Florida Woman Gets Prison Time For Illegally Selling Microsoft Product Keys (techradar.com) 65
A Florida woman was sentenced to 22 months in federal prison and fined $50,000 for illegally trafficking thousands of Microsoft certificate-of-authenticity labels used to activate Windows and Office. Prosecutors said she bought genuine labels cheaply from suppliers and resold them without the accompanying licensed software, wiring over $5 million during the scheme. TechRadar reports: The indictment details how [52-year-old Heidi Richards] purchased tens of thousands of genuine COA labels from a Texas-based supplier between 2018 and 2023 for well below the retail value, before reselling them in bulk to customers globally without the licensed software. "COA labels are not to be sold separately from the license and hardware that they are intended to accompany, and they hold no independent commercial value," the US Attorney's Office wrote.
Richards was found to have wired $5,148,181.50 to the unnamed Texas company during the scheme's operation. Some examples include the purchase of 800 Windows 10 COA labels in July 2018 for $22,100 (under $28 each) and a further 10,000 Windows 10 Pro COA labels in December 2022 for $200,000 ($20 each). Ultimately fined $50,000 and given a near-two-year sentence, prosecutors had sought to get Richards to pay $242,000, "which represents the proceeds obtained from the offenses."
Richards was found to have wired $5,148,181.50 to the unnamed Texas company during the scheme's operation. Some examples include the purchase of 800 Windows 10 COA labels in July 2018 for $22,100 (under $28 each) and a further 10,000 Windows 10 Pro COA labels in December 2022 for $200,000 ($20 each). Ultimately fined $50,000 and given a near-two-year sentence, prosecutors had sought to get Richards to pay $242,000, "which represents the proceeds obtained from the offenses."
Huh? (Score:1)
It's only legal to sell... wholesale?
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I didn't bother to look up the case to see what charges were applied, but the most obvious one to me would be fraud (and interstate fraud at that, fraudulant wire transfer. etc.) If you ever look at those websites selling software keys, they always claim to be a 'license', which is it is not.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if someone started selling "Microsoft Activation Keys copied from acquired stickers." But then, why would anyone pay money for that instead of just using a free activati
Re:Huh? (Score:4, Interesting)
But what I find odd is that Microsoft did sue the Texas company that sold her the labels. That suit was in 2017, and the crimes Heidi was convicted of began in 2018. And the Texas company is listed as an unindicted co-conspirator.
But why? It seems to me like the Texas company was the real offender, especially after they got sued for what they were doing and kept doing it. And got paid $5 million in the process. How did that happen? Did they get off by throwing her under the bus? That just sounds like giving the head of a drug cartel a deal for testifying against a street-level dealer. Backwards.
My best guess would be that as part of a settlement with Microsoft, they agreed to help in a sting against their buyers. But I'm just guessing.
(the section symbol didn't come through at all. Just imagine a double-s between U.S.C. and 2318)
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I think the deal here is that she bought the labels... but did not have an actual license to go with them. Might as well be buying fake $20 bills.
This would be the equivalent of selling stolen cars, that you don't actually have a title for.
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Reading the article again and the summary, here’s what I think is the crime is: she purchased tens of thousands of physical labels. These labels have legitimate Windows product keys on them; however, she was not actually buying Windows licenses. Then she was selling the product keys as legitimate licenses. To a buyer, it would appear they were buying legitimate keys as a person having the physical labels is a sign they might be a legitimate reseller. Some if not most of the keys might have already bee
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So just to be clear, the issue may have been that her customers wouldn't necessarily have been able to activate Windows (or Office or some other Microsoft product) with the keys, or if they had someone who bought a Microsoft product from Microsoft would have run into the same issue because a duplicate of the key with it would have been sent, by her, to some other person?
If so, I kinda now understand. Until now I'd been wondering whether she had been doing the same thing as, say, those companies that sell pe
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Whether the key can be used to activate the software is almost completely irrelevant. The implication, if not outright claim, was that she was selling licenses. Licenses are legal contract terms, and there is no way anyone buying these codes had a license from Microsoft.
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Yes, I was also wondering why the "Texas-based supplier" was not also dragged to court, as I think they should also not be allowed to sell it like they did.
I also assume those labels do not come with any further legal material - so you are left to find out the rules in the masterful maze of Microsoft documentation!
Not saying she did nothing wrong - but I can also see how this can very easily be a honest mistake to think that it is a legal way to sell what appears to be "legal" product keys.
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Re: Huh? (Score:4, Insightful)
Microsoft themselves actually did go after the Texas company nearly a decade ago and won. Why the government didn't prosecute them criminally as well is beyond me.
As far the the scam goes, I think people aren't wrote realizing that the CoA stickers aren't the license to use Windows. Will they activate a copy of Windows? Probably. I have no idea if Microsoft can blacklist blocks of stickers or not. I think what people are missing is that someone has to print up those stickers. This lady just bought a few rolls of those stickers under the table from the printer. But she definitely didn't buy licenses from Microsoft and I don't think, realistically, that she could have thought otherwise. Technically, when she was selling those stickers, it was a type of fraud because she didn't have the Windows licenses to sell, just the stickers, but any ordinary buyer is going to see the sticker and think they're getting a license, when they technically aren't. You don't really need to give out DVDs or other installation media anymore; anyone can get that from Microsoft's website for free.
(I would also like to point out that I think the person I'm replying to probably knows all of paragraph 2 already; I'm just making it explicit.)
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Re: Huh? (Score:1)
These were genuine stickers, they came with no license for the software she sold them for.
Buying a Win 10 sticker doesn't impart the buyer with a licensed copy of the software, it gives them a series of letters and numbers that will allow unlicensed use of the software.
Having a key that starts a car doesn't mean the person with the key owns (has the right to use) the car it happens to start.
Nice business model (Score:4, Insightful)
Spend 22 months in jail with free food and what not if caught and pay only $50,000. After wiring $5 million That's a sweet deal! Many would be tempted to go this route. Especially when getting jobs is becoming harder.
Re:Nice business model (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Nice business model (Score:5, Funny)
Could always run for president of the USA
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Yeah this corrupt pedophile is so much better.
Re: Nice try. (Score:3)
You mean the border it is completely legal to cross before applying for asylum? That border?
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I like that conservatives are no longer even pretending to respect women any more. At least there's some honesty now and we're not going to get the same old bullshit of "You're saying we're sexist but only someone who's sexist would think someone else is sexist checkmate librul huhuh" which was just tiring.
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we're not going to get the same old bullshit of "You're saying we're sexist but only someone who's sexist would think someone else is sexist checkmate librul huhuh" which was just tiring.
No, now they are doing "You're saying we're pedos but only someone who's a pedo would think someone else is a pedo checkmate librul huhuh"
I've fielded at least three of these on feceboot recently. What works is responding with a meme about the Epstein files and saying someone should check their hard disk. I'm sure it won't work forever, but so far that's been super effective, probably because most of them are only software and don't want to be found out as such.
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> Could always run for president of the USA
Only if we could all use the "I am innocent. I was treated unfairly by the courts and fake news media" excuse. Who knew that boldface lies like that can unlock doors to untold riches.
You don't get to keep the money (Score:3)
Also American prisons are brutal. Intentionally so.
They are designed to inflict torture without getting our hands dirty. So we massively understaffed them with the lowest paid worst treated employees imaginable and provide them with food that wouldn't be considered edible by 16th century soldier and then we looked the other way when the inmates beat the shit out of each other.
Yeah I would cheerfully spend 22 months in a prison lik
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> Also what the fuck why isn't this just a contract dispute?
Because, as I understand it (from a comment above), the keys sold only worked for some of the people who got them. She was advertising them as legitimate, but would have known the source that she was getting them from was not authorized to provide the keys, and the chances of two people ending up with the same key, one a buyer of a Microsoft product, the other someone who bought the key from her, was large.
I don't think it necessarily warrants a
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Spend 22 months in jail with free food and what not if caught and pay only $50,000. After wiring $5 million That's a sweet deal! Many would be tempted to go this route. Especially when getting jobs is becoming harder.
Yeah, "free food and what not" isn't really a thing in the US prison system, google "pay to stay" (aka "jail rent"). The vast majority of US states have some form of this (though it appears the subject of the fine article was convicted federally, and the feds do not yet impose this madness in federal inmates).
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It sounds sweet until you realise the legal system doesn't work that way and she does not get to keep a cent of those $5m. And if she is discovered to be hiding it she's going to be spending a lot more than 22 months in jail.
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She's not rich enough for Martha Stewart or Tommy Chong jail.
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"[P]ay only $50,000. After wiring $5 million"
That's not how it works. You gotta hand back all the money you stole. The fine is *on top* of that.
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and pay only $50,000. After wiring $5 million
The $5 million is what she paid her suppliers for the codes. She supposedly profited $242k over her 5 years of reselling codes. That's under $50k per year. Not a great income.
Paying a years income in fines and spending 2 years in prison is harsh for reselling license keys without authorization. Not counterfeits. She bought genuine license keys wholesale and resold them.
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Ahh. I see the illegality.
She was reselling real genuine keys, but implying that there was a valid license transferred with that key. There was not.
The analogy would be selling house keys -to other people's houses: just because you have a key to the front door does not mean you have the right to enter.
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That was the joke I was looking for, but it's moderated as "insightful"? Not written in a funny enough way? Or did the moderators want some evidence that she had stashed the loot in a secure place? But that would have gone towards interesting. Still not funny?
Re: Nice business model (Score:1)
Wiring $5M means she paid the Texas label company $5M, that doesn't mean she kept $5M.
Her crime was wiring $5M across state lines to buy the counterfeit stickers.
Also, I'm concerned about the fed's definition of 'food' in prison.
Was she wrestling a gator in the nude? (Score:1)
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Check this man's browser history
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The last few I've gotten have all been about Medicare. I'm in my damn 40's!
So, will hey go after these next??? (Score:2)
Sites like alibaba [alibaba.com] have thousands of listing for these things...
I will not be surprised if many are not even genuine stickers.
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Good question, tell me again how US law applied to a foreign seller in a foreign country?
No law was broken (Score:1)
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No law was broken
Not true. This would be like buying fake coupons from the printing company that makes the coupons for Whole Foods. It may be a coupon printed on the same press that made the real coupons, but its still fraud none-the-less.
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It's more like someone purchasing a case of valid store product coupons for cheap, finding a way to market them to the public selling them for a bit more than she paid. Just look at what she was charged with, ie not providing the software with the product key labels.
This reminds me of when Microsoft send their goons after school districts across the US threatening l
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Re: No law was broken (Score:1)
Selling counterfeit goods is clearly a crime, it's not something done just to please major corporations.
$5m paid, $242k revenue, doesn't add up (Score:2)
Linux and Mac don't have product keys (Score:1)
You can get windows keys off any public computer (Score:2)
The entire idea of keys is flawed. You can't actually use these and expect security. So Bill 'Bioterrorist/Scopex/Cancer meat/Brain on a Chip/Little kid banging Epstein' Gates is jailing others from his own mistakes?
Priceless
What? (Score:2)
before reselling them in bulk to customers globally without the licensed software
Who actually purchases software in this century as physical media? The key is needed to "activate" some application suite downloaded from the Interwebs*.
*There may be exceptions to this. Media may be provided for corporate installations (behind firewalls that block Microsoft servers), secure facilities that have no connection the 'Net, or vast swaths of the US with broadband service in name only.
Re: What? (Score:1)
Having a string of text that unlocks a software package doesn't grant you a license to use the software.
Having a key that opens the front door of someone else's house doesn't give you the right to trespass in the house.
Fair is fair (Score:2)
When is M$ going to get prison time for selling faulty software?
Her true crime... (Score:2)
Pretty sane (Score:3)
For a florida woman that is.
You would expect one to be arrested releasing a drunken alligator in a walmart or something.