Microsoft's 'Xbox Mode' Is Coming To Every Windows 11 PC (theverge.com) 86
In April, Microsoft will be rolling out a full-screen "Xbox mode" to all Windows 11 PCs, including laptops, desktops, and tablets. The move follows last week's confirmation of its next-generation Xbox console, known internally as Project Helix, which will be capable of running both Xbox titles and PC games. The Verge reports: Technically, you've been able to try the Xbox Full Screen Experience (FSE) in preview since November 2025, if you were part of both the Windows Insider and Xbox Insider Programs. But it needed work, as well as a better name. When Microsoft originally shipped it on the Asus-designed Xbox Ally and Xbox Ally X handhelds, we were clear: it didn't meaningfully turn a PC experience into an easy-to-use Xbox one. But if Microsoft is putting its full weight behind PC as the future of Xbox gaming, perhaps that will change change.
Necessary Questions (Score:5, Insightful)
Obligatory questions to Microsoft, in this order:
How can I stop it from happening?
How can I remove it?
How can I disable it?
How Can I turn it off ?
Re:Necessary Questions (Score:5, Funny)
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Not only does Bill no longer run the company, he's not even chairman
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I'm not sure I can blame you for asking these questions, it is Microsoft, but I think you're overthinking it.
This just sounds like Microsoft's version of Valve's "Big Picture Mode". For those unaware, it turns the normal PC UI into an UI that more mimics a console with a focus on controllers.
Re:Necessary Questions (Score:5, Interesting)
Well if it is like every other MS feature I don't want: 1) it will turn itself on for no reason 2) it will share every detail with MS. 3) I can't get rid of it even though I have no use for it. 4) Even if I can find a way to remove it, the next patch will reinstall it.
As a basis for comparison, Xbox for Gaming does all of that on Windows 10.
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If you have to use W11, it's one more thing to add to your scrape script. This is a sorry last-ditch attempt to make Xbox relevant again. Easy scrape and joins the piles of crapware that doesn't belong in an operating system.
And Linux distros could go on a diet, too. Hey Linus, it's getting FAT.
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Linux distros could go on a diet
So next time search for a lightweight distribution and run that? This is a you problem, it doesn't just sound like one.
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Like other seemingly simple solutions, this one is wrong.
The major distros have become unbelievably bloated, with Ubuntu leading the pack. LinuxMint needs ozempic in the worst possible way.
The kitchen-sink approach is just wrong and increases attack surface, while those having no choice but older hardware with fewer resources have to cringe.
Although lightweight versions are possible, the sheer sprawl of inodes has become ridiculous. No OS should need a half-million files installed from core executables and
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Like other seemingly simple solutions, this one is wrong.
Why?
The major distros have become unbelievably bloated
Irrelevant
The kitchen-sink approach is just wrong and increases attack surface
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Although lightweight versions are possible, the sheer sprawl of inodes has become ridiculous
Irrelevant
No OS should need a half-million files installed from core executables and libs and sheer goo.
Stupid
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And Linux distros could go on a diet, too. Hey Linus, it's getting FAT.
1) Linus has nothing to do with distros. He is responsible for the kernel. 2) Linux is open source. If you think the kernel is too fat, you are free to modify it. People do that to make Linux work for older and less powered CPUs.
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Bullshit.
The kernel is built around features, resources, and libs that will touch it within the kernel. This 100% disciplines the "features" that distros shove in, often with seeming hydraulic pressure, into distributions.
Yes, it's a "Swiss Army Knife" with incredible flexibility. And it is a blimp. Then there are untold lib bloats to feed edge case use of distributions. It's my contention that you could slice the entire beast in half and still have great functionality for the bell-curve use cases.
I watch k
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The kernel is built around features, resources, and libs that will touch it within the kernel. This 100% disciplines the "features" that distros shove in, often with seeming hydraulic pressure, into distributions.
No. The kernel builds the foundations that programs can use. Most of the libraries are part of the GNU side which is came more from Richard Stallman many of which imitate utilities from Unix.
This 100% disciplines the "features" that distros shove in, often with seeming hydraulic pressure, into distributions.
If you are just going to keep denying reality that Linus has nothing to do with distros, you have a world of pain.
Yes, it's a "Swiss Army Knife" with incredible flexibility. And it is a blimp. Then there are untold lib bloats to feed edge case use of distributions. It's my contention that you could slice the entire beast in half and still have great functionality for the bell-curve use cases.
AGAIN. Linus is responsible for the kernel. Distros can choose what they want to install. That is not part of the kernel. Again, you can find lightweight distros if you want. Or very large distros.
I watch kernel development. There is so much goo inside the kernel that it no longer floats, it sinks under its own weight, and drowns the OS with barnacles and lead.
You seem t
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I know who the maintainers are and what their responsibilities and trajectories are. While no one was looking (Linus), lots of diverse platforms became supported. Provisions were made for both very progressive (if often never ever ever used) modularity.
On the app side, an enormous number of apps found their way inside, often stuff that users (remember users?) didn't ask for but they got The Big Gulp anyway.
I indeed wrote operating systems before Linus Torvalds was born. Wrote in Byte about Linux long ago.
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I know who the maintainers are and what their responsibilities and trajectories are. While no one was looking (Linus), lots of diverse platforms became supported. Provisions were made for both very progressive (if often never ever ever used) modularity.
Bahahaha. While no one was looking, all of the sudden random platforms got supported? I'm pretty sure that is pure BS. The fact of the matter is Linux kernel stops supporting old platforms all the time like Itanium and utilities like ReiserFS. These EOL timelines are announced.
This leads to a contradiction: You asserted Linus did it. Now you are asserting things got done without Linus being involved. Which is it?
On the app side, an enormous number of apps found their way inside, often stuff that users (remember users?) didn't ask for but they got The Big Gulp anyway.
Again, Linus does not do apps. He maintains the kernel. If an app is built using the kernel, th
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There's a difference between being there and being turned on. Copilot does fuck all until you ask it to do something, other than take up an icon on the task bar. Which you can turn off.
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Re:Necessary Questions (Score:4, Informative)
One drive keeps turning itself back on and finding new ways onto my system, CoPilot is the same. I am not sure you have used WIndows.
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I'm genuinely curious about this. I've not seen a OneDrive icon on my systems (WIndows 11 Pro, and Windows 11 Home on the laptop) for 4+ years now. What are you guys doing that lets it turn itself back on? And yeah I checked the app is installed, it's just not run since I disabled it after first installing Windows ages ago.
User error?
Or maybe Microsoft hates you in particular?
Re:Necessary Questions (Score:4, Interesting)
1) No windows features turns themselves on for no reason. You do something to turn them on. Maybe you don't understand what you did, but you did it. In this case it would be hitting Win+G..
Xbox Gaming would throw a pop up in the middle of a game to a suggest I log onto Xbox Live to game with my friends on that game. The game I was playing with Fallout 3 from Steam. Xbox Gaming was installed and monitoring me for "helpful" suggestions like playing online with friends for a single player game even though I don’t have a Xbox or Xbox account.
On my laptop, it would randomly put me in portrait tablet mode. I have specifically turned that off yet it happens now and then. I could list more examples.
2) Why would this app share data with MS? The OS already does this. You use windows, you don't care about your privacy silly pleb.
Money? I don’t know about you but the OS sharing all my data with third parties is not something I want. I care about privacy; I have to use Windows. I guess that is not something that you thought about.
3) So who cares? You never vetted the 1000 individual packages installed in Linux either. Unless you run Slackware or LFS you've applied this to no other OS either.
That is some desperate strawman arguments there. I don’t know have an Xbox or Xbox account. Why is Xbox Gaming mandatory again? I said nothing about vetting every package, but I am pretty sure you can uninstall programs in Linux.
4) See 3.
You failed to explain any rationale why Xbox Gaming reinstalls itself with every major update.
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It isn't mandatory, it's just there by default as they know lots of users play games. You can remove it or just disable the services. Yes, it will come back with 26H1/2/whatever, but that's hardly a big deal. You just disable it again.
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Well, you must be an odd case, because I've never heard of or experienced what you describe.
Consider yourself lucky. There is nothing more frustrating than a popup in the middle of a game like Fallout 3 when I was in combat. That's how I distinctly remember it happening. The popup takes the focus/controls so I was getting hit before I could figure out how to get back to the game.
Except that the Xbox features are part of the standard image and that's why it gets reinstalled after feature updates.
Why is Xbox Gaming part of "standard image"? Not everyone plays games. Incidentally it was part of my work laptop install image. Since then I guess someone in IT figured out how to remove it.
It isn't mandatory, it's just there by default as they know lots of users play games. You can remove it or just disable the services.
Okay try to remove it using W
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If you were playing Fallout 3, what you were seeing was "Games for Windows Live", which was a dependency for the game (since removed as GFWL doesn't exist anymore). I agree, it sucked and did have a habit of getting in the way if you hit the wrong key. I can't think of anything good about it, and now that it's gone, I have to use a cracked version of Fable 3. It doesn't really have any connection with the
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Xbox Gaming would throw a pop up in the middle of a game to a suggest I log onto Xbox Live to game with my friends on that game.
Oh no, a popup that you ignored and had no impact.
On my laptop, it would randomly put me in portrait tablet mode.
Sounds like a your laptop issue. Can't say I've had the same on my tablet.
Money? I don’t know about you but the OS sharing all my data with third parties is not something I want.
Xbox doesn't make purchases on your behalf. Your money is in your control. As for the OS sharing data, that is already happening. The existence of the xbox app does not change your risk profile. It seems like you didn't think about what I was saying. You're already running an app from Microsoft sharing your data. You're fucked either way.
That is some desperate strawman arguments there.
Hardly. The difference is you are caring about o
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2) Valve's version doesn't mandate it's use.
3) Steam is an optional program installed as a third party component.
None of that applies to the Microsoft version. In fact I'd wager that most of it will be the exact opposite: Mandatory, part of the OS, and non-removable without crippling something else. I also wouldn't be surprised if it "accidentally" conflicted with Steam's version at some point. (After all Microsoft making PCs == Xbox, means that
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Nor will anything stop you from removing the Xbox features.
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i.e.:
get-appxpackage -allusers *xboxapp* | remove-appxpackage
And then there's the Xbox application, which you can uninstall with a right-click.
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It's installed by default. That's all there is to it.
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Mandatory means required. It is not. You can safely remove it. Instructions are easy to find. Simple ones.
Not to Microsoft. Also via Powershell I can remove all sorts of things from Windows that breaks it. Mandatory does not mean what you defined it to be.
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But anyway, I am an old guy, and the first time I regularly used a device with a Microsoft OS, I had already used the C=64, an old 68k Mac and several Unices, e.g. SunOS, AIX and HP-UX and a little bit of IRIX. The only reason I used a Microsoft PC was because the print server of my local university lab ran with MS-DOS.
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I went from a TI-99/4a to an XT running MS DOS 2 or 3. And I was in grade school.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to feel younger than someone for a change.
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Obligatory questions to Microsoft, in this order:
How can I stop it from happening?
How can I remove it?
How can I disable it?
How Can I turn it off ?
Answer: install Linux.
/.er should have no problems running a dual boot config on their gaming boxen without issues and most games will now run under Linux as well as they do under Windows. You can still dual boot for those few games that won't run under Linux (usually due to anti-cheat tools).
Linux has become good enough that the average
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Oh don't be so dull. My employer would especially like us all playing xbox games on their carefully compliance-crafted laptops. I mean, why *wouldn't* you want this? /s
Just how far do they have to go before some 'estate owners' decide enough is enough and ditch them completely? The average home user will probably live with it, but surely this has to be the exact opposite of what corporates want?
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> You'd think...
Yes, you would, as would I. Sadly, it seems *they* don't :-(
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True, but because you've already got to take care of a mound of crap doesn't mean it's okay to add more to the pile. Everything you're describing still takes someone some time to setup and test (and deploy). Likely they'll spend that time all over again if there are some major updates too.
Xbox on Enterprise has to be the least likely place anyone would want it. Why can't it be an install-it-if-you-want-it option, rather than forced on you and you having to find ways to remove it?
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It doesn't make that much sense to me either, I'm just not worried about it. It's a pretty trivial issue that ads a minute to the image customization process.
Or maybe it's because of executives who want to play golf games on their laptop? I've granted that exemption (as if I had a choice).
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What even is it? (Score:1)
My conception of an ideal "Xbox Mode" is one that erases Windows from the disk. Since we know it isn't that, what even is it?
Drilling through multiple levels of articles revealed a bunch of developer and ML stuff that is irrelevant to users, but also this:
*Tweaks to DirectStorage involving compression of game assets
*Tweaks to shader compilation (downloading pre-compiled shaders for specific supported devices)
It sounds like a way to lock developers into the new "Xbox" ecosystem that they're creating. If they
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I'm guessing they won't make it easy for Linux users to connect to "Xbox Live 365 Copilot" to download the shaders.
They don't need to.
Pre-cached shaders are a performance improvement. It means your machine doesn't need to worry about compiling them on the fly, which is CPU-intensive.
Steam has been using downloaded cached shaders for the Steam Link since its inception, since its CPU is on the weak side, and really struggles in shader compilation.
Importantly- the caching happens transparently.
Your game says, "compile this shader, please". Instead of compiling it, it returns the pre-compiled version. Without the cachi
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Downloading pre-compiled shaders is something almost everyone does already. Even Valve does it for example. If for nothing more than to decrease loading times by removing the need for the end-user's device to
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Interaction with the OS is still needed to setup the memory mapping (GPUs won't have filesystem drivers or something like that, or the ability to give themselves access to arbitrary memory ranges on your storage device), but after the mapping is setup, the GPU just fetches it contiguously and decompress
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As another commenter posted, it's probably just a controller-centric full-screen UI like Steam's Big Picture, plus some optimizations.
Reversal of Fortunes (Score:2)
So we went from "the next Xbox will be able to play PC games" to "the PC will soon be able to play Xbox games"?
Obligatory ...The Verge SUCKS (Score:1)
As above ^^^^^^
The Verge SUCKS
Cool but (Score:3)
You just know a Patch Tuesday in the near future is going to turn this on by accidentâ¦
Full screen xbox mode? (Score:2)
Isn't that just pressing the F11 key?
Everyone is asking for this! (Score:3)
so glad Micro$oft is listening to their userbase.
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Sorry, Microslop knows better than the userbase. YOU WERE ALL FOOLS FOR NOT LOVING CORTANA! And the way people laugh at Bing's mighty capabilities just shows how wicked and degraded mankind has become.
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Given how this would be managed by group policy on Windows 11 Enterprise I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying your IT is incompetent? Or are you saying your IT department are entitled enough to think they are the only customers?
In the meantime plenty of dorm rooms across the world had a PC sitting next to the TV where people where people actually wanted this feature because reaching for the keyboard and mouse from the couch sucked. Valve introduced a similar xbox mode feature and people pra
To Paraphase Perlman . . . (Score:3)
But if Microsoft is putting its full weight behind PC as the future of Xbox gaming, perhaps that will change change.
Change . . . change never changes.
So like Steam? (Score:2)
EVERY Windows 11 computer? (Score:1)
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How pathetic... (Score:2)
If it competes with Steam and all other established stores on the same device, it has already failed. Unless they're happy with that sweet sweet 2% market share. Next great idea?
The MicroSlop XBone AI will be loaded with slop (Score:2)
I guarantee it.
solid if bundled with xbox backwards compatibility (Score:2)
if a competent PC can play any xbox game a modern xbox can, then this will be of great value to windows and xbox gamers alike. if it can only play modern xbox games then its novel at most.
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Making Windows 11 More Insecure (Score:3)
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I don't understand why so many people are making this, quite frankly, silly point. I'm guessing y'all haven't worked in an enterprise IT department.
It's Helix. With one L (Score:2)
I know, I know, for Windows 11.
Let's see the graphic designers get creative with this one.
Or the AI, even.
Just love it (Score:2)
Microsoft loves to tier their products and lock out functionality if you don't pay for it.
Fine, but could they maybe lock out consumer functionality that doesn't belong in a workplace OS when they sell their 'Pro' or 'Business' editions? No? Sounds about right for Microsoft.
That 'Tiny11' exists, works, boots faster, and uses a fraction of the resources should be a major embarrassment to Microsoft.
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When I was in an enterprise IT department, I would customize the installer images to remove extraneous features. Plus, group policy.
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I've always preferred an "Add components you require" model to a "Remove components you don't require" model.
Attacking organizational needs from the other direction means you can't overlook anything and leave potential security or performance holes in place. You may not notice an extra process sucking up resources, but you'll notice a missing process preventing functionality.
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Interesting but pointless? (Score:1)
I don't think this will make the PC as easy to use as a console, and it won't be cheap enough to attract that crowd. PCs are expensive and other things can go wrong with them. The cheapest right now with the most games is probably a PS5 Slim Digital at around $400 and it can play games at 4k60 or 4k30 and is simple to use.
They say the next Xbox will use this to play PC games too, and there will be no more native Xbox software for the next system going forward. I think MS is leaving their console audience be
It's on (Score:2)
Uh oh, Valve must be shitting their pants right now! Microsoft is coming for you!
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Playing a dangerous game! (Score:2)