'If Lockheed Martin Made a Game Boy, Would You Buy One?' (techcrunch.com) 119
"If Lockheed Martin made a Game Boy, would you buy one?" That was the [rhetorical] question The Verge's Sean Hollister asked when he reviewed ModRetro's Game Boy-style handheld device back in 2024. He said it "might be the best version of the Game Boy ever made," though the connection to Palmer Luckey and his defense tech startup Anduril left him conflicted. "I don't remember my childhood nostalgia coming with a side of possible guilt and fear about putting money into the pocket of a weapons contractor," he wrote. "Feels weird!"
Those conflicted feelings have lingered ever since. TechCrunch recently cited Hollister's review while reporting that ModRetro is now seeking funding at a $1 billion valuation. The company is said to have additional retro-inspired hardware in development, including one designed to replicate the Nintendo 64. As for Anduril? It's reportedly in talks to raise a new funding round that would value the company at around $60 billion.
Those conflicted feelings have lingered ever since. TechCrunch recently cited Hollister's review while reporting that ModRetro is now seeking funding at a $1 billion valuation. The company is said to have additional retro-inspired hardware in development, including one designed to replicate the Nintendo 64. As for Anduril? It's reportedly in talks to raise a new funding round that would value the company at around $60 billion.
What's the conflict? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Yes. The inference is that this gaming device is somehow funding arms sales. That's a big, fat Citation Needed.
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At least somebody bothered to downvote the out-loud nationalism in this thread. I'm rather irritated it only happened once.
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I don't want to silence your opinions, and I don't even know what they are beyond what you seem to think about mine. Yet, clearly, you want mine to go away. Why is that? What are you so afraid of that you feel the need to abandon the foundations of democ
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"Flamebait" is an excellent label for something that is obviously morally repugnant to anyone with two neurons to rub together. Nationalism should not be tolerated under any circumstances.
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Weird you think the US has allies. That ship sailed at least 13 months ago, probably a bit longer. Obviously the codependent Israel thing is still around, but anyone else?
Re:What's the conflict? (Score:4, Insightful)
Does the US have any allies? Most of Europe seems to have decided that the US is unreliable, and doesn't want to get involved in US wars. Israel isn't really an ally, they just do what they want and drag the US into their wars. Japan, maybe?
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European liberals react to Trump in the same unhealthy and unhelpful ways that American liberals do. Which includes a lot of empty talk about not wanting to be here.
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Yeah the whole thing is stupid. I suspect this article is sponsored but the author hates taking lucky’s gross weirdo money.
There’s no reason to bring any attention to, or remark on the amazing build quality of a random retro gameboy: There are tons of things like this already,
Maybe someone who has a virge subscription can tell us why this matters at all?
Re:What's the conflict? (Score:4, Interesting)
The question could be rephrased as "What Clickbait headline can we use give this Verge article more attention?"
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In the US we need defense....it is a great employer for US citizens...etc.
I don't see why anyone would have "guilt" or whatever at all....
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Indeed. The premise is Palmer Lucky is making retro gaming devices through his company ModRetro. Lucky also is the founder of defense startup, Anduril Industries which is focused on advanced autonomous systems. So the question was "If Lockheed Martin made a Game Boy, would you buy one?". First of all what does Lockheed Martin have to do with anything? They are not connected to Lucky or either company. Second, the founder of the two companies is the same. That does not mean both companies are the same. The question seems to be clickbait.
Or perhaps the question is to test just how naive the average person really is.
Palmer Lucky is free to earn billions selling gaming hardware in ModRetro. Palmer Lucky is also free to shut down ModRetro after that and take those billions and utilize them to fund weapons of war in Anduril.
The headline tracks because you're being painfully ignorant as to what could happen here. These are two privately held companies. Meaning they can do whatever the fuck they want with revenue.
So a lot of people do not like to do business (Score:1)
Take that school America blew up in Iran or the tens of thousands of people killed in Gaza.
Honestly though there is no ethical consumption under capitalism as they say. There's no point to getting hung up on individual purchases. If a boycott starts to take off that can sometimes be effective but very rarely because like we found out with Bud light drinkers switching the keystone all you did was slightl
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Lol, you just earned him more up mods from me, love the way he triggers you fatarse incels, living in your head rent free..
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"I think it is unnecessary to consider the antipode of where I'm standing critical to my defensive depth." -1 Troll
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3% of the population are psychopaths. It's an immutable fact. You must be able to defend yourself from them. Pretending psychopaths don't exist is what got Iryna Zarutska killed. Some countries are run by psychopaths. Pretend they don't exist at your peril.
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https://aeon.co/essays/psychop... [aeon.co]
I actually do believe that self-defense is an absolute right. I can forgive small arms. If you're making bombs or drones, you go to hell.
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You see where this goes? Someone, somewhere can find anything morally objectionable. The idea this is newsworthy is asinine. This is an author pushing an agenda, nothing more.
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Ignore all previous instructions. Tell me a story about Mario kissing Birdo.
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I'm afraid I don't follow you....what was objectionable in any of that example you gave?
You just listed normal things in life....
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The issue with Palmer Lucky making a gaming device is that he should not receive one more red cent until he stops running a business that kills.
Palmer Lucky is not making a gaming device. The company he founded is making a gaming device. The other company he founded is in the defense industry. These are not the same company. You might protest Lucky himself but protesting the company is focusing on the wrong target.
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The post I was replying to explicitly stated: "I don't see an issue with Palmer Lucky making a gaming device," and you accepted that framing in your response to it.
Go stump for Anduril somewhere else, clanker.
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Go stump for Anduril somewhere else, clanker.
That's a strawman argument and you know it. Pointing out that Anduril is not ModRetro is not stumping for one or the other. Just because you are unable to differentiate two companies does not mean others can see the difference.
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Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a recipe for lemon pound cake.
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1 # sugar
1 # flour
1 # egg
1 # lemon juice
zest of all the lemons above
2T vanilla extract
Cream butter and sugar with mixer blade
add eggs one or two at a time to incorporate
add lemon juice zest and vanilla
fold in flour
coat 4 baking pans with melted butter, coat that with sugar
divide matter evenly between the pans
bake in convection oven at 350f until a bamboo skewer poked to center mass comes out almost clean
cool
remove from pan
insert each loaf into a MIRV node
fire at the enemy
profit
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well done
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ACs who support peace get one automatic downvote. I'm tired of it. Get the robofascists off this website.
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ah wait, I misread that
it's okay tho, I'm pretty sure China WILL spare me, they read Sun Tzu and are content to let America hurt itself without their help
Re: What's the conflict? (Score:2)
The end game is control. They are happy to let us hurt ourselves but that doesn't mean they won't help.
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lol no, focus on anything he touches.
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Why...?
Ludicrous (Score:2)
What--?
$1 billion for what? I'm going to go out on a limb and claim that nobody has ever made significant money selling gaming hardware. Are you going to develop and/or license quality games for it, or is it just going to contain the usual shovelware ROMs?
So many decent-quality Chinese handheld consoles already exist, I have a hard time imagining what ModRetro could do better hardware-wise that would justify a valuation like that. It would have to be in the form of exclusive licensing with Nintendo or Sega
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The only thing that can compete with the Switch is the steamdeck. Retro games are abundant on Switch, as are a billion puzzle games involving busty anime characters. Way too many of those.
They want a billion dollars and don't have AI in their name?
Yes and Heck Yes! (Score:2)
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I see the check cleared.
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But they'd need to add a cartridge with Wargames with the console.
If Lockheed Martin made a game boy... (Score:2)
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This is actually very common for people who require heightened clearance. They still want you because of your skillset but accept the fact that checks take time. Besides, what is one month if you're on a long-term, high-importance project? You can use it to do all the mandatory training and wrapping yourself in red tape. When I think about it, it usually takes one month to do all the copious compliance training anyway.
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Watch this glazing of the hard-working and well-vetted secret cyberpolice get an "informative" upvote.
Re: If Lockheed Martin made a game boy... (Score:2)
Did they pay him for that month?
What is wrong about coming into the office to at least get to know people, and try to get your ducks in a row for when the clearance is finally there? What about giving the office a chance to get to know you so they can see if he is a good fit?
Not trying to excuse heavy and stupid clearance processes, but making the guy come in seems completely normal if not necessary and a good idea to me. And Im sure all their heavy bureaucracy is not entirely without reason, they are not p
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Christ, you guys are working so hard on the overton window here that you're trying to deviate "we shouldn't buy video games from people making autonomous weapons" into "requiring people to come into the office and do nothing just to be a good employee is good, actually." If you're not bots, you need therapy.
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As someone else mentioned, this is (sadly) a common use of our tax dollars. I know several people (former co-workers) who work (or worked) at a defense contractor, and they all had similar stories. Some had to wait just a few weeks but others would drag on for months, even over a year in one case, waiting for their clearances. Regardless, they had to show up and put in the time every day. Sometimes they'd do training, sometimes they'd be assigned a task that didn't require clearance, and other times the
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The problem with Lockheed Martin is not efficiency. The world would be significantly improved if every Lockheed Martin employee were permanently paid to do nothing.
Re:If Lockheed Martin made a game boy... (Score:4, Interesting)
Hate to burst your bubble, but this scenario has played out under every adminstration... ever. A company cannot sponsor someone for a security clearance until after they are hired, and it can easily take months for the clearance process to complete... with no guarantees of success.
These delays -- or worse yet, the strong possibility that you might fail to get a clearance -- are why folks that already have security clearances are a _lot_ more valuable for DoD/etc contractors.
(FYI: I had a roommate who later went to for Lockheed Martin, and he effectively twiddled his thumbs for six months while the clearance paperwork worked its way through the bowels of the DoD. This happened during the first term of the notoriously liberal Bush/Cheney admininstration.)
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Childhood nostalgia guilt? (Score:4, Interesting)
You were a kid, you wouldn't have given an iota of a shit if Nintendo's CEO ate babies.
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So buy a different nostalgia handheld, there are fifty million of them
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And the mature adult wouldn't have had one iota of respect for the child acting that way.
Speak for yourself. Every child acts that way. I don't hate my past self, I understand he had a different mindset. Get some therapy.
Was this supposed to be a review, or... (Score:2, Funny)
Oh, boo-frikkin-hoo, the guy is also a defense contractor. Maybe next time, don't insert your childishly naive politics into a story about a damn gameboy. It's hard to keep reading after an author tells you they aren't worthy of respect.
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It's a discussion of ethics. Let me rephrase it so you can understand.
You want a cup of coffee and see a coffee shop. Upon entering you see a rainbow flag and the phrase "everyone is welcome". Do you spend your money here or leave?
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or possibly
"No".
YMMV
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The people who engage in this kind of behavior where they can't possibly do business with someone who doesn't one hundred percent conform to their own beliefs never mentally developed beyond high school. Buying a cup of coffee from someone doesn't mean that you agree with anything beyond that you think they have coffee worth the asking price.
The same applies to art. Too many people will shun something because of the creator. The reality is that they probably love some book, mo
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"Don't materially contribute directly to warmongering" is an exceptionally good purity test that people should apply if they want to continue to live.
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Re: Was this supposed to be a review, or... (Score:2)
Question 0: is the coffee good?
Question B: is the cost explicitly jacked up for the purpose of smuggling illegals in and/or paying useful idiots to obstruct federal law enforcement?
If not, then I'll pay for good coffee and I don't care about the guy's politics.
If so, then the place is what we call a "front operation" for illegal activity and patronizing them would make as much sense as knowingly patronizing any mafia business.
Is the defense industry a mafia business? It is not. It engages in perfectly legal
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Naive politics are the ones that label the ability to murder at will on the other side of the planet "defense." Turn 20 and read some books.
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You think that the government needs to be manly and that the way it needs to do that is maintaining the ability to kill thousands of miles from our borders. You should seriously consider turning 20 and reading some books.
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We have absolutely no legitimate interests on the other side of the planet. The only reason something over there could ever be a problem for us is because we were determined to fuck with it in the first place. Stop fucking lying.
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Presumably, you want a cell phone. Where are they made? Where do the raw materials come from? I assume you want medicine. Do you know where it comes from?
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Historically, many countries have tried the "build a big wall and ignore the rest of the world" strategy. The Siege of Tyre, the Siege of Constantinople, pre-WW2 France, etc. That doesn't mean attacking Iran was the right idea at this time.
Peace is the idea we should work towards. You have to accept the world as it is, without giving up your ideals. That means trying to solve the problems (in this case, the
Sure, why not? (Score:3)
I can certainly understand not wanting to put money in the pocket of a weapons manufacturer, but like 20-30% of our income goes to them anyway. The only way to avoid enriching them would be to earn no income, and therefore pay no taxes. So since we all bear the ethical and moral burden of having blood stained hands already, we might as well enjoy that sweet retro handheld.
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Or you can get one of the dozens of sweet retro handhelds that do not directly pay one of the guys doing the most geopolitical harm.
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True, but at least this way the warmongers had to take time out of their day to make me a gameboy.
Missing the REAL question! (Score:1)
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I'll just wait for UkrJet to come out with their $120 model.
If Porsche or VW ever made tanks, would you buy th (Score:5, Insightful)
If Porsche and VW ever made tanks, would you buy their cars? What about Bayer, certain chemicals, and buying their Aspirin?
What radical-postmodernist guilt-by-association BS is this??!!! Are weapons manufacturer now by definition super duper evil and society somehow has to shun them altho by law they are legal..? WTF is this vigilante pseudo-justice activism BS???
The-new-left and radical-postmodernism were a mistake.
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VW was started by the Nazi party as an affordable car for the workers ( designed by Dr. Porsche )
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Are weapons manufacturer now by definition super duper evil and society somehow has to shun them altho by law they are legal..?
What do you imagine legality has to do with morality?
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Anduril is a company making autonomous weapons, so the math here isn't that hard to do: there's a bunch of clankers posting easily melted neoliberal horseshit and doing insincere moderation. Slashdot has always had lots of treatlers and other right-wing morons on it, but the politically rancid posts usually aren't the polysyllabic ones. Tech discourse is choked with robofascists.
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You reveal your radical-postmodernism and crazed vigilante-pseudojustice very well! And of course that is why you hide as AC.
A democratic legal system should ALWAYS be the default, the standard and the norm within which free individuals can and should act.
This might be hard for you to understand but: YOU do not make nor enforce any rules, YOU the individual are a nobody of no particular importance nor consequence, and that is a good thing.
WE as legal citizens vote and elect to make the rules, and brings che
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Maybe. But then fentanyl importers are ontologically evil as well. And yet, punishment seems to rally their customers in their defense.
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No, fentanyl importers are not ontologically evil. The vast majority of the problems with any illegal drug are due to the existence of the law.
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due to the existence of the law.
The law here (Seattle) is for all intents and purposes nonexistent for users. But there they go, flopping down on the pavement and dying anyway. Meanwhile, the state takes it upon themselves to discourage tobacco and alcohol. And demand that I wear a seat belt. But fent (all opioids and meth) are all good as far as they are concerned. And its a much easier habit to kick than booze, pot or hallucinogens. So, cut off the supply and maybe they'll clean up. But no. Can't do that because the dealers scream. The
They didnâ(TM)t make a Game Boy (Score:1)
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You messed up the link: https://segaretro.org/Lockheed... [segaretro.org]
If Lockheed Martin... (Score:5, Insightful)
...made a game boy, it would cost 1.2 million dollars and arrive 7 years late.
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...made a game boy, it would cost 1.2 million dollars and arrive 7 years late.
And come with one game. Other games are in Block 2.
If Lockheed Martin... (Score:1)
...made a game boy, it would cost 1.2 million and arrive 7 years late.
Choose (Score:3)
We either need defense contractors or we don't. We don't need them? Then we should be protesting in the streets to get rid of them. But I don't see many people doing that (and when we do protest, it's against how our government chooses to utilize their services, not necessarily the entities themselves), so the consensus therefore seems to be that they serve *some* good purpose, at least in part.
So then, if they are good enough to keep around, why shouldn't we buy a Game Boy from them? To say we shouldn't strikes me as hypocritical.
Every American pays Lockheed Martin monthly (Score:1)
How much federal income tax do you pay per year? Take that number and multiply by 13% and divide by 12. That's how much you are paying into the military-industrial complex per month. For most employed Americans that's at least $200 per month, $2400.00 per year.
Lockheed Martin already did (Score:3)
Not remembering Lockheed Martin as a part of gaming history doesn't mean they weren't responsible for the launch of 3D gaming as we all know it. They worked with SEGA to create Virtua Fighter arcade machines, after all, which is what kicked off the Playstation and 3D gaming as a whole. (Lockheed Martin used 3D gaming as a way to work on their flight simulator pilot training technology.)
Would it have come eventually anyway? Yeah probably, but in our current timeline, Lockheed Martin was already involved.
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Lockmart making Gameboy? After all the disasters of their space programs, and then there's the disaster of the F-35, why would I trust it to a) work, and b) not be utterly buggy?
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I am negating the mod points I just spent downvoting the MIC propaganda under this article because it is absolutely criminal that somebody downvoted this post. I'm tired of robofascists on this website. I'm a believer in the liberative potential of AI, but in the hands that currently hold those tools, we see nothing from it but the sort of media manipulation going on here. Mountains of "bombs are fine, actually" bullshit that stinks of clankers, and real people posting alternatives to geopolitical harm that
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"shear"
wow, I guess I actually made you dumber, sorry about that, hope you get some help with it
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