EPA Flags Microplastics, Pharmaceuticals As Contaminants In Drinking Water (npr.org) 58
An anonymous reader quotes a report from NPR: Responding to public health concerns about microplastics and pharmaceuticals in the nation's drinking water, the Trump administration for the first time has placed them on a draft list of contaminants maintained by the Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA announced the move Thursday, touting it as a "historic step" for the Make America Healthy Again, or MAHA, movement, which often raises concerns about toxic chemicals and plastic pollution in our food and environment. Also Thursday, the Department of Health and Human Services announced a $144 million initiative, called STOMP, to develop tools to measure and monitor microplastics in drinking water and in a later stage, to remove them.
The Safe Drinking Water Act requires the EPA to publish an updated version of its Contaminant Candidate List every five years. This is the sixth iteration of the list. Microplastics and pharmaceuticals appear in the draft of the upcoming list, alongside per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, or PFAS, and dozens of other chemicals and microbes. Their inclusion on the list gives local regulators a tool to evaluate risks in their water supply, the EPA says, and it can set the stage for more research and regulatory action -- but doesn't actually guarantee that will happen.
The Safe Drinking Water Act requires the EPA to publish an updated version of its Contaminant Candidate List every five years. This is the sixth iteration of the list. Microplastics and pharmaceuticals appear in the draft of the upcoming list, alongside per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, or PFAS, and dozens of other chemicals and microbes. Their inclusion on the list gives local regulators a tool to evaluate risks in their water supply, the EPA says, and it can set the stage for more research and regulatory action -- but doesn't actually guarantee that will happen.
That's unexpected (Score:2)
Nice. Filtering that stuff out is going to be quite a challenge, though.
Re:That's unexpected (Score:5, Insightful)
It's all well and good to identify contaminants in drinking water, and try to filter them out. It's another to address how they got there in the first place. Per TFA, it seems the current administration is focused on the former, but not the latter.
Kennedy must be a socialist (Score:2)
I mean, that's what people said about Michelle Obama when she proposed a lot of this stuff a decade or more ago...
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Michelle Obama was not in a position to drive government policy. Nor did she want to be then. Nor does she want to be now. She has stated repeatedly that she has no interest in serving in a policy-steering public office, elected or appointed. First Lady was her contribution.
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And she was proven right in 2024, unfortunately.
There's a large cross-section of the US electorate that is far too concerned with identity politics at the expense of policy politics.
40 years of name calling and labeling vs policy (Score:2)
The net result of 1986 to today of politics on both sides being name calling, "we're not evil like the other party", "let's accommodate and celebrate even more behavior" and "it's not my money they are wasting" is
- no progress on policy benefiting average US citizens
- a steady increase in government spending and debt burden on each US citizen
- elected officials who do nothing to help average people and practice aging in place or office holder for life
- news reporters who parrot the same old tired worn out i
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Well, he was a Democrat, before the party decided to ostracize him for running in the Democrat primaries against Biden. And all his issues were traditional Democrat issues that Republican candidates normally wouldn't touch. But finally he left, taking his supporters - people who vote Democrat on these issues of public health - w/ him
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Obviously! One company creates pollution and makes money as a result. Another company makes money by charging you to deal with the pollution.
This is the free market at work - markets know best.
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Those studies are being called into question by other scientists:
‘A bombshell’: doubt cast on discovery of microplastics throughout human body [theguardian.com]
Re: That's unexpected (Score:2)
Not to mention the more recent discovery that commonly used lab gloves likely are contaminating samples with a chemical that can cause false positives. Microplastic pollution clearly is a huge problem. It needs to be carefully studied to assess the true scope. But be careful casting blame here. The scientific method often has errors. And gradually corrects them.
The plastics/petrochem industry has enormous financial incentive to continue maximizing their output and revenue because the burden of secondary co
This Just In! Breaking Bomshell News! (Score:2)
I guess because we now live in an attention economy and a headline of "some scientists criticize work of other scientists" isn't really catchy enough. Much more honest, but doesn't drive clicks, I guess.
Sigh.
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Much as I hate Trump (Score:2)
Also I'd be worried about the knockout effects of widespread banning single use plastics. It creates an enormous amount of inconvenience for a already overworked population. That kind of frustration can be exploited politically by bad actors to get elected and do even worse things.
Basically in politics you have to pick your battles. Y
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The current administration is focused on making it look like they're doing something.
If they really wanted to regulate microplastics they'd regulate them, not put them on a list where they'll sit and do nothing.
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This is just a bluster move https://natlawreview.com/article/san-francisco-v-epa-supreme-court-strikes-down-epas-end-result-permit-requirements [natlawreview.com]
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Take your own meds, Geekmux.
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Depending on where you dispose of said filter, all that plastic might wind up back in the water supply along with some new contaminants.
Historic moment? (Score:2)
How is it historic when it's the government doing what it should be doing: protecting the population from toxic substances?
Considering all the time and effort and money these people have thrown at lawsuits against the EPA, against regulating toxic chemicals, against regulating industry in general, the only thing historic about this is the how high their hypocrisy has climbed.
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It's historic because it's the best and most sensible thing that's been allowed to happen under this administration. Sunsetting the penny gets an honorable mention, but that's trivial compared to this. Both things have been in the works for ages.
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Yes, and they didn't notice that the lab tests were all done with plastic gloves.
Stopped clock cliche (Score:2)
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Not really. Care results fairly closely match Sweden’s once adjusting for confounding factors like weight, addiction, crime, genetics, and various statistical quirks (for example, Sweden doesn’t nearly as aggressively count premature birth deaths as infant mortality).
I agree with the last part in parethenses. Do you have citations for the rest?
Core vaccine schedule recommendations remain unchanged, and there’s zero proof of significant impact or negative impact.
Not for lack of trying. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/judge-blocks-rfk-jr-from-scaling-back-childhood-vaccine-recommendations [pbs.org].
Canceling federal funding for one particular research program at arguably the richest university in the world - with literally billions in endowments that it’s free to use - isn’t “cancelling all the mRNA research ”.
Bwah? The article I linked to is on Harvard's news site. It is not just about Harvard. As that article notes there's been about 500 million dollars of contracts canceled. Note that even if that were all Harvard (which it isn't) that would be a sizable chunk even in their endowment. And this has on top
Yes, a contaminant. But how toxic? (Score:3)
In order to pass regulations, they'll need to establish a level of toxicity, as they do with other contaminants.
There's not much research on that level that I could find, but there is some research into how lethal microplastics are.
There are a few animal studies available that measured lethal doses of microplastics: https://oceanconservancy.org/n... [oceanconservancy.org]
- Sea birds - 12 grams of plastic will kill a bird weighing 320 grams, about 1:26
- Sea turtles - 280 grams of plastic will kill a turtle weighing 180 kg, about 1:642
- Porpoises - 1200 grams of plastic will kill a porpoise weighing 77 kg, about 1:64
Let's compare salt.
- Humans - 50 grams of salt can kill a 100-kg person, about 1:2000
So salt seems to be about 3x more lethal than the worst case (sea turtles) cited by the Ocean Conservancy above.
This type of comparison will no doubt influence the level of regulation, whichever party ultimately controls Congress.
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Precisely!
No, what I'm actually saying is that perspective is important. Contaminants range from good (like minerals in mineral water) to extremely dangerous (lead) and a whole spectrum of toxicity in between. If you drink enough ocean salt water, you will die. Yet we don't exclude salt from our diets, we just try not to overdo it. Unlike salt, microplastics have no known health benefit, but there is also little to indicate that it is highly toxic. Our efforts to minimize microplastics should be in keeping
Re:Yes, a contaminant. But how toxic? (Score:4, Informative)
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A study by the University of New Mexico does not find higher microplastics accumulation in older people vs. younger people, suggesting that the body is able to clear the unwanted plastics.
https://www.kunm.org/unm-study... [kunm.org]
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Interesting that you came to a different conclusion than the researchers themselves.
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My quote was from the lead author of the study, Matthew Campen.
Do you suppose he came to a different conclusion than his study? He said, quote:
Our findings provide some reason for optimism. The observation that plastics are not higher in older individuals compared to younger individuals suggests that our bodies do clear or eliminate these micro, nano plastics.
Maybe he didn't read his own study as carefully as you did?
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Oh wow, maybe YOU should be doing your own research on this, since you know so much about it!
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I'm simply agreeing with the lead author's conclusion. You are disagreeing with it. It's also not a particularly hard-to-understand conclusion, stated by the lead author.
Further, given that the human body is very, very good at removing contaminants in general, the conclusion passes the sniff test. It stands to reason that the body can also remove microplastic contaminants.
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And yet, microplastics (or any plastics) are not soluble in water and peroxide. So the body's ability to remove microplastics, as observed in this study (or at least as observed in the lack of buildup), doesn't seem to be related to solubility.
So, the EPA still does stuff? (Score:2)
Which is why (Score:2)
we have an on-faucet filter. I just don't feel like installing an under-sink one.
how to fail a drug test by drinking water? (Score:2)
Is this from disposing of pharmecuticals down the toilette, or pissing after getting high?
Sugar (Score:1)
Great. Now, acknowledge the RDA and toxicity of sugar.