Billions of Dollars Later and Still Nobody Knows What an Xbox Is (theverge.com) 65
Microsoft has spent more than $76 billion acquiring game studios and publishers over the past few years in an attempt to turn Xbox into a Netflix-like subscription platform, and the result is that nobody -- possibly not even Microsoft -- can clearly articulate what Xbox actually is anymore, The Verge writes.
The brand started as a powerful video game console, but Game Pass and cloud gaming pushed it toward a hazier identity: the "This is an Xbox" ad campaign tried to redefine it as any device that could play Xbox games, whether a PC, a smart TV, a phone, or a Windows handheld. Microsoft then went further and started publishing its biggest franchises on PlayStation, making it one of the largest third-party publishers on a rival's platform.
Phil Spencer, who led the division for over a decade and drove the subscription pivot, announced his retirement last week, and incoming CEO Asha Sharma has pledged "the return of Xbox" -- though her memo also talks about expanding across PC, mobile, and cloud, which sounds a lot like the status quo.
The brand started as a powerful video game console, but Game Pass and cloud gaming pushed it toward a hazier identity: the "This is an Xbox" ad campaign tried to redefine it as any device that could play Xbox games, whether a PC, a smart TV, a phone, or a Windows handheld. Microsoft then went further and started publishing its biggest franchises on PlayStation, making it one of the largest third-party publishers on a rival's platform.
Phil Spencer, who led the division for over a decade and drove the subscription pivot, announced his retirement last week, and incoming CEO Asha Sharma has pledged "the return of Xbox" -- though her memo also talks about expanding across PC, mobile, and cloud, which sounds a lot like the status quo.
Autoplay video (Score:5, Insightful)
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Where? Here on Slashdot?
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Slashdot has made it clear that they are not content with the money that can be made from the tame, well-behaved ads that ad blockers allow through, and they must impose obnoxious adds on us that ruin our reading experience and expose us to risks of malware.
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The simple truth is none of us need Slashdot. This site just aggregates news from other sites.
Let Linux be an Xbox (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re: Let Linux be an Xbox (Score:2)
Which is not entirely a bad thing. If the studio is (was) still earning money from macOS players but were still x86 32bits... maybe they can recompile for 64 bits or even better for ARM so it can run natively on Apple CPUs.
My son likes to play terraria and the latest update a few weeks ago is now native and it really helped with the performance on his M1 MacBook.
Now if folks really really want to be able to play these older titles it is always possible to run older macOS versions, legally, through emulation
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Recently Nvidia and Intel even hired Linux developers to help with their GPU drivers. Linux is getting better for gaming all the time.
It would be nice if Epic supported it too with their store, and an anticheat solution that would work for Fortnite. Linux is capable of running software that is secure and verifies integrity.
Getting better yes. Good? No.
Tried it a few weeks ago just to see how far it has come. Got a new Asus laptop with 5080 RTX. Pop!_os couldn't run a single program without adjustments and fidgeting. Couldn't even install the damn OS without disabling the SD card reader in BIOS/UEFI, and couldn't get the bluetooth to stop printing errors every boot. Steam was either zoomed in to font 40, or zoomed out to font 6. Not a single game ran without issues - couldn't move in Helldivers 2, couldn't turn more than 45 de
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You can't use the "no demand" excuse anymore when Linux has more users than MacOS on Steam.
Except MacOS is also an example of "no demand", so beating that is like being the second weakest kid in the school and declaring yourself an entry into a powerlifting contest. The only "demand" for Linux gaming has been driven almost exclusively by the Steamdeck, and that has shown Linux gaming works quite well (except for online competitive) without official support.
I wish Linux gaming had marketable demand, but it simply doesn't.
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I wish Linux gaming had marketable demand, but it simply doesn't.
There is a large group of Windows users that cannot migrate to Windows 11 because MS deems their hardware as insufficient even though users have shown that Windows 11 will run fine on that same hardware in a VM. If the primary use of a Windows machine is gaming, a user does not have to upgrade/buy a computer to keep gaming.
Xbox? (Score:1)
Xbox is that thing that microsoft probably seem as "the thing consumers force us to have".
If was what microsoft actually wanted, Xbox would not exist, and instead they would have a dominant online marketstore built-in to windows where people buy all their everything, instead of something like steam existing.
Dumbass consumers choosing something that is more or less good for em instead of something that is good for microsoft.
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I just see the Xbox as a problem and waste of money both for Microslop and consumers.
Define "nobody" (Score:3)
Re:Define "nobody" (Score:5, Insightful)
Xbox has been around a while, and has its marketshare. It is also available on PCs, and anyone w/ a Microsoft account can access it. And it's not like Microsoft has a marginal presence in the overall computer market
Did you read the summary or even the article? The problem is not nobody knows the brand "Xbox". The problem is MS marketing has been shifting the branding to include PCs, phones, smart TVs, etc creating lots of confusion. In October 2025, Asus launched the ROG Xbox Ally; it cannot play Xbox games but PC games. Anyone buying it would have to read the fine print that it cannot play their Xbox games they may have previously purchased.
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XBox used to be a good console, but now that you can play all XBox games on your PC or laptop, the console is meaningless.
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XBox used to be a good console, but now that you can play all XBox games on your PC or laptop, the console is meaningless.
Only if there is a PC version. While many Xbox games are on PC, not all Xbox games are on PC.
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If there's a PC version (like you used to have to buy a PC version or a Mac version of Warcraft II), then what's the point of having an XBox version?
If some XBox games aren't PC-playable... what prevents them from being PC-playable (aside from a greedy money grab)?
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Xbox has been around a while, and has its marketshare. It is also available on PCs, and anyone w/ a Microsoft account can access it. And it's not like Microsoft has a marginal presence in the overall computer market
Did you read the summary or even the article? The problem is not nobody knows the brand "Xbox". The problem is MS marketing has been shifting the branding to include PCs, phones, smart TVs, etc creating lots of confusion. In October 2025, Asus launched the ROG Xbox Ally; it cannot play Xbox games but PC games. Anyone buying it would have to read the fine print that it cannot play their Xbox games they may have previously purchased.
The problem isn't that no-one knows what the XBox brand is, it's pretty much common knowledge.
The problem is no-one wants the Xbox brand, not even most XBox owners (they're just stuck with it.
Marketers and managers refuse to accept the obvious and simple reality that no-one wants their product and services because better alternatives exist (GOG, Steam, et al) so they think that it must be no-one knows about it and this can be fixed through the Magic of Marketing. Not like we haven't seen umpteen singl
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The problem is no-one wants the Xbox brand, not even most XBox owners (they're just stuck with it.
No the issue being brought up has nothing to do with "want". The issue brought up is brand confusion. By marketing "Xbox" as everything and anything MS deems, it causes confusion as to what that brand means. Honda has a popular car model named "Civic". Honda also manufacturers motorcycles, generators, and lawnmowers. The analogy would be if Honda decided to name their different machines as now all "Civics": 2026 Civic Touring Bike, Civic 2200W inverter generator, Civic 8Ah battery lawnmower . Yes right no
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I have Xbox Live for my Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S.
None of those games run on the Xbox app on my Windows 11 PC.
Explain.
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Naturally, I meant "Xbox Game Pass."
It's not about the games (Score:2)
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Side note - I hate them for taking what was supposed to be a tight trilogy and turning it into a forever IP.
It's a video game console. (Score:3)
Obviously. Yeah, they spread themselves a little to thin and tried everything and the kitchen sink for current gen, right after initially botching their last gen launch epic style, but it's still a console and anybody who knows anything about videogaming knows this. This sensationalist headlining is super-annoying, isn't it?
Xbox? (Score:5, Funny)
They should just rename it to X, since there is no longer a box involved.
Problem solved.
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Or make Xbox into a steam box competitor? Like Xbox becomes known as an emulation layer that allows you to play your game that you purchased in one place anywhere that Xbox runs.
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"Please stop calling it the X-Bone."
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an Xbox is a gaming console - next question.
If you read the summary, that's the problem. To MS, Xbox is also phones, smart TVs, PCs, and handhelds. It no longer means the console; it is whatever MS decides it is on any given time period.
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if you ask a random sampling of people in a store, or literally anywhere, "gaming console" will be the predominate answer to the order of 99.9% of answers.
Again, MS says otherwise. According to MS, "Xbox" means whatever it says today. That might change tomorrow.
this is a stupid premise that a retard decided they could run an article on. honestly probably just AI slop. and a pro tip - if a headline starts has something like "NOBODY" in it, then you know its just rage bait.
No. In October 2025, Asus launched the ROG Xbox Ally and ROG Xbox Ally X handhelds. They do not play Xbox games. They play PC games. The naming was blessed by MS. This was no hallucination or AI slop. This happened.
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no. a retard with a keyboard and website said otherwise. why do you fucking morons suck all this shit down like its the gospel?? fucking grow up.
Let me say this slowly again as you seem very slow: Microsoft says the Asus ROG Xbox Ally is an Xbox. Microsoft says this. Microsoft on their own website [xbox.com] says smart TVs, phones, PCs, handhelds are all Xbox. MS put out a YouTube video. [youtube.com] This is not some random person on the internet saying this. Microsoft is saying it.
i dont care waht other companies released other things. xbox has always been a gaming console and it always will be in the mind of the general public.
What part of "Microsoft is saying this" is hard for you to understand or accept?
who the fuck cares what microsoft thinks? they are fucking retards who cant even keep their own products consistent.
So you don't care about anyone else's opinion but yours? Not even the makers of Xbox. Got it.
Unpopular Opinion... (Score:2)
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That was always true because they always locked everything down, albeit poorly in the case of the original Xbox.
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Indeed I do not know of any consoles which were not wholly opened back in the day. As far as I understand, the modern Xbox and Playstation are actually some of the most successfully hardened computers in history. There are immense numbers of parties attempting to defeat them, and any interested party can get their hands on them, so it's not at all surprising.
I used to have a chipped PSX and a chipped Saturn, and I modded the software on the Xbox a whole lot. After that it got to be something of a hassle and
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XBMC blew me away though. We had it running NES emulators and all sorts of wacky stuff.
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Gamepass incentivizes shovelware for sure, but then again most people seem content to wallow in slop so maybe it's What the People Want.
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I do. (Score:5, Insightful)
It's a locked down overpriced low spec gaming pc that you can't install your own software on.
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The ultimate goal is presumably to eliminate all functionality from the "low spec gaming PC" and charge you by the hour to run the games on Microsoft's servers with the video data sent to you over the Internet.
Microsoft is already well into the rentier phase of big business decline where they can't produce anything new that people want but they can charge increasingly-high rent to people who are locked into their systems.
Have you seen PC prices lately? (Score:1)
It's a locked down overpriced low spec gaming pc that you can't install your own software on.
Overpriced might be misstating it, given modern prices. I enjoy my XBox a lot more than my PC. It works a lot better with my kids and on a TV than any PC does. Some want to sit at a desk all by themselves and play on a PC. I like playing couch co-op games with my kids. While I am not sure I made the right choice in picking XBox over PS5 5 years ago, it was a LOT cheaper than the gaming PC I bought and it worked a lot better. We tried hooking the gaming PC up to a TV. It was a fucking nightmare with
"Possibly not even Microsoft"? (Score:1)
my usage: (Score:2)
Separate out the hardware from the App (Score:2)
In related news... (Score:2)
In somewhat related news, WTF is this Copilot thing all about?!
I don't know what the Xbox app on my PC is for (Score:2)
I don't know what the Xbox app on my PC is for.
It won't play the games I paid for on my Xbox.
It won't use my Xbox controllers.
I just never understood what Microsoft was is trying to achieve, here.
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Of course, I meant "Xbox Game Pass."