the history goes back further.
  • Communism: What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine.

    • Re: (Score:2, Flamebait)

      by sit1963nz ( 934837 )
      Sounds like the USA today.
      The billionaire class simply grab everything they can for themselves and then sue into oblivion anyone who objects.
  • will claim they stole,
  • â¦now stealing from itself. I blame the perverse incentives and totalitarian government structure. When the Chinese throw off their retched leaders, real honesty and business can be done.

    • So what happened in the USA then...? Corporate welfare is rampant in the USA, and Musk has shown how rich you can get on them as well as the "lobbying" of politicians to get awarded contract in front of other better options wh simply failed to pay a big enough bribe.
  • by Sloppy ( 14984 ) on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @04:21PM (#65994968) Homepage Journal

    You dare to call yourselves communists?!

  • Don't believe me. Ask the US Department of Defense. And its OK to say Chinese, isn't it.

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